US Extremists

mickeyrat

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

the United States is the only country in North America that is a worldwide leader in medical innovation, technology and pharmaceuticals if not the worldwide leader. 

Other countries receive our technology, treatments and pharmaceuticals for pennies on the dollar. Canadians criticizing our system have little knowledge about the benefit they receive from it. For nearly free.

its absolutely possible that Donnie is fed up with the United States subsidizing other countries free healthcare on the backs of the American taxpayer.

its rich to read a comment from a member here attacking my comment about his research cuts with a whoops , someone  who directly benefits from my payment of taxes to my government.

Good goal post move. 

Keep reading. Take a closer look. Aim to do better. 

Even have a screen shot for you one and two posts above (yours)  to prove I am being accurate. The topic is medical research and how the us taxpayers subsidize this cost.


edit to include “yours”

 

I’m doing just fine. You claimed a substandard level of care in Canada, then said this when called out init:

‘Yes America has issues with mortality rates. The cause of that is very different from the level of Health Care available here.’

As if our low rankings in the health indicators has nothing to do with healthcare. And then you bounced over to our high costs bring innovation. It's okay to admit that Americans have decent health care when they can afford it. 

You have the topic completely incorrect. It is MEDICAL RESEARCH.

The genesis of the disagreement was my original complaint about the USA taxpayers subsidizing Ivy League medical costs. I was attacked first by a female Canadian for not understanding university research is for medical. A rather insulting comment from someone enjoying USA medical research to improve care she gets as a result of our tax dollars. Typically other countries pay for our advancements at a huge discount. Is this not fact?

Then a male Canadian decided to but in and again attack my comment, because I referred to “substandard medical care” in Canada. Yes I left off the bit about medical research in a subsequent comment, but the dialogue text is clear to see on page 18 and my later screen shots. I am referring to medical research.

Are you assuming that I forgot the attack by the original Canadian was about medical research, or that I am not smart enough to know what I was talking about?

yes we have issues with mortality rates, but that is a complex issue that has to do with other factors.

the fact is people come from around the world when needed to my city when that is one of the few places in the world where many specialties exist. A close friend needed a rare procedure, nothing life threatening but it needed to be done. Their out of pocket was u def a grand for a procedure that had a gross cost over $1 million. So please don’t lecture me. I know for a fact this specialty does not exist in socialized countries,

THE TOPIC IS U.S. EXTREMISTS

Yes , leftist extremists on this forum. I was attacked by a Canadian on this topic about that $400 billion research pause so this is where the replies rest.

you are free to continue to post about the Palestinian arrested yesterday here  illegally scheduled for deportation.

Never Again.

Always took that to mean anywhere to anyone.

Am I wrong? Does it actually mean exclusively for the jewish people instead?

as always...

Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

yes or no.

previous statements leave a strong impression.

Lerxst1992

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

the United States is the only country in North America that is a worldwide leader in medical innovation, technology and pharmaceuticals if not the worldwide leader. 

Other countries receive our technology, treatments and pharmaceuticals for pennies on the dollar. Canadians criticizing our system have little knowledge about the benefit they receive from it. For nearly free.

its absolutely possible that Donnie is fed up with the United States subsidizing other countries free healthcare on the backs of the American taxpayer.

its rich to read a comment from a member here attacking my comment about his research cuts with a whoops , someone  who directly benefits from my payment of taxes to my government.

Good goal post move. 

Keep reading. Take a closer look. Aim to do better. 

Even have a screen shot for you one and two posts above (yours)  to prove I am being accurate. The topic is medical research and how the us taxpayers subsidize this cost.


edit to include “yours”

 

I’m doing just fine. You claimed a substandard level of care in Canada, then said this when called out init:

‘Yes America has issues with mortality rates. The cause of that is very different from the level of Health Care available here.’

As if our low rankings in the health indicators has nothing to do with healthcare. And then you bounced over to our high costs bring innovation. It's okay to admit that Americans have decent health care when they can afford it. 

