Washington and Lincoln are out. S.F. school board tosses 44 school names in controversial move

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Washington and Lincoln are out. S.F. school board tosses 44 school names in controversial move


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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Meltdown99 said:


    Washington and Lincoln are out. S.F. school board tosses 44 school names in controversial move



    Subscription required to read the article.  Judging by the headline, sounds like a dumb move. 

    San Francisco has been my home city for ages.  I suppose it's normal for a city to change in character over time, but so much of what made it a great city in the 50's and 60's, and a decent city in the 70's, 80's and 90's- so many of those best attributes are gone or disappearing.  San Francisco in the 2000's is but a shadow of it's former grand self.  Very sad to see this happen and, in my very opinionated opinion, much of that is due to too many young, wealthy tech people who don't appreciate the history and the long-standing character of the city, and too many over-the-top politically correct so-called "progressives" who haven't lived long enough to have a clear perspective on what makes a well balanced community and social structure.  As much as I have loved this city, I have little interest in going there any more.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,994
    Hopefully people can access this version, lol. Gotta say I side with the mayor on this, comes across as misplaced priorities. Not saying the discussion’s not worth having, just poor timing in my opinion.

    https://torontosun.com/news/world/san-francisco-to-strip-abraham-lincoln-george-washington-from-school-names
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    DarthMaeglin said:
    Hopefully people can access this version, lol. Gotta say I side with the mayor on this, comes across as misplaced priorities. Not saying the discussion’s not worth having, just poor timing in my opinion.

    https://torontosun.com/news/world/san-francisco-to-strip-abraham-lincoln-george-washington-from-school-names

    Thanks for the readable link!

    "It would cost approximately US$440,000 to replace school signs, the Courthouse News reported. Factoring other expenses, the cost could balloon to at least $1 million, according to the Chronicle."

    I can think a of much better things to do with that money like feed the homeless, improve special ed classes or clean up the beaches.  I just don't see what the big deal is.  It's not like this school names are "Adolph Hitler Elementary School", or "Mussolini Middle School", or "Attila the Hun High".



    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Mussolini Middle School :rofl:
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    DarthMaeglin said:
    Hopefully people can access this version, lol. Gotta say I side with the mayor on this, comes across as misplaced priorities. Not saying the discussion’s not worth having, just poor timing in my opinion.

    https://torontosun.com/news/world/san-francisco-to-strip-abraham-lincoln-george-washington-from-school-names

    Thanks for the readable link!

    "It would cost approximately US$440,000 to replace school signs, the Courthouse News reported. Factoring other expenses, the cost could balloon to at least $1 million, according to the Chronicle."

    I can think a of much better things to do with that money like feed the homeless, improve special ed classes or clean up the beaches.  I just don't see what the big deal is.  It's not like this school names are "Adolph Hitler Elementary School", or "Mussolini Middle School", or "Attila the Hun High".



    It will likely be 2 million.  Governments have a way of overspending.

    now name the schools after national parks...not after people...people are flawed.  They will never find perfect people.


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    hedonist said:
    Mussolini Middle School :rofl:
    And they can go to “Hitler High”.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    White privilege clutching its pearls over chickens coming home to roost for a dunderheaded, slave-owning war general and a racist, neckbearded milquetoast in a city of progress.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,830
    Seems kind of dumb to me. What is wrong with Lincoln? Are we going to rename cities named after people too? Because that is like half the cities in the country then.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    mace1229 said:
    Seems kind of dumb to me. What is wrong with Lincoln? Are we going to rename cities named after people too? Because that is like half the cities in the country then.

    Exactly!
    On the other hand, at the other end of the spectrum there are probably millions of people who would like to rename Shitabrick, Texas and name it Trumptown, Texas.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,098
    i can imagine the varsity letter at hitler high looking like the AH logo hitler hung over the door of his office at the berghof.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,830
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Seems kind of dumb to me. What is wrong with Lincoln? Are we going to rename cities named after people too? Because that is like half the cities in the country then.

    Exactly!
    On the other hand, at the other end of the spectrum there are probably millions of people who would like to rename Shitabrick, Texas and name it Trumptown, Texas.
    Just seems odd to target schools named after presidents, especially presidents that freed slaves and are generally considered the most important in our history. And then, do these people realize their city is named after a saint? A religious figure? St Francis, founded many missions. Just seems ironic to attack one and not the other. I'm actually okay with both names.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Seems kind of dumb to me. What is wrong with Lincoln? Are we going to rename cities named after people too? Because that is like half the cities in the country then.

    Exactly!
    On the other hand, at the other end of the spectrum there are probably millions of people who would like to rename Shitabrick, Texas and name it Trumptown, Texas.
    Just seems odd to target schools named after presidents, especially presidents that freed slaves and are generally considered the most important in our history. And then, do these people realize their city is named after a saint? A religious figure? St Francis, founded many missions. Just seems ironic to attack one and not the other. I'm actually okay with both names.

    Good point!  Hadn't thought of that.  But what do you suppose they would name it?  Quake City?  Dot.comville?  Upwardlymobleton?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,830
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Seems kind of dumb to me. What is wrong with Lincoln? Are we going to rename cities named after people too? Because that is like half the cities in the country then.

