Jan 6 Select Committee

Vitalogensia

Agreed that I'm way past seeing Trump have to face any consequences, for anything.  As I see it, Trump's chances might get hurt for 2024 (if he was even serious about running).  But the non-sycophants that voted for Trump got what they wanted re: Roe v. Wade, so I don't think they'll care to vote for Trump again, they'll just go for DeSantis.  

OnWis97

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

Yeah I’m well past hoping anything comes out of anything that actually effects trump. 

I think he is getting damaged every day.  And his reaction to the hearings shows it.  The poll numbers of independents continue to slide too.  In short, I think it's working.  

the electorate has a short term memory. 2024 is a lifetime away. 

And gas prices are high.

cincybearcat

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

Yeah I’m well past hoping anything comes out of anything that actually effects trump. 

I think he is getting damaged every day.  And his reaction to the hearings shows it.  The poll numbers of independents continue to slide too.  In short, I think it's working.  

When you replace dumb trump with a younger, slightly smarter version ... I don't think it matters.  Cause the mentality hasn't changed.  BUt maybe I'm wrong...hope you are right.

mrussel1

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

Yeah I’m well past hoping anything comes out of anything that actually effects trump. 

I think he is getting damaged every day.  And his reaction to the hearings shows it.  The poll numbers of independents continue to slide too.  In short, I think it's working.  

When you replace dumb trump with a younger, slightly smarter version ... I don't think it matters.  Cause the mentality hasn't changed.  BUt maybe I'm wrong...hope you are right.

I don't think DeSantis is as obviously corrupt as Trump.  I may hate his policies, but corruption is a different deal altogether. 

gimmesometruth27

my bet is it is either pence or mark meadows.

although could be mo brooks too. 

OnWis97

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

Yeah I’m well past hoping anything comes out of anything that actually effects trump. 

I think he is getting damaged every day.  And his reaction to the hearings shows it.  The poll numbers of independents continue to slide too.  In short, I think it's working.  

When you replace dumb trump with a younger, slightly smarter version ... I don't think it matters.  Cause the mentality hasn't changed.  BUt maybe I'm wrong...hope you are right.

I don't think DeSantis is as obviously corrupt as Trump.  I may hate his policies, but corruption is a different deal altogether. 

I guess it depends on the definition of corrupt. In terms of things like using the office to make money with no regard to law? Maybe not.

Is shaking down "woke" corporations (see Disney) and using the office to bully anyone that shows disloyalty a form of corruption? Either way, I don't see him as simply having disagreeable issues.

mrussel1

OnWis97 said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

Yeah I’m well past hoping anything comes out of anything that actually effects trump. 

I think he is getting damaged every day.  And his reaction to the hearings shows it.  The poll numbers of independents continue to slide too.  In short, I think it's working.  

When you replace dumb trump with a younger, slightly smarter version ... I don't think it matters.  Cause the mentality hasn't changed.  BUt maybe I'm wrong...hope you are right.

I don't think DeSantis is as obviously corrupt as Trump.  I may hate his policies, but corruption is a different deal altogether. 

I guess it depends on the definition of corrupt. In terms of things like using the office to make money with no regard to law? Maybe not.

Is shaking down "woke" corporations (see Disney) and using the office to bully anyone that shows disloyalty a form of corruption? Either way, I don't see him as simply having disagreeable issues.

Yes, I mean Trumps corrupt money making schemes.  The Disney and Tampa Bay Rays issues are using the office to further your political ambitions.  It's not corrupt in the same way, but yeah I could see how it could be considered corrupt. 

Halifax2TheMax

Cassidy Hutchison, former aide to Mike Field of Weeds Meadows will be testifying today and if you’ve watched her previous testimony, you’d think she’s a deer in headlights, can’t believe she’s in the position she’s in and that she’s thinking her whole life is about to be ruined and that she doesn’t want to spend any amount of time in prison. She was close to Weeds and POOTWH before, during and after 1/6 and knows more than she’s testified to previously. She’s also very credible. I wonder if she’ll have a Clarence & Ginni reveal?

Its going to be must see reality television, Apprenticeship Style(c)!

