Jan 6 Select Committee

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

lindamarie73 said:

mrussel1 said:

myoung321 said:

Just wait until Mueller testifies!..... oh wait...that was last seasons "show" that meant nothing in the end....just as this one will mean nothing when it's over.

So you're cool with riots, violence and coups.  Good to know.  

Ask that farce of a organization BLM how they feel about Riots, Violence, and coups….oops, that’s right, one can’t ….

That's a defense for them? Talking about BLM?  Shockingly no one has won an acquittal with that argument.  

Those indictments are incoming.

brianlux

I don't think anyone here supports the notion of engaging in violence, riots or coups.  If you do, think twice about how you talk about it, then think twice more about where that could take you.  Otherwise, let's not be so cavalier about talking about things nobody in their right mind wants to be associated with.

Parksy

I just heard that Pat Cippolone fellow say that Mike Pence should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom award for his courage on Jan 6th. 

This reminds me of Saving Private Ryan when Upham finally grows the stones to shoot the Nazi in the end.  OK, sure, good on him.. but I mean, are we supposed to conveniently forget that he was a coward throughout the rest of the ordeal.. and could have saved lives beforehand had he shown said courage? 

None of what happened Jan 6th should have come as a surprise to anyone.  None of it.  If Pence had a shred of decency, he would have stepped up and spoke out well before January 6th.  Instead, he kissed ass with Trump and played politics.  He deserves no medal... none at all. If Trump has been one thing in his entire life... it's consistent.  He has consistently been a huge doosh canoe he whole life. 

dankind

Parksy said:

I just heard that Pat Cippolone fellow say that Mike Pence should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom award for his courage on Jan 6th. 

This reminds me of Saving Private Ryan when Upham finally grows the stones to shoot the Nazi in the end.  OK, sure, good on him.. but I mean, are we supposed to conveniently forget that he was a coward throughout the rest of the ordeal.. and could have saved lives beforehand had he shown said courage? 

None of what happened Jan 6th should have come as a surprise to anyone.  None of it.  If Pence had a shred of decency, he would have stepped up and spoke out well before January 6th.  Instead, he kissed ass with Trump and played politics.  He deserves no medal... none at all. If Trump has been one thing in his entire life... it's consistent.  He has consistently been a huge doosh canoe he whole life. 

Agree with everything here.

But ...

... whoa! You were able to sit through a jingoistic propaganda piece like Saving Private Ryan enough times to know character names other than the title character? I saw it in the cinema when it came out and almost left halfway through it.

(For instance, I have no idea what scene you're talking about.)

mrussel1

dankind said:

Parksy said:

I just heard that Pat Cippolone fellow say that Mike Pence should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom award for his courage on Jan 6th. 

This reminds me of Saving Private Ryan when Upham finally grows the stones to shoot the Nazi in the end.  OK, sure, good on him.. but I mean, are we supposed to conveniently forget that he was a coward throughout the rest of the ordeal.. and could have saved lives beforehand had he shown said courage? 

None of what happened Jan 6th should have come as a surprise to anyone.  None of it.  If Pence had a shred of decency, he would have stepped up and spoke out well before January 6th.  Instead, he kissed ass with Trump and played politics.  He deserves no medal... none at all. If Trump has been one thing in his entire life... it's consistent.  He has consistently been a huge doosh canoe he whole life. 

Agree with everything here.

But ...

... whoa! You were able to sit through a jingoistic propaganda piece like Saving Private Ryan enough times to know character names other than the title character? I saw it in the cinema when it came out and almost left halfway through it.

(For instance, I have no idea what scene you're talking about.)

Oh right,  it's a bunch of WMAs saving the world from Nazis.  What a bunch of entitled creeps those soldiers were.  

HughFreakingDillon

dankind said:

Parksy said:

I just heard that Pat Cippolone fellow say that Mike Pence should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom award for his courage on Jan 6th. 

This reminds me of Saving Private Ryan when Upham finally grows the stones to shoot the Nazi in the end.  OK, sure, good on him.. but I mean, are we supposed to conveniently forget that he was a coward throughout the rest of the ordeal.. and could have saved lives beforehand had he shown said courage? 

None of what happened Jan 6th should have come as a surprise to anyone.  None of it.  If Pence had a shred of decency, he would have stepped up and spoke out well before January 6th.  Instead, he kissed ass with Trump and played politics.  He deserves no medal... none at all. If Trump has been one thing in his entire life... it's consistent.  He has consistently been a huge doosh canoe he whole life. 

Agree with everything here.

But ...

... whoa! You were able to sit through a jingoistic propaganda piece like Saving Private Ryan enough times to know character names other than the title character? I saw it in the cinema when it came out and almost left halfway through it.

(For instance, I have no idea what scene you're talking about.)

does hating anything and everything mainstream just come naturally, or is it a painful endeavour? 

Parksy

I very, very much enjoy movies .......   but understand that they are movies.  

Cropduster-80

dankind said:

Parksy said:

I just heard that Pat Cippolone fellow say that Mike Pence should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom award for his courage on Jan 6th. 

