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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,172
    static111 said:
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    Did anyone see that under oath in the Dominion case Hannity said he never believed a word of his own reporting on rigged voting machines?
    Does that surprise you?
    Lol that he admitted it absolutely.  Nobody could prove otherwise.  He must have been real scared of losing all that money.
    Under oath, with the potential of perjury, and potentially spending 10 days in jail? With the “other?” Damn right he was scat. “Looking mighty fine in those jeans, boy!”
    If I was a scum bag and I was under oath, I would just lie and say yes absolutely I believed it. Seriously I would lie all day if nothing could be proved. I don't think they can pry into your mind to find out what you believe yet.  Someone must have had him on tape talking shit about it, or he isn't as big of a scum bag as we think he is and actually has some respect for the court system.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 26,544
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Did anyone see that under oath in the Dominion case Hannity said he never believed a word of his own reporting on rigged voting machines?
    Does that surprise you?
    Lol that he admitted it absolutely.  Nobody could prove otherwise.  He must have been real scared of losing all that money.
    Under oath, with the potential of perjury, and potentially spending 10 days in jail? With the “other?” Damn right he was scat. “Looking mighty fine in those jeans, boy!”
    If I was a scum bag and I was under oath, I would just lie and say yes absolutely I believed it. Seriously I would lie all day if nothing could be proved. I don't think they can pry into your mind to find out what you believe yet.  Someone must have had him on tape talking shit about it, or he isn't as big of a scum bag as we think he is and actually has some respect for the court system.
    The problem is that Hannity may have written an email,  text,  said something else that was already picked up in discovery.  So lying gets very dirty dicey. 
  • Buh, buh, buh Hillary’s smashed, acid washed, microwaved, boiled, shredded, fed to the crocodiles hard drive!

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  • Obstruction of justice? Aiding and abetting an insurrection? You don’t say!
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,431
    good.
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  • Those pesky, pesky facts. Pesky facts.

    Executive Summary, 134 Pages: 762 End Notes
    Chapter 1, The Big Lie, 68 Pages: 317 End Notes
    Chapter 2, I Just Want to Find 11,780 Votes, 37 Pages: 378 End Notes

    End Notes are citations to sources, whether witness testimony, public or obtained documents, sourced reporting, or witness/perpetrator quotations 

    In other words, facts. Those pesky, pesky facts.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,674
    Chapter 3, Fake Electors and the President of the Senate Strategy, 31 Pages: 141 End Notes
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 26,288
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/02/politics/january-6-text-messages/index.html
    They did really think it was a great career move to work for Trumpolinni? 🤣🤣🤣 Avocado rocks 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 26,288
    Wonder if any of the MAGA posters will be celebrating the anniversary of the insurrection? 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,431
    Wonder if any of the MAGA posters will be celebrating the anniversary of the insurrection? 
    you know people will. maybe not any of the posters here, but you know some people will celebrate it. some may even mourn that babbitt lady as well.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,674
    Me beginning to think the McCarthy gavel drama is a contrived effort to take POOTWH’s role in 1/6 off the front pages. Just read Bill DISbarred’s testimony on his interactions with POOTWH and his eventual resignation. “Only the best people, folks, only the best people.”
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,674
    This is why the dems shouldn’t strike a deal to bail them out or trust them.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,674
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 26,544
    edited January 7
    This is why the dems shouldn’t strike a deal to bail them out or trust them.

    We’ll see how dysfunctional it gets.  He will definitely be the weakest speaker in many generations.  The minority owns him.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 27,377
    gift article



