Marjorie Taylor Greene

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,935
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Michael Che referred to her as Cocaine Bear this past weekend. hahaha
    That's an insult to Cocaine Bear, who I view as an American hero after watching the movie.
    Did you go see it?  How was it?  Looks hilarious to me, like a Shaun of the Dead.  Maybe it wasn't supposed to be hilarious. 
    I saw it this weekend.
    Found it highly entertaining. And Shaun of the Dead is a good comp in terms of the style, dark humor. Definitely humor is intended.

    And to those going to see it, pay attention to the billboard next to the roadside pay phone. It shows up twice when 2 different characters stop to make a phone call, they don't show it very long so it's a blink and you miss it thing, but I found it rather funny.

    Glad you enjoyed it. I was totally disappointed by it. I didn't think it was very funny or entertaining. I also had high hopes because of Elizabeth Banks, but it really didn't do it for me or the friend I went with... and we were even at a VIP theatre, drinking our faces off at the time. Still not very funny. Maybe we needed to do some coke for it to resonate, LOL.
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  • Poncier said:
    I've done the movies solo twice. First time was to see The Dark Knight Rises before it left theaters. Kid was young, and we tried to use our opportunities for babysitters for bigger events than movies, so I bailed a bit early from work and caught a matinee because I wanted to see it on the big screen. Other time was not really a solo trip, went to the movies with wife and kid who was 14 at the time. I wanted to see Joker, we thought it might be too violent for him (turns out it really wasn't) so I went into one theater and saw Joker while wife and son went into adjacent theater and saw The Addams Family.

    As for concerts. I've gone solo a number of times. One major positive about going solo is you can often find a great single ticket. I've scored some incredible seats that way including front row day of show for Smashing Pumpkins in 2018.

    I pulled a 2nd row single for Primus, 10th & 12th row singles for Tool, 5th row for APC. Those were incredible concert experiences I would have missed out on if I was hung up on not going alone. 
    I've honestly even gotten to the point where I don't even ASK friends to go a show once it's announced. saves the bullshit back and forth "it's on a wednesday? I don't knowwwww" or "oh, you want floor, it's standing only? I need a seat". FUCK THAT. I've been going to shows alone for several years now. almost all the shows I go to have at least floor general admission, so if someone wants to join me after I've already bought a ticket, fine. if not, fine. I go when I want, leave when I want, maybe see some people I know there and I'm not tied to anyone. 

    as you said, when there have been assigned seats, I've gotten front centre where I never have going with others. and it's quite an experience. 

    big arena shows or stadium shows I'll go with my wife, if we're both interested. but not many these days that come here/I'm into. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,059
    Poncier said:
    I've done the movies solo twice. First time was to see The Dark Knight Rises before it left theaters. Kid was young, and we tried to use our opportunities for babysitters for bigger events than movies, so I bailed a bit early from work and caught a matinee because I wanted to see it on the big screen. Other time was not really a solo trip, went to the movies with wife and kid who was 14 at the time. I wanted to see Joker, we thought it might be too violent for him (turns out it really wasn't) so I went into one theater and saw Joker while wife and son went into adjacent theater and saw The Addams Family.

    As for concerts. I've gone solo a number of times. One major positive about going solo is you can often find a great single ticket. I've scored some incredible seats that way including front row day of show for Smashing Pumpkins in 2018.

    I pulled a 2nd row single for Primus, 10th & 12th row singles for Tool, 5th row for APC. Those were incredible concert experiences I would have missed out on if I was hung up on not going alone. 
    I've honestly even gotten to the point where I don't even ASK friends to go a show once it's announced. saves the bullshit back and forth "it's on a wednesday? I don't knowwwww" or "oh, you want floor, it's standing only? I need a seat". FUCK THAT. I've been going to shows alone for several years now. almost all the shows I go to have at least floor general admission, so if someone wants to join me after I've already bought a ticket, fine. if not, fine. I go when I want, leave when I want, maybe see some people I know there and I'm not tied to anyone. 

