Ok I’ll go. Biden just destroyed thousands of Union jobs in oil and gas and the sky is falling. Also according to memes circulating he told pipe liners to go find other jobs. Did I mention...The Sky Is Falling
I do find it ironic that conservatives are making an uproar over lost union jobs, because normally you hear about them trying to hinder unions. See right to work initiatives in red states.
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As Biden vows monumental action on climate change, a fight with the fossil fuel industry has only begun
‘This
is not the time for small measures,’ the president said Wednesday, as
he unveiled sweeping executive actions to cut emissions to fight global
warming.
Joe
Biden had long promised to become the climate president, and on
Wednesday he detailed far-ranging plans to shift the U.S. away from
fossil fuels, create millions of jobs in renewable energy, and conserve
vast swaths of public lands and water.
“This
is not a time for small measures,” Biden said at the White House,
adding that the nation had already wasted precious years as it delayed
in dealing with the climate crisis.
But
as he detailed his plans, the gas, oil and coal industries were already
mobilizing on all fronts. From an oil patch in Alaska to state capitals
to the halls of Congress, the industries and their allies are aiming to
slow Biden’s unprecedented push for climate action and keep profits
from fossil fuels flowing. Republican attorneys general from six states
wrote to the new president, warning him not to overstep his authority.
GOP lawmakers attacked his executive orders as “job killers.” And the
petroleum industry revived television ads promoting drilling on federal lands.
Industry
executives expressed dismay at the scope, speed and direction in which
Biden is heading, saying he is going much further than President Barack
Obama ever did, while environmentalists said the danger that Earth faces
is far more dire now than it appeared during Obama’s tenure and
requires an extraordinary response. Last year essentially tied with 2016
as the hottest year ever recorded, and scientists say the planet is speeding toward irreversible damage.
In
barely a week in office, Biden has moved to rejoin the Paris climate
accord, halt the controversial Keystone XL pipeline, impose new limits on oil and gas production, and mandate climate change as a priority across every federal agency.
Biden calls climate change an ‘existential threat’
President
Biden on Jan. 27 signed three executive actions to combat climate
change and said the U.S. had waited too long to deal with the “climate
crisis.” (The Washington Post)
On
Wednesday, he promised to use the government’s purchasing power to fund
a federal clean-car fleet — and the jobs that would come with it. He
pledged to help low-income and minority communities that have
historically suffered the worst pollution. And he insisted the nation
must set about preparing for the inevitable impacts of climate change,
even as it tries to stave off the worst future outcomes. He also said
the United States will lead the world in the global effort to cut
greenhouse gases that are driving climate change.
Biden’s
aggressive proposals won broad praise from environmental activists and
many fellow Democrats while setting off an intense battle with the U.S.
fossil fuel industry, which has underpinned the nation’s economy for
more than a century.
“This
is a radical departure from almost any other administration, and I
would even say, President Obama,” said Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska),
echoing the sentiments of several others in his party and in the fossil
fuel industry.
“Our
states have led the charge in successfully challenging unauthorized and
unlawful executive actions, as you know from your years as vice
president,” West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey and five
other Republican attorneys general wrote in a letter to Biden. Morrisey
sued to block the Obama administration’s rule curbing greenhouse gas
emissions from power plants. “You can be assured that we will do so
again, if necessary.”
American
Clean Power Association CEO Heather Zichal, who served as one of
Obama’s top climate advisers, said no one should be surprised by Biden’s
approach, given the mounting scientific evidence of the Earth’s
continued warming and advances in recent years that have helped make
renewable energy cheaper.
“If
we’re going to remove 51 billion tons of greenhouse gas emissions
annually and get to zero [emissions] in 30 years, this is going to
require drastic action,” she said, adding that her members are prepared
to invest $1 trillion in the coming years on clean energy projects. “We
see nothing but opportunity.”
