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Well, although I'll write about my 2024 vaccine experience, this is more about the various types of vaccines available.Last year, I had the Moderna and, as I mentioned previously, it did not go well. I was very sick for four days, moderately sick for a few weeks, and felt crumby for months.But this year I went with the Novavax. My reasoning was based on what I had hear from a few people in the medical profession, as well as my own research. What I found was that there are vaccines known as mRNA (Moderna and Pfizer), and a non-mNRA vaccination (Novavax). An mRNA vaccination basically teaches our cells how to make a protein that triggers an immune response. A non-mRNA (the more traditional type of vaccination) puts a weakened or inactive germ into our bodies.What I heard from the doctors was that they believed that alternating between the mRNA and non-mRNA each year very possible produces a more broad spectrum of immune response. I was also told that most of the vaccinations this year cause fewer or reduced side affects.I had all but decided to pass on a vaccination this year, but after learning what I did, I gave the Novavax a go. It's been 26 hours since the injection and thus far I'm doing OK, mostly just a bit fatigued and mildly "puny" (my wife's word, lol), which is much better than I'd expected. In other words, "so far, so good." Glad to have it over with!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Good news and good info Brian. Thanks. Hope you continue to feel okay.brianlux said:Well, although I'll write about my 2024 vaccine experience, this is more about the various types of vaccines available.Last year, I had the Moderna and, as I mentioned previously, it did not go well. I was very sick for four days, moderately sick for a few weeks, and felt crumby for months.But this year I went with the Novavax. My reasoning was based on what I had hear from a few people in the medical profession, as well as my own research. What I found was that there are vaccines known as mRNA (Moderna and Pfizer), and a non-mNRA vaccination (Novavax). An mRNA vaccination basically teaches our cells how to make a protein that triggers an immune response. A non-mRNA (the more traditional type of vaccination) puts a weakened or inactive germ into our bodies.What I heard from the doctors was that they believed that alternating between the mRNA and non-mRNA each year very possible produces a more broad spectrum of immune response. I was also told that most of the vaccinations this year cause fewer or reduced side affects.I had all but decided to pass on a vaccination this year, but after learning what I did, I gave the Novavax a go. It's been 26 hours since the injection and thus far I'm doing OK, mostly just a bit fatigued and mildly "puny" (my wife's word, lol), which is much better than I'd expected. In other words, "so far, so good." Glad to have it over with!0 -
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bootlegger10 said:
would make my job easier for sure
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mrussel1 said:
Good news and good info Brian. Thanks. Hope you continue to feel okay.brianlux said:Well, although I'll write about my 2024 vaccine experience, this is more about the various types of vaccines available.Last year, I had the Moderna and, as I mentioned previously, it did not go well. I was very sick for four days, moderately sick for a few weeks, and felt crumby for months.But this year I went with the Novavax. My reasoning was based on what I had hear from a few people in the medical profession, as well as my own research. What I found was that there are vaccines known as mRNA (Moderna and Pfizer), and a non-mNRA vaccination (Novavax). An mRNA vaccination basically teaches our cells how to make a protein that triggers an immune response. A non-mRNA (the more traditional type of vaccination) puts a weakened or inactive germ into our bodies.What I heard from the doctors was that they believed that alternating between the mRNA and non-mRNA each year very possible produces a more broad spectrum of immune response. I was also told that most of the vaccinations this year cause fewer or reduced side affects.I had all but decided to pass on a vaccination this year, but after learning what I did, I gave the Novavax a go. It's been 26 hours since the injection and thus far I'm doing OK, mostly just a bit fatigued and mildly "puny" (my wife's word, lol), which is much better than I'd expected. In other words, "so far, so good." Glad to have it over with!
Thanks, man! Doing OK today, hooray!
