Ohana Festival Merch

Giventofly2031

^^ not for sale 

demetrios

Giventofly2031 said:

100 Pacer

👏 

JB56195

Just a quick question.  Does anyone have any idea why some artists like Ames have 100 AP, 80 variants, and a handful of GID for Ohana while Ian Williams has 100 AP variants of the festival show.  Why not let him sell variants and APs?  Only helps the artist, doesn't hurt overall poster sales, makes a few more fans happy and, and doesn't hurt the band.

Klausen and Munk has had both APs and variants for shows in the past so it can't just be Barry's relationship with the band.

lotsalemon

Giventofly2031 said:

^^ not for sale 

congrats!

Saltzy23

@lmckenney24 is a man amongst men.

Saltzy23

Giventofly2031 said:

Whoa.

RS65573

Giventofly2031 said:

^^ not for sale 

Score of the day! Glad someone got it. Congrats man.

lmckenney24

Saltzy23 said:

@lmckenney24 is a man amongst men.
 

on2legs

JB56195 said:

Just a quick question.  Does anyone have any idea why some artists like Ames have 100 AP, 80 variants, and a handful of GID for Ohana while Ian Williams has 100 AP variants of the festival show.  Why not let him sell variants and APs?  Only helps the artist, doesn't hurt overall poster sales, makes a few more fans happy and, and doesn't hurt the band.

Klausen and Munk has had both APs and variants for shows in the past so it can't just be Barry's relationship with the band.

It’s up to the band.  I’m assuming since Ames is the OG for PJ posters, they get the best deal. 

KM73780

Klausen has discussed that on the forum before. Depends on the deal negotiated by the artist. 

hihobibo

Relating to the discussion on stores not selling limited items as retail, but putting the items out to bid, I know someone who works for a skate shop. That person said that when they get the limited shoes in, they always hold some pairs back to sell at the market value. The account isn't under the shop's name, so they don't worry about getting tracked down, especially when they have multiple accounts. 

mfc2006

Struck out on the deck & Ames. Oh well. Congrats to those that scored!

starmap3333

swing and a miss

PJlive

Saltzy23 said:

Gern Blansten said:

droptheleash9 said:

Why don't artists just charge a higher price for their APs if they know it's going to be in hot demand? I think everyone would rather the money go to the artist than people trying to make a quick buck off of someone else's work.

As for artists selling right to third parties/posting on auction sites, this definitely happens.

That part baffles me as well.  It must be some sort of contractual thing with PJ but that doesn't even make sense because PJ really isn't benefiting from keeping artist sales low.

Why doesn't the artist just sell as many signed APs as ordered?  We benefit, artist benefits, PJ benefits, etc.

Baffling I say

Meh, that would destroy a lot of the value, which let's face it, is important when we are talking about art.

I just think they need to raise the sales price.

I would have dropped $500 on this skateboard today, and directly where the artist would get the profit.

If these guys AREN'T leaking a few, it's gonna be infuriating to see your art, that you charged $100 for, selling for many many multiples that amount on eBay.

Again, I'm not even against it.  If it was me, I would absolutely do it myself.

You realize you can print and make this same skateboard for far less correct? Not condoning it but you can.

starmap3333

I know we can't post links but here's the description of the Ohana poster just listed for sale somewhere.  EL-OHHHHHH-EL!!! :0)  "Ohana Encore Festival Day 2 poster October 2 2021 Pearl Jam Ames Bros 10c This is a confirmed order from Ten Club. Print will be shipped once received." Sick 'em Santos!!!

Saltzy23

PJlive said:

Saltzy23 said:

Gern Blansten said:

droptheleash9 said:

Why don't artists just charge a higher price for their APs if they know it's going to be in hot demand? I think everyone would rather the money go to the artist than people trying to make a quick buck off of someone else's work.

As for artists selling right to third parties/posting on auction sites, this definitely happens.

That part baffles me as well.  It must be some sort of contractual thing with PJ but that doesn't even make sense because PJ really isn't benefiting from keeping artist sales low.

Why doesn't the artist just sell as many signed APs as ordered?  We benefit, artist benefits, PJ benefits, etc.

Baffling I say

Meh, that would destroy a lot of the value, which let's face it, is important when we are talking about art.

I just think they need to raise the sales price.

I would have dropped $500 on this skateboard today, and directly where the artist would get the profit.

If these guys AREN'T leaking a few, it's gonna be infuriating to see your art, that you charged $100 for, selling for many many multiples that amount on eBay.

Again, I'm not even against it.  If it was me, I would absolutely do it myself.

You realize you can print and make this same skateboard for far less correct? Not condoning it but you can.

I can also watch the same NBA clip as is on an Top Shot NFT, but that doesn't mean they are the same thing.

Saltzy23

SHZA said:

Saltzy23 said:

Gern Blansten said:

droptheleash9 said:

Why don't artists just charge a higher price for their APs if they know it's going to be in hot demand? I think everyone would rather the money go to the artist than people trying to make a quick buck off of someone else's work.

