2022 North American rumour thread take 2

DEGBTI

is vedpunks post going over everyone's head?

ComeToTX

Got my attention 

RansomPTD

But, but, but band x announced shows! So?

But, but, but I like to travel to shows and want to plan my travel! So?

But, but, but their schedule doesn’t work with my work/kids/life/vacation schedule! So?

But,but, but I liked the old dates better! So?

But, but, but I decided Covid wasn’t a thing anymore like 6 months ago!  So?

But, but, but I held on to my tickets for 2 years! So? 

But, but, but I’ve been a fan since 1991! So?

Please fill me on any of those items that are any band’s problem. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.  It’s transactional. We pay money, they give us music.  That’s it, that’s the deal.  Shelling out a few bucks gets a couple hours of their time.  It doesn’t not get you part ownership and it doesn’t entitle to a penny more than what you paid for.

If only Pearl Jam would say something like this. 

kosteva2

Clapper said:

Manu117 said:

I'm getting to the point that I think TM resale should be enabled so we fans can at least have the option to resell their tickets and get compensation for their loyalty and frustration (and 2+ years of interest).

@Clapper please don't respond, I already know you think PJ can do no wrong and fans are entitled to nothing but a refund.  S'all good.

Imagine tagging someone and saying “please don’t respond”. You’re definitely the guy who licks his plate clean at a restaurant and then asks for his money back because it didn’t taste good.  The band can do plenty of wrong.  I just can’t believe actual adult humans think a band that postponed a tour because of a plague think they are entitled to anything other than the two options they’ve been given  of a rescheduled show or your money back. One or the other  makes people whole. The mention of interest on money you’ve been offered to have refunded repeatedly is hilarious. Please compensate me for my choices!   Thinking you’re entitled to anything other than the show or the refund  isn’t even delusional. It’s straight up Concert Karen loser shit.  

Please tag me again when you start your “official petition to play my back yard on the date of my choosing  because the band didn’t check with me  to see if the tour schedule works for me it’s not faaaaaaaaair” thread. 

But, but, but band x announced shows! So?

But, but, but I like to travel to shows and want to plan my travel! So?

But, but, but their schedule doesn’t work with my work/kids/life/vacation schedule! So?

But,but, but I liked the old dates better! So?

But, but, but I decided Covid wasn’t a thing anymore like 6 months ago!  So?

But, but, but I held on to my tickets for 2 years! So? 

But, but, but I’ve been a fan since 1991! So?

Please fill me on any of those items that are any band’s problem. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.  It’s transactional. We pay money, they give us music.  That’s it, that’s the deal.  Shelling out a few bucks gets a couple hours of their time.  It doesn’t not get you part ownership and it doesn’t entitle to a penny more than what you paid for.  

Stay mad

This might be the best post on the 204+ page thread so far.  Thank you for posting this!

vedpunk

ComeToTX said:

Got my attention 

Sorry, my attempt at a joke didn’t stick the landing.  I would do anything for a proper Austin show though. 

aisleseats

vedpunk said:

ComeToTX said:

Got my attention 

Sorry, my attempt at a joke didn’t stick the landing.  I would do anything for a proper Austin show though. 

I've been over here like, "Maybe they do Dallas on 9/18, then OKC on 9/20 and Denver on 9/22?"

D-Rod

mcgruff10 said:

D-Rod said:

mcgruff10 said:

Concert Karen is funny as hell lol. Your response makes a lot of sense.  Well played @Clapper

I dated Concert Karen in Collage.  Believe or not she dumped me.  

Let me guess, she dumped you Because she was a spelling bee champion and it irked her you couldn’t spell college correctly?

Lol, good catch bro,  no, she took me to her church, had a bad case of the giggles and was asked to leave.   She was embarrassed and I walked home alone. 

P34RL J4MM3R

kosteva2 said:

Clapper said:

Manu117 said:

I'm getting to the point that I think TM resale should be enabled so we fans can at least have the option to resell their tickets and get compensation for their loyalty and frustration (and 2+ years of interest).

@Clapper please don't respond, I already know you think PJ can do no wrong and fans are entitled to nothing but a refund.  S'all good.

Imagine tagging someone and saying “please don’t respond”. You’re definitely the guy who licks his plate clean at a restaurant and then asks for his money back because it didn’t taste good.  The band can do plenty of wrong.  I just can’t believe actual adult humans think a band that postponed a tour because of a plague think they are entitled to anything other than the two options they’ve been given  of a rescheduled show or your money back. One or the other  makes people whole. The mention of interest on money you’ve been offered to have refunded repeatedly is hilarious. Please compensate me for my choices!   Thinking you’re entitled to anything other than the show or the refund  isn’t even delusional. It’s straight up Concert Karen loser shit.  

