ISO - '98 Minneapolis Poster

on2legs

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

OK, but if I post a price and no one responds, you guys have to sell me yours.

$400.  Hard to gauge what the true value is.  98s are always harder to find, espresso beans hasn't had a sale in a long time, the all-time average there is $433.xx.  If I'm way off base, someone can feel free to tell me (in an email negotiation over a sale preferably!), but I don't think I am.  Very few 98s go for a lot more than that.  This one historically hasn't.

I'm open to discussing if someone actually has one and wants to sell.  $400, no fees to you, and it will be hung amongst the best-framed of music and sports prints in the upper midwest!

I’m no expert but most 98s go for more than $400... you might need to be closer to double your offer to pry one loose.  Best of luck in your search... hope you get one soon.

If that’s true, I don’t know what sources people are basing that on.  Ebeans has a few high listed ones, but most simply haven’t sold that high.  I’ll pay the value for it, but I haven’t seen anything that suggests it’s significantly higher than that.  That’s all I’m getting at.  I did my homework when I picked that number; it’s it’s way off, I’m happy to be wrong.  But it’d need to see why before I double that money for a poster!

As far as sources go... recent sales here, eBay sales and as someone else already posted - Collectionzz - are all good resources.  I still would disagree that very few 98's go for more than $400.  I can think of a bunch of 1998's that are easily $1k or more off the top of my head - St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Boston, Dallas, Seattle, Melbourne, Las Vegas, Chicago, Indy, Knoxville, East Lansing, etc.   When it comes to 98's I think $400 is probably only going to get you a handful of the least in demand posters, such as LA or Atlanta.  And even those deals are hard to come by. 

I hope someone comes through and hooks you up for $400... that would be a really nice gesture. 

vant0037

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

OK, but if I post a price and no one responds, you guys have to sell me yours.

$400.  Hard to gauge what the true value is.  98s are always harder to find, espresso beans hasn't had a sale in a long time, the all-time average there is $433.xx.  If I'm way off base, someone can feel free to tell me (in an email negotiation over a sale preferably!), but I don't think I am.  Very few 98s go for a lot more than that.  This one historically hasn't.

I'm open to discussing if someone actually has one and wants to sell.  $400, no fees to you, and it will be hung amongst the best-framed of music and sports prints in the upper midwest!

I’m no expert but most 98s go for more than $400... you might need to be closer to double your offer to pry one loose.  Best of luck in your search... hope you get one soon.

If that’s true, I don’t know what sources people are basing that on.  Ebeans has a few high listed ones, but most simply haven’t sold that high.  I’ll pay the value for it, but I haven’t seen anything that suggests it’s significantly higher than that.  That’s all I’m getting at.  I did my homework when I picked that number; it’s it’s way off, I’m happy to be wrong.  But it’d need to see why before I double that money for a poster!

As far as sources go... recent sales here, eBay sales and as someone else already posted - Collectionzz - are all good resources.  I still would disagree that very few 98's go for more than $400.  I can think of a bunch of 1998's that are easily $1k or more off the top of my head - St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Boston, Dallas, Seattle, Melbourne, Las Vegas, Chicago, Indy, Knoxville, East Lansing, etc.   When it comes to 98's I think $400 is probably only going to get you a handful of the least in demand posters, such as LA or Atlanta.  And even those deals are hard to come by. 

I hope someone comes through and hooks you up for $400... that would be a really nice gesture. 

I guess here’s my point:  my thread was created to find a seller to negotiate a price.  Not to debate pricing.  I was told I’d get interest by posting a price.  I did that.  And received some indication that my price point was low.  Unless one of you has one to sell, I’m not sure what the point of pushing a price listing is?  I get it: it’s the internet and everyone’s opinion is very important but please read my initial post: it was to find someone interested in selling.  There should be no confusion about that or about how price is determined in a sale: what a buyer is willing to pay and what a seller is willing to give it for.  That typically happens in a negotiation between a seller who is interested in moving it and a buyer who wants one. It should be abundantly clear that I was not posting here to twist the arm of someone who has one but doesn’t want to sell - why would I do that?  That would only result in a higher price.  And maybe that price is fair or not, but having bought and sold lots of stuff online, I can tell you a fair price is mostly subjective.  Depends on the goals and intentions of both buyer and seller...whom I hoped this thread would find!