Biden’s
special envoy on climate, John F. Kerry, told reporters at the White
House on Wednesday that the scientific reality gives the president
little choice.
“It
is now cheaper to deal with the crisis climate than it is to ignore
it,” Kerry said, noting the massive sums taxpayers have spent recovering
from increasingly devastating hurricanes in recent years. “We’re
spending more money, folks. We’re just not doing it smart. We’re not
doing it in a way that would actually sustain us for the long term.”
In
a nation that remains heavily reliant on oil and gas but is shifting
toward cleaner energy, the president and his deputies are aware they
must take steps to blunt the short-term economic fallout on those
impacted by the transition, or risk having them unravel. To that end,
the White House is establishing an interagency working group headed by
climate coordinator Gina McCarthy and National Economic Council Director
Brian Deese that will help communities grappling with the shift away
from coal and other fossil fuels.
“We’re
going to make sure that nobody is left behind,” McCarthy told reporters
Wednesday. “We need to put people to work in their own communities.
That’s where their home is. That’s where the vision is. So we are
creatively looking at those opportunities for investment so that we can
get people understanding that we are not trying to take away jobs.”
Federal fossil fuel leasing
generated nearly $8.1 billion in tax revenue in fiscal 2020, according
to the Interior Department’s Office of Natural Resources Revenue, a sum
shared among federal, state, local and tribal governments. The practice
also accounts for nearly a quarter of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions.
“Over
the years, right or wrong, state budgets and social service provisions
have become insidiously entangled with fossil fuel energy profits,” said
Chase Huntley, who directs the Wilderness Society’s energy and climate
program.
On his first day as president, Biden rescinded the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline
— a project that enjoys the support of some building trade unions — and
on Wednesday, he announced an indefinite halt to new oil and gas
leasing on federal lands and waters.
In
an interview just after the November election, the American Petroleum
Institute’s senior vice president of policy, economics and regulatory
affairs, Frank Macchiarola, said his group was aware of Biden’s plan to
impose a leasing moratorium. “But we also recognize that that was a
campaign proposal, and campaigning is often different from governing,”
he said at the time.
This
week, Macchiarola said he was surprised that Biden would block a major
pipeline in the midst of an economic downturn. “When you launch your
campaign, and the unemployment rate is between 3.5 percent and 4
percent, and you take office and the unemployment rate is 6.7 percent,
should your policies be the same when a project means thousands of
jobs?”
Some oil crews have suspended work in reaction to news out of Washington.
Dave
Cruz’s construction crew had already traveled 100 miles by snow trail
to “the middle of nowhere” on the Alaskan tundra last week and were
getting ready to prepare a five-acre well pad made of ice when they
learned of the tighter restrictions under the Biden administration.
“I hate to tell you guys, we’ve got to let you go,” Cruz said he told his nearly 50-person crew on the National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska,
the nation’s largest swath of public land.The Interior Department is
poised to issue the permit soon, which would allow the crew to return.
The
fossil fuel industry also has encouraged tribal, state, local and
labor leaders to weigh in. Biden’s aides clarified this week that any
restrictions on new leasing or permitting does not apply to Indian
Country, since federal officials would first have to engage in formal
consultations with those sovereign nations.
“A
delay in energy permitting in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic
would have been devastating to our economy and the health and safety of
our tribal members,” said Ute Indian Tribe Business Committee Chairman
Luke Duncan, whose tribe has a drilling operation in Utah.
Biden
has taken office at an inflection point in U.S. energy policy, where
fossil fuels dominate transportation and electricity generation, even as
they are starting to lose ground to both market forces and shifting
public opinion.
David
Slater, chairman of the board of the Interstate Natural Gas Association
of America, told reporters Tuesday that natural gas accounted for the
largest source of U.S. electricity in 2019, at 38 percent, and the
Energy Information Administration projects America’s overall natural gas
consumption will “grow slightly” by 2050.
