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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 32,760
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
     Biden’s choice of Ron Klain to run White House signals rejection of Trump-era chaos
    By Michael Schere


    President-elect Joe Biden has chosen longtime Washington operative Ronald A. Klain as White House chief of staff, sending an early signal that he intends to rely heavily on experience, competence and political agility after a Trump presidency that prized flashiness and personality.
    Klain, 59, has been a senior adviser to Democratic presidents, vice presidents, candidates and senators. His appointment marks a homecoming of sorts, since Klain served in the late 1980s as a top aide to Biden when he was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and ran Biden’s office when he first became vice president.
    “Ron has been invaluable to me over the many years that we have worked together, including as we rescued the American economy from one of the worst downturns in our history in 2009 and later overcame a daunting public health emergency in 2014,” Biden said in a statement. “His deep, varied experience and capacity to work with people all across the political spectrum is precisely what I need in a White House chief of staff as we confront this moment of crisis and bring our country together again.”
    A strategist with a legal mind and political ear, Klain is the sort of behind-the-scenes Washington hand more common in decades past, an operative who has managed everything from an Ebola outbreak to candidate debates to judicial confirmations.
    “This town is brimming with smart people and high school valedictorians,” said Jared Bernstein, an economic adviser to Biden when he was vice president. “Ron brings something extra to the table, which is an ability to quickly process complex, conflicting streams of information and zero in on the optimal solution.”
    Often called the second-hardest gig in Washington, the White House chief of staff holds what is traditionally the most important unelected position in government not subject to a Senate confirmation — the person who must wake the president in a crisis and decide who gets to be in the room to shape his views.
    The job has often gone to the most talented advisers in both parties — people such as Republican James Baker and Democrat Leon Panetta. Under President Trump, however, the role of the chief of staff has shifted, with the position falling to officials with strained relations and limited sway with Trump. Bucking convention, Trump’s son-in-law, White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, established an independent locus of power inside the West Wing.
    Choosing Klain reflects Biden’s plan to move beyond that chaos-driven presidency. The internal White House structure probably will revert to form, with a single manager in charge surrounded by senior officials who also have direct relationships with the president. Mike Donilon, who helped write Biden’s campaign strategy, and Steve Ricchetti, the campaign chairman, are well positioned to land influential positions inside the White House, according to people with knowledge of the internal dynamics who spoke on the condition of anonymity to recount private conversations.
    Other top campaign advisers, including Anita Dunn, a former White House communications director, and her husband, former White House counsel Bob Bauer, are expected to stay out of government this time around.
    Many in Biden’s orbit have long seen Klain as the most obvious pick for chief of staff after more than 30 years of background roles. After a falling-out with Biden’s team when he offered early support to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential bid, Klain has worked his way back into the upper echelons of Biden’s trusted circle.
    He consulted with Biden on general strategy even before the former vice president announced his presidential campaign last year, and since August he has served as an unpaid senior adviser to the campaign and led Biden’s extensive debate preparation.
    “He is the logical choice and brings the complete package — universally acknowledged ability, a broad range of experience, chemistry with the president-elect — and he is a strategic thinker that brings results,” said Pete Rouse, who was a top aide to President Barack Obama.
    At times Klain appears to have worked with every Democratic leader of the past three decades. As counsel to the Judiciary Committee, Klain advised then-Sen. Biden during Clarence Thomas’s volatile Supreme Court confirmation hearings. He worked in the Bill Clinton White House to confirm Ruth Bader Ginsburg to the Supreme Court, served as chief of staff to Attorney General Janet Reno and was a top policy aide to Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.).
    Klain also served as chief of staff to Vice President Al Gore and led Gore’s legal efforts to force a recount of Florida ballots after the 2000 election; actor Kevin Spacey played him in the 2008 movie “Recount.”
    “People frequently tell me that I should ‘get over’ the 2000 election and the recount,” Klain tweeted in 2019. “I haven’t, and I don’t think I ever will.”
    Along the way, Klain has developed a specialized role as the Democrats’ preeminent coach for presidential debates. He worked on debate preparations for Bill Clinton in 1992 and Gore in 2000, and he has led the debate prep for every Democratic nominee since — John F. Kerry, Obama, Hillary Clinton and Biden.
    Klain’s debate rules for candidates, versions of which long ago became public, have been a mainstay of both party’s strategies for these presidential matchups. “Write your ‘dream’ post-debate headline,” one bullet point says. “Dress so no one will talk about it,” says another.
    “A stumble, fumble, or gaffe can cost you a debate, right up to the last second,” he wrote in one memo that became public. “But while you can lose a debate at any point, you can only win a debate in the first twenty minutes.”
    But it is Klain’s experience battling both a recession and a pandemic that could come most quickly into play as Biden confronts the nation’s crises. “He knows Biden and he is loyal to Biden, and he absolutely has Biden’s trust,” Dunn said. “There is no one who works harder than Ron, whether it is on a debate book or covid policy.”
    As Biden’s vice-presidential chief of staff, Klain oversaw the $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, a stimulus package that helped ward off a deeper recession after the 2008 economic collapse.
    Klain was considered for White House chief of staff during Obama’s second term. That job ultimately went to Denis McDonough, a longtime Obama policy adviser, after Klain withdrew from consideration for personal reasons.
    But he returned to the White House to become the point man for the administration’s response to the Ebola outbreak, which has now made him one of the Democratic Party’s go-to experts for responding to the coronavirus.
    [Klain: ‘Lockdown vs. reopening’ is a flawed debate]
    “It’s hard to prove a counterfactual, but I believe that Ron Klain is the reason we did not have an Ebola epidemic in the United States,” said Valerie Jarrett, a former senior adviser to Obama. “He is well respected by all the people with whom I have worked.”