The Juggler

Halifax2TheMax said:

Cassidy Hutchison, former aide to Mike Field of Weeds Meadows will be testifying today and if you’ve watched her previous testimony, you’d think she’s a deer in headlights, can’t believe she’s in the position she’s in and that she’s thinking her whole life is about to be ruined and that she doesn’t want to spend any amount of time in prison. She was close to Weeds and POOTWH before, during and after 1/6 and knows more than she’s testified to previously. She’s also very credible. I wonder if she’ll have a Clarence & Ginni reveal?

Its going to be must see reality television, Apprenticeship Style(c)!

Better be a bombshell today. I was hoping for a bigger name than her. 

Halifax2TheMax

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Cassidy Hutchison, former aide to Mike Field of Weeds Meadows will be testifying today and if you’ve watched her previous testimony, you’d think she’s a deer in headlights, can’t believe she’s in the position she’s in and that she’s thinking her whole life is about to be ruined and that she doesn’t want to spend any amount of time in prison. She was close to Weeds and POOTWH before, during and after 1/6 and knows more than she’s testified to previously. She’s also very credible. I wonder if she’ll have a Clarence & Ginni reveal?

Its going to be must see reality television, Apprenticeship Style(c)!

Better be a bombshell today. I was hoping for a bigger name than her. 

She’s as close to the core inner circle as you can get without the playas and she’s young enough to realize that if she doesn’t come clean or maybe explain some key details that she suddenly remembered, she’d be spending some of her prime years of life in prison. Oh, and she changed attorneys, so there’s that.

Everyone else that’s involved, and particularly the playas that are the focus of the investigation, have lived the prime of their lives and don’t give a fuck. It was a young John Dean who brought down Tricky Dick.

mickeyrat

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Cassidy Hutchison, former aide to Mike Field of Weeds Meadows will be testifying today and if you’ve watched her previous testimony, you’d think she’s a deer in headlights, can’t believe she’s in the position she’s in and that she’s thinking her whole life is about to be ruined and that she doesn’t want to spend any amount of time in prison. She was close to Weeds and POOTWH before, during and after 1/6 and knows more than she’s testified to previously. She’s also very credible. I wonder if she’ll have a Clarence & Ginni reveal?

Its going to be must see reality television, Apprenticeship Style(c)!

Better be a bombshell today. I was hoping for a bigger name than her. 

She’s as close to the core inner circle as you can get without the playas and she’s young enough to realize that if she doesn’t come clean or maybe explain some key details that she suddenly remembered, she’d be spending some of her prime years of life in prison. Oh, and she changed attorneys, so there’s that.

Everyone else that’s involved, and particularly the playas that are the focus of the investigation, have lived the prime of their lives and don’t give a fuck. It was a young John Dean who brought down Tricky Dick.

she was the help. the help always gets ignored. shit is always said in front of the help.

static111

mickeyrat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Cassidy Hutchison, former aide to Mike Field of Weeds Meadows will be testifying today and if you’ve watched her previous testimony, you’d think she’s a deer in headlights, can’t believe she’s in the position she’s in and that she’s thinking her whole life is about to be ruined and that she doesn’t want to spend any amount of time in prison. She was close to Weeds and POOTWH before, during and after 1/6 and knows more than she’s testified to previously. She’s also very credible. I wonder if she’ll have a Clarence & Ginni reveal?

Its going to be must see reality television, Apprenticeship Style(c)!

Better be a bombshell today. I was hoping for a bigger name than her. 

She’s as close to the core inner circle as you can get without the playas and she’s young enough to realize that if she doesn’t come clean or maybe explain some key details that she suddenly remembered, she’d be spending some of her prime years of life in prison. Oh, and she changed attorneys, so there’s that.

Everyone else that’s involved, and particularly the playas that are the focus of the investigation, have lived the prime of their lives and don’t give a fuck. It was a young John Dean who brought down Tricky Dick.

she was the help. the help always gets ignored. shit is always said in front of the help.

The coffee girl, never heard of her...

Halifax2TheMax

Can't happen here. How long before it's fully implemented? Butt hurt about the inability to raise money for hate? Good lord.

See the dots?

From Letter From an American:

While we have been focused on the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade more news has come out about the attempt of Trump and his allies to overturn the government.