Please tag me again when you start your “official petition to play my back yard on the date of my choosing  because the band didn’t check with me  to see if the tour schedule works for me it’s not faaaaaaaaair” thread. 

But, but, but band x announced shows! So?

But, but, but I like to travel to shows and want to plan my travel! So?

But, but, but their schedule doesn’t work with my work/kids/life/vacation schedule! So?

But,but, but I liked the old dates better! So?

But, but, but I decided Covid wasn’t a thing anymore like 6 months ago!  So?

But, but, but I held on to my tickets for 2 years! So? 

But, but, but I’ve been a fan since 1991! So?

Please fill me on any of those items that are any band’s problem. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.  It’s transactional. We pay money, they give us music.  That’s it, that’s the deal.  Shelling out a few bucks gets a couple hours of their time.  It doesn’t not get you part ownership and it doesn’t entitle to a penny more than what you paid for.  

Stay mad

This might be the best post on the 204+ page thread so far.  Thank you for posting this!

I'm sorry, anyone who sides with Clapper and is boosting this post as a good post is completely jaded and lost the actual Spirit of a Pearl Jam concert.  If you just view it as a transaction, then I am truly sorry for you and where you have landed in life.  You should probably skip the upcoming tour as you will definitely miss the Magic and the Wonder and Awe of it all.  If these shows are nothing more than a transaction, then you will miss the Passion and the Power that other people still feel.  Those are the people who are on the side of right in this battle for our souls.  You can try to beat people down and make them sound so small and stupid, but they are the ones who will enjoy the shows the most.  We won't, in fact, We CAN'T view this as a transaction, this is food for our souls and a religious experience.  These shows are not transactions, they are the feeling of Christmas morning.  They are connecting with friends both new and old.  They are reliving past triumphs and toasting to future conquests.

You can view the Pearl Jam concert the same as paying for parking, I flatly refuse to view it this way.

I will view it as thousands of my closest friends communing together in a spirit of Joy and Love and Peace, and actually making the world a better place for a few hours.

But, hey, live and let live and to each their own.  I appreciate your post Clapper, as it was able to clarify and magnify my own views.

ddeschler

 the Magic and the Wonder and Awe of it all.  If these shows are nothing more than a transaction, then you will miss the Passion and the Power that other people still feel… this is food for our souls and a religious experience…they are the feeling of Christmas morning.  

I will view it as thousands of my closest friends communing together in a spirit of Joy and Love and Peace, and actually making the world a better place 

That was beautiful.  Thank you for posting this.  It gave me chills. 

HoldeIN

Pluralone is now listed with PJ on ticketmaster for some shows (Nashville) but not others (St Louis). I don't remember seeing that earlier and maybe ticketmaster has not updated all the shows yet. It's been so long I can't remember, are they opening at all shows? 

drakeheuer14

I forgot about the opener. Was hoping they did too haha

wsimon74

P34RL J4MM3R said:

kosteva2 said:

Clapper said:

Manu117 said:

I'm getting to the point that I think TM resale should be enabled so we fans can at least have the option to resell their tickets and get compensation for their loyalty and frustration (and 2+ years of interest).

@Clapper please don't respond, I already know you think PJ can do no wrong and fans are entitled to nothing but a refund.  S'all good.

Imagine tagging someone and saying “please don’t respond”. You’re definitely the guy who licks his plate clean at a restaurant and then asks for his money back because it didn’t taste good.  The band can do plenty of wrong.  I just can’t believe actual adult humans think a band that postponed a tour because of a plague think they are entitled to anything other than the two options they’ve been given  of a rescheduled show or your money back. One or the other  makes people whole. The mention of interest on money you’ve been offered to have refunded repeatedly is hilarious. Please compensate me for my choices!   Thinking you’re entitled to anything other than the show or the refund  isn’t even delusional. It’s straight up Concert Karen loser shit.  

Please tag me again when you start your “official petition to play my back yard on the date of my choosing  because the band didn’t check with me  to see if the tour schedule works for me it’s not faaaaaaaaair” thread. 

But, but, but band x announced shows! So?

But, but, but I like to travel to shows and want to plan my travel! So?