So yeah.  If you don’t have one to sell and your goal was to simply make a point to me about what you think my price was low, then I guess I’d wonder what the point of going out of your way was?  Maybe I am wrong, but again, if you’re not a seller, why stop and comment?  I get it - it’s the internet, but the idea that there are some sellers who really want to move this print but are waiting for the right seller to post a price is a little silly.  Which leaves me with this: the price point - whether accurate historically or not - is now, at least for buyers on this board, what you say it is.  Thanks?  But as a seller of sports memorabilia, I am very confident that two sales among many historically do not set fair market value, which is again only one factor in how an agreed upon price gets set by motivated buyer and motivated seller. I get it that you disagree.  Ultimately, if you’re not a seller, I’m not sure how interested or helpful that opinion is, lest the price points get driven up further! Lol.

So...again, anyone have one they want to sell?

vant0037

also, where are you finding prices for recent sales here????

SHZA

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

OK, but if I post a price and no one responds, you guys have to sell me yours.

$400.  Hard to gauge what the true value is.  98s are always harder to find, espresso beans hasn't had a sale in a long time, the all-time average there is $433.xx.  If I'm way off base, someone can feel free to tell me (in an email negotiation over a sale preferably!), but I don't think I am.  Very few 98s go for a lot more than that.  This one historically hasn't.

I'm open to discussing if someone actually has one and wants to sell.  $400, no fees to you, and it will be hung amongst the best-framed of music and sports prints in the upper midwest!

I’m no expert but most 98s go for more than $400... you might need to be closer to double your offer to pry one loose.  Best of luck in your search... hope you get one soon.

If that’s true, I don’t know what sources people are basing that on.  Ebeans has a few high listed ones, but most simply haven’t sold that high.  I’ll pay the value for it, but I haven’t seen anything that suggests it’s significantly higher than that.  That’s all I’m getting at.  I did my homework when I picked that number; it’s it’s way off, I’m happy to be wrong.  But it’d need to see why before I double that money for a poster!

As far as sources go... recent sales here, eBay sales and as someone else already posted - Collectionzz - are all good resources.  I still would disagree that very few 98's go for more than $400.  I can think of a bunch of 1998's that are easily $1k or more off the top of my head - St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Boston, Dallas, Seattle, Melbourne, Las Vegas, Chicago, Indy, Knoxville, East Lansing, etc.   When it comes to 98's I think $400 is probably only going to get you a handful of the least in demand posters, such as LA or Atlanta.  And even those deals are hard to come by. 

I hope someone comes through and hooks you up for $400... that would be a really nice gesture. 

I guess here’s my point:  my thread was created to find a seller to negotiate a price.  Not to debate pricing.  I was told I’d get interest by posting a price.  I did that.  And received some indication that my price point was low.  Unless one of you has one to sell, I’m not sure what the point of pushing a price listing is?  I get it: it’s the internet and everyone’s opinion is very important but please read my initial post: it was to find someone interested in selling.  There should be no confusion about that or about how price is determined in a sale: what a buyer is willing to pay and what a seller is willing to give it for.  That typically happens in a negotiation between a seller who is interested in moving it and a buyer who wants one. It should be abundantly clear that I was not posting here to twist the arm of someone who has one but doesn’t want to sell - why would I do that?  That would only result in a higher price.  And maybe that price is fair or not, but having bought and sold lots of stuff online, I can tell you a fair price is mostly subjective.  Depends on the goals and intentions of both buyer and seller...whom I hoped this thread would find!

