Capitalism Sucks.

Zod

prl said:

dimitrispearljam said:

apirk72 said:

That all makes sense demitris but 26 years ago he spoke out against high ticket prices and we have to hold musicians to their words, no matter what changes in their industry.  You? Me? Politicians? Nah but musicians yes.
I am still not over Ian taking prices off the Dischord record covers, what a sellout.

 i wrote down number so u understand...
for the show in NY...ticketmaster get 100.000 for fees!!!do u realise the number?
if for one night ,,they get 100.000...cos they are the online ticket ventor  to buy tix,,
so if ticketmaster gets that money for one night...how much the artist,his band ,his crew and all those people should get paid ?its crazy when u put number down 

You make it sound like Ed's not making money at all in the end

I understand what you said, but there are probably things he can do to aliviate the end price: not work with Ticketmaster, play bigger venues to acomodate more people, play more shows, play alternate venues that are not tied to specific vendors and are less expensive, hey, even make less money himself.

I know nothing about the business so I'm most likely wrong, but as a long time fan this just doesn't feel right. I can't even imagine to what values the "dynamic pricing" is going to lead up to.

I think the ship has sailed on alternate venues.   Most venues of any reasonable size have exclusive ticketing contracts now.  PJ barely pulled it off in '95, and the venues they did use weren't regularly used, so they became responsible for planning and staffing those venues, which is a lot of work.  Now 26 years later I don't think those venues would be up for grabs.

It's crazy that TM/LN haven't have monopoly proceedings again, because it's crazy.

I do agree with the bigger venues.  If they need X amount of dollars to pay the band and crew, then a bigger venue (even with added cost) could scale down the ticket prices through quantity sold.

I'm pretty sure playing theatre's doesn't meet demand.  Even at these prices tickets are going to be hard to come by.   I remember the only other time I saw Ed solo was in Vancouver around 2008.  It was crazy trying to get tickets.  Only managed to get a pair through the 10c for one of the two nights.  Ended up skipping night 2 :(   Vancouver is usually an easier market to get tickets than some of the big US cities, so that's a crazy level of demand.

I dunno.  If $250 a ticket gets me in the door because people opted not to go I'll be happy.  If tickets had been $150 and more put in for them, and I missed out I'd be sad.

halv

I'm not willing to pay these kind of prices. For me it's just not worth it. Going back to club shows is just fine with me. Less expensive, closer to the band, and way better audiences. Even theatre shows for less popular bands is just as enjoyable. Saw the Cowboy Junkies in a gorgeous theatre last month and the ticket was $60 w/ fees. Amazing show. If Pearl Jam tickets end up being this price I probably won't go to those shows either. I'll be sad for sure, but there's plenty of great smaller bands out there to see.
As George Harrison said "See you 'round the clubs". 

Cropduster-80

The vast majority of a 200 dollar ticket is a fixed cost.  The only fair complaint would be the cut at the very end EV would personally take as that could (possibly) be negotiable.

EV could in theory do a show for free in a small theatre and a ticket could still cost $175 as no one else involved is going to do it for free

how much money per show is fair for him to personally net? That’s a more fair discussion  vs how much a ticket costs 

he may not even be allowed to do a tour and charge below market rates. If I was his agent or any other person representing him and my livelihood depended on a percentage of EV’s income to pay my salary I would probably cover myself from my client going rogue by making sure his performance fee was charged at appropriate market rates, contractually 

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Cropduster-80 said:

The vast majority of a 200 dollar ticket is a fixed cost.  The only fair complaint would be the cut at the very end EV would personally take as that could (possibly) be negotiable.

EV could in theory do a show for free in a small theatre and a ticket could still cost $175 as no one else involved is going to do it for free

how much money per show is fair for him to personally net? That’s a more fair discussion  vs how much a ticket costs 

he may not even be allowed to do a tour and charge below market rates. If I was his agent or any other person representing him and my livelihood depended on a percentage of EV’s income to pay my salary I would probably cover myself from my client going rogue by making sure his performance fee was charged at appropriate market rates, contractually 

Welcome to the forums! Lots of new handles popping up in this thread! 

Cropduster-80

2-feign-reluctance said:

Cropduster-80 said:

The vast majority of a 200 dollar ticket is a fixed cost.  The only fair complaint would be the cut at the very end EV would personally take as that could (possibly) be negotiable.