    Exactly!
    On the other hand, at the other end of the spectrum there are probably millions of people who would like to rename Shitabrick, Texas and name it Trumptown, Texas.
    Just seems odd to target schools named after presidents, especially presidents that freed slaves and are generally considered the most important in our history. And then, do these people realize their city is named after a saint? A religious figure? St Francis, founded many missions. Just seems ironic to attack one and not the other. I'm actually okay with both names.

    Good point!  Hadn't thought of that.  But what do you suppose they would name it?  Quake City?  Dot.comville?  Upwardlymobleton?
    Probably something stupid like Banana Slugs, then make San Jose change their mascot. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    if we're going to continue with this renaming shit, then do them all, or don't do any of them. there are historical figures across the globe that are considered a net positive to humanity, even if they were alcoholics/drug users/adulterers/abusers/general shitheads/etc. 

    all humans are flawed. either we accept that and still honour their achievements to society regardless of their personal demons, or we don't. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,324
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Seems kind of dumb to me. What is wrong with Lincoln? Are we going to rename cities named after people too? Because that is like half the cities in the country then.

    Exactly!
    On the other hand, at the other end of the spectrum there are probably millions of people who would like to rename Shitabrick, Texas and name it Trumptown, Texas.
    Just seems odd to target schools named after presidents, especially presidents that freed slaves and are generally considered the most important in our history. And then, do these people realize their city is named after a saint? A religious figure? St Francis, founded many missions. Just seems ironic to attack one and not the other. I'm actually okay with both names.

    Good point!  Hadn't thought of that.  But what do you suppose they would name it?  Quake City?  Dot.comville?  Upwardlymobleton?
    Probably something stupid like Banana Slugs, then make San Jose change their mascot. 
    The Banana Slugs are UC Santa Cruz. I grew up in San Jose, and while we may have had slugs there, we didn't name any sports teams or mascots after them.
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,324
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Seems kind of dumb to me. What is wrong with Lincoln? Are we going to rename cities named after people too? Because that is like half the cities in the country then.

    Exactly!
    On the other hand, at the other end of the spectrum there are probably millions of people who would like to rename Shitabrick, Texas and name it Trumptown, Texas.
    Just seems odd to target schools named after presidents, especially presidents that freed slaves and are generally considered the most important in our history. And then, do these people realize their city is named after a saint? A religious figure? St Francis, founded many missions. Just seems ironic to attack one and not the other. I'm actually okay with both names.

    Good point!  Hadn't thought of that.  But what do you suppose they would name it?  Quake City?  Dot.comville?  Upwardlymobleton?
    The City
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,830
    JeBurkhardt said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Seems kind of dumb to me. What is wrong with Lincoln? Are we going to rename cities named after people too? Because that is like half the cities in the country then.

    Exactly!
    On the other hand, at the other end of the spectrum there are probably millions of people who would like to rename Shitabrick, Texas and name it Trumptown, Texas.
    Just seems odd to target schools named after presidents, especially presidents that freed slaves and are generally considered the most important in our history. And then, do these people realize their city is named after a saint? A religious figure? St Francis, founded many missions. Just seems ironic to attack one and not the other. I'm actually okay with both names.

    Good point!  Hadn't thought of that.  But what do you suppose they would name it?  Quake City?  Dot.comville?  Upwardlymobleton?
    Probably something stupid like Banana Slugs, then make San Jose change their mascot. 
    The Banana Slugs are UC Santa Cruz. I grew up in San Jose, and while we may have had slugs there, we didn't name any sports teams or mascots after them.
    Thats right, I meant Santa Cruz.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i can imagine the varsity letter at hitler high looking like the AH logo hitler hung over the door of his office at the berghof.
     Corporal punishment would be a bitch. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    JeBurkhardt said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Seems kind of dumb to me. What is wrong with Lincoln? Are we going to rename cities named after people too? Because that is like half the cities in the country then.

    Exactly!
    On the other hand, at the other end of the spectrum there are probably millions of people who would like to rename Shitabrick, Texas and name it Trumptown, Texas.
    Just seems odd to target schools named after presidents, especially presidents that freed slaves and are generally considered the most important in our history. And then, do these people realize their city is named after a saint? A religious figure? St Francis, founded many missions. Just seems ironic to attack one and not the other. I'm actually okay with both names.

    Good point!  Hadn't thought of that.  But what do you suppose they would name it?  Quake City?  Dot.comville?  Upwardlymobleton?
    The City

    There you go!  I've always referred to S.F. as The City anyway (and as a fellow Bay Area-ite, probably you too) so, yeah, right on!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,830
    brianlux said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Seems kind of dumb to me. What is wrong with Lincoln? Are we going to rename cities named after people too? Because that is like half the cities in the country then.

    Exactly!
    On the other hand, at the other end of the spectrum there are probably millions of people who would like to rename Shitabrick, Texas and name it Trumptown, Texas.
    Just seems odd to target schools named after presidents, especially presidents that freed slaves and are generally considered the most important in our history. And then, do these people realize their city is named after a saint? A religious figure? St Francis, founded many missions. Just seems ironic to attack one and not the other. I'm actually okay with both names.

    Good point!  Hadn't thought of that.  But what do you suppose they would name it?  Quake City?  Dot.comville?  Upwardlymobleton?
    The City

    There you go!  I've always referred to S.F. as The City anyway (and as a fellow Bay Area-ite, probably you too) so, yeah, right on!
    I thought only New Yorkers did that?

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