So yeah.  If you don’t have one to sell and your goal was to simply make a point to me about what you think my price was low, then I guess I’d wonder what the point of going out of your way was?  Maybe I am wrong, but again, if you’re not a seller, why stop and comment?  I get it - it’s the internet, but the idea that there are some sellers who really want to move this print but are waiting for the right seller to post a price is a little silly.  Which leaves me with this: the price point - whether accurate historically or not - is now, at least for buyers on this board, what you say it is.  Thanks?  But as a seller of sports memorabilia, I am very confident that two sales among many historically do not set fair market value, which is again only one factor in how an agreed upon price gets set by motivated buyer and motivated seller. I get it that you disagree.  Ultimately, if you’re not a seller, I’m not sure how interested or helpful that opinion is, lest the price points get driven up further! Lol.

So...again, anyone have one they want to sell?

Anyone got a Mickey Mantle rookie for me for $500? No rush, I can wait. 

vant0037

SHZA said:

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

OK, but if I post a price and no one responds, you guys have to sell me yours.

$400.  Hard to gauge what the true value is.  98s are always harder to find, espresso beans hasn't had a sale in a long time, the all-time average there is $433.xx.  If I'm way off base, someone can feel free to tell me (in an email negotiation over a sale preferably!), but I don't think I am.  Very few 98s go for a lot more than that.  This one historically hasn't.

I'm open to discussing if someone actually has one and wants to sell.  $400, no fees to you, and it will be hung amongst the best-framed of music and sports prints in the upper midwest!

I’m no expert but most 98s go for more than $400... you might need to be closer to double your offer to pry one loose.  Best of luck in your search... hope you get one soon.

If that’s true, I don’t know what sources people are basing that on.  Ebeans has a few high listed ones, but most simply haven’t sold that high.  I’ll pay the value for it, but I haven’t seen anything that suggests it’s significantly higher than that.  That’s all I’m getting at.  I did my homework when I picked that number; it’s it’s way off, I’m happy to be wrong.  But it’d need to see why before I double that money for a poster!

As far as sources go... recent sales here, eBay sales and as someone else already posted - Collectionzz - are all good resources.  I still would disagree that very few 98's go for more than $400.  I can think of a bunch of 1998's that are easily $1k or more off the top of my head - St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Boston, Dallas, Seattle, Melbourne, Las Vegas, Chicago, Indy, Knoxville, East Lansing, etc.   When it comes to 98's I think $400 is probably only going to get you a handful of the least in demand posters, such as LA or Atlanta.  And even those deals are hard to come by. 

I hope someone comes through and hooks you up for $400... that would be a really nice gesture. 

I guess here’s my point:  my thread was created to find a seller to negotiate a price.  Not to debate pricing.  I was told I’d get interest by posting a price.  I did that.  And received some indication that my price point was low.  Unless one of you has one to sell, I’m not sure what the point of pushing a price listing is?  I get it: it’s the internet and everyone’s opinion is very important but please read my initial post: it was to find someone interested in selling.  There should be no confusion about that or about how price is determined in a sale: what a buyer is willing to pay and what a seller is willing to give it for.  That typically happens in a negotiation between a seller who is interested in moving it and a buyer who wants one. It should be abundantly clear that I was not posting here to twist the arm of someone who has one but doesn’t want to sell - why would I do that?  That would only result in a higher price.  And maybe that price is fair or not, but having bought and sold lots of stuff online, I can tell you a fair price is mostly subjective.  Depends on the goals and intentions of both buyer and seller...whom I hoped this thread would find!

So yeah.  If you don’t have one to sell and your goal was to simply make a point to me about what you think my price was low, then I guess I’d wonder what the point of going out of your way was?  Maybe I am wrong, but again, if you’re not a seller, why stop and comment?  I get it - it’s the internet, but the idea that there are some sellers who really want to move this print but are waiting for the right seller to post a price is a little silly.  Which leaves me with this: the price point - whether accurate historically or not - is now, at least for buyers on this board, what you say it is.  Thanks?  But as a seller of sports memorabilia, I am very confident that two sales among many historically do not set fair market value, which is again only one factor in how an agreed upon price gets set by motivated buyer and motivated seller. I get it that you disagree.  Ultimately, if you’re not a seller, I’m not sure how interested or helpful that opinion is, lest the price points get driven up further! Lol.

