Viruses / Vaccines 2

23scidoo

benjs said:

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benjs said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

To you..

you're saying you don't believe zoonotic diseases are real?

i was talking about covid, its origin..

This has been explained to you tens of times on here. While the pandemic was killing people across the globe en masse - the consensus amongst most on here was that it did not matter one iota whether it was from a lab or from a wet market. In either case, the Chinese government was unlikely to admit anything, and if they did, what would it change? Clearly it ravaged China as well, so clearly they weren't able to curb the impact regardless. While you were focusing on 'where did it come from', reasonable people were focused on 'how can we stop it from killing people'. It's akin to trying to establish rules for the Hague before the Holocaust was over.

Now you come on here like you're the only enlightened one who could see the truth from day one (not that your truth has been proven) - you don't seem to realize, people frankly did not care about its origin while they were watching neighbours become hospitalized or die. It's called priorities. What vindication are you seeking here? 

topic of principles..if you don't understand, we have different values..
''where did it come from''..the issue is who knew about it and hide it and who funded the research..bingo!!..

I have no opposition with you seeking it these days when crisis is no longer at hand. What I found frankly stupid, was when as I said, people were dying of CoVID on a regular basis, and you had this obsession over where it came from. If you want to be obsessed today, have at it. Maybe if your ilk shared statistical evidence or pursued having articles published, it would lend a bit more credibility to your unearned confidence. Seems to me there are two unproven theories, you just like to speak about one of them like it's proven but suppressed. Given that "suppression", it's impossible to disprove, but also impossible to prove. That's the territory that conspiracy theorists love to live in.

As you said, people dying of this and it doesn't matter the origin??..don't think so..
and what are you think is a conspiracy, its not..called common sense..

23scidoo

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

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what will happen, we will not comment on the statements from ex cdc director??..
or its a hot potato??..

why is it you only believe people in these positions when they agree with your position? none of these folks are to be believed, I thought? They're all part of the conspiracy, I thought?

and post something he said. I'm not watching a 2.5 hour interview. 

mother google..

no. show your work or I'm not marking it. 

Then don't have opinion on please..

HughFreakingDillon

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

what will happen, we will not comment on the statements from ex cdc director??..
or its a hot potato??..

why is it you only believe people in these positions when they agree with your position? none of these folks are to be believed, I thought? They're all part of the conspiracy, I thought?

and post something he said. I'm not watching a 2.5 hour interview. 

mother google..

no. show your work or I'm not marking it. 

Then don't have opinion on please..

if you want us to comment on something, post it. that's how this works. 

Merkin Baller

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

what will happen, we will not comment on the statements from ex cdc director??..
or its a hot potato??..

why is it you only believe people in these positions when they agree with your position? none of these folks are to be believed, I thought? They're all part of the conspiracy, I thought?

and post something he said. I'm not watching a 2.5 hour interview. 

mother google..

no. show your work or I'm not marking it. 

Then don't have opinion on please..

lol 

Vitalogensia

Well, this is an interesting thing to read on Flag Day: Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to incite fear of China vaccines (reuters.com)

Halifax2TheMax

Vitalogensia said:

Well, this is an interesting thing to read on Flag Day: Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to incite fear of China vaccines (reuters.com)

That’s got Herr Miller’s fingerprints all over it. And Esper? Heritage Foundation, whatdya expect? Expect more of the same in 2025 and beyond, particularly with Project 2025 being implemented.

23scidoo

And the lawsuits reached your neighborhood..

mickeyrat

gift article

https://wapo.st/3L0IrwC 

CDC warns of increased dengue fever risk in U.S.
By Lena H. Sun
June 25, 2024 at 16:23 ET
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned clinicians, health authorities and the public Tuesday about an increased risk for dengue virus infections in the United States because of the record-breaking global incidence of the mosquito-borne viral disease.
In the first six months of 2024, countries in the Americas have reported more than 9.7 million dengue cases, twice as many as in all of 2023, exceeding the highest number ever recorded in a single year, the CDC said in a health advisory. Puerto Rico declared a public health emergency because of the unusually high number of cases reported in the winter and spring, the dry season, when dengue cases are typically low.
Since January, 745 dengue cases have been identified among U.S. travelers who became infected abroad, the agency said. Dengue cases typically increase during the warmest months that are yet to come. Last year, there were 1,829 travel-associated cases in the United States.
Dengue transmission typically peaks during the warmer and wetter months in many tropical and subtropical regions, and infectious-disease experts say cases are likely to increase as global temperatures rise. U.S. summer travel often overlaps with the months of increased dengue activity in many countries. Epidemics in the Americas raise the number of travel-associated cases as well as local transmission in the continental United States, the CDC said.
There is no evidence of a dengue outbreak in the continental United States. “However, around the world, dengue cases have risen at an alarming rate, including in Puerto Rico, which is experiencing an increasing number of dengue cases,” the CDC said in a statement.
Dengue is spread by the bite of an infected mosquito of the Aedes species. Travelers infected abroad can bring the virus back to their communities, where local mosquitoes bite them and transmit the disease to others. Most dengue infections are mild or asymptomatic, but severe cases can lead to internal bleeding, organ failure and death. Also known as “breakbone fever,” dengue can cause disabling high fevers, severe headaches and muscle and joint pain.
There is no specific medicine to treat dengue. There are no vaccines for adults or people without a previous dengue infection. The only vaccine approved for use in the United States is for children 9 to 16 years old who have had a previous dengue infection and who live in frequent or continuous dengue transmission areas, such as Puerto Rico.
With increased global and domestic incidence of dengue, the CDC is urging health-care providers to be on the lookout for dengue among people with fever who have been in areas with dengue transmission within 14 days of the start of illness. Infants, pregnant people, adults over 65 years old and people with certain medical conditions are at increased risk for severe dengue.