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    Klain sounds like a good man, the right person for the job.  Thanks for posting this article, M.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 19,288
     Biden to Name Richmond, Ricchetti and O'Malley Dillon to Key Staff Jobs https://nyti.ms/2ILUyAJ


    Biden to Name Campaign Manager, Congressional Ally and Close Friend to Key Staff Jobs

    The appointments of Jennifer O’Malley Dillon, Representative Cedric Richmond and Steve Ricchetti suggest the importance that the president-elect is placing on surrounding himself with people he trusts.

    • Nov. 16, 2020

    WASHINGTON — President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. will formally announce key members of his White House staff on Tuesday, naming Representative Cedric L. Richmond of Louisiana to oversee public outreach and installing Jennifer O’Malley Dillon, who managed his presidential campaign, as a deputy chief of staff, a person familiar with the transition said.

    Mr. Biden will also announce that Steve Ricchetti, a longtime confidant, will serve in the White House as a counselor to the president. All three will most likely have offices down the hall from the Oval Office, making them among the most senior aides in the West Wing.

    Mr. Richmond will inherit a job once held by Valerie Jarrett in the Obama administration. Kellyanne Conway was President Trump’s counselor, the job that Mr. Ricchetti will take. And Ms. O’Malley Dillon will probably oversee White House operations for Mr. Biden.

    A spokesman for the transition declined to comment. A person familiar with the transition planning said the three appointments would be announced along with other members of the president-elect’s staff.

    Decisions about cabinet secretaries remain several weeks away, according to people close to Mr. Biden, who has spent several days during the past week in closed-door discussions with advisers about the challenge of winning confirmation fights if the Senate remains in Republican control next year.

    By contrast, White House staff positions do not require Senate confirmation, leaving the president-elect wide latitude in selecting his West Wing advisers.

    The announcements come as Mr. Biden moves quickly to establish his governing agenda and the team he will need to put it into effect once he takes office. The president-elect is under pressure to fill those jobs with people of diverse ethnic and ideological backgrounds, making good on promises he made during his campaign.

    But the appointments of Mr. Richmond, Ms. O’Malley Dillon and Mr. Ricchetti — all loyal lieutenants to Mr. Biden — suggest the importance that he is also placing on surrounding himself with people whose advice he implicitly trusts.

    Mr. Richmond, who served as a national co-chairman of Mr. Biden’s campaign and was an early supporter, had been widely expected to join the Biden White HouseHe brings with him deep relationships across Capitol Hill. His new job was reported earlier by Bloomberg.

    Mr. Richmond, a Democrat whose district includes most of New Orleans, has scheduled a news conference for Tuesday where he is expected to announce he is leaving Congress. In a brief phone call on Monday night, he laughingly declined to confirm that he was joining Mr. Biden’s staff but acknowledged that he would discuss his “future” on Tuesday.