You have the topic completely incorrect. It is MEDICAL RESEARCH.

The genesis of the disagreement was my original complaint about the USA taxpayers subsidizing Ivy League medical costs. I was attacked first by a female Canadian for not understanding university research is for medical. A rather insulting comment from someone enjoying USA medical research to improve care she gets as a result of our tax dollars. Typically other countries pay for our advancements at a huge discount. Is this not fact?

Then a male Canadian decided to but in and again attack my comment, because I referred to “substandard medical care” in Canada. Yes I left off the bit about medical research in a subsequent comment, but the dialogue text is clear to see on page 18 and my later screen shots. I am referring to medical research.

Are you assuming that I forgot the attack by the original Canadian was about medical research, or that I am not smart enough to know what I was talking about?

yes we have issues with mortality rates, but that is a complex issue that has to do with other factors.

the fact is people come from around the world when needed to my city when that is one of the few places in the world where many specialties exist. A close friend needed a rare procedure, nothing life threatening but it needed to be done. Their out of pocket was u def a grand for a procedure that had a gross cost over $1 million. So please don’t lecture me. I know for a fact this specialty does not exist in socialized countries,

THE TOPIC IS U.S. EXTREMISTS

Yes , leftist extremists on this forum. I was attacked by a Canadian on this topic about that $400 billion research pause so this is where the replies rest.

you are free to continue to post about the Palestinian arrested yesterday here  illegally scheduled for deportation.

Never Again.

Always took that to mean anywhere to anyone.

Am I wrong? Does it actually mean exclusively for the jewish people instead?

as always...

Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

yes or no.

previous statements leave a strong impression.

Honestly mick I am not savvy enough to understand your question, as it is a false dichotomy.  That leaves a strong impression. Hamas are 100% Palestinian and the only ones with any power there in geopolitical terms. Go there and protest that peacefully. Good luck returning.

All I want is for both sides to negotiate a peace deal. I’ve said that many times on AMT.

if you believe Hamas is able to negotiate and hold peace then great. 

mickeyrat

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

the United States is the only country in North America that is a worldwide leader in medical innovation, technology and pharmaceuticals if not the worldwide leader. 

Other countries receive our technology, treatments and pharmaceuticals for pennies on the dollar. Canadians criticizing our system have little knowledge about the benefit they receive from it. For nearly free.

its absolutely possible that Donnie is fed up with the United States subsidizing other countries free healthcare on the backs of the American taxpayer.

its rich to read a comment from a member here attacking my comment about his research cuts with a whoops , someone  who directly benefits from my payment of taxes to my government.

Good goal post move. 

Keep reading. Take a closer look. Aim to do better. 

Even have a screen shot for you one and two posts above (yours)  to prove I am being accurate. The topic is medical research and how the us taxpayers subsidize this cost.


edit to include “yours”

 

I’m doing just fine. You claimed a substandard level of care in Canada, then said this when called out init:

‘Yes America has issues with mortality rates. The cause of that is very different from the level of Health Care available here.’

As if our low rankings in the health indicators has nothing to do with healthcare. And then you bounced over to our high costs bring innovation. It's okay to admit that Americans have decent health care when they can afford it. 

You have the topic completely incorrect. It is MEDICAL RESEARCH.

The genesis of the disagreement was my original complaint about the USA taxpayers subsidizing Ivy League medical costs. I was attacked first by a female Canadian for not understanding university research is for medical. A rather insulting comment from someone enjoying USA medical research to improve care she gets as a result of our tax dollars. Typically other countries pay for our advancements at a huge discount. Is this not fact?

Then a male Canadian decided to but in and again attack my comment, because I referred to “substandard medical care” in Canada. Yes I left off the bit about medical research in a subsequent comment, but the dialogue text is clear to see on page 18 and my later screen shots. I am referring to medical research.