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mickeyrat

https://ssnews.page.link/4sVZDQMPmw8vQBZp8

Florida sees COVID-19 surge in emergency rooms, near past winter's peaks

by Alexander Tin

7/5/2024 · 5:42 PM EDT

Rates of COVID-19 have surged in Florida emergency rooms over recent weeks, according to new figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and are now near peaks not seen since the worst days of this past winter's wave of the virus.

The weekly average of emergency room patients with COVID-19 has reached 2.64% in Florida, according to CDC data updated Friday, and now rank among the highest of any state during this summer's COVID-19 wave.

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23scidoo

https://twitter.com/i/status/1811580936137380111

mickeyrat

https://www.threads.net/@sars_cov.2_covid_19/post/C-4Xtg3P0rO/?xmt=AQGz1qTKUrNxf4C4iGBkDTB2sATkN1hJW-P7kubmwEqcqw

lastexitlondon

So the vaccine booster is really slowing this down.

mickeyrat

lastexitlondon said:

So the vaccine booster is really slowing this down.

which booster?  this years? not sure its out yet but if it is they based it off of last years dominant varient here in the u.s.   this year is a newer varient. same family of virus omicron lineage but more evasive.

couple that with mindlessness about covid at this point......

HughFreakingDillon

Wife has covid last week. BIL has it this week (not related). It’s going around again. 

cblock4life

HughFreakingDillon said:

Wife has covid last week. BIL has it this week (not related). It’s going around again. 

What’s covid 😉! 

Seriously hope everyone recovers quickly.  

Tim Simmons

HughFreakingDillon said:

Wife has covid last week. BIL has it this week (not related). It’s going around again. 

yeah, its been blowing up this summer.

mickeyrat

update includes the newest dominant varient

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/22/health/updated-covid-19-vaccines-fda/index.html

mickeyrat

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/23/health/free-covid-tests-treatments-2024/index.html

Free Covid tests, treatments will return to help the country cope over fall and winter, US officials announce

By Brenda Goodman, CNN

4 minute read

Published 2:21 PM EDT, Fri August 23, 2024

The US government will distribute free Covid tests again starting in September, officials said.

Justin Sullivan/Getty Images

CNN  — 

As much of the US continues to experience very high levels of Covid-19 activity, government officials announced on Friday the return of programs to offer free tests, vaccines and treatments to see the nation through the winter respiratory virus season.

“The best plan going into this winter is for everyone to remain vigilant, to use the tools we have: vaccines, testing, treatment against the illnesses responsible for the majority of fall and winter deaths and hospitalizations,” Dr. Mandy Cohen, director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Friday.

Related article Back to school means back to viruses. A doctor explains how families should prepare

Free Covid tests won’t be available right away but are coming back in time for fall and winter gatherings. Government-purchased supplies of the antiviral drug Paxlovid will also be available at no charge to people who are uninsured or who are on Medicare or Medicaid.

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BF25394

lastexitlondon said:

So the vaccine booster is really slowing this down.

The most recent booster, which is almost eleven months old and preceded the FLiRT variants that are driving the current surge, had a very low uptake rate in the United States. In my state of California, only 15 percent of people got the 2023 booster. If a greater percentage of Americans had obtained the booster, there would be a much lower rate of transmission, but a bunch of bad actors did a great job of demonizing this extremely safe and effective vaccine and, combined with Americans' low degree of scientific literacy, this was enough to make people think it wasn't worth it to get the booster (or, in some cases, the original shot).

HughFreakingDillon

I think you also have to factor in how many people have been infected recently, and if they were, they are advised not to get another booster for up to 6 months post-infection. And then they might forget to get the booster once that time period passes.