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This is dumb reductio ad absurdum logic. Why would anyone do that when they could just take basic health precautions and live their lives? Especially since we are talking about precautions that people were taking at the outset of a pandemic involving a novel virus at a time when there was no vaccine yet and no therapeutics.bootlegger10 said:
There are a lot of people out there who are alive today because of precautions taken by other people that indirectly protected them, and the former group will never be able to recognize it because they have subjugated their common sense and basic scientific understanding to their cultural or political allegiances.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
BF25394 said:
This is dumb reductio ad absurdum logic. Why would anyone do that when they could just take basic health precautions and live their lives? Especially since we are talking about precautions that people were taking at the outset of a pandemic involving a novel virus at a time when there was no vaccine yet and no therapeutics.bootlegger10 said:
There are a lot of people out there who are alive today because of precautions taken by other people that indirectly protected them, and the former group will never be able to recognize it because they have subjugated their common sense and basic scientific understanding to their cultural or political allegiances.This reminds me of something very encouraging I heard when I got my vaccination on Friday.I should preface this by saying that even though I live in what is typically thought of as ultra-liberal California, the fact is both my county (El Dorado) and town Placerville) are strongly conservative, and there was a lot of anti-vax sentiment in our area at the beginning of the pandemic.Fast forward to last Friday: I'm talking to the lady who is about to give me the vaccination. We're talking about how things have improved and she says, "Yes, when all this began, we weren't giving as many injections because a lot of people didn't believe in the vaccines. But now, and especially this year, we are very busy. The number of vaccines being given has increased quite a bit."So there it is. If the anti-vax sentiment is lessening in an area like the one I live in, then I'm guessing the same is true all over. I was very much encouraged by that nice lady's words!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I was fine with social distancing and masking for the COVID19 virus as it was unknown. The article/post was referring to how masking/social distancing got rid of a strain of the flu. My point with my comment was that, sure, we could get rid of a strain of the flu by shutting down society. We could hang out in our basement/house. That's a choice. But I don't think humans are here to sit behind a computer screen and only go out to get food and exercise. So, I am going to travel. I'm going to go to concerts. I'm going to go to the office and have meetings with coworkers in person. I'm sure it sounds selfish. Billions and billions of people have been on this earth and died. Another 8 billion will too. But I'm not going to sit at home, get takeout from a restaurant, never see live music again, etc.... in order to delay the inevitable.BF25394 said:
This is dumb reductio ad absurdum logic. Why would anyone do that when they could just take basic health precautions and live their lives? Especially since we are talking about precautions that people were taking at the outset of a pandemic involving a novel virus at a time when there was no vaccine yet and no therapeutics.bootlegger10 said:
There are a lot of people out there who are alive today because of precautions taken by other people that indirectly protected them, and the former group will never be able to recognize it because they have subjugated their common sense and basic scientific understanding to their cultural or political allegiances.
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You do you. These days I’d estimate 5-10% of people in crowds wear masks in those scenarios. My sister is one of them - she wears a mask in public and her annual winter sickness is no more. A friend is an asthmatic musician with severe allergies who is beyond grateful for masks, since he can make it through a show without a puffer or allergic reaction to something in the air. These are not “basement dwellers”, they’re real people whose lives are better because of this.bootlegger10 said:
I was fine with social distancing and masking for the COVID19 virus as it was unknown. The article/post was referring to how masking/social distancing got rid of a strain of the flu. My point with my comment was that, sure, we could get rid of a strain of the flu by shutting down society. We could hang out in our basement/house. That's a choice. But I don't think humans are here to sit behind a computer screen and only go out to get food and exercise. So, I am going to travel. I'm going to go to concerts. I'm going to go to the office and have meetings with coworkers in person. I'm sure it sounds selfish. Billions and billions of people have been on this earth and died. Another 8 billion will too. But I'm not going to sit at home, get takeout from a restaurant, never see live music again, etc.... in order to delay the inevitable.BF25394 said:
This is dumb reductio ad absurdum logic. Why would anyone do that when they could just take basic health precautions and live their lives? Especially since we are talking about precautions that people were taking at the outset of a pandemic involving a novel virus at a time when there was no vaccine yet and no therapeutics.bootlegger10 said:
