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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings

    Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured - CBS News

    Milwaukee Juneteenth shooting: Six teens shot after celebration outside downtown | CNN

    4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country (nbcnews.com)

    Juneteenth violence: At least 8 killed, dozens injured during Saturday shootings | Fox News
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings

    Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured - CBS News

    Milwaukee Juneteenth shooting: Six teens shot after celebration outside downtown | CNN

    4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country (nbcnews.com)

    Juneteenth violence: At least 8 killed, dozens injured during Saturday shootings | Fox News
    12 dead...that sucks. We need better gun control.
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  • The Juggler
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    edited June 2023
    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Sorry....why do you think people care about only certain demographics when it comes to gun violence? What do you mean?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings

    Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured - CBS News

    Milwaukee Juneteenth shooting: Six teens shot after celebration outside downtown | CNN

    4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country (nbcnews.com)

    Juneteenth violence: At least 8 killed, dozens injured during Saturday shootings | Fox News
    12 dead...that sucks. We need better gun control.
    4th of July is coming up. Should be a great weekend for gun violence. Can’t wait. Who will hear the gun shots with all the fireworks? ‘Murica.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Should this “responsible” gun owner be allowed to possess firearms and should he be prosecuted? And talk about white privilege, eh?

    Teens turned around in a fire chief’s driveway. He pulled a gun on them.

    Last year, a South Carolina emergency dispatcher stayed on the line with two teenagers who said they were being chased by two pickup trucks at high speed. On the other end of the call, the voice sounded increasingly desperate.

    “They’re making us get out of the car with guns,” one of the teenagers said, according to audio recordings of the 911 call obtained by The Washington Post. “Ma’am, I’m sorry. I’m getting — we’re getting on the ground.”

    The teens had, about 10 minutes earlier, told the dispatcher they had turned around in someone’s driveway, prompting the man and another driver — later identified as Townville Fire Chief Billy McAdams and his son — to pursue them, according to the audio. Over the next several minutes, the teenagers said they’d almost been chased off the road and blocked — and by 7:20 p.m., were face down in the middle of a road with a pistol pointing at them.

    That Aug. 29 encounter is now at the center of an investigation South Carolina authorities reopened last week. It’s also the basis of a lawsuit filed earlier this year against McAdams and his son, Wyatt, by the mothers of two 17-year-olds identified in court documents as “John Doe” and “Richard Roe.”

    The suit accuses the McAdamses of falsely imprisoning the two teens, assaulting them and intentionally inflicting emotional distress. In a court filing, McAdams admitted to chasing the car and pointing his pistol at the boys but denied the charges set forth in the lawsuit.

    “First and foremost, Mr. McAdams is extremely concerned about the situation and is committed to addressing any allegations with the utmost sincerity and cooperation,” Amanda Bradley, the McAdamses’ attorney, said in a statement to The Post. “We believe a complete picture of all the facts will validate our client’s position and are confident in the ability of the legal system to deliver justice.”

    No one was charged after the incident, and the case was closed soon after. This week, FOX Carolinaobtained the reports and 911 recordings. The station reported that the investigation into the 2022 incident had been reopened.

    Jimmy Watt, a spokesperson with the Oconee County Sheriff’s Office, confirmed to The Post that the case has been reopened “due to new information.”

    The situation began around 7 p.m. one night last summer when Doe and Roe were scouting geese at a nearby lake ahead of the hunting season, the lawsuit alleges.

    The teenagers were driving down a road near the rural town of Townville when they realized they had to turn back. They spotted a “large, well-maintained gravel drive that appeared to be suitable for turning around,” the lawsuit states, and decided to do a three-point turn there.

    It was McAdams’s driveway. The fire chief, who in 2016 gained national attention after being one of the first responders to the Townville Elementary School shooting, didn’t recognize the car, nor could he see who was inside because of its tinted windows, according to a sheriff’s office incident report. McAdams and his son then jumped into theirtrucks and followed the teenagers — a decision McAdams told an officer he made following “a lot of thefts” at his home, the report states.

    Noticing they were being chased, the teenagers called 911.

    “They’re yelling and trying to run us off the road,” a teen told the dispatcher. “And all we did was we just made a little quick turn around in their yard, gave them a wave because they were in their garage. We went by, and they’ve just been chasing us ever since.”