    as you said, when there have been assigned seats, I've gotten front centre where I never have going with others. and it's quite an experience. 

    big arena shows or stadium shows I'll go with my wife, if we're both interested. but not many these days that come here/I'm into. 
    Exactly my take. We have a decent sized (8-9k) all GA outdoor venue that gets pretty big names. My friends know I’m going early (5:00ish) to get rail and they’re welcome to join, but most want to dick around and show up 10 minutes before the headliner. They act like it’s the equivalent of a 20 mile run going as early as I do.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,465
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,935
    Poncier said:
    I've done the movies solo twice. First time was to see The Dark Knight Rises before it left theaters. Kid was young, and we tried to use our opportunities for babysitters for bigger events than movies, so I bailed a bit early from work and caught a matinee because I wanted to see it on the big screen. Other time was not really a solo trip, went to the movies with wife and kid who was 14 at the time. I wanted to see Joker, we thought it might be too violent for him (turns out it really wasn't) so I went into one theater and saw Joker while wife and son went into adjacent theater and saw The Addams Family.

    As for concerts. I've gone solo a number of times. One major positive about going solo is you can often find a great single ticket. I've scored some incredible seats that way including front row day of show for Smashing Pumpkins in 2018.

    I pulled a 2nd row single for Primus, 10th & 12th row singles for Tool, 5th row for APC. Those were incredible concert experiences I would have missed out on if I was hung up on not going alone. 
    I've honestly even gotten to the point where I don't even ASK friends to go a show once it's announced. saves the bullshit back and forth "it's on a wednesday? I don't knowwwww" or "oh, you want floor, it's standing only? I need a seat". FUCK THAT. I've been going to shows alone for several years now. almost all the shows I go to have at least floor general admission, so if someone wants to join me after I've already bought a ticket, fine. if not, fine. I go when I want, leave when I want, maybe see some people I know there and I'm not tied to anyone. 

    as you said, when there have been assigned seats, I've gotten front centre where I never have going with others. and it's quite an experience. 

    big arena shows or stadium shows I'll go with my wife, if we're both interested. but not many these days that come here/I'm into. 

    100% to all of this. Going alone and buying single tix is just smarter, lol. I find myself in a pickle sometimes, like when a show I'm really excited about is announced and then a friend actually says to me "we should go to that", I'm like, ummmmm, yeeeaaaahhhhhh. Haha. Although in small venues I'm okay with wherever, so I can save those for tix with friends. Like the wonderful Commodore - I actually prefer the balcony at a table to the floor there, because the sound and view is so damn good there anyway, plus my friends love it.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,744
    mickeyrat said:
    Fucking hypocrites claiming to be "christians" and the worst part is that their base laps it all up and loves them and their "christian"-based fear, hate, and ignorance.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,948
    mickeyrat said:
    Fucking hypocrites claiming to be "christians" and the worst part is that their base laps it all up and loves them and their "christian"-based fear, hate, and ignorance.
    Its the repub party and their identity since Newt the Beaut.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,416
    mickeyrat said:
    Fucking hypocrites claiming to be "christians" and the worst part is that their base laps it all up and loves them and their "christian"-based fear, hate, and ignorance.
    There's no such thing as hypocrisy for people with a supremacist mindset.

    They simply believe the rules for the masses don't apply to them. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,744
    mickeyrat said:
    Fucking hypocrites claiming to be "christians" and the worst part is that their base laps it all up and loves them and their "christian"-based fear, hate, and ignorance.
    There's no such thing as hypocrisy for people with a supremacist mindset.

    They simply believe the rules for the masses don't apply to them. 
    Truth


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,948
    mickeyrat said:
    Fucking hypocrites claiming to be "christians" and the worst part is that their base laps it all up and loves them and their "christian"-based fear, hate, and ignorance.
    There's no such thing as hypocrisy for people with a supremacist mindset.