     What the Jan. 6 probe found out about social media, but didn’t report
    By Cat Zakrzewski, Cristiano Lima and Drew Harwell
    January 17, 2023 at 6:00 ET
    The Jan. 6 committee spent months gathering stunning new details on how social media companies failed to address the online extremism and calls for violence that preceded the Capitol riot.
    The evidence they collected was written up in a 122-page memo that was circulated among the committee, according to a draft viewed by The Washington Post. But in the end, committee leaders declined to delve into those topics in detail in their final report, reluctant to dig into the roots of domestic extremism taking hold in the Republican Party beyond former president Donald Trump and concerned about the risks of a public battle with powerful tech companies, according to three people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the panel’s sensitive deliberations.
    Congressional investigators found evidence that tech platforms — especially Twitter — failed to heed their own employees’ warnings about violent rhetoric on their platforms and bent their rules to avoid penalizing conservatives, particularly then-president Trump, out of fear of reprisals. The draft report details how most platforms did not take “dramatic” steps to rein in extremist content until after the attack on the Capitol, despite clear red flags across the internet.
    “The sum of this is that alt-tech, fringe, and mainstream platforms were exploited in tandem by right-wing activists to bring American democracy to the brink of ruin,” the staffers wrote in their memo. “These platforms enabled the mobilization of extremists on smaller sites and whipped up conservative grievance on larger, more mainstream ones.”

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,674
    Chapter 4: Just Call It Corrupt and Leave the Rest to Me, 30 Pages; 329 End Notes

    Chapter 5: A Coup In Search of a Legal Theory, 42 pages; 329 End Notes
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,431
    Chapter 4: Just Call It Corrupt and Leave the Rest to Me, 30 Pages; 329 End Notes

    Chapter 5: A Coup In Search of a Legal Theory, 42 pages; 329 End Notes
    how is that "leave the rest to me" part working out?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,674
    So much for there not being any weapons at the Capitol. Sure, a "peaceful tourist visit." Sure. And somebody on here wants to talk about respecting the police? Sure. Oh, and once again, a whole lot of responsibility going on, as it relates to possession of firearms. What a country. Page(s) 640-642.

    The Secret Service set up magnetometers to screen for weapons and other contraband, but many rally-goers chose to avoid the screening altogether.

    At 6:29 a.m., Stewart Rhodes, the leader of the Oath Keepers, reminded his group’s members that DC prohibited blades over “3 inches” and encouraged them to “[k]eep [the knives] low profile.”9 Others were thinking along the same lines. At 7:25 a.m., the National Park Service reported that a significant number of attendees ditched their bags in trees, rather than have them inspected.10 Cassidy Hutchinson told the Select Committee she heard that thousands of people refused to walk through magnetometers to enter the Ellipse because they did not want to be screened for weapons.11 According to Hutchinson, the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations whose responsibilities included security-related issues, Tony Ornato, told the President that the onlookers “don’t want to come in right now. They—they have weapons that they don’t want confiscated by the Secret Service.”12 When he arrived at the Ellipse that morning, President Trump angrily said: “I don’t [fucking] care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me. They can march to the Capitol from here.”13

    Approximately 28,000 rally-goers did pass through the magnetometers. The Secret Service confiscated a significant number of prohibited items from these people, including: 269 knives or blades, 242 cannisters of pepper spray, 18 brass knuckles, 18 tasers, 6 pieces of body armor, 3 gas masks, 30 batons or blunt instruments, and 17 miscellaneous items like scissors, needles, or screwdrivers.14

    At 8:07 a.m., Secret Service countersurveillance agents reported that “members of the crowd are wearing ballistic helmets, body armor and carrying radio equipment and military grade backpacks.”15 By 9:45 a.m., the Secret Service noted people openly carrying pepper spray as they strolled the streets.16

    President Trump’s mob was itching for a fight. National Park Service officers arrested a man who had entered the restricted area around the Washington Monument. Immediately, about 100 people started forming a circle around the officer, “threaten[ing] law enforcement,” as the officer later recounted.17 The officer retreated into the Washington Monument with the man in custody.18 The crowd responded angrily, punching the Monument’s glass windows and continuing to threaten officers.19 Law enforcement around the Washington Monument felt so unsafe that they “locked themselves in a security box by the mall.”20 Rioters nevertheless “scaled the sides of the security box and climbed on top of the structure.”21 It was a harbinger of things to come.