This reminds me of Saving Private Ryan when Upham finally grows the stones to shoot the Nazi in the end.  OK, sure, good on him.. but I mean, are we supposed to conveniently forget that he was a coward throughout the rest of the ordeal.. and could have saved lives beforehand had he shown said courage? 

None of what happened Jan 6th should have come as a surprise to anyone.  None of it.  If Pence had a shred of decency, he would have stepped up and spoke out well before January 6th.  Instead, he kissed ass with Trump and played politics.  He deserves no medal... none at all. If Trump has been one thing in his entire life... it's consistent.  He has consistently been a huge doosh canoe he whole life. 

Agree with everything here.

But ...

... whoa! You were able to sit through a jingoistic propaganda piece like Saving Private Ryan enough times to know character names other than the title character? I saw it in the cinema when it came out and almost left halfway through it.

(For instance, I have no idea what scene you're talking about.)

All I remember was the vets having PTSD and flashbacks, after seeing it.  It was pretty traumatic for a lot from what I remember.  The beach landing scene in particular 

this was pre trigger warnings and all that woke stuff. Good example of why they exist 

mrussel1

Cropduster-80 said:

dankind said:

Parksy said:

I just heard that Pat Cippolone fellow say that Mike Pence should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom award for his courage on Jan 6th. 

This reminds me of Saving Private Ryan when Upham finally grows the stones to shoot the Nazi in the end.  OK, sure, good on him.. but I mean, are we supposed to conveniently forget that he was a coward throughout the rest of the ordeal.. and could have saved lives beforehand had he shown said courage? 

None of what happened Jan 6th should have come as a surprise to anyone.  None of it.  If Pence had a shred of decency, he would have stepped up and spoke out well before January 6th.  Instead, he kissed ass with Trump and played politics.  He deserves no medal... none at all. If Trump has been one thing in his entire life... it's consistent.  He has consistently been a huge doosh canoe he whole life. 

Agree with everything here.

But ...

... whoa! You were able to sit through a jingoistic propaganda piece like Saving Private Ryan enough times to know character names other than the title character? I saw it in the cinema when it came out and almost left halfway through it.

(For instance, I have no idea what scene you're talking about.)

All I remember was the vets having PTSD and flashbacks, after seeing it.  It was pretty traumatic for a lot from what I remember.  The landing scene in particular 

this was pre trigger warnings and all that woke stuff. Good example of why they exist 

For sure, some struggled.  

When I was in college,  majored in history,  I did a number of interviews with WW2 vets as part of a large project,  an effort to capture first hand soldier experiences to memorialize for the Florida Historical Society.  And each vet was so different in not only how they remember events,  but also in the way they dealt with them over the years.  My Uncle George was an island hopper who was declared KIA for a month after he disappeared on an island.  He struggled with interviewing and dealing with the memories.  My Uncle Mike,  who was captured at the Battle of the Bulge,  was jovial and excited to tell his story.  

They were both heroes,  as all of the vets were.  And no amount of fucked up criticism will change what they sacrificed and were willing to give.  

Cropduster-80

mrussel1 said:

Cropduster-80 said:

dankind said:

Parksy said:

I just heard that Pat Cippolone fellow say that Mike Pence should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom award for his courage on Jan 6th. 

This reminds me of Saving Private Ryan when Upham finally grows the stones to shoot the Nazi in the end.  OK, sure, good on him.. but I mean, are we supposed to conveniently forget that he was a coward throughout the rest of the ordeal.. and could have saved lives beforehand had he shown said courage? 

None of what happened Jan 6th should have come as a surprise to anyone.  None of it.  If Pence had a shred of decency, he would have stepped up and spoke out well before January 6th.  Instead, he kissed ass with Trump and played politics.  He deserves no medal... none at all. If Trump has been one thing in his entire life... it's consistent.  He has consistently been a huge doosh canoe he whole life. 

Agree with everything here.

But ...

... whoa! You were able to sit through a jingoistic propaganda piece like Saving Private Ryan enough times to know character names other than the title character? I saw it in the cinema when it came out and almost left halfway through it.

(For instance, I have no idea what scene you're talking about.)

All I remember was the vets having PTSD and flashbacks, after seeing it.  It was pretty traumatic for a lot from what I remember.  The landing scene in particular 

this was pre trigger warnings and all that woke stuff. Good example of why they exist 

For sure, some struggled.  

When I was in college,  majored in history,  I did a number of interviews with WW2 vets as part of a large project,  an effort to capture first hand soldier experiences to memorialize for the Florida Historical Society.  And each vet was so different in not only how they remember events,  but also in the way they dealt with them over the years.  My Uncle George was an island hopper who was declared KIA for a month after he disappeared on an island.  He struggled with interviewing and dealing with the memories.  My Uncle Mike,  who was captured at the Battle of the Bulge,  was jovial and excited to tell his story.  

They were both heroes,  as all of the vets were.  And no amount of fucked up criticism will change what they sacrificed and were willing to give.  