    “We were going to pull over to just like, tell them what we’re doing, but they were extremely enraged, and we didn’t want to have a gun pulled on us or anything like that,” he added, according to the audio recordings.

    During the next 15 minutes, dispatchers from two counties scrambled to make sense of what was going on. While dispatchers from Oconee County talked to the two teenagers who said they’d been pulled into a high-speed chase, McAdams had called the Anderson County Sheriff’s Office to say he “possibly witnessed a robbery and is following a car” into Oconee County, according to recordings of the calls.

    When authorities in the two counties realized it was the same incident, the Oconee County dispatcher urged an Anderson County officer to tell McAdams not to exit his vehicle, but the fire chief had already hung up, the audio recordings show.

    The teens, meanwhile, had been sandwiched at an intersection by the McAdamses, the lawsuit alleges. The fire chief then screamed at them and urged them to get on the ground. While they did, they kept in contact with the emergency dispatchers, who asked them to pass the phone to the fire chief. McAdams later said in a court filing that he “put away his weapon when he saw how young the two unidentified individuals were.”

    “Billy, listen. Listen. Can you get in your vehicle as well and just not talk to them and separate yourself from them? We’ve got people headed that way, okay?” the dispatcher told McAdams, according to the recordings.

    “I’m good. I can sit right here. We’re going to pull up to this next driveway … I’m not going anywhere,” he responded. McAdams and the two teenagers then waited for law enforcement in a “random lady’s driveway,” one of the teenagers said.

    Officer Patrick Heaton from the Oconee County Sheriff’s Office arrived by 7:28 p.m. He interviewed everyone involved and cleared the scene. A few hours later, the “frustrated” mother of one of the teenagers called the sheriff’s office and said her son “did not understand why a gun had to be involved,” according to an incident report.

    A report from the sheriff’s office documents efforts to call the families as part of the ensuing investigation, but when officers couldn’t make contact after multiple tries, the case was closed.

    The teenagers’ mothers filed the lawsuit against McAdams and his son on April 3. Their complaint alleges that his conduct was “utterly intolerable in a civilized community.”

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  • josevolution
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    Should this “responsible” gun owner be allowed to possess firearms and should he be prosecuted? And talk about white privilege, eh?

    Teens turned around in a fire chief’s driveway. He pulled a gun on them.

    Last year, a South Carolina emergency dispatcher stayed on the line with two teenagers who said they were being chased by two pickup trucks at high speed. On the other end of the call, the voice sounded increasingly desperate.

    “They’re making us get out of the car with guns,” one of the teenagers said, according to audio recordings of the 911 call obtained by The Washington Post. “Ma’am, I’m sorry. I’m getting — we’re getting on the ground.”

    The teens had, about 10 minutes earlier, told the dispatcher they had turned around in someone’s driveway, prompting the man and another driver — later identified as Townville Fire Chief Billy McAdams and his son — to pursue them, according to the audio. Over the next several minutes, the teenagers said they’d almost been chased off the road and blocked — and by 7:20 p.m., were face down in the middle of a road with a pistol pointing at them.

    That Aug. 29 encounter is now at the center of an investigation South Carolina authorities reopened last week. It’s also the basis of a lawsuit filed earlier this year against McAdams and his son, Wyatt, by the mothers of two 17-year-olds identified in court documents as “John Doe” and “Richard Roe.”

    The suit accuses the McAdamses of falsely imprisoning the two teens, assaulting them and intentionally inflicting emotional distress. In a court filing, McAdams admitted to chasing the car and pointing his pistol at the boys but denied the charges set forth in the lawsuit.

    “First and foremost, Mr. McAdams is extremely concerned about the situation and is committed to addressing any allegations with the utmost sincerity and cooperation,” Amanda Bradley, the McAdamses’ attorney, said in a statement to The Post. “We believe a complete picture of all the facts will validate our client’s position and are confident in the ability of the legal system to deliver justice.”

    No one was charged after the incident, and the case was closed soon after. This week, FOX Carolinaobtained the reports and 911 recordings. The station reported that the investigation into the 2022 incident had been reopened.