    Mr. Richmond was formerly the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, and he has a close relationship with Representative James E. Clyburn, Democrat of South Carolina, whose endorsement in February helped revive Mr. Biden’s campaign. Mr. Richmond’s district is safely Democratic, and his departure from Congress is unlikely to cost the party another seat after an election where their majority was weakened.

    Mr. Richmond is likely to have broad responsibilities in his senior role and will continue to interact with Congress, according to people familiar with the transition. Others said they expected him to serve as one of the people most willing to give the new president frank and candid advice behind closed doors.

    Ms. O’Malley Dillon, a veteran of former President Barack Obama’s campaigns, has been credited with steering Mr. Biden’s presidential bid through the difficulties of the coronavirus pandemic and the challenge of running against an unpredictable rival like Mr. Trump. Her appointment was reported earlier by NBC News.

    She assumed the role of campaign manager in mid-March, just as the severity of the coronavirus outbreak was becoming clear to many Americans. Two days after she was named to the role, Biden campaign offices around the country shut down. She learned to remotely navigate the team factions and transformed a shoestring primary operation into a general election organization.

    Ms. O’Malley Dillon’s team faced criticism and second-guessing over the light footprint Mr. Biden’s campaign maintained in key battleground states during the pandemic, and throughout the campaign there were tensions between some of the earliest Biden aides and those she brought in as she built the team.

    But she was respected inside the campaign for streamlining and organizing what had been a small and underfunded operation, and her expected appointment is a clear sign of the degree to which she is trusted by the president-elect.

    Mr. Ricchetti is a close adviser and longtime lobbyist who has been by Mr. Biden’s side for years. He lobbied for the pharmaceutical industry and served as Mr. Biden’s chief of staff when he was the vice president.

    As one of Mr. Biden’s most trusted advisers and a longtime member of his tight-knit inner circle, Mr. Ricchetti is expected to have a broad portfolio and a senior role within the administration. During the campaign, he maintained deep relationships across Capitol Hill and in the donor community, sometimes serving as a kind of gatekeeper to the campaign for Democratic heavyweights.

    Mr. Biden is likely to move quickly on other key White House jobs as well.

    He still has to assemble a communications team, including a press secretary, who will often serve as the public face of the administration. Among the possible candidates for that job is Symone Sanders, who has served as one of his top communications advisers during the campaign.

    The president-elect will also have to choose a White House counsel, a key job in an era of divided government, when members of the other party often engage in legal clashes with the president. Dana Remus, who worked in the counsel’s office during Mr. Obama’s tenure, was the chief lawyer for Mr. Biden’s campaign.

    And Mr. Biden will need to choose aides to oversee national security, homeland security and economics in his White House. Announcements on some of those positions could also come as soon as Tuesday.

    Pranshu Verma and Nicholas Fandos contributed reporting.


    Michael D. Shear is a White House correspondent. He previously worked at The Washington Post and was a member of their Pulitzer Prize-winning team that covered the Virginia Tech shootings in 2007. @shearm

    Katie Glueck is a national politics reporter at The New York Times, where she covers the 2020 presidential campaign. She previously covered politics for McClatchy’s Washington bureau and for Politico. @katieglueck



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  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere.Posts: 4,349
    "He still has to assemble a communications team, including a press secretary, who will often serve as the public face of the administration. Among the possible candidates for that job is Symone Sanders, who has served as one of his top communications advisers during the campaign."

    I'm interested in this one and I hope to see reality, respect and some dignity restored to the whole process. That shouldn't be a high bar. :)


    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,108
    Kat said:
    "He still has to assemble a communications team, including a press secretary, who will often serve as the public face of the administration. Among the possible candidates for that job is Symone Sanders, who has served as one of his top communications advisers during the campaign."

    I'm interested in this one and I hope to see reality, respect and some dignity restored to the whole process. That shouldn't be a high bar. :)


    If you’ve watched any of Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden’s press conferences or taking questions from reporters, you’re already getting that. Sleepy Woke Joe knows his policy and the challenges and can speak intelligently to and of them. Refreshing actually not to sit through a complete BS session.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,231
    Kat said:
    "He still has to assemble a communications team, including a press secretary, who will often serve as the public face of the administration. Among the possible candidates for that job is Symone Sanders, who has served as one of his top communications advisers during the campaign."