    MPD monitored and responded to a stream of threats that morning. Three men in fatigues from Broward County, Florida brandished AR-15s in front of MPD officers on 14th Street and Independence Avenue.22 MPD advised over the radio that one individual was possibly armed with a “Glock” at Fourteenth Street and Constitution Avenue, and another was possibly armed with a “rifle” at Fifteenth Street and Constitution Avenue around 11:23 a.m.23 The National Park Service detained an individual with a rifle between 12:00 and 1:00 p.m.24

    Far-right extremists brought guns into Washington or the surrounding area. Christopher Kuehne, a member of the Proud Boys, met up with friends on January 5th to discuss their plans for the following day. One person in attendance said he did not travel to Washington just to “march around” and asked, “do we have patriots here willing to take it by force?”25 Kuehne told them he had guns, and he was ready to go.26 During the attack, Kuehne helped prop open Capitol blast doors as besieged law enforcement retreated inside.27 Guy Reffitt, a Three Percenter from Texas, attended the rally at the Ellipse, and then carried a loaded firearm onto Capitol grounds.28 Jerod Thomas Bargar lost his gun—that he’d carried from the Ellipse in a ‘We the People’ holster29—while scuffling with police on the west side of the Capitol around 2:30 p.m.30 Bargar wanted to be armed, he said, when he went into the “belly of the beast.”31

    Mark Andre Mazza drove from Indiana, bringing a Taurus revolver, a .45-caliber weapon that he loaded with both shotgun and hollow-point rounds.32 After assaulting a police officer, he lost the weapon,33 dropping it or losing it on the steps of the lower West Plaza leading to the Capitol’s West Front Terrace.34 The Select Committee reviewed Mazza’s social media accounts before they were taken down, finding that he shared multiple conspiracy theories, including QAnon material.35 Mazza later indicated that he intended to target House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, telling authorities that “you’d be here for another reason” if he had found the Speaker inside the Capitol.36

    Lonnie Leroy Coffman from Falkville, Alabama, parked by the Capitol building before walking nearly 2 miles to the Ellipse to hear the President speak.37 In his car, he had stocked a handgun, a rifle, a shotgun, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, large-capacity ammunition-feeding devices, machetes, camouflage smoke devices, a bow and arrow, and 11 Mason jars filled with gasoline and styrofoam, as well as rags and a lighter (tools needed to make Molotov cocktails).38 Police found two more handguns on Coffman when he was arrested later that day.39 Many in attendance were aware of Washington’s prohibition on carrying a concealed weapon and made plans accordingly. The Oath Keepers left their guns stowed away in their cars or across State lines for easy access should they be needed.40 The group staged a “quick reaction force” across the river in Virginia, amassing an arsenal to come to DC “by land” or “by sea,” as Florida State-chapter lead—and defendant convicted of seditious conspiracy—Kelly Meggs said.41 Oath Keeper Jason Dolan testified at the seditious conspiracy trial that the “quick reaction force [was] ready to go get our firearms in order to stop the election from being certified within Congress.”42 Dolan further testified that the Oath Keepers came to Washington, DC “to stop the certification of the election. . . . [b]y any means necessary. That’s why we brought our firearms.”43

    Garret Miller—a January 6th defendant who traveled from Richardson, Texas—posted on Facebook that “he was bringing guns with him but ‘might just keep 1 hidden one and store the rest in Virginia’” after learning about the DC law.44 He also threatened to assassinate Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and predicted a “civil war could start.”45 Many members of the crowd decided against bringing firearms into the nation’s capital, and armed themselves in other ways. Alex Kirk Harkrider from Carthage, Texas, and his co-defendant, Ryan Nichols, left guns in a parked car just outside the district before attending the rally.46 Harkrider still brought a tomahawk axe.47 During the march to the Capitol, he yelled “[c]ut their fucking heads off!”48 One rioter told the Select Committee he saw another carrying a “pitchfork.”49


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,674
    Rember Gym Jordan's demand that the 1/6 Committee preserve all its files? Will anyone ask his thoughts on the voluminous record available? End Notes for the previous post, End notes 9 through 49:

    9.Trial Transcript at 4542 and Trial Exhibit No. 6370, United States v. Rhodes et al., No. 1:22- cr-15 (D.D.C. Oct. 20, 2022).

