Kyrsten Sinema

brianlux

Besides being only one of two Dems wanting to kill the voting rights act, apparently Khristian Sinema also is against wearing masks.

Gosh, why am I feeling highly cynical tonight?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/13/kyrsten-sinema-democrats-filibuster-voting-rights

Sinema says no to filibuster reform scuttling Democrats’ voting rights hopes

Joe Biden was in crisis talks with Senate Democratic rebels Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema at the White House on Thursday night after they thwarted his high-stakes efforts to push voting rights legislation through Congress, according to several reports.

Her surprise last-minute move with a speech effectively killed her party’s hope of passing the most sweeping voting rights protections in a generation.

More at link.

dankind

brianlux said:

Besides being only one of two Dems wanting to kill the voting rights act, apparently Khristian Sinema also is against wearing masks.

Gosh, why am I feeling highly cynical tonight?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/13/kyrsten-sinema-democrats-filibuster-voting-rights

Sinema says no to filibuster reform scuttling Democrats’ voting rights hopes

Joe Biden was in crisis talks with Senate Democratic rebels Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema at the White House on Thursday night after they thwarted his high-stakes efforts to push voting rights legislation through Congress, according to several reports.

Her surprise last-minute move with a speech effectively killed her party’s hope of passing the most sweeping voting rights protections in a generation.

More at link.

They don’t make great accessories. That purse, that chunky ring, those frames, and those earrings are just too cute; you don’t want to draw attention away from her incredible fashion sense. 

Hobbes

She once referred to John Lewis as her hero. Time to walk that one back, Kyrsten.

JLGardell

Hobbes said:

She once referred to John Lewis as her hero. Time to walk that one back, Kyrsten.

John Lewis from beyond: "I don't even know who you are."

mickeyrat

JLGardell said:

Hobbes said:

She once referred to John Lewis as her hero. Time to walk that one back, Kyrsten.

John Lewis from beyond: "I don't even know who you are."

"Umm Kyrsten, I said make GOOD trouble. Not make trouble."

Merkin Baller

She wore a mask (& a backpack) when she voted against raising the federal minimum wage. 

Merkin Baller

Even better, there’s a gif of her vote… she’s quite the lady: 

cincybearcat

Why does what she wears or her accessories matter?  I mean other than the mask?

What did Manchin wear?  Y'all are about as bad as the tan suit people.

cincybearcat

Found a place you should go work.... 

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/shapewear-middle-school-girls-wellness-trnd/index.html

Meltdown99

cincybearcat said:

Why does what she wears or her accessories matter?  I mean other than the mask?

What did Manchin wear?  Y'all are about as bad as the tan suit people.

She should have had a pj bag…lol

dankind

cincybearcat said:

Why does what she wears or her accessories matter?  I mean other than the mask?

What did Manchin wear?  Y'all are about as bad as the tan suit people.

It doesn't matter to me at all. I just think that it matters a lot more to her than doing her job well.

And that matters to all of us. 

Of course, I could be wrong.

Merkin Baller

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

Why does what she wears or her accessories matter?  I mean other than the mask?

What did Manchin wear?  Y'all are about as bad as the tan suit people.

It doesn't matter to me at all. I just think that it matters a lot more to her than doing her job well.

And that matters to all of us. 

Of course, I could be wrong.

Agreed.

Halifax2TheMax

Does anyone know where she got those boots? Lost in Space set, maybe? Strip her of her committee assignments after making her go on the record with her vote against ending the filibuster and her no vote on the Voting Rights bill. Along with Joe Manchurian.

brianlux

With much more serious issues at stake, I don't place a huge amount of emphasis on fashion, but I will say I think law makers who are serious about there work are going to make an effort to look professional.   That is becoming less and less a thing these days.  I'm rather conservative about this issue.  I think, for example, that it is very tacky to see people boarding airplanes wearing flip flops and shorts.  I can't help put think, "Have some self-respect people".

But more importantly, here's the thing:  like Hobbes and JLGardell said (thank you, both), this is a lawmaker who is backsliding on important issues and turning her back those who want fair voting practices.  Like her tacking fashion bullshit, she is drawing attention to herself, inflating her ego, making a splash as it were.  Who knows, maybe she will decide to throw in her lot with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Fine.  Go suck eggs, traitor.