Indeed, scholar of authoritarianism Ruth Ben-Ghiat today noted that there is a relationship between the insurrection and the radical Supreme Court decisions coming out. Justice Clarence Thomas has been writing opinions and footnotes that are to the right even of the rest of the radical court, and today he suggested he would like the court to revisit the 1964 New York Times v. Sullivan decision that provides some protection to media outlets from being sued for defamation by requiring a plaintiff to prove the outlet acted with “actual malice.” Thomas wants to make it easier to sue media outlets because, he wrote, the “New York Times and its progeny have allowed media organizations and interest groups ‘to cast false aspersions on public figures with near impunity.’”

Ben-Ghiat tweeted that “[s]elf-protection (and protection for corrupt family members) is a huge driver of authoritarian behaviors. He feels threatened and will try and change the legal order to avoid scrutiny. Radicalized people no longer care about ‘how it looks’ to outsiders.” 

In this particular case, Thomas’s beef is with the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) for calling out Coral Ridge Ministries Media, Inc., as a “hate group” because of its opposition to homosexuality and gay rights. The SPLC identifies as hate groups any groups that “have beliefs or practices that malign or attack an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.” “SPLC’s ‘hate group’ designation lumped Coral Ridge’s Christian ministry with groups like the Ku Klux Klan and Neo-Nazis,” Thomas complained, and that hurt their ability to raise money. 

Recent stories about the attempt to overturn the election include, most notably, Politico’s report of last Monday that British filmmaker Alex Holder filmed the Trump family from September 2020 through to mid-January 2021 to record for posterity their actions during the historic election. Apparently, this was a family project, and a number of the people on the campaign did not know. 

Last Thursday, the January 6 committee interviewed Holder. It has also subpoenaed the tape and the raw footage. 

There are continuing signs that the attempt to overturn the Democratic victory in 2020 and install Trump in office swept in more lawmakers than the committee identified last Thursday. When news broke last Tuesday that Wisconsin senator Ron Johnson, a Republican, had tried to hand off slates of false electors from Michigan and Wisconsin to then–Vice President Mike Pence at the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, Johnson initially passed it off as the work of an unnamed intern and called it a “non-story.”

Two days later, Johnson changed his tune, saying that the office of Representative Mike Kelly (R-PA) had sent the fake slates of electors and that Johnson, his chief of staff, and Trump-affiliated lawyer Jim Troupis had coordinated through text messages to figure out how to get the fake ballots to Pence. Kelly’s office promptly said Kelly “has not spoken to Sen. Johnson for the better part of a decade, and he has no knowledge of the claims Mr. Johnson is making related to the 2020 election.” 

Meanwhile in Colorado, Tina Peters, an election official from Mesa County who has been charged with crimes for her role in trying to overturn the results of the election, on Friday told Nick Corasaniti and Alexandra Berzon of the New York Times that Lauren Boebert (R-CO) encouraged her “to go forward” with stealing and sharing voter information. That information, allegedly obtained through identity theft and illegal breach of computers, later turned up on a right-wing website and at a symposium organized by Mike Lindell, the owner of the MyPillow Company and a leading Trump supporter, alleging voter fraud. A press secretary for Boebert calls the claims false.

HughFreakingDillon

Halifax2TheMax said:

Can't happen here. How long before it's fully implemented? Butt hurt about the inability to raise money for hate? Good lord.

See the dots?

From Letter From an American:

While we have been focused on the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade more news has come out about the attempt of Trump and his allies to overturn the government.

Indeed, scholar of authoritarianism Ruth Ben-Ghiat today noted that there is a relationship between the insurrection and the radical Supreme Court decisions coming out. Justice Clarence Thomas has been writing opinions and footnotes that are to the right even of the rest of the radical court, and today he suggested he would like the court to revisit the 1964 New York Times v. Sullivan decision that provides some protection to media outlets from being sued for defamation by requiring a plaintiff to prove the outlet acted with “actual malice.” Thomas wants to make it easier to sue media outlets because, he wrote, the “New York Times and its progeny have allowed media organizations and interest groups ‘to cast false aspersions on public figures with near impunity.’”

Ben-Ghiat tweeted that “[s]elf-protection (and protection for corrupt family members) is a huge driver of authoritarian behaviors. He feels threatened and will try and change the legal order to avoid scrutiny. Radicalized people no longer care about ‘how it looks’ to outsiders.” 