Are you assuming that I forgot the attack by the original Canadian was about medical research, or that I am not smart enough to know what I was talking about?

yes we have issues with mortality rates, but that is a complex issue that has to do with other factors.

the fact is people come from around the world when needed to my city when that is one of the few places in the world where many specialties exist. A close friend needed a rare procedure, nothing life threatening but it needed to be done. Their out of pocket was u def a grand for a procedure that had a gross cost over $1 million. So please don’t lecture me. I know for a fact this specialty does not exist in socialized countries,

THE TOPIC IS U.S. EXTREMISTS

Yes , leftist extremists on this forum. I was attacked by a Canadian on this topic about that $400 billion research pause so this is where the replies rest.

you are free to continue to post about the Palestinian arrested yesterday here  illegally scheduled for deportation.

Never Again.

Always took that to mean anywhere to anyone.

Am I wrong? Does it actually mean exclusively for the jewish people instead?

as always...

Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

yes or no.

previous statements leave a strong impression.

Honestly mick I am not savvy enough to understand your question, as it is a false dichotomy.  That leaves a strong impression. Hamas are 100% Palestinian and the only ones with any power there in geopolitical terms. Go there and protest that peacefully. Good luck returning.

All I want is for both sides to negotiate a peace deal. I’ve said that many times on AMT.

if you believe Hamas is able to negotiate and hold peace then great. 

so have many of us. I dont believe either hamas or bibi et al are honest brokers for peace.

bibi needs this to continue to stay in power and now with the added need to stay out of prison.

meanwhile , more and more land is stolen .

before your retort about promises, there were any number of peoples occupying that region long before hebrews. Israelites or the 10 tribes came to be.

my issue is with the israeli government,  not its people, well most of them anyway.

was wondering the other day, by what percentage has the gazan population grown since the 2006 election that got hamas at the political table in gaza. then include those that couldnt vote due to age at that time.

the indignities the average Palestinian faces daily, who I would imagine simply want to be lect to live their lives,  with the same hoes and dreams as most folks the world over.

the threat to the average israeli is real. can you not admit that its also to some degree exacerbated by the israeli governments actions? especially when that fear is also oversold to the general population. what does that do the the mental health to be that on edge all the time. thats on both sides of the conflict. 

we see the correlation here with gop messaging. its fucking maddening.

visited dc last year so the wife could see this kpop band. aside from the usual we spent time at the Holocaust museum.  so much of that history glossed over or rushed through when I was in school. to see it all laid out, just how quickly the takeover of government occured then the roundups soon to follow.

horrifying in its speed then. 

no less egregious by drips and drabs now in this era. 

the two are not equal.

result pretty much is tough.  

a people suffering the indignity at the hands of another, subject to the whims of the government and its citizens. with no rights or redress.

Lerxst1992

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

the United States is the only country in North America that is a worldwide leader in medical innovation, technology and pharmaceuticals if not the worldwide leader. 

Other countries receive our technology, treatments and pharmaceuticals for pennies on the dollar. Canadians criticizing our system have little knowledge about the benefit they receive from it. For nearly free.

its absolutely possible that Donnie is fed up with the United States subsidizing other countries free healthcare on the backs of the American taxpayer.

its rich to read a comment from a member here attacking my comment about his research cuts with a whoops , someone  who directly benefits from my payment of taxes to my government.

Good goal post move. 

Keep reading. Take a closer look. Aim to do better. 

Even have a screen shot for you one and two posts above (yours)  to prove I am being accurate. The topic is medical research and how the us taxpayers subsidize this cost.


edit to include “yours”

 

I’m doing just fine. You claimed a substandard level of care in Canada, then said this when called out init:

‘Yes America has issues with mortality rates. The cause of that is very different from the level of Health Care available here.’

As if our low rankings in the health indicators has nothing to do with healthcare. And then you bounced over to our high costs bring innovation. It's okay to admit that Americans have decent health care when they can afford it. 

You have the topic completely incorrect. It is MEDICAL RESEARCH.