    Jimmy Watt, a spokesperson with the Oconee County Sheriff’s Office, confirmed to The Post that the case has been reopened “due to new information.”

    The situation began around 7 p.m. one night last summer when Doe and Roe were scouting geese at a nearby lake ahead of the hunting season, the lawsuit alleges.

    The teenagers were driving down a road near the rural town of Townville when they realized they had to turn back. They spotted a “large, well-maintained gravel drive that appeared to be suitable for turning around,” the lawsuit states, and decided to do a three-point turn there.

    It was McAdams’s driveway. The fire chief, who in 2016 gained national attention after being one of the first responders to the Townville Elementary School shooting, didn’t recognize the car, nor could he see who was inside because of its tinted windows, according to a sheriff’s office incident report. McAdams and his son then jumped into theirtrucks and followed the teenagers — a decision McAdams told an officer he made following “a lot of thefts” at his home, the report states.

    Noticing they were being chased, the teenagers called 911.

    “They’re yelling and trying to run us off the road,” a teen told the dispatcher. “And all we did was we just made a little quick turn around in their yard, gave them a wave because they were in their garage. We went by, and they’ve just been chasing us ever since.”

    “We were going to pull over to just like, tell them what we’re doing, but they were extremely enraged, and we didn’t want to have a gun pulled on us or anything like that,” he added, according to the audio recordings.

    During the next 15 minutes, dispatchers from two counties scrambled to make sense of what was going on. While dispatchers from Oconee County talked to the two teenagers who said they’d been pulled into a high-speed chase, McAdams had called the Anderson County Sheriff’s Office to say he “possibly witnessed a robbery and is following a car” into Oconee County, according to recordings of the calls.

    When authorities in the two counties realized it was the same incident, the Oconee County dispatcher urged an Anderson County officer to tell McAdams not to exit his vehicle, but the fire chief had already hung up, the audio recordings show.

    The teens, meanwhile, had been sandwiched at an intersection by the McAdamses, the lawsuit alleges. The fire chief then screamed at them and urged them to get on the ground. While they did, they kept in contact with the emergency dispatchers, who asked them to pass the phone to the fire chief. McAdams later said in a court filing that he “put away his weapon when he saw how young the two unidentified individuals were.”

    “Billy, listen. Listen. Can you get in your vehicle as well and just not talk to them and separate yourself from them? We’ve got people headed that way, okay?” the dispatcher told McAdams, according to the recordings.

    “I’m good. I can sit right here. We’re going to pull up to this next driveway … I’m not going anywhere,” he responded. McAdams and the two teenagers then waited for law enforcement in a “random lady’s driveway,” one of the teenagers said.

    Officer Patrick Heaton from the Oconee County Sheriff’s Office arrived by 7:28 p.m. He interviewed everyone involved and cleared the scene. A few hours later, the “frustrated” mother of one of the teenagers called the sheriff’s office and said her son “did not understand why a gun had to be involved,” according to an incident report.

    A report from the sheriff’s office documents efforts to call the families as part of the ensuing investigation, but when officers couldn’t make contact after multiple tries, the case was closed.

    The teenagers’ mothers filed the lawsuit against McAdams and his son on April 3. Their complaint alleges that his conduct was “utterly intolerable in a civilized community.”

    It’s perfectly normal to do that chase the car for making a three point turn and terrorizing the teens just to teach them a lesson on proper Uturn techniques! With a gun drawn 
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  • OnWis97
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    Should this “responsible” gun owner be allowed to possess firearms and should he be prosecuted? And talk about white privilege, eh?

    Teens turned around in a fire chief’s driveway. He pulled a gun on them.

    "Pulled a gun?" Pfft. If nobody was shot, that's a win nowadays.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    OnWis97 said:
    Should this “responsible” gun owner be allowed to possess firearms and should he be prosecuted? And talk about white privilege, eh?

    Teens turned around in a fire chief’s driveway. He pulled a gun on them.