So...again, anyone have one they want to sell?

Anyone got a Mickey Mantle rookie for me for $500? No rush, I can wait. 

Not the same thing at all but again, thanks for your help.  Good grief man.

SHZA

vant0037 said:

SHZA said:

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

OK, but if I post a price and no one responds, you guys have to sell me yours.

$400.  Hard to gauge what the true value is.  98s are always harder to find, espresso beans hasn't had a sale in a long time, the all-time average there is $433.xx.  If I'm way off base, someone can feel free to tell me (in an email negotiation over a sale preferably!), but I don't think I am.  Very few 98s go for a lot more than that.  This one historically hasn't.

I'm open to discussing if someone actually has one and wants to sell.  $400, no fees to you, and it will be hung amongst the best-framed of music and sports prints in the upper midwest!

I’m no expert but most 98s go for more than $400... you might need to be closer to double your offer to pry one loose.  Best of luck in your search... hope you get one soon.

If that’s true, I don’t know what sources people are basing that on.  Ebeans has a few high listed ones, but most simply haven’t sold that high.  I’ll pay the value for it, but I haven’t seen anything that suggests it’s significantly higher than that.  That’s all I’m getting at.  I did my homework when I picked that number; it’s it’s way off, I’m happy to be wrong.  But it’d need to see why before I double that money for a poster!

As far as sources go... recent sales here, eBay sales and as someone else already posted - Collectionzz - are all good resources.  I still would disagree that very few 98's go for more than $400.  I can think of a bunch of 1998's that are easily $1k or more off the top of my head - St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Boston, Dallas, Seattle, Melbourne, Las Vegas, Chicago, Indy, Knoxville, East Lansing, etc.   When it comes to 98's I think $400 is probably only going to get you a handful of the least in demand posters, such as LA or Atlanta.  And even those deals are hard to come by. 

I hope someone comes through and hooks you up for $400... that would be a really nice gesture. 

I guess here’s my point:  my thread was created to find a seller to negotiate a price.  Not to debate pricing.  I was told I’d get interest by posting a price.  I did that.  And received some indication that my price point was low.  Unless one of you has one to sell, I’m not sure what the point of pushing a price listing is?  I get it: it’s the internet and everyone’s opinion is very important but please read my initial post: it was to find someone interested in selling.  There should be no confusion about that or about how price is determined in a sale: what a buyer is willing to pay and what a seller is willing to give it for.  That typically happens in a negotiation between a seller who is interested in moving it and a buyer who wants one. It should be abundantly clear that I was not posting here to twist the arm of someone who has one but doesn’t want to sell - why would I do that?  That would only result in a higher price.  And maybe that price is fair or not, but having bought and sold lots of stuff online, I can tell you a fair price is mostly subjective.  Depends on the goals and intentions of both buyer and seller...whom I hoped this thread would find!

So yeah.  If you don’t have one to sell and your goal was to simply make a point to me about what you think my price was low, then I guess I’d wonder what the point of going out of your way was?  Maybe I am wrong, but again, if you’re not a seller, why stop and comment?  I get it - it’s the internet, but the idea that there are some sellers who really want to move this print but are waiting for the right seller to post a price is a little silly.  Which leaves me with this: the price point - whether accurate historically or not - is now, at least for buyers on this board, what you say it is.  Thanks?  But as a seller of sports memorabilia, I am very confident that two sales among many historically do not set fair market value, which is again only one factor in how an agreed upon price gets set by motivated buyer and motivated seller. I get it that you disagree.  Ultimately, if you’re not a seller, I’m not sure how interested or helpful that opinion is, lest the price points get driven up further! Lol.

So...again, anyone have one they want to sell?

Anyone got a Mickey Mantle rookie for me for $500? No rush, I can wait. 