The genesis of the disagreement was my original complaint about the USA taxpayers subsidizing Ivy League medical costs. I was attacked first by a female Canadian for not understanding university research is for medical. A rather insulting comment from someone enjoying USA medical research to improve care she gets as a result of our tax dollars. Typically other countries pay for our advancements at a huge discount. Is this not fact?

Then a male Canadian decided to but in and again attack my comment, because I referred to “substandard medical care” in Canada. Yes I left off the bit about medical research in a subsequent comment, but the dialogue text is clear to see on page 18 and my later screen shots. I am referring to medical research.

Are you assuming that I forgot the attack by the original Canadian was about medical research, or that I am not smart enough to know what I was talking about?

yes we have issues with mortality rates, but that is a complex issue that has to do with other factors.

the fact is people come from around the world when needed to my city when that is one of the few places in the world where many specialties exist. A close friend needed a rare procedure, nothing life threatening but it needed to be done. Their out of pocket was u def a grand for a procedure that had a gross cost over $1 million. So please don’t lecture me. I know for a fact this specialty does not exist in socialized countries,

THE TOPIC IS U.S. EXTREMISTS

Yes , leftist extremists on this forum. I was attacked by a Canadian on this topic about that $400 billion research pause so this is where the replies rest.

you are free to continue to post about the Palestinian arrested yesterday here  illegally scheduled for deportation.

Never Again.

Always took that to mean anywhere to anyone.

Am I wrong? Does it actually mean exclusively for the jewish people instead?

as always...

Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

yes or no.

previous statements leave a strong impression.

Honestly mick I am not savvy enough to understand your question, as it is a false dichotomy.  That leaves a strong impression. Hamas are 100% Palestinian and the only ones with any power there in geopolitical terms. Go there and protest that peacefully. Good luck returning.

All I want is for both sides to negotiate a peace deal. I’ve said that many times on AMT.

if you believe Hamas is able to negotiate and hold peace then great. 

so have many of us. I dont believe either hamas or bibi et al are honest brokers for peace.

bibi needs this to continue to stay in power and now with the added need to stay out of prison.

meanwhile , more and more land is stolen .

before your retort about promises, there were any number of peoples occupying that region long before hebrews. Israelites or the 10 tribes came to be.

my issue is with the israeli government,  not its people, well most of them anyway.

was wondering the other day, by what percentage has the gazan population grown since the 2006 election that got hamas at the political table in gaza. then include those that couldnt vote due to age at that time.

the indignities the average Palestinian faces daily, who I would imagine simply want to be lect to live their lives,  with the same hoes and dreams as most folks the world over.

the threat to the average israeli is real. can you not admit that its also to some degree exacerbated by the israeli governments actions? especially when that fear is also oversold to the general population. what does that do the the mental health to be that on edge all the time. thats on both sides of the conflict. 

we see the correlation here with gop messaging. its fucking maddening.

visited dc last year so the wife could see this kpop band. aside from the usual we spent time at the Holocaust museum.  so much of that history glossed over or rushed through when I was in school. to see it all laid out, just how quickly the takeover of government occured then the roundups soon to follow.

horrifying in its speed then. 

no less egregious by drips and drabs now in this era. 

the two are not equal.

result pretty much is tough.  

a people suffering the indignity at the hands of another, subject to the whims of the government and its citizens. with no rights or redress.

But the Palestinian people openly supported the murder of women and children on oct 7. Hamas knew they’d get pounded for that and made a miscalculation that Iran would be able to protect them or some other crazy idea that it wouldn’t start an active and bloody war.

When leaders make terrible geopolitical decisions, this is the result. The people pay with their lives.

Israel has a track record of peace deals in the region. Palestine does not. That does not make war or Israeli actions easy to digest, but the only way out of this is to negotiate a peace deal. Both sides have claims to the disputed territory and it makes no sense to reargue that over and over again. At least I can admit Palestine has claims but so does Israel. If you disagree there is a book that will be by many’s knees tomorrow morning that documents this. And plenty of archeological evidence.

maybe you noticed I haven’t raised these points in years. That if anyone is the victim of ethnic cleaning and apartheid it’s the original Israelis. But I’m not here to reargue that. If Palestine believes that they  need to be 100% correct in this dispute then they need a way to raise money, build a military powerhouse and have the ultimate fight with Israel.  I’d rather they negotiate a peace deal, which requires both sides in order to give to get.