    I'm interested in this one and I hope to see reality, respect and some dignity restored to the whole process. That shouldn't be a high bar. :)


    I've watched/heard her on CNN many times and she's good.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,282
    Speaking of Press Secretary...
    That Kayleigh McEnany is a sharp tack, she makes Spicer and Huckabee look like utter fools. 
      I worry about her, she could be a dangerous force in politics in the future...
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,282
    Speaking of Press Secretary...
    That Kayleigh McEnany is a sharp tack, she makes Spicer and Huckabee look like utter fools. 
      I worry about her, she could be a dangerous force in politics in the future...
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere.Posts: 4,349
    You're giving me hope. I haven't seen her so I'm looking forward to it, thank you. :) I have enjoyed the sanity of P-E Biden taking questions in the times that's happened too.
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 19,288
    Kat said:
    You're giving me hope. I haven't seen her so I'm looking forward to it, thank you. :) I have enjoyed the sanity of P-E Biden taking questions in the times that's happened too.

    he brought soul eaters liar in chief onto this thread...
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 11,096
    Kat said:
    "He still has to assemble a communications team, including a press secretary, who will often serve as the public face of the administration. Among the possible candidates for that job is Symone Sanders, who has served as one of his top communications advisers during the campaign."

    I'm interested in this one and I hope to see reality, respect and some dignity restored to the whole process. That shouldn't be a high bar. :)


    I've watched/heard her on CNN many times and she's good.
    Yes she seems like a no nonsense type of person.  They might have to tell her to back off a bit.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 10,862
    rgambs said:
    Speaking of Press Secretary...
    That Kayleigh McEnany is a sharp tack, she makes Spicer and Huckabee look like utter fools. 
      I worry about her, she could be a dangerous force in politics in the future...
    She certainly makes the art of defending bullshit look effortless. No question she has been and could be dangerous in the future. 
  • MalrothMalroth broken down chevroletPosts: 2,173
    It's such a relief to get back to normal self-serving, deceitful, hypocritical politics.
    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.
  • static111static111 Posts: 1,883
    Malroth said:
    It's such a relief to get back to normal self-serving, deceitful, hypocritical politics.
    😂😂😂
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 19,288


    Biden signals shift from Trump with national security picks
    By MATTHEW LEE
    51 mins ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Joe Biden is moving to fill out his national security team with a raft of appointments to top positions that signal his intent to repudiate the Trump administration’s “America First” doctrine.

    The six picks announced on Monday, almost all of them alumni of the Obama administration, represent a fundamental shift away from President Donald Trump’s policies and personnel selections. They also mark a return to a more traditional approach to America’s relations with the rest of the world and reflect Biden’s campaign promises to have his Cabinet reflect the diversity of the American population.

    In choosing foreign policy veterans, Biden is seeking to upend Trump’s war on the so-called “deep state” that saw an exodus of career officials from government. He will nominate his longtime adviser Antony Blinken to be secretary of state, lawyer Alejandro Mayorkas to be homeland security secretary, Linda Thomas-Greenfield to be ambassador to the United Nations, Jake Sullivan to be his national security adviser, Avril Haines to be Sullivan's deputy, and former Secretary of State John Kerry to be his climate change envoy.

    The choices also suggest Biden intends to make good on campaign promises to have his Cabinet reflect the diversity of the American population with Greenfield, a Black woman, at the helm of the U.S. Mission to the United Nations and Mayorkas, a Cuban-American lawyer who will be the first Latino to lead Homeland Security.

    They “are experienced, crisis-tested leaders who are ready to hit the ground running on day one,” the transition said in a statement. “These officials will start working immediately to rebuild our institutions, renew and reimagine American leadership to keep Americans safe at home and abroad, and address the defining challenges of our time — from infectious disease, to terrorism, nuclear proliferation, cyber threats, and climate change.”

    In making the announcements, Biden moved forward with plans to fill out his government even as Trump refuses to concede defeat in the Nov. 3 election, has pursued baseless legal challenges in several key states and has worked to stymie the transition process.

    The stakes of a smooth transition are especially high this year because Biden will take office amid the worst pandemic in more than a century, which will likely require a full government response to contain.