Not the same thing at all but again, thanks for your help.  Good grief man.

If people ignore my unrealistic price because they don't have one to sell and don't want to let me know I'm way off, that doesn't help me reach my goal of finding a Mantle. If people let me know that I might want to rethink my offer because one sold last week for $5 million, it's true that it doesn't help me reach my goal of obtaining a Mantle for $500, but it would be helpful to form a more realistic idea of what it will likely cost me if I'm a serious buyer. 

vant0037

SHZA said:

vant0037 said:

SHZA said:

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

OK, but if I post a price and no one responds, you guys have to sell me yours.

$400.  Hard to gauge what the true value is.  98s are always harder to find, espresso beans hasn't had a sale in a long time, the all-time average there is $433.xx.  If I'm way off base, someone can feel free to tell me (in an email negotiation over a sale preferably!), but I don't think I am.  Very few 98s go for a lot more than that.  This one historically hasn't.

I'm open to discussing if someone actually has one and wants to sell.  $400, no fees to you, and it will be hung amongst the best-framed of music and sports prints in the upper midwest!

I’m no expert but most 98s go for more than $400... you might need to be closer to double your offer to pry one loose.  Best of luck in your search... hope you get one soon.

If that’s true, I don’t know what sources people are basing that on.  Ebeans has a few high listed ones, but most simply haven’t sold that high.  I’ll pay the value for it, but I haven’t seen anything that suggests it’s significantly higher than that.  That’s all I’m getting at.  I did my homework when I picked that number; it’s it’s way off, I’m happy to be wrong.  But it’d need to see why before I double that money for a poster!

As far as sources go... recent sales here, eBay sales and as someone else already posted - Collectionzz - are all good resources.  I still would disagree that very few 98's go for more than $400.  I can think of a bunch of 1998's that are easily $1k or more off the top of my head - St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Boston, Dallas, Seattle, Melbourne, Las Vegas, Chicago, Indy, Knoxville, East Lansing, etc.   When it comes to 98's I think $400 is probably only going to get you a handful of the least in demand posters, such as LA or Atlanta.  And even those deals are hard to come by. 

I hope someone comes through and hooks you up for $400... that would be a really nice gesture. 

I guess here’s my point:  my thread was created to find a seller to negotiate a price.  Not to debate pricing.  I was told I’d get interest by posting a price.  I did that.  And received some indication that my price point was low.  Unless one of you has one to sell, I’m not sure what the point of pushing a price listing is?  I get it: it’s the internet and everyone’s opinion is very important but please read my initial post: it was to find someone interested in selling.  There should be no confusion about that or about how price is determined in a sale: what a buyer is willing to pay and what a seller is willing to give it for.  That typically happens in a negotiation between a seller who is interested in moving it and a buyer who wants one. It should be abundantly clear that I was not posting here to twist the arm of someone who has one but doesn’t want to sell - why would I do that?  That would only result in a higher price.  And maybe that price is fair or not, but having bought and sold lots of stuff online, I can tell you a fair price is mostly subjective.  Depends on the goals and intentions of both buyer and seller...whom I hoped this thread would find!

So yeah.  If you don’t have one to sell and your goal was to simply make a point to me about what you think my price was low, then I guess I’d wonder what the point of going out of your way was?  Maybe I am wrong, but again, if you’re not a seller, why stop and comment?  I get it - it’s the internet, but the idea that there are some sellers who really want to move this print but are waiting for the right seller to post a price is a little silly.  Which leaves me with this: the price point - whether accurate historically or not - is now, at least for buyers on this board, what you say it is.  Thanks?  But as a seller of sports memorabilia, I am very confident that two sales among many historically do not set fair market value, which is again only one factor in how an agreed upon price gets set by motivated buyer and motivated seller. I get it that you disagree.  Ultimately, if you’re not a seller, I’m not sure how interested or helpful that opinion is, lest the price points get driven up further! Lol.

So...again, anyone have one they want to sell?