Halifax2TheMax

How long before the powers that be get scared of every “responsible” gun owner exercising their 2A rights?

A majority-Black town starts armed protection group after neo-Nazi rally

“I feel like it’s more secure now,” one woman said. “I know my son can walk home and be OK.”

Mar. 15, 2025, 9:00 AM EDT

LINCOLN HEIGHTS, Ohio — Nearly every morning for the last month, Jay has been waking up before sunrise to drive around the streets of Lincoln Heights, patrolling neighborhood bus stops to make sure children are getting to school safely.

“We have a very tight community, so all of our kids, they know us,” he said.

But for anyone outside the community, Jay’s presence might be a mystery. He wears a face covering along with tactical vests, and Jay is not his real name, which he asked not to use to prevent harassment from hate groups.

https://apple.news/AukSK-IntTVqi6qlPriWm4A

mickeyrat

https://www.threads.net/@christian.norway/post/DHWhMZWCqmf?xmt=AQGz7HeRkMTpQDtLiavlJu_s2VDWDSRIao3ztIeB8kA9ww

Tucker Carlson unmasked some days ago by stating he supports Putin and not Ukraine. Which his MAGA supporters approved of.

He has now gone one step further and openly supported the actual Nazi-Regime of Germany from ww2 by saying that Europe today would be a better place if the nazis had won the war.

How long will it be before the MAGAs as a whole start saying the nazis were the good guys and the allies the bad peeps?

Halifax2TheMax

mickeyrat said:

https://www.threads.net/@christian.norway/post/DHWhMZWCqmf?xmt=AQGz7HeRkMTpQDtLiavlJu_s2VDWDSRIao3ztIeB8kA9ww

Tucker Carlson unmasked some days ago by stating he supports Putin and not Ukraine. Which his MAGA supporters approved of.

He has now gone one step further and openly supported the actual Nazi-Regime of Germany from ww2 by saying that Europe today would be a better place if the nazis had won the war.

How long will it be before the MAGAs as a whole start saying the nazis were the good guys and the allies the bad peeps?

Whoa! What? But we were told that the Nazi comparisons were hyperbolic and overly dramatic!!! What? You don’t say!

Lerxst1992

mickeyrat said:

https://www.threads.net/@christian.norway/post/DHWhMZWCqmf?xmt=AQGz7HeRkMTpQDtLiavlJu_s2VDWDSRIao3ztIeB8kA9ww

Tucker Carlson unmasked some days ago by stating he supports Putin and not Ukraine. Which his MAGA supporters approved of.

He has now gone one step further and openly supported the actual Nazi-Regime of Germany from ww2 by saying that Europe today would be a better place if the nazis had won the war.

How long will it be before the MAGAs as a whole start saying the nazis were the good guys and the allies the bad peeps?

Whose comments in 2022 directly led to the Russian invasion?

failure to honestly answer leaves a strong impression.

HughFreakingDillon

More victim blaming. Sounds about right. 

mickeyrat

Leaders of the American Patriots Three Percent (AP3) militia have forged alliances with law enforcement around the US.

Internal files reveal their strategies for building these ties and where they’ve claimed success.
https://propub.li/4hpXTAk

trees

This musk /trump thing needs to end .
I didn't capitalize the names because they don’t deserve it .
Peace out. 
Hope this Circus ends very soon .

mickeyrat

https://www.threads.net/@ocularnervosa/post/DHhin8DuUR4?xmt=AQGzXv9m3k-5eSX1F6BGN5IQLC4u34WUNbMtaLrRJw-veQ

In case you forgot, or never learned about it, the worst domestic terrorist attack in America was committed by a right wing fanatic who had been indoctrinated by the right wing media.