    "Pulled a gun?" Pfft. If nobody was shot, that's a win nowadays.
    Well, say, versus lying on a federal firearms application?
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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  • seanwon
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    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings

    Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured - CBS News

    Milwaukee Juneteenth shooting: Six teens shot after celebration outside downtown | CNN

    4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country (nbcnews.com)

    Juneteenth violence: At least 8 killed, dozens injured during Saturday shootings | Fox News
    Thank you, saved me the work.  
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  • josevolution
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    seanwon said:
    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings

    Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured - CBS News

    Milwaukee Juneteenth shooting: Six teens shot after celebration outside downtown | CNN

    4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country (nbcnews.com)

    Juneteenth violence: At least 8 killed, dozens injured during Saturday shootings | Fox News
    Thank you, saved me the work.  
    The 4th is next week guns should be blazing that weekend till weds the 5th 
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  • nicknyr15
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    edited June 2023
    seanwon said:
    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings

    Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured - CBS News

    Milwaukee Juneteenth shooting: Six teens shot after celebration outside downtown | CNN

    4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country (nbcnews.com)

    Juneteenth violence: At least 8 killed, dozens injured during Saturday shootings | Fox News
    Thank you, saved me the work.  
    The 4th is next week guns should be blazing that weekend till weds the 5th 
    Yea but

    what type  of gun?
    what color was the shooter?

    these are the only things that matter to politicians, news reporters and voters. Because neither side has shown that they really care about this issue imo. All theater 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995
    nicknyr15 said:
    seanwon said:
    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings

    Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured - CBS News

    Milwaukee Juneteenth shooting: Six teens shot after celebration outside downtown | CNN

    4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country (nbcnews.com)

    Juneteenth violence: At least 8 killed, dozens injured during Saturday shootings | Fox News
    Thank you, saved me the work.  
    The 4th is next week guns should be blazing that weekend till weds the 5th 
    Yea but

    what type  of gun?
    what color was the shooter?

    these are the only things that matter to politicians, news reporters and voters. Because neither side has shown that they really care about this issue imo. All theater 
    One side has proposed legislation ready to go and continues to fund things like the ATF at levels to be effective. You know, to enforce those gun laws the likes of Hunter Biden flout and some seem to care about on occasion.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,204
    nicknyr15 said:
    seanwon said:
    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings

    Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured - CBS News

    Milwaukee Juneteenth shooting: Six teens shot after celebration outside downtown | CNN

    4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country (nbcnews.com)

    Juneteenth violence: At least 8 killed, dozens injured during Saturday shootings | Fox News
    Thank you, saved me the work.  
    The 4th is next week guns should be blazing that weekend till weds the 5th 
    Yea but

    what type  of gun?
    what color was the shooter?

    these are the only things that matter to politicians, news reporters and voters. Because neither side has shown that they really care about this issue imo. All theater 
    One side has proposed legislation ready to go and continues to fund things like the ATF at levels to be effective. You know, to enforce those gun laws the likes of Hunter Biden flout and some seem to care about on occasion.
    All theater to me. Wake me up when something changes. Until then, fuck them all. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    seanwon said:
    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings

    Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured - CBS News

    Milwaukee Juneteenth shooting: Six teens shot after celebration outside downtown | CNN

    4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country (nbcnews.com)

    Juneteenth violence: At least 8 killed, dozens injured during Saturday shootings | Fox News
    Thank you, saved me the work.  
    The 4th is next week guns should be blazing that weekend till weds the 5th 
    Yea but

    what type  of gun?
    what color was the shooter?

    these are the only things that matter to politicians, news reporters and voters. Because neither side has shown that they really care about this issue imo. All theater 
    One side has proposed legislation ready to go and continues to fund things like the ATF at levels to be effective. You know, to enforce those gun laws the likes of Hunter Biden flout and some seem to care about on occasion.
    All theater to me. Wake me up when something changes. Until then, fuck them all. 
    Hope you’re staying home on election day.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,204
    edited June 2023
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    seanwon said:
    seanwon said:

    Oh look, complaints about gun violence are back!  The boards Libbies had absolutely nothing to say about the many shootings at Juneteenth celebrations over the weekend.  That's ok I guess. It's only certain demographics that they have a problem with when it comes to gun violence. 