Merkin Baller

brianlux said:

With much more serious issues at stake, I don't place a huge amount of emphasis on fashion, but I will say I think law makers who are serious about there work are going to make an effort to look professional.   That is becoming less and less a thing these days.  I'm rather conservative about this issue.  I think, for example, that it is very tacky to see people boarding airplanes wearing flip flops and shorts.  I can't help put think, "Have some self-respect people".

But more importantly, here's the thing:  like Hobbes and JLGardell said (thank you, both), this is a lawmaker who is backsliding on important issues and turning her back those who want fair voting practices.  Like her tacking fashion bullshit, she is drawing attention to herself, inflating her ego, making a splash as it were.  Who knows, maybe she will decide to throw in her lot with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Fine.  Go suck eggs, traitor.

She's trolling. 

That's where we are as a nation, elected reps are trolling the citizenry. 

brianlux

Merkin Baller said:

brianlux said:

With much more serious issues at stake, I don't place a huge amount of emphasis on fashion, but I will say I think law makers who are serious about there work are going to make an effort to look professional.   That is becoming less and less a thing these days.  I'm rather conservative about this issue.  I think, for example, that it is very tacky to see people boarding airplanes wearing flip flops and shorts.  I can't help put think, "Have some self-respect people".

But more importantly, here's the thing:  like Hobbes and JLGardell said (thank you, both), this is a lawmaker who is backsliding on important issues and turning her back those who want fair voting practices.  Like her tacking fashion bullshit, she is drawing attention to herself, inflating her ego, making a splash as it were.  Who knows, maybe she will decide to throw in her lot with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Fine.  Go suck eggs, traitor.

She's trolling. 

That's where we are as a nation, elected reps are trolling the citizenry. 

Exactly!  And it's disgusting.  We must look like a nation of fools to the rest of the world.  She doesn't represent all law makers, of course, but that she is tolerated for her petty insolence, she does represent a part of who we are.   Add to that,with almost half the country supporting Trump and seeming to be OK with things like the Jan 6 insurrection- these are sure signs of our failure at this time in history as a country. 

brianlux

Halifax2TheMax said:

Does anyone know where she got those boots? Lost in Space set, maybe? Strip her of her committee assignments after making her go on the record with her vote against ending the filibuster and her no vote on the Voting Rights bill. Along with Joe Manchurian.

Fire her ass.

Halifax2TheMax

I really could give a rats ass about what anyone wears but I’d be more outraged if she wore a tan pant suit. Seriously though, it’s her politics and her claiming to be a dem without offering alternatives to what she opposes. Same with Manchurian Joe. Sometimes your ego and/or your “dem” constituents need to take a hit for the team and/or the good of the country. If anyone thinks for a second that Moscow Mitchy Baby wouldn’t end the filibuster if it’d help his cause, either personally, for the party or POOTWH, they’re kidding themselves. Watch as millions of “other” ‘Muricans are disenfranchised. Good luck.

cincybearcat

So - everyone upset that the republicans all stick together and don’t vote their individual beliefs….

then they get upset when someone votes their individual beliefs instead of towing the party line….

Kat

We don't need a thread about a politician's fashion choices. Close this one?

Halifax2TheMax

cincybearcat said:

So - everyone upset that the republicans all stick together and don’t vote their individual beliefs….

then they get upset when someone votes their individual beliefs instead of towing the party line….

Without offering alternatives or explicitly stating where they stand and what would get them to budge, if anything. Disingenuousness is what bothers me. She and Manchurian Joe have wasted months being liars and coy. Its almost like they want the repubs back in power so they won’t have to work, vote or worry about getting re-elected, just cruise along.

OnWis97

cincybearcat said:

So - everyone upset that the republicans all stick together and don’t vote their individual beliefs….

then they get upset when someone votes their individual beliefs instead of towing the party line….

I think this better applies to Manchin. There's something different about her. The big thumbs-down to the minimum wage, for example. Manchin is what he is; a conservative Democrat who is nervous about his conservative state. Yeah, her state is conservative, too but as someone mentioned above, she almost seems to be trolling. She seems to be reveling in it and she seems to have changed.

I would not be surprised to find out someone got to her with either a threat or a bribe.

Merkin Baller

cincybearcat said:

So - everyone upset that the republicans all stick together and don’t vote their individual beliefs….

then they get upset when someone votes their individual beliefs instead of towing the party line….

You really think she's acting in good faith? 

Meltdown99

OnWis97 said:

cincybearcat said:

So - everyone upset that the republicans all stick together and don’t vote their individual beliefs….

then they get upset when someone votes their individual beliefs instead of towing the party line….