Anyone got a Mickey Mantle rookie for me for $500? No rush, I can wait. 

Not the same thing at all but again, thanks for your help.  Good grief man.

If people ignore my unrealistic price because they don't have one to sell and don't want to let me know I'm way off, that doesn't help me reach my goal of finding a Mantle. If people let me know that I might want to rethink my offer because one sold last week for $5 million, it's true that it doesn't help me reach my goal of obtaining a Mantle for $500, but it would be helpful to form a more realistic idea of what it will likely cost me if I'm a serious buyer. 

Where in my post did I ask for help?  I asked for a seller.

SHZA

vant0037 said:

SHZA said:

vant0037 said:

SHZA said:

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

vant0037 said:

OK, but if I post a price and no one responds, you guys have to sell me yours.

$400.  Hard to gauge what the true value is.  98s are always harder to find, espresso beans hasn't had a sale in a long time, the all-time average there is $433.xx.  If I'm way off base, someone can feel free to tell me (in an email negotiation over a sale preferably!), but I don't think I am.  Very few 98s go for a lot more than that.  This one historically hasn't.

I'm open to discussing if someone actually has one and wants to sell.  $400, no fees to you, and it will be hung amongst the best-framed of music and sports prints in the upper midwest!

I’m no expert but most 98s go for more than $400... you might need to be closer to double your offer to pry one loose.  Best of luck in your search... hope you get one soon.

If that’s true, I don’t know what sources people are basing that on.  Ebeans has a few high listed ones, but most simply haven’t sold that high.  I’ll pay the value for it, but I haven’t seen anything that suggests it’s significantly higher than that.  That’s all I’m getting at.  I did my homework when I picked that number; it’s it’s way off, I’m happy to be wrong.  But it’d need to see why before I double that money for a poster!

As far as sources go... recent sales here, eBay sales and as someone else already posted - Collectionzz - are all good resources.  I still would disagree that very few 98's go for more than $400.  I can think of a bunch of 1998's that are easily $1k or more off the top of my head - St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Boston, Dallas, Seattle, Melbourne, Las Vegas, Chicago, Indy, Knoxville, East Lansing, etc.   When it comes to 98's I think $400 is probably only going to get you a handful of the least in demand posters, such as LA or Atlanta.  And even those deals are hard to come by. 

I hope someone comes through and hooks you up for $400... that would be a really nice gesture. 

I guess here’s my point:  my thread was created to find a seller to negotiate a price.  Not to debate pricing.  I was told I’d get interest by posting a price.  I did that.  And received some indication that my price point was low.  Unless one of you has one to sell, I’m not sure what the point of pushing a price listing is?  I get it: it’s the internet and everyone’s opinion is very important but please read my initial post: it was to find someone interested in selling.  There should be no confusion about that or about how price is determined in a sale: what a buyer is willing to pay and what a seller is willing to give it for.  That typically happens in a negotiation between a seller who is interested in moving it and a buyer who wants one. It should be abundantly clear that I was not posting here to twist the arm of someone who has one but doesn’t want to sell - why would I do that?  That would only result in a higher price.  And maybe that price is fair or not, but having bought and sold lots of stuff online, I can tell you a fair price is mostly subjective.  Depends on the goals and intentions of both buyer and seller...whom I hoped this thread would find!

So yeah.  If you don’t have one to sell and your goal was to simply make a point to me about what you think my price was low, then I guess I’d wonder what the point of going out of your way was?  Maybe I am wrong, but again, if you’re not a seller, why stop and comment?  I get it - it’s the internet, but the idea that there are some sellers who really want to move this print but are waiting for the right seller to post a price is a little silly.  Which leaves me with this: the price point - whether accurate historically or not - is now, at least for buyers on this board, what you say it is.  Thanks?  But as a seller of sports memorabilia, I am very confident that two sales among many historically do not set fair market value, which is again only one factor in how an agreed upon price gets set by motivated buyer and motivated seller. I get it that you disagree.  Ultimately, if you’re not a seller, I’m not sure how interested or helpful that opinion is, lest the price points get driven up further! Lol.