But, but, but their schedule doesn’t work with my work/kids/life/vacation schedule! So?

But,but, but I liked the old dates better! So?

But, but, but I decided Covid wasn’t a thing anymore like 6 months ago!  So?

But, but, but I held on to my tickets for 2 years! So? 

But, but, but I’ve been a fan since 1991! So?

Please fill me on any of those items that are any band’s problem. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.  It’s transactional. We pay money, they give us music.  That’s it, that’s the deal.  Shelling out a few bucks gets a couple hours of their time.  It doesn’t not get you part ownership and it doesn’t entitle to a penny more than what you paid for.  

Stay mad

This might be the best post on the 204+ page thread so far.  Thank you for posting this!

I'm sorry, anyone who sides with Clapper and is boosting this post as a good post is completely jaded and lost the actual Spirit of a Pearl Jam concert.  If you just view it as a transaction, then I am truly sorry for you and where you have landed in life.  You should probably skip the upcoming tour as you will definitely miss the Magic and the Wonder and Awe of it all.  If these shows are nothing more than a transaction, then you will miss the Passion and the Power that other people still feel.  Those are the people who are on the side of right in this battle for our souls.  You can try to beat people down and make them sound so small and stupid, but they are the ones who will enjoy the shows the most.  We won't, in fact, We CAN'T view this as a transaction, this is food for our souls and a religious experience.  These shows are not transactions, they are the feeling of Christmas morning.  They are connecting with friends both new and old.  They are reliving past triumphs and toasting to future conquests.

You can view the Pearl Jam concert the same as paying for parking, I flatly refuse to view it this way.

I will view it as thousands of my closest friends communing together in a spirit of Joy and Love and Peace, and actually making the world a better place for a few hours.

But, hey, live and let live and to each their own.  I appreciate your post Clapper, as it was able to clarify and magnify my own views.

This.

 I am not religious, but seeing PJ is the closest thing I can think of as a religious experience. Glad I’m not alone in that opinion 

aisleseats

P34RL J4MM3R said:

kosteva2 said:

Clapper said:

Manu117 said:

I'm getting to the point that I think TM resale should be enabled so we fans can at least have the option to resell their tickets and get compensation for their loyalty and frustration (and 2+ years of interest).

@Clapper please don't respond, I already know you think PJ can do no wrong and fans are entitled to nothing but a refund.  S'all good.

Imagine tagging someone and saying “please don’t respond”. You’re definitely the guy who licks his plate clean at a restaurant and then asks for his money back because it didn’t taste good.  The band can do plenty of wrong.  I just can’t believe actual adult humans think a band that postponed a tour because of a plague think they are entitled to anything other than the two options they’ve been given  of a rescheduled show or your money back. One or the other  makes people whole. The mention of interest on money you’ve been offered to have refunded repeatedly is hilarious. Please compensate me for my choices!   Thinking you’re entitled to anything other than the show or the refund  isn’t even delusional. It’s straight up Concert Karen loser shit.  

Please tag me again when you start your “official petition to play my back yard on the date of my choosing  because the band didn’t check with me  to see if the tour schedule works for me it’s not faaaaaaaaair” thread. 

But, but, but band x announced shows! So?

But, but, but I like to travel to shows and want to plan my travel! So?

But, but, but their schedule doesn’t work with my work/kids/life/vacation schedule! So?

But,but, but I liked the old dates better! So?

But, but, but I decided Covid wasn’t a thing anymore like 6 months ago!  So?

But, but, but I held on to my tickets for 2 years! So? 

But, but, but I’ve been a fan since 1991! So?

Please fill me on any of those items that are any band’s problem. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.  It’s transactional. We pay money, they give us music.  That’s it, that’s the deal.  Shelling out a few bucks gets a couple hours of their time.  It doesn’t not get you part ownership and it doesn’t entitle to a penny more than what you paid for.  

Stay mad

This might be the best post on the 204+ page thread so far.  Thank you for posting this!

I'm sorry, anyone who sides with Clapper and is boosting this post as a good post is completely jaded and lost the actual Spirit of a Pearl Jam concert.  If you just view it as a transaction, then I am truly sorry for you and where you have landed in life.  You should probably skip the upcoming tour as you will definitely miss the Magic and the Wonder and Awe of it all.  If these shows are nothing more than a transaction, then you will miss the Passion and the Power that other people still feel.  Those are the people who are on the side of right in this battle for our souls.  You can try to beat people down and make them sound so small and stupid, but they are the ones who will enjoy the shows the most.  We won't, in fact, We CAN'T view this as a transaction, this is food for our souls and a religious experience.  These shows are not transactions, they are the feeling of Christmas morning.  They are connecting with friends both new and old.  They are reliving past triumphs and toasting to future conquests.