EV could in theory do a show for free in a small theatre and a ticket could still cost $175 as no one else involved is going to do it for free

how much money per show is fair for him to personally net? That’s a more fair discussion  vs how much a ticket costs 

he may not even be allowed to do a tour and charge below market rates. If I was his agent or any other person representing him and my livelihood depended on a percentage of EV’s income to pay my salary I would probably cover myself from my client going rogue by making sure his performance fee was charged at appropriate market rates, contractually 

Welcome to the forums! Lots of new handles popping up in this thread! 

thanks.  Been lurking for years but finally got around to getting 10 club to set up a username 

rb173565

capitalism doesn't suck, but it clearly doesn't work. All you united statesians  seem to forget that the federal reserve has flooded the market with billions of dollars, printed to prop up all the banks and keep the world economy going since the 2008 economic collapse. Now its coming back to bite with the highest inflation  in decades. europe is feeling the effects too. essentially the dollar is nigh on worthless and its going to get worse. for the conspiracy theorists out there this is part of the NWO's plan for the great reset. that along with the fake pandemic and forcing people into a cashless society are all leading to higher prices. 

igotid88

If Pearl Jam came up with their own crypto. Would you use that to pay for tickets?

RP112579

cp3iverson

Let’s not kid ourselves.  You guys will be spending more for the poster on eBay.     

If it fit my schedule I’d definitely go.  

Members of Pearl Jam/Chili Peppers/Janes Addiction/Glen Hansard.  Not sure about Watt’s guitar abilities but he’s the guy everyone on Top 40 wants producing.  This is very much a supergroup playing theaters.  

If you don’t like the price don’t go.  What’s the big deal?

igotid88

If you want to complain about something. One thing I could understand is not having the 10c pre-sale the same time as the verified fan sale. I know many people who confused the two the last time

josevolution

static111 said:

OceansJenny said:

darthvedder said:

Asking people to pay these types of prices while people are still holding on to tickets for a PJ tour that still hasn't been rescheduled yet...not cool.

Clearly EV isn’t the hold up with COVID indoor venue concerns. It’s one of the other 4.

Stone lol

I for one am glad they are not rushing to do indoor venues specially since anyone can get a vaccine card! The band wants to be sure the venues are equipped with digital scanning for Covid cards on your phones so the anti vaccine idiots can be weeded out, I say good on them I’ve been to two small venue shows this past summer both venues were scanning for Covid proof not asking for paper cards..

josevolution

mcgruff10 said:

Just another point, I would be extremely pissed if pj tickets were this much because like many of you I try to go to multiple shows to see different songs and set-lists.  I m thinking with Ed and the earthlings that seeing one show will be sufficient.  

lol yeah you know damn well if people can get tickets to every show of this solo tour they would go every single night! 

Eddieredder

Wanna know what also sucks? Entitlement. See a lot of that whenever shows are announced. Prices, tix, merch, etc etc. It’s a really gross side of being a fan of this band.

LukinFan

If there was a show remotely close to me, I'd go. 

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Eddieredder said:

Wanna know what also sucks? Entitlement. See a lot of that whenever shows are announced. Prices, tix, merch, etc etc. It’s a really gross side of being a fan of this band.

It's just a minority group of people on the board, but they are the ones who lay the biggest turds all us flies like to gather around! 

Eddieredder

igotid88 said:

If Pearl Jam came up with their own crypto. Would you use that to pay for tickets?

It’s actually a genius idea. NFTs? They got a built in crazy audience that buys ANYTHING with their name on it

Cropduster-80

igotid88 said:

If Pearl Jam came up with their own crypto. Would you use that to pay for tickets?

They went with vaults on vinyl instead.
id rather just invest in all the vault 3’s 

id turn in a vault 10 to the ten club for admission to a show.  

DM282158

In the Build Back Better bill, there’s actually monies set aside to subsidize Eddie Vedder & The Earthlings ticket prices. 

(I kid, I kid!! Too easy…). 

eddiec

It's because we're old. We still remember when concerts were $20 to see a major act in a stadium.

Someone mentioned this earlier- because of streaming, prices are only going to go up.

Would you rather have:

a) Still buy every CD you want to listen to for 10-15 a pop, and pay $100 for a concert ticket

or

b) Pay $10 a month and listen to everything, then shell out 200-250 every now and then for a concert

I think you'll be financially better with b.

PP193448

Keep in mind that some of us are not corporate elites paying 5k+ to see private EV gig at some ultra rich person’s house.  So $250 doesn’t seem so bad, i guess….