    10. Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (Secret Service Production), CTRL0000882478, p. 1 (event summary of January 6th rally).

    11. See, e.g., Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, Transcribed Interview of Cassidy Hutchinson, (Feb. 23, 2022), pp. 87–88; Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, Continued Interview of Cassidy Hutchinson, (June 20, 2022), pp. 12–13.

    12. Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, Continued Interview of Cassidy Hutchinson, (June 20, 2022), pp. 12–13.

    13. Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, Continued Interview of Cassidy Hutchinson, (June 20, 2022), pp. 11–12.

    14. Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (Secret Service Production), CTRL0000086772, (Coordinated Response to a Request for Information from the Select Committee, Nov. 18, 2021).

    15. Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (Secret Service Production), CTRL0000882478 (event summary of January 6th rally).

    16. Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (Secret Service Production), CTRL0000882478 (event summary of January 6th rally).

    17. Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (Department of Interior Production), DOI_46003146_00005053, (general arrest report at the Washington Monument on the morning of January 6th).

    18. Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (Department of Interior Production), DOI_46003146_00005053, (general arrest report at the Washington Monument on the morning of January 6th).

    19. Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (Department of Interior Production), DOI_46003146_00005053, (general arrest report at the Washington Monument on the morning of January 6th).

    20. Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, Informal Interview of National Parks Service Staff, (Oct. 27–28, 2021), p. 6.

    21. Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, Informal Interview of National Parks Service Staff, (Oct. 27–28, 2021), p. 6.

    22. Tom Jackman, Rachel Weiner, and Spencer S. Hsu, “Evidence of Firearms in Jan. 6 Crowd Grows as Arrests and Trials Mount,” Washington Post, (July 8, 2022), available at https:// www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/08/jan6-defendants-guns/.

    23. Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (Secret Service Production), CTRL0000882478 (event summary of Jan 6 rally).

    24. Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (District of Columbia Production), MPD 73–78 (District of Columbia, Metropolitan Police Department, Transcript of Radio Calls, January 6, 2021); Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (District of Columbia Production), CTRL0000070375, at 3:40 (District of Columbia, Metropolitan Police Department, audio file of radio traffic from Jan. 6, 2021, from 12:00–13:00).

    25. Statement of Offense at 4, United States v. Colon, No. 1:21-cr-160, (D.D.C. Apr. 27, 2022), ECF 143.

    26. Statement of Offense at 4, United States v. Colon, No. 1:21-cr-160, (D.D.C. Apr. 27, 2022), ECF 143.

    27. Affidavit in Support of Criminal Complaint and Arrest Warrant at 21–23, United States v. Kuehne, No. 1:21-cr-160, (D.D.C. Feb. 10, 2021), available at https://www.justice.gov/usaodc/case-multi-defendant/file/1366446/download.

    28. See Spencer S. Hsu and Tom Jackman, “First Jan. 6 Defendant Convicted at Trial Receives Longest Sentence of 7 Years,” Washington Post, (Aug. 1, 2022), available at https:// www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/01/reffitt-sentence-jan6/.

    29. Statement of Facts at 3, 5, United States v. Bargar, No. 1:22-mj-169, (D.D.C. July 29, 2022), ECF No. 1-1. See Documents on file with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, (District of Columbia Production, Axon Body 3 X6039BLAL, at 14:30:03 (MPD body camera footage).

    30. Statement of Facts at 5, United States v. Bargar, No. 1:22-mj-169, (D.D.C. July 29, 2022), ECF No. 1-1.

    31. Statement of Facts at 5, United States v. Bargar, No. 1:22-mj-169, (D.D.C. July 29, 2022), ECF No. 1-1.

    32. Statement of Offense at 3, United States v. Mazza, No. 1:21-cr-736, (D.D.C. June 17, 2022), ECF No. 25.

    33. Statement of Offense at 3-4, United States v. Mazza, No. 1:21-cr-736, (D.D.C. June 17, 2022), ECF No. 25; Statement of Facts at 2, United States v. Mazza, No. 1:21-cr-736, (D.D.C. Nov. 12, 2021), ECF No. 1-1.