You can view the Pearl Jam concert the same as paying for parking, I flatly refuse to view it this way.

I will view it as thousands of my closest friends communing together in a spirit of Joy and Love and Peace, and actually making the world a better place for a few hours.

But, hey, live and let live and to each their own.  I appreciate your post Clapper, as it was able to clarify and magnify my own views.

Amen

YAKIMATSU

So, if LA is 5-6/7 it seems that either Vegas is 5-20 and we get three new shows or Vegas is 5-13.  OAK 5-3/4, LA 5-6/7, SD 5-9, PHX 5-11 then 3 added shows LV 5-20.
Just for fun Portland 5-22 and Seattle 5-24.  All venues seem available. 
Maybe also for the three added, Dallas 5-13, Houston 5-15, New Orleans 5-17???

lastexit78

Oakland was a Sat/Sun in 2020. If it ends up being middle of the week that really sucks for those of us with work and childcare responsibilities. Easier for me to travel to So Cal or Vegas for a weekend then try to make mid week shows 2 hours from Sacramento. I wish there was some sort of exchange option for those of us in this predicament. Awesome to see these shows finally happening, I’m sure the logistics weren’t easy , just unfortunate for a lot of fans who are gonna be a bind because of the timing.

dr122931

lastexit78 said:

Oakland was a Sat/Sun in 2020. If it ends up being middle of the week that really sucks for those of us with work and childcare responsibilities. Easier for me to travel to So Cal or Vegas for a weekend then try to make mid week shows 2 hours from Sacramento. I wish there was some sort of exchange option for those of us in this predicament. Awesome to see these shows finally happening, I’m sure the logistics weren’t easy , just unfortunate for a lot of fans who are gonna be a bind because of the timing.

I agree. I was flying in from Texas for the Oakland show  because they were on a weekend… Kids and work are going to make it difficult for my friends and I to travel in the middle of the week. But, with all the shit going on in the world, it’s hard to complain. 

That said, how has it been assumed that Oakland is that early? I know the LA dates have been leaked, but I have not seen anything credible on Oakland.   Could it be later in May? I have not looked at arena availability.  

Lost In Ohio

craigraether said:

Clapper said:

ComeToTX said:

It’s a transaction where we did our part 2 years ago and they still haven’t told us when they’ll fulfill their end of the deal. 

Have you been offered a refund? Yes. Has there been any sign that shows are not being rescheduled? No. You can reach all you want but the transaction is still intact. 

I would add that the majority of us posting have really good seats/GA, and would not want to be thrown back into the pool to redo the whole lottery and F5 F2F ordeal - plus have to pay higher post CV prices.. have a glass of wine, we are close and all will be known soon. 

What might make sense: They sell the available seats to 10C members and then re-distribute as if it was the first time every ticket went on sale. People who had original tickets shouldn't see much of a difference. Some may move slightly back or up.

What they'll probably do: 10C on-sale with those seats giving those seats to members based on their ticketing assignment. People with original tickets won't be moved, but people who buy this second lotto could hit it big-time vs their regular seats.

ZeldaZonk

HughFreakingDillon said:

3days said:

It's gonna be okay.

Of course it will be ok. just was a dick move and wasted a lot of my time. can't stand that narcissistic shit. there's a lot of people here who know exactly what the dates are, but don't tease people to make them beg for more for their own attention issues. it's childish. 

Agreed.

ZeldaZonk

OceansJenny said:

MyBitterHands76 said:

Sea Heat Now lineup is kinda so so

Green Day puts on a smokin show. Worth the admission price.

They really do. 

on2legs

PJNB

on2legs said:

Love the early morning spirit! 

JimmyV

PJNB said:

on2legs said:

Love the early morning spirit! 

Early morning spirit FTW!

Kevinman

Here we go again……

Kevinman

I mean…..yeah, can’t wait.  It’s Friday!

JoeyP21

MakeUSmile

Trying to get in on the GIF fun, but it’s not letting me. 

dmbolp

MakeUSmile said:

Trying to get in on the GIF fun, but it’s not letting me. 

PinoyPJ

100 Pacer

JimmyV

I'll be in the air for the next few hours so a 9am or 10am announcement is in play. Just because.