America’s March to Facism

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This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-elections
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-elections
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Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-elections"Listeners should flood into the lowest rung of the party structure: the precincts."They've already flooded the lowest rung. Can't go much lower. Sheesh!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-electionsWhich is why, as he will tell you, Tom Nichols, a conservative and former Republican, advocates for voting Republicans out of office down to, as he says, "the molecular level."The most visible current example of this is the behavior cropping up at school board meetings around the country: anti-mask, anti-vax, QAnon election deniers bring their crazy out in force, disrupt the meetings, threaten board members, until the current board members quit in disgust, and then the QNuts run for school board, and win, because they have rendered the roles unappealing to anyone unwilling to out-crazy them.I'll be voting for Democrats for the forseeable future, until the GOP or its replacement restores some sanity on the the right and cleanses itself of anti-democratic (that's small-"d" democratic) loons.All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0 -
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curmudgeoness said:Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-electionsWhich is why, as he will tell you, Tom Nichols, a conservative and former Republican, advocates for voting Republicans out of office down to, as he says, "the molecular level."The most visible current example of this is the behavior cropping up at school board meetings around the country: anti-mask, anti-vax, QAnon election deniers bring their crazy out in force, disrupt the meetings, threaten board members, until the current board members quit in disgust, and then the QNuts run for school board, and win, because they have rendered the roles unappealing to anyone unwilling to out-crazy them.I'll be voting for Democrats for the forseeable future, until the GOP or its replacement restores some sanity on the the right and cleanses itself of anti-democratic (that's small-"d" democratic) loons.The GOP has become so unhinged, I find it hard to imagine voting for a Republican. And yet, I wouldn't want us to be a single-party political system.
The other night I was toying with the idea of what if enough Democrats switched parties and aligned themselves with the Lincoln Project Republicans and pulled that party back away from the hard right?
And I think the Democrat party needs some repair as well. I've been noticing more and more that Dems tend too often to be reactionary and a bit knee jerk in their response to some issues rather than critical in their thinking, tend to take things for granted so don't show up to vote (one of the reasons Hillary lost and CA governor Newsom might be ousted), and vote strictly partly line (a general habit with both parties) without scrutinizing the candidate they vote for.
The whole system is broke and needs mending, the difference between the two parties being that the right has gone off well beyond the deep end."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
brianlux said:curmudgeoness said:Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-electionsWhich is why, as he will tell you, Tom Nichols, a conservative and former Republican, advocates for voting Republicans out of office down to, as he says, "the molecular level."The most visible current example of this is the behavior cropping up at school board meetings around the country: anti-mask, anti-vax, QAnon election deniers bring their crazy out in force, disrupt the meetings, threaten board members, until the current board members quit in disgust, and then the QNuts run for school board, and win, because they have rendered the roles unappealing to anyone unwilling to out-crazy them.I'll be voting for Democrats for the forseeable future, until the GOP or its replacement restores some sanity on the the right and cleanses itself of anti-democratic (that's small-"d" democratic) loons.The GOP has become so unhinged, I find it hard to imagine voting for a Republican. And yet, I wouldn't want us to be a single-party political system.
The other night I was toying with the idea of what if enough Democrats switched parties and aligned themselves with the Lincoln Project Republicans and pulled that party back away from the hard right?
And I think the Democrat party needs some repair as well. I've been noticing more and more that Dems tend too often to be reactionary and a bit knee jerk in their response to some issues rather than critical in their thinking, tend to take things for granted so don't show up to vote (one of the reasons Hillary lost and CA governor Newsom might be ousted), and vote strictly partly line (a general habit with both parties) without scrutinizing the candidate they vote for.
The whole system is broke and needs mending, the difference between the two parties being that the right has gone off well beyond the deep end.We definitely need a healthy two- (or more) party system. I'm pretty centrist, myself. Call me a constitutionalist or a small-"c" conservative or a civil libertarian, I'll wear any of those labels with pride. I vote straight Dem, for now, even though the far left makes me cringe, because I'll take cringiness over fascism every day.The Never-T****ers are mocked by the right and viewed with suspicion by the left, but IMO they are principled conservatives, whether you like their policies or not, who are committed to the idea of America as a democracy. Some have joined the Democratic party, at least for now, others no longer have party affiliation, but it's my hope that when all of this over, assuming that it ever ends, they will be able to form a new conservative party populated by rational adults.All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0 -
curmudgeoness said:brianlux said:curmudgeoness said:Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-electionsWhich is why, as he will tell you, Tom Nichols, a conservative and former Republican, advocates for voting Republicans out of office down to, as he says, "the molecular level."The most visible current example of this is the behavior cropping up at school board meetings around the country: anti-mask, anti-vax, QAnon election deniers bring their crazy out in force, disrupt the meetings, threaten board members, until the current board members quit in disgust, and then the QNuts run for school board, and win, because they have rendered the roles unappealing to anyone unwilling to out-crazy them.I'll be voting for Democrats for the forseeable future, until the GOP or its replacement restores some sanity on the the right and cleanses itself of anti-democratic (that's small-"d" democratic) loons.The GOP has become so unhinged, I find it hard to imagine voting for a Republican. And yet, I wouldn't want us to be a single-party political system.