I had one grandfather who was in the marines pre Pearl Harbour and one who tried to sign up for the navy the day after.  The line was so long they started sending people to the coast guard line.

one was at Guadalcanal and the other spent the war in Hawaii. Both served honourably so doesn’t matter to me what they did 

mrussel1

Cropduster-80 said:

mrussel1 said:

Cropduster-80 said:

dankind said:

Parksy said:

I just heard that Pat Cippolone fellow say that Mike Pence should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom award for his courage on Jan 6th. 

This reminds me of Saving Private Ryan when Upham finally grows the stones to shoot the Nazi in the end.  OK, sure, good on him.. but I mean, are we supposed to conveniently forget that he was a coward throughout the rest of the ordeal.. and could have saved lives beforehand had he shown said courage? 

None of what happened Jan 6th should have come as a surprise to anyone.  None of it.  If Pence had a shred of decency, he would have stepped up and spoke out well before January 6th.  Instead, he kissed ass with Trump and played politics.  He deserves no medal... none at all. If Trump has been one thing in his entire life... it's consistent.  He has consistently been a huge doosh canoe he whole life. 

Agree with everything here.

But ...

... whoa! You were able to sit through a jingoistic propaganda piece like Saving Private Ryan enough times to know character names other than the title character? I saw it in the cinema when it came out and almost left halfway through it.

(For instance, I have no idea what scene you're talking about.)

All I remember was the vets having PTSD and flashbacks, after seeing it.  It was pretty traumatic for a lot from what I remember.  The landing scene in particular 

this was pre trigger warnings and all that woke stuff. Good example of why they exist 

For sure, some struggled.  

When I was in college,  majored in history,  I did a number of interviews with WW2 vets as part of a large project,  an effort to capture first hand soldier experiences to memorialize for the Florida Historical Society.  And each vet was so different in not only how they remember events,  but also in the way they dealt with them over the years.  My Uncle George was an island hopper who was declared KIA for a month after he disappeared on an island.  He struggled with interviewing and dealing with the memories.  My Uncle Mike,  who was captured at the Battle of the Bulge,  was jovial and excited to tell his story.  

They were both heroes,  as all of the vets were.  And no amount of fucked up criticism will change what they sacrificed and were willing to give.  

I had one grandfather who was in the marines pre Pearl Harbour and one who tried to sign up for the navy the day after.  The line was so long they started sending people to the coast guard line.

one was at Guadalcanal and the other spent the war in Hawaii. Both served honourably so doesn’t matter to me what they did 

My uncle was at Guadalcanal too. I can't imagine the horror.  The two brothers both tried to sign up on the same day but the younger one was denied. They didn't let him join until 43. They didn't want brothers at the start of the war,  but changed that position. 

Bentleyspop

Back on topic...

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1546946214171639809?t=KEzTXCTu8HxwuTzOr7VyQw&s=19

Cropduster-80

That witness should have answered the phone.

without that, it’s an unanswered call.  Could mean anything 

Cropduster-80

You would think though there is enough probable cause a crime is being committed with witness tampering they could get taps on these phones of key witnesses 

Lerxst1992

I think an attempt at witness tampering is a crime. Devils in the details, do they currently talk regularly? Do they have current business together?

gimmesometruth27

Parksy said:

I just heard that Pat Cippolone fellow say that Mike Pence should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom award for his courage on Jan 6th. 

This reminds me of Saving Private Ryan when Upham finally grows the stones to shoot the Nazi in the end.  OK, sure, good on him.. but I mean, are we supposed to conveniently forget that he was a coward throughout the rest of the ordeal.. and could have saved lives beforehand had he shown said courage? 

None of what happened Jan 6th should have come as a surprise to anyone.  None of it.  If Pence had a shred of decency, he would have stepped up and spoke out well before January 6th.  Instead, he kissed ass with Trump and played politics.  He deserves no medal... none at all. If Trump has been one thing in his entire life... it's consistent.  He has consistently been a huge doosh canoe he whole life. 

pence deserves no medal. all he did was do his job on that one day. why should we give someone a medal for doing what they are supposed to do as defined by the constitution of the us?

give the man a laurel, and hearty handshake and say thank you for your courage in doing your job. 

gimmesometruth27

Lerxst1992 said:

I think an attempt at witness tampering is a crime. Devils in the details, do they currently talk regularly? Do they have current business together?

i think so too.

intent is the crux of the issue.

trump was taught how to be a mob boss by that cohen guy. but trump is either so bad at it, or his ego made him try to get involved. a mob boss never does things himself. he gives orders for other people to give the orders. there are buffers so the boss has plausible deniability. trump could not let the buffers do anything, so he tried to talk to the witness himself.

joseph33

What is the January 6th committee?  

Lerxst1992

can we legitimately say trumps own campaign manager called him a murderer?


edit, https://www.nbcboston.com/news/national-international/former-campaign-manager-faults-trump-in-jan-6-death/2770401/

Halifax2TheMax

Sidney Poutwell sure seems to have aged quite a bit. Seems she’s seen a few ghosts. “Disdain for the President.”