    Please share those many shootings

    Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured - CBS News

    Milwaukee Juneteenth shooting: Six teens shot after celebration outside downtown | CNN

    4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country (nbcnews.com)

    Juneteenth violence: At least 8 killed, dozens injured during Saturday shootings | Fox News
    Thank you, saved me the work.  
    The 4th is next week guns should be blazing that weekend till weds the 5th 
    Yea but

    what type  of gun?
    what color was the shooter?

    these are the only things that matter to politicians, news reporters and voters. Because neither side has shown that they really care about this issue imo. All theater 
    One side has proposed legislation ready to go and continues to fund things like the ATF at levels to be effective. You know, to enforce those gun laws the likes of Hunter Biden flout and some seem to care about on occasion.
    All theater to me. Wake me up when something changes. Until then, fuck them all. 
    Hope you’re staying home on election day.
    Never. I don’t know what you’re insinuating with that. And I don’t really care. 
    Post edited by nicknyr15 on
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    White Florida woman charged with manslaughter in shooting of Black neighbor
    2 hours ago

    A white woman accused of firing through her door and fatally shooting a Black mother in front of her 9-year-old son in central Florida was charged Monday with manslaughter and assault.

    Susan Lorincz was arrested earlier this month following the fatal shooting of Ajike Owens in Ocala, Florida. She was formally charged with one count of manslaughter with a firearm and one count of assault.

    State Attorney William Gladson said his office contemplated filing a second-degree murder charge but that prosecutors concluded there was insufficient evidence that Lorincz had “hatred, spite, ill will or evil intent” toward Owens.

    “As deplorable as the defendant's actions were in this case, there is insufficient evidence to prove this specific and required element of second-degree murder," Gladson said in a statement. “I am aware of the desire of the family, and some community members, that the defendant be charged with second-degree murder. My obligation as State Attorney is to follow the law in each case that I prosecute.”

    If convicted, Lorincz faces up to 30 years in prison. Amanda Sizemore, Lorincz's attorney from the public defender's office, said she had no comment at this time.

    Anthony Thomas, an attorney for Owens' family, said the decision against filing a second-degree murder charge was disappointing.

    “We firmly believe that justice demands nothing less,” Thomas said in a statement. “The failure of the prosecutor to charge Susan with what truly reflected her wanton, reckless behavior undermines our ability to even get real accountability.”

    Owens was killed June 2 in Ocala, about 83 miles (133 kilometers) north of Orlando.

    After the shooting, Lorincz told investigators she had problems for two years with being disrespected by children in the neighborhood — including Owens’ children, who are ages 12, 9, 7 and 3.

    According to an arrest report from the Marion County Sheriff’s Office, Lorincz said she had a headache the day of the shooting and that children were running and yelling outside her apartment. That night, while a few children were playing basketball, Lorincz threw a pair of roller skates at them, hitting one on the feet.

    Owens then came over and knocked on her door. Lorincz told investigators that Owens threatened to kill her and banged on the door so hard she feared Owens would break it down.

    Lorincz fired a single round from her .380-caliber handgun, the sheriff’s report says, which went through the closed door and fatally struck Owens.

    A judge has granted Lorincz a $154,000 bond while ordering her to wear an ankle monitor and to stay away from Owens' family.


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    Flo Rida “responsible.” 30 rounds? Guy needs to go to the range and practice. And I thought knowing what was down range was being a “responsible” gun owner?

    Florida man shoots pool cleaner he mistook as intruder

    A Florida man shot at his pool cleaner earlier this month, believing the cleaner was a home intruder, the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office announced Monday.

    Jana Hocevar reported being startled when she saw an unknown man on her pool deck in Dunedin around 9 p.m. on June 15. Her husband, Bradley Hocevar, yelled at the man, identified as Karl Polek, several times asking him to leave the premises as he retrieved a gun and Jana called 911, according to a report from the sheriff’s office.

    Bradley fired toward Polek as Polek approached the door with a flashlight and continued to fire as Polek fled the scene, firing a total of 30 rounds in about 90 seconds. Polek was struck with shrapnel from a bullet and glass, sustaining minor injuries.

    The Hocevars mistook Polek, who has cleaned their pool for about six months to a year, as a burglar, as he had never arrived so late in the evening to perform his duties, Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said during a press conference

    Gualtieri also noted that Polek, who was running late, did not call or knock on the door of the Hocevars before entering the pool premises.

    Gualtieri called the incident “lawful but awful,” noting that Hocevar was “acting within the law when he fired.”

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