The other night I was toying with the idea of what if enough Democrats switched parties and aligned themselves with the Lincoln Project Republicans and pulled that party back away from the hard right?
And I think the Democrat party needs some repair as well. I've been noticing more and more that Dems tend too often to be reactionary and a bit knee jerk in their response to some issues rather than critical in their thinking, tend to take things for granted so don't show up to vote (one of the reasons Hillary lost and CA governor Newsom might be ousted), and vote strictly partly line (a general habit with both parties) without scrutinizing the candidate they vote for.
The whole system is broke and needs mending, the difference between the two parties being that the right has gone off well beyond the deep end.We definitely need a healthy two- (or more) party system. I'm pretty centrist, myself. Call me a constitutionalist or a small-"c" conservative or a civil libertarian, I'll wear any of those labels with pride. I vote straight Dem, for now, even though the far left makes me cringe, because I'll take cringiness over fascism every day.The Never-T****ers are mocked by the right and viewed with suspicion by the left, but IMO they are principled conservatives, whether you like their policies or not, who are committed to the idea of America as a democracy. Some have joined the Democratic party, at least for now, others no longer have party affiliation, but it's my hope that when all of this over, assuming that it ever ends, they will be able to form a new conservative party populated by rational adults.I'm a bit sleep deprived this AM and can't decipher this: Never-T****ersOh wait, got it. Rump-de-dump!
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So what about the Lincoln Project folks? I'd say they are on the right track to forming a more rational conservative group.Personally, I lean left but shy away from the terms "liberal" and "conservative" except when referring to how much maple syrup I like on my pancakes (not-so healthy, liberally) or how much I like preserving nature (I'm all conserving it), and much prefer the terms "doing what makes the most sense" or "making a logical decision"."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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There are a number of groups that have popped up in recent months, founded by various disillusioned Republicans/ former Republicans. LP is one; others (I can't remember all the names) -- Republican Accountability Project -- now called Republican Voters Against T***p, and... Country Over Party? You'll see a lot of them on MSNBC, especially during Nicolle Wallace's hours, but think: Charlie Sykes, Bill Kristol, people writing for The Bulwark (Sykes again, Tim Miller, Mona Charen), David Frum (who, frankly, reads pretty liberal nowadays, given his stances on marriage equality, environmental issues, and gun violence -- maybe he differs in *how* to address some of these things, but just acknowledging the issues is enough to get booted out of CPAC, I think), George Conway ("Mr. Kellyanne"), Miles Taylor, Max Boot, Jennifer Rubin, Evan McMullin.
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curmudgeoness said:There are a number of groups that have popped up in recent months, founded by various disillusioned Republicans/ former Republicans. LP is one; others (I can't remember all the names) -- Republican Accountability Project -- now called Republican Voters Against T***p, and... Country Over Party? You'll see a lot of them on MSNBC, especially during Nicolle Wallace's hours, but think: Charlie Sykes, Bill Kristol, people writing for The Bulwark (Sykes again, Tim Miller, Mona Charen), David Frum (who, frankly, reads pretty liberal nowadays, given his stances on marriage equality, environmental issues, and gun violence -- maybe he differs in *how* to address some of these things, but just acknowledging the issues is enough to get booted out of CPAC, I think), George Conway ("Mr. Kellyanne"), Miles Taylor, Max Boot, Jennifer Rubin, Evan McMullin.
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mickeyrat said:curmudgeoness said:There are a number of groups that have popped up in recent months, founded by various disillusioned Republicans/ former Republicans. LP is one; others (I can't remember all the names) -- Republican Accountability Project -- now called Republican Voters Against T***p, and... Country Over Party? You'll see a lot of them on MSNBC, especially during Nicolle Wallace's hours, but think: Charlie Sykes, Bill Kristol, people writing for The Bulwark (Sykes again, Tim Miller, Mona Charen), David Frum (who, frankly, reads pretty liberal nowadays, given his stances on marriage equality, environmental issues, and gun violence -- maybe he differs in *how* to address some of these things, but just acknowledging the issues is enough to get booted out of CPAC, I think), George Conway ("Mr. Kellyanne"), Miles Taylor, Max Boot, Jennifer Rubin, Evan McMullin.
Michael Steele
How could I forget him! I love Michael Steele! He's funny AF too.