    They simply believe the rules for the masses don't apply to them. 
    Truth


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  • PJ_Soul said:
    Poncier said:
    I've done the movies solo twice. First time was to see The Dark Knight Rises before it left theaters. Kid was young, and we tried to use our opportunities for babysitters for bigger events than movies, so I bailed a bit early from work and caught a matinee because I wanted to see it on the big screen. Other time was not really a solo trip, went to the movies with wife and kid who was 14 at the time. I wanted to see Joker, we thought it might be too violent for him (turns out it really wasn't) so I went into one theater and saw Joker while wife and son went into adjacent theater and saw The Addams Family.

    As for concerts. I've gone solo a number of times. One major positive about going solo is you can often find a great single ticket. I've scored some incredible seats that way including front row day of show for Smashing Pumpkins in 2018.

    I pulled a 2nd row single for Primus, 10th & 12th row singles for Tool, 5th row for APC. Those were incredible concert experiences I would have missed out on if I was hung up on not going alone. 
    I've honestly even gotten to the point where I don't even ASK friends to go a show once it's announced. saves the bullshit back and forth "it's on a wednesday? I don't knowwwww" or "oh, you want floor, it's standing only? I need a seat". FUCK THAT. I've been going to shows alone for several years now. almost all the shows I go to have at least floor general admission, so if someone wants to join me after I've already bought a ticket, fine. if not, fine. I go when I want, leave when I want, maybe see some people I know there and I'm not tied to anyone. 

    as you said, when there have been assigned seats, I've gotten front centre where I never have going with others. and it's quite an experience. 

    big arena shows or stadium shows I'll go with my wife, if we're both interested. but not many these days that come here/I'm into. 

    100% to all of this. Going alone and buying single tix is just smarter, lol. I find myself in a pickle sometimes, like when a show I'm really excited about is announced and then a friend actually says to me "we should go to that", I'm like, ummmmm, yeeeaaaahhhhhh. Haha. Although in small venues I'm okay with wherever, so I can save those for tix with friends. Like the wonderful Commodore - I actually prefer the balcony at a table to the floor there, because the sound and view is so damn good there anyway, plus my friends love it.
    I absolutely HAVE to see a show at the Commodore at some point. I've heard it's quite the room. 
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  • treestrees Posts: 1,868
    mickeyrat said:
    Fucking hypocrites claiming to be "christians" and the worst part is that their base laps it all up and loves them and their "christian"-based fear, hate, and ignorance.
    There's no such thing as hypocrisy for people with a supremacist mindset.

    They simply believe the rules for the masses don't apply to them. 
    Truth


    Right on .Liz 


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,465
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    So that’s how it works. Who knew?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,946


    What's she going to tell us next is that the earth spins so fast that the carbon in the atmosphere, which is heavier than air, is all shooting out into space and has no affect of global warming whatsoever.  Right, Marjorie, riiiiiiiiiiiight!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,948
    You go girl!

    Marjorie Taylor Greene fires back at Lindsey Graham by posting Photoshopped pic of senator hoisting a Bud Light with trans influencer’s image

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,946
    I really like reading the UK on-line news, The Guardian, but I've also been feeling a bit irked by them lately.  Nearly every day now, their front page has an article about and photo of Margarine Trailor Green. Let's see if that's true today...

    Ahhhhhh huh!  Just as I thought.
    So partially in their defense, Greenie does make a lot of rattling noise that draws attention.  She likes to stir the cesspool.  But on the other hand, I wouldn't mind AT ALL seeing less of that... well, you know...

    And I would so much rather see a photo of a margarine and green trailer instead.  Ya know?
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    ^
    As horrendous as she is, the more attention she draws to herself, it's like free advertising for the democratic party. 
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    ^
    As horrendous as she is, the more attention she draws to herself, it's like free advertising for the democratic party. 
    From what I can wrap my head around, I observe five major voting cohorts:

    1. Trumpist: Pro-Trump
    2. Will-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican, Trump-tolerant, anti-Democrat
    3. Won't-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican/anti-Democrat
    4. Will-hear-you-out democrat: Pro-Democrat, anti-Trump, anti-Republican
    5. Won't hear you out democrat: Pro-liberal, Democrat-tolerant, anti-Republican

    I don't envision any changes for Cohorts 1, 3, 4, or 5, and I'm unconvinced that given the degradation of the Republican party over the past decade, this will have any impact whatsoever. Even the partisan divides now have partisan divides, and no one wants to engage with different opinions, nor to risk being proven wrong.