    Perhaps the best known of the bunch is Kerry, who made climate change one of his top priorities while serving as Obama's secretary of state.

    “America will soon have a government that treats the climate crisis as the urgent national security threat it is,” Kerry said. “I’m proud to partner with the president-elect, our allies, and the young leaders of the climate movement to take on this crisis as the president’s climate envoy.”

    Sullivan, who at 43 will be one of the youngest national security advisers in history, was a top aide to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton before becoming then-Vice President Biden's national security adviser. He said the president-elect had “taught me what it takes to safeguard our national security at the highest levels of our government.”

    “Now, he has asked me to serve as his national security adviser,” Sullivan said. “In service, I will do everything in my power to keep our country safe.”

    The posts to be held by Kerry, Sullivan and Haines do not require Senate confirmation.

    Blinken, 58, served as deputy secretary of state and deputy national security adviser during the Obama administration and has close ties with Biden. If nominated and confirmed, he would be a leading force in the incoming administration’s bid to reframe the U.S. relationship with the rest of the world after four years in which President Donald Trump questioned longtime alliances.

    Blinken recently participated in a national security briefing with Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris and has weighed in publicly on notable foreign policy issues in Egypt and Ethiopia.

    Blinken would inherit a deeply demoralized and depleted career workforce at the State Department. Trump’s two secretaries of state, Rex Tillerson and Mike Pompeo, offered weak resistance to the administration’s attempts to gut the agency, which were thwarted only by congressional intervention.

    Although the department escaped massive proposed cuts of more than 30% in its budget for three consecutive years, it has seen a significant number of departures from its senior and rising mid-level ranks, from which many diplomats have opted to retire or leave the foreign service given limited prospects for advancements under an administration that they believe does not value their expertise.

    A graduate of Harvard University and Columbia Law School and a longtime Democratic foreign policy presence, Blinken has aligned himself with numerous former senior national security officials who have called for a major reinvestment in American diplomacy and renewed emphasis on global engagement.

    “Democracy is in retreat around the world, and unfortunately it’s also in retreat at home because of the president taking a two-by-four to its institutions, its values and its people every day," Blinken told The Associated Press in September. "Our friends know that Joe Biden knows who they are. So do our adversaries. That difference would be felt on day one.”

    Blinken served on the National Security Council during the Clinton administration before becoming staff director for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee when Biden was chair of the panel. In the early years of the Obama administration, Blinken returned to the NSC and was then-Vice President Biden’s national security adviser before he moved to the State Department to serve as deputy to Secretary of State John Kerry.

    Biden has pledged to build the most diverse government in modern history, and he and his team often speak about their desire for his administration to reflect America. He is being watched to see whether he will make history by nominating the first woman to lead the Pentagon, the Treasury Department or the Department of Veterans Affairs or the first African American at the top of the Defense Department, the Interior Department or the Treasury Department.

    Ron Klain, Biden’s incoming chief of staff, said Sunday the Trump administration’s refusal to clear the way for Biden’s team to have access to key information about agencies and federal dollars for the transition is taking its toll on planning, including the Cabinet selection process. Trump’s General Services Administration has yet to acknowledge that Biden won the election — a determination that would remove those roadblocks.

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    “We’re not in a position to get background checks on Cabinet nominees. And so there are definite impacts. Those impacts escalate every day,” Klain told ABC’s “This Week.”

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    Associated Press writers Julie Pace in Washington, Alexandra Jaffe in Wilmington, Delaware, and Bill Barrow in Atlanta contributed to this report.


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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 32,760
    edited November 24
    'bout damn time!  Don't you just love how the Trump admin has labeled it an "apparent" Biden victory?  LOL


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  • static111static111 Posts: 1,883
    edited November 24
    brianlux said:
    'bout damn time!  Don't you just love how the Trump admin has labeled it an "apparent" Biden victory?  LOL


    Lol you should see twitlers tweet.   He is not conceding and believes he will still win!
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 32,760
    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    'bout damn time!  Don't you just love how the Trump admin has labeled it an "apparent" Biden victory?  LOL


    Lol you should see twitlers tweet.   He is not conceding and believes he will still win!

    Amazing, isn't it?  A true clown to the very end!
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