PJ_Soul

This is amazing, lol. I said almost nothing at all days and days ago, and I return to read a response so disproportionate... This isn't the first time. I recall some non-directed comment I made about the US being a shitshow right now, and I think i'm still seeing the ripple effects of that from the same poster. I am quite taken aback by how truly little it takes to ruffle that feather.

Lerxst1992

Self flattery is not suiting and this happens to be a major story. Those who say anything against the lefts narrative gets attacked here. The original post slightly changed the topic to suit a narrative and piled on amt yankee bashing. This forum is expert at taunting those not on the left to leave amt or get themselves banned, while enjoying much greater posting privileges for the leftists. Everyone else in the political middle or right is either staying away or banned.

Enjoy our medical research subsidies that socialist nations enjoy for a deep discount, you are all welcome. And be thankful red hat went on the offensive early in his term, because the folks up north were about to elect a strong maga ally by +30. Now PP is inventing ways to distance himself from Donnie. you all are welcome for that.

Halifax2TheMax

Some don’t seem to recognize nor care that “world health” is a strategic aim of the US. A healthier world keeps the US healthier and safer. But to the authoritarians, “you owe the US.”

Garbage world view but what does one expect?

PJ_Soul

And there seems to be some kind of belief that no other countries are innovating or doing really anything other than leeching off the US, lol. It's completely delusional, so really not worth debating IMO.

Halifax2TheMax

PJ_Soul said:

And there seems to be some kind of belief that no other countries are innovating or doing really anything other than leeching off the US, lol. It's completely delusional, so really not worth debating IMO.

Exactly. Like the US is the only nation in the world where their government invests in medical research and innovation. And do we hear those snowflakes whining about how they’re “being ripped off”?

Lerxst1992

I never said “no other counties innovate,” only that the USA is a known leader in research and innovation, for which  Americans pay a premium and many socialist systems, which look to maximize cost savings, not as much. Except for countries like Japan Korea and Switzerland (with a health system not that different from the US). Many systems do not attempt to innovate. Instead of trying to discuss what might be the presidents strategy, it’s an attack zone here to all non believers of the left. 

This costs Americans a lot of money and attacks from our socialist neighbors deserve a strong rebuttal. I was responding to incessant posting a week or so ago that my country is a “sh!thole” and “Americans are to blame” (not trump voters).

for those “not wanting to debate” perhaps condescending comments like “not understanding university research” that is funded with OUR tax dollars is not the best strategy to accomplish that goal. Oops.

Get_Right

Japan's healthcare system is very different from the US. No networks, no co pays. Show up and get treated. Same with Dentists. Optometrists. Much cheaper. As far as research goes, it is global. I think we can agree that there are federal grants to entities that do not achieve their objectives. 400m to Columbia is just the tip of the iceberg.

brianlux

Lerxst1992 said:

Self flattery is not suiting and this happens to be a major story. Those who say anything against the lefts narrative gets attacked here. The original post slightly changed the topic to suit a narrative and piled on amt yankee bashing. This forum is expert at taunting those not on the left to leave amt or get themselves banned, while enjoying much greater posting privileges for the leftists. Everyone else in the political middle or right is either staying away or banned.

Enjoy our medical research subsidies that socialist nations enjoy for a deep discount, you are all welcome. And be thankful red hat went on the offensive early in his term, because the folks up north were about to elect a strong maga ally by +30. Now PP is inventing ways to distance himself from Donnie. you all are welcome for that.

I'm not sure being politically middle or left or right is the main issue anymore, Lerxst.  How can there be a middle when the choices right now essentially boil down to Democracy/ Constitutional Government, or Autocracy/ Tyranny?  I know that sound overly simplified, but its not because you can be either conservative OR liberal*  OR some of each under a Democracy that upholds the U.S. Constitution.  Under an autocratic state ruled by tyranny, you don't get to be either.  You become a slave or are eliminated. 

*(I happen to sort of be both, depending on what the topic is, and I avoid both labels because I believe in love, critical thinking, and doing what makes sense)