At
the same time, the oil and gas industry has suffered a series of recent
economic setbacks. Tom Sanzillo, director of finance at the Institute
for Energy Economics, noted these companies accounted for 28 percent of
the U.S. stock market in 1980, but just 2.3 percent of it as of this
month.
“The
oil industry doesn’t have a plan for its future. They want to drill
wherever they want, whenever they want,” Sanzillo said. “What Biden is
doing is saying, ‘We need to reduce the supply, because the industry is
not doing it.’ ”
The
Trump administration offered more than 103 million acres of oil and gas
leases, according to Interior, of which just 10.6 million acres sold.
The industry has a considerable stockpile of leases: 53 percent of those
onshore are unused or not producing, along with 77 percent of those
offshore. And in December alone, the Bureau of Land Management signed
off on 847 drilling permits, a rate roughly double what it had approved
each month between June and November.
Rystad
Energy’s head of shale research, Artem Abramov, said that the pause in
new federal leasing would have “little impact” on oil and gas production
in federal land, including in New Mexico’s gas-rich Permian Basin.
Taylor
McKinnon, senior public lands campaigner at the Center for Biological
Diversity, noted that federal leases sold since 2017 would release 1.9
billion tons of greenhouse gases alone. All of the oil, gas, coal, oil
shale and tar sands the U.S. government has leased holds more than 20
times that warming potential, he added.
Whatever
legislative, lobbying and legal battles lie ahead, those who have long
hoped for strong climate action from the federal government cheered
Biden’s actions Wednesday, saying he is pursuing the right path for the
country — and for the planet.
Sen.
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) has delivered a “Time to Wake Up” speech
about climate change nearly every week the Senate has been in session
for the past nine years, frustrated that the U.S. government wasn’t
acting more purposefully. On Wednesday, he delivered his 279th speech.
It would be his last, he said, because President Biden was forcing the
country to finally act.
“So instead of urging that it’s time to wake up,” he said, “I close this long run by saying now it’s time to get to work.”
Juliet
Eilperin is a Pulitzer Prize-winning senior national affairs
correspondent for The Washington Post, covering environmental and energy
policy. She has written two books, "Demon Fish: Travels Through the
Hidden World of Sharks" and "Fight Club Politics: How Partisanship is
Poisoning the House of Representatives." Follow
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Dennis is a Pulitzer Prize-winning national reporter for The Washington
Post, focusing on the environment and public health. He previously
spent years covering the nation’s economy. Follow
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Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
Ok I’ll go. Biden just destroyed thousands of Union jobs in oil and gas and the sky is falling. Also according to memes circulating he told pipe liners to go find other jobs. Did I mention...The Sky Is Falling
I do find it ironic that conservatives are making an uproar over lost union jobs, because normally you hear about them trying to hinder unions. See right to work initiatives in red states.
Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
They are union employees so as long as laborers are being requested (from the union) they would just show up at a different employer as requested.
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Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
They are union employees so as long as laborers are being requested (from the union) they would just show up at a different employer as requested.
Oh yeah I'm certain in a pandemic with massive unemployment that they have jobs to just go to
I get what Joe is doing. I do think many of the exec orders have been correct (though using them is fools gold...as trump found out), But this is one I question.
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Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
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memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
according to fuckstick the wall was completed..
i think he may be referring to keystone
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Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
according to fuckstick the wall was completed..
i think he may be referring to keystone
was already held up because of nebraska.
further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
according to fuckstick the wall was completed..
i think he may be referring to keystone
was already held up because of nebraska.
further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....
Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?
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Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
according to fuckstick the wall was completed..
i think he may be referring to keystone
was already held up because of nebraska.
further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....
Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?
So THATS why infrastructure week never happened.....
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memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
according to fuckstick the wall was completed..
i think he may be referring to keystone
was already held up because of nebraska.
further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....
Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?
Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.
Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
according to fuckstick the wall was completed..
i think he may be referring to keystone
was already held up because of nebraska.
further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....
Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?
Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.
i agree. same goes with all these environmental protections and regulations trump undid. shouldn't be allowed.
Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
according to fuckstick the wall was completed..
i think he may be referring to keystone
was already held up because of nebraska.
further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....
Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?
Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.
This emphasis on the 'stroke of the pen' suggests they're doing it on a whim.
Is there not some actual logic behind the move, or did Biden just feel like signing something?
Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
according to fuckstick the wall was completed..
i think he may be referring to keystone
was already held up because of nebraska.
further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....
Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?
Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.
This emphasis on the 'stroke of the pen' suggests they're doing it on a whim.
Is there not some actual logic behind the move, or did Biden just feel like signing something?
there is (environmental), and I agree with it. it just seems so stupid that so many EO's of consequence end up being ping ponged by the next admin.
Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
according to fuckstick the wall was completed..
i think he may be referring to keystone
was already held up because of nebraska.
further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....
Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?
Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.
My understanding was that gov't was assisting in the cost. Considering this is a multi billion dollar project, I would have expected the price of TC to plummet. It has only lost a few dollars since Biden was elected.
The Alberta government pumped 1.5 billion into the project just a few months ago. But that was just a stupid thing to do. Alberta knew this pipeline was on shaky ground to begin with, so why they invested more into cash the pipeline is what I would like to know? And Alberta has been struggling...so they wasted much needed money.
As much as I do not like the project being cancelled. But if the project restarts it needs to go through the proper environmental regulations and proper consultations...and be approved through legislation...would you not think?
with that being said...Canadians do not have a right to demand the US build a pipeline to pump Canadian oil...especially when we do not build enough pipe line capacity to get our oil to tidewater...and we still import Saudi oil.
Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?
I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
according to fuckstick the wall was completed..
i think he may be referring to keystone
was already held up because of nebraska.
further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....
Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?
Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.
This emphasis on the 'stroke of the pen' suggests they're doing it on a whim.
Is there not some actual logic behind the move, or did Biden just feel like signing something?
there is (environmental), and I agree with it. it just seems so stupid that so many EO's of consequence end up being ping ponged by the next admin.
I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.
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I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.
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I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.
wss already stalled in Nebraska courts.
So the keystone is still going and no jobs are going to be lost?
I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.
wss already stalled in Nebraska courts.
So the keystone is still going and no jobs are going to be lost?
I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.
wss already stalled in Nebraska courts.
So the keystone is still going and no jobs are going to be lost?
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I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.
wss already stalled in Nebraska courts.
So the keystone is still going and no jobs are going to be lost?
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As Biden vows monumental action on climate change, a fight with the fossil fuel industry has only begun
‘This is not the time for small measures,’ the president said Wednesday, as he unveiled sweeping executive actions to cut emissions to fight global warming.
Joe Biden had long promised to become the climate president, and on Wednesday he detailed far-ranging plans to shift the U.S. away from fossil fuels, create millions of jobs in renewable energy, and conserve vast swaths of public lands and water.
“This is not a time for small measures,” Biden said at the White House, adding that the nation had already wasted precious years as it delayed in dealing with the climate crisis.
But as he detailed his plans, the gas, oil and coal industries were already mobilizing on all fronts. From an oil patch in Alaska to state capitals to the halls of Congress, the industries and their allies are aiming to slow Biden’s unprecedented push for climate action and keep profits from fossil fuels flowing. Republican attorneys general from six states wrote to the new president, warning him not to overstep his authority. GOP lawmakers attacked his executive orders as “job killers.” And the petroleum industry revived television ads promoting drilling on federal lands.
Industry executives expressed dismay at the scope, speed and direction in which Biden is heading, saying he is going much further than President Barack Obama ever did, while environmentalists said the danger that Earth faces is far more dire now than it appeared during Obama’s tenure and requires an extraordinary response. Last year essentially tied with 2016 as the hottest year ever recorded, and scientists say the planet is speeding toward irreversible damage.