I think this better applies to Manchin. There's something different about her. The big thumbs-down to the minimum wage, for example. Manchin is what he is; a conservative Democrat who is nervous about his conservative state. Yeah, her state is conservative, too but as someone mentioned above, she almost seems to be trolling. She seems to be reveling in it and she seems to have changed.

I would not be surprised to find out someone got to her with either a threat or a bribe.

You really think that someone threatened or bribed her?  I’d imagine that’s a serious crime, that would come with serious jail time…all that in system that only benefits well to do people, mostly white folks…

brianlux

Kat said:

We don't need a thread about a politician's fashion choices. Close this one?

Only if we can't get away from the fashion aspect of this politician.  I did mention that I prefer politicians to appear professional, but that is not the issue here.    The issue is that this is a politician who has used her position to draw attention to herself and has betrayed positions she has supposedly stood for in the past.

I don't have much more to say on the topic at this point.   Yes, I am becoming very cynical about our political system.  Sorry for the negativity!

OnWis97

Meltdown99 said:

OnWis97 said:

cincybearcat said:

So - everyone upset that the republicans all stick together and don’t vote their individual beliefs….

then they get upset when someone votes their individual beliefs instead of towing the party line….

I think this better applies to Manchin. There's something different about her. The big thumbs-down to the minimum wage, for example. Manchin is what he is; a conservative Democrat who is nervous about his conservative state. Yeah, her state is conservative, too but as someone mentioned above, she almost seems to be trolling. She seems to be reveling in it and she seems to have changed.

I would not be surprised to find out someone got to her with either a threat or a bribe.

You really think that someone threatened or bribed her?  I’d imagine that’s a serious crime, that would come with serious jail time…all that in system that only benefits well to do people, mostly white folks…

Why did Justice Kennedy retire so abruptly? I don't know. I think it's possible. But I don't pretend to know anything.

Meltdown99

OnWis97 said:

Meltdown99 said:

OnWis97 said:

cincybearcat said:

So - everyone upset that the republicans all stick together and don’t vote their individual beliefs….

then they get upset when someone votes their individual beliefs instead of towing the party line….

I think this better applies to Manchin. There's something different about her. The big thumbs-down to the minimum wage, for example. Manchin is what he is; a conservative Democrat who is nervous about his conservative state. Yeah, her state is conservative, too but as someone mentioned above, she almost seems to be trolling. She seems to be reveling in it and she seems to have changed.

I would not be surprised to find out someone got to her with either a threat or a bribe.

You really think that someone threatened or bribed her?  I’d imagine that’s a serious crime, that would come with serious jail time…all that in system that only benefits well to do people, mostly white folks…

Why did Justice Kennedy retire so abruptly? I don't know. I think it's possible. But I don't pretend to know anything.

I’m partly being sarcastic.  Well to do white folks will do whatever it takes to stay well to do, including using threats and bribes.  And a huge reason I don’t trust politics/politicians is because there is to much money in it…

cutz

Merkin Baller said:

Even better, there’s a gif of her vote… she’s quite the lady: 

Childish? 

brianlux

cutz said:

Merkin Baller said:

Even better, there’s a gif of her vote… she’s quite the lady: 

Childish? 

Again, one of the key issues here is lack of professionalism. 

How do win voters over?  Apparently, more and more its about appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Americans don't want intelligent, clear thinking, responsible politicians.  They was ditzy Twitter stars and teenage Facebook actors. 

Halifax2TheMax

brianlux said:

cutz said:

Merkin Baller said:

Even better, there’s a gif of her vote… she’s quite the lady: 

Childish? 

Again, one of the key issues here is lack of professionalism. 

How do win voters over?  Apparently, more and more its about appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Americans don't want intelligent, clear thinking, responsible politicians.  They was ditzy Twitter stars and teenage Facebook actors. 

Don't forget the Tik Tok'ers, Brian. Don't forget the Tik Tok'ers.

brianlux

Halifax2TheMax said:

brianlux said:

cutz said:

Merkin Baller said:

Even better, there’s a gif of her vote… she’s quite the lady: 

Childish? 

Again, one of the key issues here is lack of professionalism. 

How do win voters over?  Apparently, more and more its about appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Americans don't want intelligent, clear thinking, responsible politicians.  They was ditzy Twitter stars and teenage Facebook actors. 

Don't forget the Tik Tok'ers, Brian. Don't forget the Tik Tok'ers.

No doubt, my friend, although I must admit I have never even looked at Tik Tok.  Enough social media already, lol!