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Glad to hear this go-round has treated you much better, Brian.brianlux said:Well, although I'll write about my 2024 vaccine experience, this is more about the various types of vaccines available.Last year, I had the Moderna and, as I mentioned previously, it did not go well. I was very sick for four days, moderately sick for a few weeks, and felt crumby for months.But this year I went with the Novavax. My reasoning was based on what I had hear from a few people in the medical profession, as well as my own research. What I found was that there are vaccines known as mRNA (Moderna and Pfizer), and a non-mNRA vaccination (Novavax). An mRNA vaccination basically teaches our cells how to make a protein that triggers an immune response. A non-mRNA (the more traditional type of vaccination) puts a weakened or inactive germ into our bodies.What I heard from the doctors was that they believed that alternating between the mRNA and non-mRNA each year very possible produces a more broad spectrum of immune response. I was also told that most of the vaccinations this year cause fewer or reduced side affects.I had all but decided to pass on a vaccination this year, but after learning what I did, I gave the Novavax a go. It's been 26 hours since the injection and thus far I'm doing OK, mostly just a bit fatigued and mildly "puny" (my wife's word, lol), which is much better than I'd expected. In other words, "so far, so good." Glad to have it over with!0 -
Yep. That's good. Vast majority of population get the flu and it is mild to 3-4 days of not feeling well. I'm not going to wear a mask to avoid not feeling well for a few days. Now, if the flu hit me hard, or I had other medical issues, then I may take a different approach. But don't expect the vast majority of society to wear masks for the flu.benjs said:
You do you. These days I’d estimate 5-10% of people in crowds wear masks in those scenarios. My sister is one of them - she wears a mask in public and her annual winter sickness is no more. A friend is an asthmatic musician with severe allergies who is beyond grateful for masks, since he can make it through a show without a puffer or allergic reaction to something in the air. These are not “basement dwellers”, they’re real people whose lives are better because of this.bootlegger10 said:
I was fine with social distancing and masking for the COVID19 virus as it was unknown. The article/post was referring to how masking/social distancing got rid of a strain of the flu. My point with my comment was that, sure, we could get rid of a strain of the flu by shutting down society. We could hang out in our basement/house. That's a choice. But I don't think humans are here to sit behind a computer screen and only go out to get food and exercise. So, I am going to travel. I'm going to go to concerts. I'm going to go to the office and have meetings with coworkers in person. I'm sure it sounds selfish. Billions and billions of people have been on this earth and died. Another 8 billion will too. But I'm not going to sit at home, get takeout from a restaurant, never see live music again, etc.... in order to delay the inevitable.BF25394 said:
This is dumb reductio ad absurdum logic. Why would anyone do that when they could just take basic health precautions and live their lives? Especially since we are talking about precautions that people were taking at the outset of a pandemic involving a novel virus at a time when there was no vaccine yet and no therapeutics.bootlegger10 said:
There are a lot of people out there who are alive today because of precautions taken by other people that indirectly protected them, and the former group will never be able to recognize it because they have subjugated their common sense and basic scientific understanding to their cultural or political allegiances.0 -
I would add a few other factors like social distancing and people actually washed their hands and there were no gatherings of large crowds.mickeyrat said:0 -
FiveBelow said:
Glad to hear this go-round has treated you much better, Brian.brianlux said:Well, although I'll write about my 2024 vaccine experience, this is more about the various types of vaccines available.Last year, I had the Moderna and, as I mentioned previously, it did not go well. I was very sick for four days, moderately sick for a few weeks, and felt crumby for months.But this year I went with the Novavax. My reasoning was based on what I had hear from a few people in the medical profession, as well as my own research. What I found was that there are vaccines known as mRNA (Moderna and Pfizer), and a non-mNRA vaccination (Novavax). An mRNA vaccination basically teaches our cells how to make a protein that triggers an immune response. A non-mRNA (the more traditional type of vaccination) puts a weakened or inactive germ into our bodies.What I heard from the doctors was that they believed that alternating between the mRNA and non-mRNA each year very possible produces a more broad spectrum of immune response. I was also told that most of the vaccinations this year cause fewer or reduced side affects.I had all but decided to pass on a vaccination this year, but after learning what I did, I gave the Novavax a go. It's been 26 hours since the injection and thus far I'm doing OK, mostly just a bit fatigued and mildly "puny" (my wife's word, lol), which is much better than I'd expected. In other words, "so far, so good." Glad to have it over with!
Thank you, Five. Yes, much, much better this time!