In this particular case, Thomas’s beef is with the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) for calling out Coral Ridge Ministries Media, Inc., as a “hate group” because of its opposition to homosexuality and gay rights. The SPLC identifies as hate groups any groups that “have beliefs or practices that malign or attack an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.” “SPLC’s ‘hate group’ designation lumped Coral Ridge’s Christian ministry with groups like the Ku Klux Klan and Neo-Nazis,” Thomas complained, and that hurt their ability to raise money. 

Recent stories about the attempt to overturn the election include, most notably, Politico’s report of last Monday that British filmmaker Alex Holder filmed the Trump family from September 2020 through to mid-January 2021 to record for posterity their actions during the historic election. Apparently, this was a family project, and a number of the people on the campaign did not know. 

Last Thursday, the January 6 committee interviewed Holder. It has also subpoenaed the tape and the raw footage. 

There are continuing signs that the attempt to overturn the Democratic victory in 2020 and install Trump in office swept in more lawmakers than the committee identified last Thursday. When news broke last Tuesday that Wisconsin senator Ron Johnson, a Republican, had tried to hand off slates of false electors from Michigan and Wisconsin to then–Vice President Mike Pence at the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, Johnson initially passed it off as the work of an unnamed intern and called it a “non-story.”

Two days later, Johnson changed his tune, saying that the office of Representative Mike Kelly (R-PA) had sent the fake slates of electors and that Johnson, his chief of staff, and Trump-affiliated lawyer Jim Troupis had coordinated through text messages to figure out how to get the fake ballots to Pence. Kelly’s office promptly said Kelly “has not spoken to Sen. Johnson for the better part of a decade, and he has no knowledge of the claims Mr. Johnson is making related to the 2020 election.” 

Meanwhile in Colorado, Tina Peters, an election official from Mesa County who has been charged with crimes for her role in trying to overturn the results of the election, on Friday told Nick Corasaniti and Alexandra Berzon of the New York Times that Lauren Boebert (R-CO) encouraged her “to go forward” with stealing and sharing voter information. That information, allegedly obtained through identity theft and illegal breach of computers, later turned up on a right-wing website and at a symposium organized by Mike Lindell, the owner of the MyPillow Company and a leading Trump supporter, alleging voter fraud. A press secretary for Boebert calls the claims false.

fine. Fox News will be bankrupt within a fortnight. 

Halifax2TheMax

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Can't happen here. How long before it's fully implemented? Butt hurt about the inability to raise money for hate? Good lord.

See the dots?

From Letter From an American:

While we have been focused on the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade more news has come out about the attempt of Trump and his allies to overturn the government.

Indeed, scholar of authoritarianism Ruth Ben-Ghiat today noted that there is a relationship between the insurrection and the radical Supreme Court decisions coming out. Justice Clarence Thomas has been writing opinions and footnotes that are to the right even of the rest of the radical court, and today he suggested he would like the court to revisit the 1964 New York Times v. Sullivan decision that provides some protection to media outlets from being sued for defamation by requiring a plaintiff to prove the outlet acted with “actual malice.” Thomas wants to make it easier to sue media outlets because, he wrote, the “New York Times and its progeny have allowed media organizations and interest groups ‘to cast false aspersions on public figures with near impunity.’”

Ben-Ghiat tweeted that “[s]elf-protection (and protection for corrupt family members) is a huge driver of authoritarian behaviors. He feels threatened and will try and change the legal order to avoid scrutiny. Radicalized people no longer care about ‘how it looks’ to outsiders.” 

In this particular case, Thomas’s beef is with the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) for calling out Coral Ridge Ministries Media, Inc., as a “hate group” because of its opposition to homosexuality and gay rights. The SPLC identifies as hate groups any groups that “have beliefs or practices that malign or attack an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.” “SPLC’s ‘hate group’ designation lumped Coral Ridge’s Christian ministry with groups like the Ku Klux Klan and Neo-Nazis,” Thomas complained, and that hurt their ability to raise money. 

Recent stories about the attempt to overturn the election include, most notably, Politico’s report of last Monday that British filmmaker Alex Holder filmed the Trump family from September 2020 through to mid-January 2021 to record for posterity their actions during the historic election. Apparently, this was a family project, and a number of the people on the campaign did not know. 

Last Thursday, the January 6 committee interviewed Holder. It has also subpoenaed the tape and the raw footage. 