So...again, anyone have one they want to sell?

Anyone got a Mickey Mantle rookie for me for $500? No rush, I can wait. 

Not the same thing at all but again, thanks for your help.  Good grief man.

If people ignore my unrealistic price because they don't have one to sell and don't want to let me know I'm way off, that doesn't help me reach my goal of finding a Mantle. If people let me know that I might want to rethink my offer because one sold last week for $5 million, it's true that it doesn't help me reach my goal of obtaining a Mantle for $500, but it would be helpful to form a more realistic idea of what it will likely cost me if I'm a serious buyer. 

Where in my post did I ask for help?  I asked for a seller.

Several of your above posts are debating whether something is helpful. And you asked for price sources. 

vant0037

Do you have one to sell?

jpdannabelle

If you're not in a hurry I'd wait for one to come up for sale. Keep an eye on ebay and this forum, maybe facebook or whatever. In my experience trying to get someone to sell something they never had intentions to would usually require an enticing dollar value. Drop a g-note figure and I'll bet you'd get someone's attention. You could probably score this one for around $600 if you're patient. $400 would be a real score. Good luck!

on2legs

You actually posted this here:

vant0037 said:

If I'm way off base, someone can feel free to tell me

No one is really nitpicking your price over a couple of bucks... just giving you a heads up that your offer is like 60% below recent sales and responding to your declaration that very few 98s sell for more than $400.  You opened the door to the discussion... don't shoot the messengers. 

DRintheHouse

I suggested you post a price, because there are people out there like me that have one - but don't want to engage and negotiate every time someone posts an ISO for something in my collection.  As suspected, we'd not be anywhere close on price.  There were a couple ebay sales over the past few years not registering on EB.  I recall BIN's for $1200 and $1600 that sold immediately, and another ebay listing that was taken down and sold privately for $1600.

jpdannabelle

DRintheHouse said:

I suggested you post a price, because there are people out there like me that have one - but don't want to engage and negotiate every time someone posts an ISO for something in my collection.  As suspected, we'd not be anywhere close on price.  There were a couple ebay sales over the past few years not registering on EB.  I recall BIN's for $1200 and $1600 that sold immediately, and another ebay listing that was taken down and sold privately for $1600.

I guess I was way off with $600 lol. The 98’s are the most coveted. They’ll just keep increasing in value. I think it’s one of those cases where back then most people didn’t care about buying them at the show and the one’s that did probably didn’t take good care of them. The remaining few in mint condition will keep going up in price for sure. 

Dirty Frank Z

Vant is pretty well versed in how all of this works.

Having dealt with him directly and indirectly. The tips or lectures are sort of wasted.

The man is just looking for someone interested in selling a poster. even if that interest is minimal.

Are you out there? He's willing and able (and knows full well how to) to work with a seller! 

Also, has anyone ever seen ANY show about buying and selling....you start low....and high.....and work towards the middle.......right?

vant0037

DRintheHouse said:

I suggested you post a price, because there are people out there like me that have one - but don't want to engage and negotiate every time someone posts an ISO for something in my collection.  As suspected, we'd not be anywhere close on price.  There were a couple ebay sales over the past few years not registering on EB.  I recall BIN's for $1200 and $1600 that sold immediately, and another ebay listing that was taken down and sold privately for $1600.

Fair enough, but as a buyer, I'd rather have the conversation with a seller individually - like most sales of collectibles happen.  That's why I didn't post a price.

I don't think $400 is unreasonable, because the only available objective evidence for sales is the Ebeans stuff (which historically average is $433.xx) + a couple of much higher prices more recently.  Anecdotally, you believe you've got something worth more than $400 based on unlisted Ebay sales.  I get it, but its not a factor I consider unless I can confirm it myself.   I don't think that alone sets market value, because as any seller knows, what you have is only valued by what someone will pay for it.  If you're actively trying to sell it and can get more than $400, that's its value then.  If you're not actively trying to sell it, it does me zero good to try to entice you by posting a price I don't want to pay.  In short, the fair price is what a buyer and seller agree it is, which is why I wanted to find a seller first and go from there.  I understand there's an argument against that.  But having people without a dog in the fight jump in with opinions isn't helpful, because price can be so subjective.

