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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,194


    “I won’t agree to even a 10-cent debt repayment in this deal with the US. It’s not about a lack of gratitude—we are grateful. But this was a grant,” — Zelensky commented on the rare earth deal in a Wednesday press conference.

    “There is no $500 billion debt in the agreement with the US — nor $350 billion, nor $100 billion. That would be unfair to us,” he added.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,609
    mickeyrat said:


    “I won’t agree to even a 10-cent debt repayment in this deal with the US. It’s not about a lack of gratitude—we are grateful. But this was a grant,” — Zelensky commented on the rare earth deal in a Wednesday press conference.

    “There is no $500 billion debt in the agreement with the US — nor $350 billion, nor $100 billion. That would be unfair to us,” he added.
    I understand why he is saying this …. But it’s not going to have the effect he is hoping for.  This is a political blunder 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,378
    Setting the known stupidity of trump aside...what is the advantage of trump continuing to repeat that Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO?

    Why wouldn't the leader of the US want Ukraine in there? I understand the Putin angle...but it would seem that trump would make those moves behind the scenes rather than publicly.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,256
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:


    “I won’t agree to even a 10-cent debt repayment in this deal with the US. It’s not about a lack of gratitude—we are grateful. But this was a grant,” — Zelensky commented on the rare earth deal in a Wednesday press conference.

    “There is no $500 billion debt in the agreement with the US — nor $350 billion, nor $100 billion. That would be unfair to us,” he added.
    I understand why he is saying this …. But it’s not going to have the effect he is hoping for.  This is a political blunder 
    He's likely positioning it that it's not a repayment for the funds expended, but it will be signed as part of a security agreement and rebuilding.  At least I hope that will be the position.  Nothing works without ongoing military support and/or security assurances.  
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,051
    Gern Blansten said:
    Setting the known stupidity of trump aside...what is the advantage of trump continuing to repeat that Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO?

    Why wouldn't the leader of the US want Ukraine in there? I understand the Putin angle...but it would seem that trump would make those moves behind the scenes rather than publicly.
    A. He does what his RUssian handlers tell him
    B. He has no clue how to make behind the scenes moves.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,256
    Wait, could it be possible that Z is outsmarting the POTUS on this one?  According to S&P, the rare materials are based on geological surveys from the Soviets in the 60s and 80's, they are very difficult to extract, and...ironically, the vast majority are in the east, in Russian-occupied territory.  So the US would have to support the removal of the Russians and likely finance the extraction, which is a benefit to Ukraine.  That all assumes they even exist. 

    https://www.spglobal.com/market-intelligence/en/news-insights/articles/2025/2/ukraine-rare-earths-potential-relies-on-soviet-assessments-may-not-be-viable-87318842
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,208
    Seems like the war will be over this afternoon, right?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,378
    I wonder if Putin thinks that escalating the war and making a fool out of trump is beneficial at this point. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,208
    Gern Blansten said:
    I wonder if Putin thinks that escalating the war and making a fool out of trump is beneficial at this point. 
    All he’d need to do is text a snip of the film he has. Or recording of the conversation about the millions soon to be dumped into COOTWH real estate condos in Flo Rida, circa 2013-2015.

    Putin on the ritz says, bark, COOTWH says, how loud?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,194
    edited February 26
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I wonder if Putin thinks that escalating the war and making a fool out of trump is beneficial at this point. 
    All he’d need to do is text a snip of the film he has. Or recording of the conversation about the millions soon to be dumped into COOTWH real estate condos in Flo Rida, circa 2013-2015.

    Putin on the ritz says, bark, COOTWH says, how loud?

    but those condos go on the open market.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,609
    mickeyrat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I wonder if Putin thinks that escalating the war and making a fool out of trump is beneficial at this point. 
    All he’d need to do is text a snip of the film he has. Or recording of the conversation about the millions soon to be dumped into COOTWH real estate condos in Flo Rida, circa 2013-2015.

    Putin on the ritz says, bark, COOTWH says, how loud?

    but those condos go on the open market.
    Y’all are funny. After all this you still think a piss tape would effect Trump in anyway 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,995
    edited February 26
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I wonder if Putin thinks that escalating the war and making a fool out of trump is beneficial at this point. 
    All he’d need to do is text a snip of the film he has. Or recording of the conversation about the millions soon to be dumped into COOTWH real estate condos in Flo Rida, circa 2013-2015.

    Putin on the ritz says, bark, COOTWH says, how loud?

    but those condos go on the open market.
    Y’all are funny. After all this you still think a piss tape would effect Trump in anyway 
    Agreed.

    A video of him sieg heiling could come to light, and not only would people love him more for it, but some would trip over themselves to be the first to tell us he was simply speaking from his heart and he wasn't really sieg heiling.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,208
    edited February 26
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I wonder if Putin thinks that escalating the war and making a fool out of trump is beneficial at this point. 
    All he’d need to do is text a snip of the film he has. Or recording of the conversation about the millions soon to be dumped into COOTWH real estate condos in Flo Rida, circa 2013-2015.

    Putin on the ritz says, bark, COOTWH says, how loud?

    but those condos go on the open market.
    Y’all are funny. After all this you still think a piss tape would effect Trump in anyway 
    If it were broadcast on every news channel minus Faux and Memeania and Baron von Nextinline witnessed it? Sure, embarrassment is the only thing that affects COOTWH.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,194

    🇷🇺🇺🇸🇺🇦 Russia has offered the US an agreement on rare earth metals in the occupied territories of Ukraine.

    This was reported by NBC News, citing American officials.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,051
    mickeyrat said:

    🇷🇺🇺🇸🇺🇦 Russia has offered the US an agreement on rare earth metals in the occupied territories of Ukraine.

    This was reported by NBC News, citing American officials.
    Where are the RUssian troll bots to defend this?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,208
    War over yet?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,194
    leader number 2 with the same statement . video....


    Starmer cuts in and firmly reminds Trump that Britain has provided all its aid, weapons, and support to Ukraine as a gift, with no intention of ever asking for anything in return 🇬🇧💙💛
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    screen shots contained within the thread,  swipe left to see them all.

    Steven Rattner exposed Donald Trump’s constant lies about how much the U.S. has given Ukraine. It’s one third what Trump claims. Europe has given more and has committed way more. Per GDP, US ranks 17th in aid.

    Also, most of the U.S. aid was spent in the U.S.
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    Ukraine’s national postal service, Ukrposhta, has issued 'Make Russia Small Again' stamps to mark the third anniversary of the invasion.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,208
    Is the war over yet? All these big meetings with the US and Russia Russia Russia and COOTWH and France and Britain. He couldn’t be a two bit negotiator, could he? Possibly?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,378
    my god...this presser with Zelensky...Vance is berating him to kneel to trump
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,208
    Gern Blansten said:
    my god...this presser with Zelensky...Vance is berating him to kneel to trump
    We should be so embarrassed.
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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,380
    edited February 28
    Trump to President Zelensky, "You're all dressed up." 😄
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,051
    Will we hear from the RUssian troll bots about this today?

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,265
    absolutely embarrassing. he thinks this is the fucking apprentice. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,573
    Both pieces of 💩💩 I hope one day they get what they both deserve! Fuck them and their supporters 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,265
    news conference with trump and zelensky is cancelled. "he can come back when he's ready for peace". 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,265

    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,309
    Lol this is insanity. Absolutely fucking embarrassed to be an American right now.
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