There are continuing signs that the attempt to overturn the Democratic victory in 2020 and install Trump in office swept in more lawmakers than the committee identified last Thursday. When news broke last Tuesday that Wisconsin senator Ron Johnson, a Republican, had tried to hand off slates of false electors from Michigan and Wisconsin to then–Vice President Mike Pence at the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, Johnson initially passed it off as the work of an unnamed intern and called it a “non-story.”

Two days later, Johnson changed his tune, saying that the office of Representative Mike Kelly (R-PA) had sent the fake slates of electors and that Johnson, his chief of staff, and Trump-affiliated lawyer Jim Troupis had coordinated through text messages to figure out how to get the fake ballots to Pence. Kelly’s office promptly said Kelly “has not spoken to Sen. Johnson for the better part of a decade, and he has no knowledge of the claims Mr. Johnson is making related to the 2020 election.” 

Meanwhile in Colorado, Tina Peters, an election official from Mesa County who has been charged with crimes for her role in trying to overturn the results of the election, on Friday told Nick Corasaniti and Alexandra Berzon of the New York Times that Lauren Boebert (R-CO) encouraged her “to go forward” with stealing and sharing voter information. That information, allegedly obtained through identity theft and illegal breach of computers, later turned up on a right-wing website and at a symposium organized by Mike Lindell, the owner of the MyPillow Company and a leading Trump supporter, alleging voter fraud. A press secretary for Boebert calls the claims false.

fine. Fox News will be bankrupt within a fortnight. 

Faux News will be exempt because their talking heads are infotainment and opinion, not "news." 

Halifax2TheMax

Seems Cassidy may have information regarding the Georgia election interference and we all know a grand jury in Georgia is hearing evidence and that state charges are not pardonable (by POTUS). She also previously worked for Ted Crud and Steve Scumlese. She was also the liaison between Field of Weeds and the Hill. Who else on the repub side had knowledge of 1/6 and participated in the coup planning?

pjhawks

Halifax2TheMax said:

Seems Cassidy may have information regarding the Georgia election interference and we all know a grand jury in Georgia is hearing evidence and that state charges are not pardonable (by POTUS). She also previously worked for Ted Crud and Tom Scumlese. She was also the liaison between Field of Weeds and the Hill. Who else on the repub side had knowledge of 1/6 and participated in the coup planning?

does it make you feel better to use dumb names and acronyms?  seriously are you like 14?   can you talk like a normal person here once in a while?  it's nauseating trying to read your posts.

Halifax2TheMax

pjhawks said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Seems Cassidy may have information regarding the Georgia election interference and we all know a grand jury in Georgia is hearing evidence and that state charges are not pardonable (by POTUS). She also previously worked for Ted Crud and Tom Scumlese. She was also the liaison between Field of Weeds and the Hill. Who else on the repub side had knowledge of 1/6 and participated in the coup planning?

does it make you feel better to use dumb names and acronyms?  seriously are you like 14?   can you talk like a normal person here once in a while?  it's nauseating trying to read your posts.

I don’t respect these POS traitors enough to write or utter their names. Deal with it. Or ignore if it helps.

mrussel1

pjhawks said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Seems Cassidy may have information regarding the Georgia election interference and we all know a grand jury in Georgia is hearing evidence and that state charges are not pardonable (by POTUS). She also previously worked for Ted Crud and Tom Scumlese. She was also the liaison between Field of Weeds and the Hill. Who else on the repub side had knowledge of 1/6 and participated in the coup planning?

does it make you feel better to use dumb names and acronyms?  seriously are you like 14?   can you talk like a normal person here once in a while?  it's nauseating trying to read your posts.

Don't be such a libtard. 

cincybearcat

Halifax2TheMax said:

pjhawks said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Seems Cassidy may have information regarding the Georgia election interference and we all know a grand jury in Georgia is hearing evidence and that state charges are not pardonable (by POTUS). She also previously worked for Ted Crud and Tom Scumlese. She was also the liaison between Field of Weeds and the Hill. Who else on the repub side had knowledge of 1/6 and participated in the coup planning?

does it make you feel better to use dumb names and acronyms?  seriously are you like 14?   can you talk like a normal person here once in a while?  it's nauseating trying to read your posts.

I don’t respect these POS traitors enough to write or utter their names. Deal with it. Or ignore if it helps.

Ignoring helps...I start to read and then the dumb names start so I just skip it and move along most times.  I wonder how many others do?