In barely a week in office, Biden has moved to rejoin the Paris climate accord, halt the controversial Keystone XL pipeline, impose new limits on oil and gas production, and mandate climate change as a priority across every federal agency.
On Wednesday, he promised to use the government’s purchasing power to fund a federal clean-car fleet — and the jobs that would come with it. He pledged to help low-income and minority communities that have historically suffered the worst pollution. And he insisted the nation must set about preparing for the inevitable impacts of climate change, even as it tries to stave off the worst future outcomes. He also said the United States will lead the world in the global effort to cut greenhouse gases that are driving climate change.
Biden’s aggressive proposals won broad praise from environmental activists and many fellow Democrats while setting off an intense battle with the U.S. fossil fuel industry, which has underpinned the nation’s economy for more than a century.
“This is a radical departure from almost any other administration, and I would even say, President Obama,” said Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska), echoing the sentiments of several others in his party and in the fossil fuel industry.
“Our states have led the charge in successfully challenging unauthorized and unlawful executive actions, as you know from your years as vice president,” West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey and five other Republican attorneys general wrote in a letter to Biden. Morrisey sued to block the Obama administration’s rule curbing greenhouse gas emissions from power plants. “You can be assured that we will do so again, if necessary.”
American Clean Power Association CEO Heather Zichal, who served as one of Obama’s top climate advisers, said no one should be surprised by Biden’s approach, given the mounting scientific evidence of the Earth’s continued warming and advances in recent years that have helped make renewable energy cheaper.
“If we’re going to remove 51 billion tons of greenhouse gas emissions annually and get to zero [emissions] in 30 years, this is going to require drastic action,” she said, adding that her members are prepared to invest $1 trillion in the coming years on clean energy projects. “We see nothing but opportunity.”
Biden’s special envoy on climate, John F. Kerry, told reporters at the White House on Wednesday that the scientific reality gives the president little choice.
“It is now cheaper to deal with the crisis climate than it is to ignore it,” Kerry said, noting the massive sums taxpayers have spent recovering from increasingly devastating hurricanes in recent years. “We’re spending more money, folks. We’re just not doing it smart. We’re not doing it in a way that would actually sustain us for the long term.”
In a nation that remains heavily reliant on oil and gas but is shifting toward cleaner energy, the president and his deputies are aware they must take steps to blunt the short-term economic fallout on those impacted by the transition, or risk having them unravel. To that end, the White House is establishing an interagency working group headed by climate coordinator Gina McCarthy and National Economic Council Director Brian Deese that will help communities grappling with the shift away from coal and other fossil fuels.
“We’re going to make sure that nobody is left behind,” McCarthy told reporters Wednesday. “We need to put people to work in their own communities. That’s where their home is. That’s where the vision is. So we are creatively looking at those opportunities for investment so that we can get people understanding that we are not trying to take away jobs.”
Federal fossil fuel leasing generated nearly $8.1 billion in tax revenue in fiscal 2020, according to the Interior Department’s Office of Natural Resources Revenue, a sum shared among federal, state, local and tribal governments. The practice also accounts for nearly a quarter of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions.
“Over the years, right or wrong, state budgets and social service provisions have become insidiously entangled with fossil fuel energy profits,” said Chase Huntley, who directs the Wilderness Society’s energy and climate program.
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On his first day as president, Biden rescinded the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline — a project that enjoys the support of some building trade unions — and on Wednesday, he announced an indefinite halt to new oil and gas leasing on federal lands and waters.
In an interview just after the November election, the American Petroleum Institute’s senior vice president of policy, economics and regulatory affairs, Frank Macchiarola, said his group was aware of Biden’s plan to impose a leasing moratorium. “But we also recognize that that was a campaign proposal, and campaigning is often different from governing,” he said at the time.