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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,948
    benjs said:
    ^
    As horrendous as she is, the more attention she draws to herself, it's like free advertising for the democratic party. 
    From what I can wrap my head around, I observe five major voting cohorts:

    1. Trumpist: Pro-Trump
    2. Will-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican, Trump-tolerant, anti-Democrat
    3. Won't-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican/anti-Democrat
    4. Will-hear-you-out democrat: Pro-Democrat, anti-Trump, anti-Republican
    5. Won't hear you out democrat: Pro-liberal, Democrat-tolerant, anti-Republican

    I don't envision any changes for Cohorts 1, 3, 4, or 5, and I'm unconvinced that given the degradation of the Republican party over the past decade, this will have any impact whatsoever. Even the partisan divides now have partisan divides, and no one wants to engage with different opinions, nor to risk being proven wrong.



    Currently, there’s nothing this repub party represents that I want to “hear out.” It is a party dominated by white evangelical supremacists who only want to be misogynistic, racist and anti-woke, whatever that means, LGBQT. They are hateful with absolutely no reasonable policy solutions for any of our most pressing problems. About the only thing I have in common with members of the current repub party and their voters is the color of my blood and a passport, if they have one. Sad.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,608
    benjs said:
    ^
    As horrendous as she is, the more attention she draws to herself, it's like free advertising for the democratic party. 
    From what I can wrap my head around, I observe five major voting cohorts:

    1. Trumpist: Pro-Trump
    2. Will-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican, Trump-tolerant, anti-Democrat
    3. Won't-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican/anti-Democrat
    4. Will-hear-you-out democrat: Pro-Democrat, anti-Trump, anti-Republican
    5. Won't hear you out democrat: Pro-liberal, Democrat-tolerant, anti-Republican

    I don't envision any changes for Cohorts 1, 3, 4, or 5, and I'm unconvinced that given the degradation of the Republican party over the past decade, this will have any impact whatsoever. Even the partisan divides now have partisan divides, and no one wants to engage with different opinions, nor to risk being proven wrong.



    I think you're forgetting actual swing voters.  They truly don't align with either party and are politically ambivalent.  Many of them have issues that matter to them, but they could be on either side of the aisle.  Further, they may not be likely to vote in mid terms or special elections.  So winning the EV at the state level can hinge on getting them to the polls on one of the issues that matter to them. Be it crime, abortion, gay marriage, etc.  I think elections swing on turnout of those people, plus the #2 and #4 above. 
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,129
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    ^
    As horrendous as she is, the more attention she draws to herself, it's like free advertising for the democratic party. 
    From what I can wrap my head around, I observe five major voting cohorts:

    1. Trumpist: Pro-Trump
    2. Will-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican, Trump-tolerant, anti-Democrat
    3. Won't-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican/anti-Democrat
    4. Will-hear-you-out democrat: Pro-Democrat, anti-Trump, anti-Republican
    5. Won't hear you out democrat: Pro-liberal, Democrat-tolerant, anti-Republican

    I don't envision any changes for Cohorts 1, 3, 4, or 5, and I'm unconvinced that given the degradation of the Republican party over the past decade, this will have any impact whatsoever. Even the partisan divides now have partisan divides, and no one wants to engage with different opinions, nor to risk being proven wrong.