I appreciate the insight.  Let me know if you truly want to discuss some number.  If not, I get it.  Thanks

vant0037

on2legs said:

You actually posted this here:

vant0037 said:

If I'm way off base, someone can feel free to tell me

No one is really nitpicking your price over a couple of bucks... just giving you a heads up that your offer is like 60% below recent sales and responding to your declaration that very few 98s sell for more than $400.  You opened the door to the discussion... don't shoot the messengers. 

You are correct; I posted that...after I was asked to post a price.  That's a pretty odd expectation for a buyer of a collectible item.  I am looking for a willing seller; not trying to convince a seller to give it to me.  That's sort of like an auction for the seller.  As a buyer, I want to know if one's for sale and what they would sell it for.  I'm not lobbying a seller to give it to me.  Sellers can go to an auction if they want to nitpick price.

I didn't think it would spin into a mostly-anecdotal discussion about what the price should be.  That's fine; we can disagree about what the vast majority of them have sold for.  My frustration is the advice about posting a price and subsequent discussion appears to be mostly from people who didn't have one to sell, which was my whole goal in the first place, (finding a seller).

Anything, thanks for the discussion I guess.

on2legs

Dirty Frank Z said:

Vant is pretty well versed in how all of this works.

Having dealt with him directly and indirectly. The tips or lectures are sort of wasted.

The man is just looking for someone interested in selling a poster. even if that interest is minimal.

Are you out there? He's willing and able (and knows full well how to) to work with a seller! 

Also, has anyone ever seen ANY show about buying and selling....you start low....and high.....and work towards the middle.......right?

Where are you guys shopping for these $400 98s?  I need to shop where you guys shop. 

100 Pacer

jpdannabelle said:

If you're not in a hurry I'd wait for one to come up for sale. Keep an eye on ebay and this forum, maybe facebook or whatever. In my experience trying to get someone to sell something they never had intentions to would usually require an enticing dollar value. Drop a g-note figure and I'll bet you'd get someone's attention. You could probably score this one for around $600 if you're patient. $400 would be a real score. Good luck!

I’ll echo this advice. I wasn’t in the market for it but right place, right time on a Friday randomly searching eBay: picked this one up for $75 in 2013.

vant0037

on2legs said:

Dirty Frank Z said:

Vant is pretty well versed in how all of this works.

Having dealt with him directly and indirectly. The tips or lectures are sort of wasted.

The man is just looking for someone interested in selling a poster. even if that interest is minimal.

Are you out there? He's willing and able (and knows full well how to) to work with a seller! 

Also, has anyone ever seen ANY show about buying and selling....you start low....and high.....and work towards the middle.......right?

Where are you guys shopping for these $400 98s?  I need to shop where you guys shop. 

If the point is just to win some argument, please stop.  Seriously.

on2legs

vant0037 said:

on2legs said:

Dirty Frank Z said:

Vant is pretty well versed in how all of this works.

Having dealt with him directly and indirectly. The tips or lectures are sort of wasted.

The man is just looking for someone interested in selling a poster. even if that interest is minimal.

Are you out there? He's willing and able (and knows full well how to) to work with a seller! 

Also, has anyone ever seen ANY show about buying and selling....you start low....and high.....and work towards the middle.......right?

Where are you guys shopping for these $400 98s?  I need to shop where you guys shop. 

If the point is just to win some argument, please stop.  Seriously.

No argument here.  This a forum where posters are bought and sold everyday. You posted misleading information multiple times that most 98 posters do not sell for more than $400.  It’s a little unrealistic for you to expect that there wouldn’t be a discussion about current values contrary to what you posted.  With that being said... I really hope you find your ISO and that you get it for $400.