As for artists selling right to third parties/posting on auction sites, this definitely happens.

That part baffles me as well.  It must be some sort of contractual thing with PJ but that doesn't even make sense because PJ really isn't benefiting from keeping artist sales low.

Why doesn't the artist just sell as many signed APs as ordered?  We benefit, artist benefits, PJ benefits, etc.

Baffling I say

Meh, that would destroy a lot of the value, which let's face it, is important when we are talking about art.

I just think they need to raise the sales price.

I would have dropped $500 on this skateboard today, and directly where the artist would get the profit.

If these guys AREN'T leaking a few, it's gonna be infuriating to see your art, that you charged $100 for, selling for many many multiples that amount on eBay.

Again, I'm not even against it.  If it was me, I would absolutely do it myself.

You are right about larger editions killing the value but the same would be true of jacking up the price. The demand would plummet at $500. Insane demand creates buzz for the next drop.

STRONGLY disagree.

There would be exactly the same demand at $500 as there was at $100.

Certainly for something there was only 25 of that so many people wanted.

$500 is still probably like 1/3 of what the secondary market price is.

Again, the sparkle print of the OE poster sold on ebay for $750, and this skateboard is far more desirable.

SHZA

Saltzy23 said:

SHZA said:

Saltzy23 said:

Gern Blansten said:

droptheleash9 said:

Why don't artists just charge a higher price for their APs if they know it's going to be in hot demand? I think everyone would rather the money go to the artist than people trying to make a quick buck off of someone else's work.

As for artists selling right to third parties/posting on auction sites, this definitely happens.

That part baffles me as well.  It must be some sort of contractual thing with PJ but that doesn't even make sense because PJ really isn't benefiting from keeping artist sales low.

Why doesn't the artist just sell as many signed APs as ordered?  We benefit, artist benefits, PJ benefits, etc.

Baffling I say

Meh, that would destroy a lot of the value, which let's face it, is important when we are talking about art.

I just think they need to raise the sales price.

I would have dropped $500 on this skateboard today, and directly where the artist would get the profit.

If these guys AREN'T leaking a few, it's gonna be infuriating to see your art, that you charged $100 for, selling for many many multiples that amount on eBay.

Again, I'm not even against it.  If it was me, I would absolutely do it myself.

You are right about larger editions killing the value but the same would be true of jacking up the price. The demand would plummet at $500. Insane demand creates buzz for the next drop.

STRONGLY disagree.

There would be exactly the same demand at $500 as there was at $100.

Certainly for something there was only 25 of that so many people wanted.

$500 is still probably like 1/3 of what the secondary market price is.

Again, the sparkle print of the OE poster sold on ebay for $750, and this skateboard is far more desirable.

How many people are willing to pay $750 for the sparkle foil? About two, hence the auction not ending higher. If the retail was $750, it would still be on Ames site. I'm not sure what the max price point would be for these to be an instant sellout but eventually you get to a point that only the top bidder would pay on the market and the vast majority will pass and say it's a disgusting cash grab which alienates most fans. 

Saltzy23

SHZA said:

Saltzy23 said:

SHZA said:

Saltzy23 said:

Gern Blansten said:

droptheleash9 said:

Why don't artists just charge a higher price for their APs if they know it's going to be in hot demand? I think everyone would rather the money go to the artist than people trying to make a quick buck off of someone else's work.

As for artists selling right to third parties/posting on auction sites, this definitely happens.

That part baffles me as well.  It must be some sort of contractual thing with PJ but that doesn't even make sense because PJ really isn't benefiting from keeping artist sales low.

Why doesn't the artist just sell as many signed APs as ordered?  We benefit, artist benefits, PJ benefits, etc.

Baffling I say

Meh, that would destroy a lot of the value, which let's face it, is important when we are talking about art.

I just think they need to raise the sales price.

I would have dropped $500 on this skateboard today, and directly where the artist would get the profit.

If these guys AREN'T leaking a few, it's gonna be infuriating to see your art, that you charged $100 for, selling for many many multiples that amount on eBay.

Again, I'm not even against it.  If it was me, I would absolutely do it myself.

You are right about larger editions killing the value but the same would be true of jacking up the price. The demand would plummet at $500. Insane demand creates buzz for the next drop.

STRONGLY disagree.

There would be exactly the same demand at $500 as there was at $100.

Certainly for something there was only 25 of that so many people wanted.

$500 is still probably like 1/3 of what the secondary market price is.

Again, the sparkle print of the OE poster sold on ebay for $750, and this skateboard is far more desirable.

How many people are willing to pay $750 for the sparkle foil? About two, hence the auction not ending higher. If the retail was $750, it would still be on Ames site. I'm not sure what the max price point would be for these to be an instant sellout but eventually you get to a point that only the top bidder would pay on the market and the vast majority will pass and say it's a disgusting cash grab which alienates most fans. 

I believe they call this 'capitalism'.