    I think you're forgetting actual swing voters.  They truly don't align with either party and are politically ambivalent.  Many of them have issues that matter to them, but they could be on either side of the aisle.  Further, they may not be likely to vote in mid terms or special elections.  So winning the EV at the state level can hinge on getting them to the polls on one of the issues that matter to them. Be it crime, abortion, gay marriage, etc.  I think elections swing on turnout of those people, plus the #2 and #4 above. 
    Good point! And is it fair to say that third-party voters are immaterial statistically?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,608
    benjs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    ^
    As horrendous as she is, the more attention she draws to herself, it's like free advertising for the democratic party. 
    From what I can wrap my head around, I observe five major voting cohorts:

    1. Trumpist: Pro-Trump
    2. Will-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican, Trump-tolerant, anti-Democrat
    3. Won't-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican/anti-Democrat
    4. Will-hear-you-out democrat: Pro-Democrat, anti-Trump, anti-Republican
    5. Won't hear you out democrat: Pro-liberal, Democrat-tolerant, anti-Republican

    I don't envision any changes for Cohorts 1, 3, 4, or 5, and I'm unconvinced that given the degradation of the Republican party over the past decade, this will have any impact whatsoever. Even the partisan divides now have partisan divides, and no one wants to engage with different opinions, nor to risk being proven wrong.



    I think you're forgetting actual swing voters.  They truly don't align with either party and are politically ambivalent.  Many of them have issues that matter to them, but they could be on either side of the aisle.  Further, they may not be likely to vote in mid terms or special elections.  So winning the EV at the state level can hinge on getting them to the polls on one of the issues that matter to them. Be it crime, abortion, gay marriage, etc.  I think elections swing on turnout of those people, plus the #2 and #4 above. 
    Good point! And is it fair to say that third-party voters are immaterial statistically?
    I don't think we've seen a state be lost to that since 2000 when Nader took about 100k votes. You have to believe the vast majority were Gore voters. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,465
    benjs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    ^
    As horrendous as she is, the more attention she draws to herself, it's like free advertising for the democratic party. 
    From what I can wrap my head around, I observe five major voting cohorts:

    1. Trumpist: Pro-Trump
    2. Will-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican, Trump-tolerant, anti-Democrat
    3. Won't-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican/anti-Democrat
    4. Will-hear-you-out democrat: Pro-Democrat, anti-Trump, anti-Republican
    5. Won't hear you out democrat: Pro-liberal, Democrat-tolerant, anti-Republican

    I don't envision any changes for Cohorts 1, 3, 4, or 5, and I'm unconvinced that given the degradation of the Republican party over the past decade, this will have any impact whatsoever. Even the partisan divides now have partisan divides, and no one wants to engage with different opinions, nor to risk being proven wrong.



    I think you're forgetting actual swing voters.  They truly don't align with either party and are politically ambivalent.  Many of them have issues that matter to them, but they could be on either side of the aisle.  Further, they may not be likely to vote in mid terms or special elections.  So winning the EV at the state level can hinge on getting them to the polls on one of the issues that matter to them. Be it crime, abortion, gay marriage, etc.  I think elections swing on turnout of those people, plus the #2 and #4 above. 
    Good point! And is it fair to say that third-party voters are immaterial statistically?

    no. if steins voters pulled for clinton instead 2016 looks different
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,744
    brianlux said:
    I really like reading the UK on-line news, The Guardian, but I've also been feeling a bit irked by them lately.  Nearly every day now, their front page has an article about and photo of Margarine Trailor Green. Let's see if that's true today...

    Ahhhhhh huh!  Just as I thought.
    So partially in their defense, Greenie does make a lot of rattling noise that draws attention.  She likes to stir the cesspool.  But on the other hand, I wouldn't mind AT ALL seeing less of that... well, you know...

    And I would so much rather see a photo of a margarine and green trailer instead.  Ya know?
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,341
    brianlux said:


    What's she going to tell us next is that the earth spins so fast that the carbon in the atmosphere, which is heavier than air, is all shooting out into space and has no affect of global warming whatsoever.  Right, Marjorie, riiiiiiiiiiiight!
    Exactly, it's a giant centrifuge. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,946
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:


    What's she going to tell us next is that the earth spins so fast that the carbon in the atmosphere, which is heavier than air, is all shooting out into space and has no affect of global warming whatsoever.  Right, Marjorie, riiiiiiiiiiiight!
    Exactly, it's a giant centrifuge. 

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    It's a wonder, tall trees ain't layin' down.
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