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In 2024, I would not wear a mask to protect against the flu. I was definitely referring to the first couple of years of the COVID era. At a certain point, I only wore a mask in a high-risk environment (including at seven Pearl Jam shows in May 2022 where people were reporting left and right that they were getting COVID, and where two band members ended up getting COVID, almost certainly from people in the audience).bootlegger10 said:
Yep. That's good. Vast majority of population get the flu and it is mild to 3-4 days of not feeling well. I'm not going to wear a mask to avoid not feeling well for a few days. Now, if the flu hit me hard, or I had other medical issues, then I may take a different approach. But don't expect the vast majority of society to wear masks for the flu.benjs said:
You do you. These days I’d estimate 5-10% of people in crowds wear masks in those scenarios. My sister is one of them - she wears a mask in public and her annual winter sickness is no more. A friend is an asthmatic musician with severe allergies who is beyond grateful for masks, since he can make it through a show without a puffer or allergic reaction to something in the air. These are not “basement dwellers”, they’re real people whose lives are better because of this.bootlegger10 said:
I was fine with social distancing and masking for the COVID19 virus as it was unknown. The article/post was referring to how masking/social distancing got rid of a strain of the flu. My point with my comment was that, sure, we could get rid of a strain of the flu by shutting down society. We could hang out in our basement/house. That's a choice. But I don't think humans are here to sit behind a computer screen and only go out to get food and exercise. So, I am going to travel. I'm going to go to concerts. I'm going to go to the office and have meetings with coworkers in person. I'm sure it sounds selfish. Billions and billions of people have been on this earth and died. Another 8 billion will too. But I'm not going to sit at home, get takeout from a restaurant, never see live music again, etc.... in order to delay the inevitable.BF25394 said:
This is dumb reductio ad absurdum logic. Why would anyone do that when they could just take basic health precautions and live their lives? Especially since we are talking about precautions that people were taking at the outset of a pandemic involving a novel virus at a time when there was no vaccine yet and no therapeutics.bootlegger10 said:
There are a lot of people out there who are alive today because of precautions taken by other people that indirectly protected them, and the former group will never be able to recognize it because they have subjugated their common sense and basic scientific understanding to their cultural or political allegiances.
The uptake on the flu vaccine is about 50 percent. The vast majority of people may get the flu at some point in their lives, but not in any given year. For what it's worth, I have gotten the flu vaccine every year since 1993 and I have never gotten the flu in that time period.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
By the way, hanging out in your house only works if you live alone. The reason why cold and flu spike in winter is that people spend more time indoors with their filthy germ-spreading friends and family. That's why I stopped having friends, at least the ones that my personality hadn't driven away...bootlegger10 said:
I was fine with social distancing and masking for the COVID19 virus as it was unknown. The article/post was referring to how masking/social distancing got rid of a strain of the flu. My point with my comment was that, sure, we could get rid of a strain of the flu by shutting down society. We could hang out in our basement/house. That's a choice. But I don't think humans are here to sit behind a computer screen and only go out to get food and exercise. So, I am going to travel. I'm going to go to concerts. I'm going to go to the office and have meetings with coworkers in person. I'm sure it sounds selfish. Billions and billions of people have been on this earth and died. Another 8 billion will too. But I'm not going to sit at home, get takeout from a restaurant, never see live music again, etc.... in order to delay the inevitable.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
👍BF25394 said:
By the way, hanging out in your house only works if you live alone. The reason why cold and flu spike in winter is that people spend more time indoors with their filthy germ-spreading friends and family. That's why I stopped having friends, at least the ones that my personality hadn't driven away...bootlegger10 said:
I was fine with social distancing and masking for the COVID19 virus as it was unknown. The article/post was referring to how masking/social distancing got rid of a strain of the flu. My point with my comment was that, sure, we could get rid of a strain of the flu by shutting down society. We could hang out in our basement/house. That's a choice. But I don't think humans are here to sit behind a computer screen and only go out to get food and exercise. So, I am going to travel. I'm going to go to concerts. I'm going to go to the office and have meetings with coworkers in person. I'm sure it sounds selfish. Billions and billions of people have been on this earth and died. Another 8 billion will too. But I'm not going to sit at home, get takeout from a restaurant, never see live music again, etc.... in order to delay the inevitable.
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I think you and I would get along great. From a distance. A couple times a year. HAHABF25394 said:
By the way, hanging out in your house only works if you live alone. The reason why cold and flu spike in winter is that people spend more time indoors with their filthy germ-spreading friends and family. That's why I stopped having friends, at least the ones that my personality hadn't driven away...bootlegger10 said:
I was fine with social distancing and masking for the COVID19 virus as it was unknown. The article/post was referring to how masking/social distancing got rid of a strain of the flu. My point with my comment was that, sure, we could get rid of a strain of the flu by shutting down society. We could hang out in our basement/house. That's a choice. But I don't think humans are here to sit behind a computer screen and only go out to get food and exercise. So, I am going to travel. I'm going to go to concerts. I'm going to go to the office and have meetings with coworkers in person. I'm sure it sounds selfish. Billions and billions of people have been on this earth and died. Another 8 billion will too. But I'm not going to sit at home, get takeout from a restaurant, never see live music again, etc.... in order to delay the inevitable.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Count me in......well out I guess
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haha. exactlylastexitlondon said:Count me in......well out I guessHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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