    34. Government’s Sentencing Memorandum at 9–10, United States v. Mazza, No. 1:21-cr-736 (D.D.C. Sept. 23, 2022), ECF No. 30.

    35. For example, on November 13, 2020, Mazza (@MarkNunzios64) tweeted at President Trump: “Can you unseal obama’s birth certificate and college transcripts?” On Facebook, Mazza shared a Q “drop” titled “The Armor of God,” a 9/11 Truther video, and multiple posts dedicated to lies about the 2020 Presidential election. Screenshots on file with the Select Committee.

    36. Hannah Rabinowitz and Holmes Lybrand, “Armed US Capitol Rioter Tells Investigators if He Had Found Pelosi, ‘You’d be Here for Another Reason,’” CNN, (Nov. 23, 2021), available at https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/22/politics/loaded-firearm-january-6-charged-mark-mazza/ index.html.

    37. Government’s Memorandum in Aid of Sentencing at 3, United States v. Coffman, No. 1:21- cr-4, (Mar. 2, 2022), ECF 28.

    38. Government’s Memorandum in Aid of Sentencing at 3, United States v. Coffman, No. 1:21- cr-4, (Mar. 2, 2022), ECF 28.

    39. Government’s Memorandum in Aid of Sentencing at 4, United States v. Coffman, No. 1:21- cr-4, (Mar. 2, 2022), ECF 28.

    40. Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, Deposition of Jeffrey Lawrence Morelock, (Jan. 26, 2022), p. 81.

    41. Trial Exhibit 1.S.159.524, United States v. Rhodes et al., No. 1:22-cr-15, (D.D.C Oct. 4, 2022); Trial Transcript at 10502-08, United States v. Rhodes et al., No. 1:22-cr-15 (D.D.C. Nov. 29, 2022)

    42. Trial Transcript at 4109, United States v. Rhodes et al., No. 1:22-cr-15, (D.D.C. Oct. 18, 2022).

    43. Trial Transcript at 4106-08, United States v. Rhodes et al., No. 1:22-cr-15 (D.D.C. Oct. 18, 2022)

    44. Government’s Opposition to Defendant’s Motion to Revoke Magistrate Judge’s Detention Order at 4, United States v. Miller, No. 1:21-cr-119, (D.D.C. Mar. 29, 2021), ECF No. 16.

    45. Statement of Facts at 2, 9, United States v. Miller, No. 1:21-cr-119 (D.D.C. Jan. 19, 2021), ECF No. 1-1.

    46. Government’s Opposition to Defendant’s Motion to Modify Release Conditions at 3, United States v. Harkrider, No. 1:21-cr-117, (D.D.C. July 8, 2021), ECF No. 40.

    47. Government’s Opposition to Defendant’s Motion to Modify Release Conditions at 3, United States v. Harkrider, No. 1:21-cr-117, (D.D.C. July 8, 2021), ECF No. 40.

    48. Dylan Stableford, “New Video Shows Alleged Jan. 6 Capitol Rioters Threatening Pence,” Yahoo! News (Feb. 7, 2022), available at https://news.yahoo.com/new-video-jan-6-capitolriot-pence-threat-drag-through-streets-195249884.html.

    49. Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, Transcribed Interview of Eric Barber, (Mar. 16, 2022), p. 41.
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    A real tough guy, that Mikey Flynn Baby (page 648):

    While Wren originally expected Jones, Roger Stone, and retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn to march to the Capitol, Stone did not attend the Ellipse rally and so he was not present to accompany Jones on the march as planned.113 Additionally, while President Trump was delivering his speech, Wren asked Flynn if he was going to march with Jones. Flynn responded, “Hell, no. It’s freezing.”114
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