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curmudgeoness said:Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-electionsWhich is why, as he will tell you, Tom Nichols, a conservative and former Republican, advocates for voting Republicans out of office down to, as he says, "the molecular level."The most visible current example of this is the behavior cropping up at school board meetings around the country: anti-mask, anti-vax, QAnon election deniers bring their crazy out in force, disrupt the meetings, threaten board members, until the current board members quit in disgust, and then the QNuts run for school board, and win, because they have rendered the roles unappealing to anyone unwilling to out-crazy them.I'll be voting for Democrats for the forseeable future, until the GOP or its replacement restores some sanity on the the right and cleanses itself of anti-democratic (that's small-"d" democratic) loons.www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:curmudgeoness said:Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-electionsWhich is why, as he will tell you, Tom Nichols, a conservative and former Republican, advocates for voting Republicans out of office down to, as he says, "the molecular level."The most visible current example of this is the behavior cropping up at school board meetings around the country: anti-mask, anti-vax, QAnon election deniers bring their crazy out in force, disrupt the meetings, threaten board members, until the current board members quit in disgust, and then the QNuts run for school board, and win, because they have rendered the roles unappealing to anyone unwilling to out-crazy them.I'll be voting for Democrats for the forseeable future, until the GOP or its replacement restores some sanity on the the right and cleanses itself of anti-democratic (that's small-"d" democratic) loons.
sooo you're running for school board?
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The Juggler said:curmudgeoness said:Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-electionsWhich is why, as he will tell you, Tom Nichols, a conservative and former Republican, advocates for voting Republicans out of office down to, as he says, "the molecular level."The most visible current example of this is the behavior cropping up at school board meetings around the country: anti-mask, anti-vax, QAnon election deniers bring their crazy out in force, disrupt the meetings, threaten board members, until the current board members quit in disgust, and then the QNuts run for school board, and win, because they have rendered the roles unappealing to anyone unwilling to out-crazy them.I'll be voting for Democrats for the forseeable future, until the GOP or its replacement restores some sanity on the the right and cleanses itself of anti-democratic (that's small-"d" democratic) loons.0 -
Out of My Mind and Time said:The Juggler said:curmudgeoness said:Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-electionsWhich is why, as he will tell you, Tom Nichols, a conservative and former Republican, advocates for voting Republicans out of office down to, as he says, "the molecular level."The most visible current example of this is the behavior cropping up at school board meetings around the country: anti-mask, anti-vax, QAnon election deniers bring their crazy out in force, disrupt the meetings, threaten board members, until the current board members quit in disgust, and then the QNuts run for school board, and win, because they have rendered the roles unappealing to anyone unwilling to out-crazy them.I'll be voting for Democrats for the forseeable future, until the GOP or its replacement restores some sanity on the the right and cleanses itself of anti-democratic (that's small-"d" democratic) loons.www.myspace.com0 -
Every single person who opposes fascism and who can, should run for office or support a a pro-democracy candidate’s campaign, from school boards to community boards, city council to state congress. The GOP figured out, when they were a minority party, 70’s early 80’s, how effective controlling state legislatures and governorships is. The DNC still hasn’t figured that one out, focusing more on the US House and Senate races.0
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The Juggler said:Out of My Mind and Time said:The Juggler said:curmudgeoness said:Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-electionsWhich is why, as he will tell you, Tom Nichols, a conservative and former Republican, advocates for voting Republicans out of office down to, as he says, "the molecular level."The most visible current example of this is the behavior cropping up at school board meetings around the country: anti-mask, anti-vax, QAnon election deniers bring their crazy out in force, disrupt the meetings, threaten board members, until the current board members quit in disgust, and then the QNuts run for school board, and win, because they have rendered the roles unappealing to anyone unwilling to out-crazy them.I'll be voting for Democrats for the forseeable future, until the GOP or its replacement restores some sanity on the the right and cleanses itself of anti-democratic (that's small-"d" democratic) loons.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:Out of My Mind and Time said:The Juggler said:curmudgeoness said:Halifax2TheMax said:This is how it happens. Top down, bottom up. Stuck in the middle with some of you. Good luck.
https://www.propublica.org/article/heeding-steve-bannons-call-election-deniers-organize-to-seize-control-of-the-gop-and-reshape-americas-electionsWhich is why, as he will tell you, Tom Nichols, a conservative and former Republican, advocates for voting Republicans out of office down to, as he says, "the molecular level."The most visible current example of this is the behavior cropping up at school board meetings around the country: anti-mask, anti-vax, QAnon election deniers bring their crazy out in force, disrupt the meetings, threaten board members, until the current board members quit in disgust, and then the QNuts run for school board, and win, because they have rendered the roles unappealing to anyone unwilling to out-crazy them.I'll be voting for Democrats for the forseeable future, until the GOP or its replacement restores some sanity on the the right and cleanses itself of anti-democratic (that's small-"d" democratic) loons.www.myspace.com0 -
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