This week, Macchiarola said he was surprised that Biden would block a major pipeline in the midst of an economic downturn. “When you launch your campaign, and the unemployment rate is between 3.5 percent and 4 percent, and you take office and the unemployment rate is 6.7 percent, should your policies be the same when a project means thousands of jobs?”
Some oil crews have suspended work in reaction to news out of Washington.
Dave Cruz’s construction crew had already traveled 100 miles by snow trail to “the middle of nowhere” on the Alaskan tundra last week and were getting ready to prepare a five-acre well pad made of ice when they learned of the tighter restrictions under the Biden administration.
“I hate to tell you guys, we’ve got to let you go,” Cruz said he told his nearly 50-person crew on the National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska, the nation’s largest swath of public land.The Interior Department is poised to issue the permit soon, which would allow the crew to return.
The fossil fuel industry also has encouraged tribal, state, local and labor leaders to weigh in. Biden’s aides clarified this week that any restrictions on new leasing or permitting does not apply to Indian Country, since federal officials would first have to engage in formal consultations with those sovereign nations.
“A delay in energy permitting in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic would have been devastating to our economy and the health and safety of our tribal members,” said Ute Indian Tribe Business Committee Chairman Luke Duncan, whose tribe has a drilling operation in Utah.
Biden has taken office at an inflection point in U.S. energy policy, where fossil fuels dominate transportation and electricity generation, even as they are starting to lose ground to both market forces and shifting public opinion.
David Slater, chairman of the board of the Interstate Natural Gas Association of America, told reporters Tuesday that natural gas accounted for the largest source of U.S. electricity in 2019, at 38 percent, and the Energy Information Administration projects America’s overall natural gas consumption will “grow slightly” by 2050.
At the same time, the oil and gas industry has suffered a series of recent economic setbacks. Tom Sanzillo, director of finance at the Institute for Energy Economics, noted these companies accounted for 28 percent of the U.S. stock market in 1980, but just 2.3 percent of it as of this month.
“The oil industry doesn’t have a plan for its future. They want to drill wherever they want, whenever they want,” Sanzillo said. “What Biden is doing is saying, ‘We need to reduce the supply, because the industry is not doing it.’ ”
The Trump administration offered more than 103 million acres of oil and gas leases, according to Interior, of which just 10.6 million acres sold. The industry has a considerable stockpile of leases: 53 percent of those onshore are unused or not producing, along with 77 percent of those offshore. And in December alone, the Bureau of Land Management signed off on 847 drilling permits, a rate roughly double what it had approved each month between June and November.
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Rystad Energy’s head of shale research, Artem Abramov, said that the pause in new federal leasing would have “little impact” on oil and gas production in federal land, including in New Mexico’s gas-rich Permian Basin.
Taylor McKinnon, senior public lands campaigner at the Center for Biological Diversity, noted that federal leases sold since 2017 would release 1.9 billion tons of greenhouse gases alone. All of the oil, gas, coal, oil shale and tar sands the U.S. government has leased holds more than 20 times that warming potential, he added.
Whatever legislative, lobbying and legal battles lie ahead, those who have long hoped for strong climate action from the federal government cheered Biden’s actions Wednesday, saying he is pursuing the right path for the country — and for the planet.
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) has delivered a “Time to Wake Up” speech about climate change nearly every week the Senate has been in session for the past nine years, frustrated that the U.S. government wasn’t acting more purposefully. On Wednesday, he delivered his 279th speech. It would be his last, he said, because President Biden was forcing the country to finally act.
“So instead of urging that it’s time to wake up,” he said, “I close this long run by saying now it’s time to get to work.”
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I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?
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I get what Joe is doing. I do think many of the exec orders have been correct (though using them is fools gold...as trump found out), But this is one I question.
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So THATS why infrastructure week never happened.....
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Is there not some actual logic behind the move, or did Biden just feel like signing something?
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As much as I do not like the project being cancelled. But if the project restarts it needs to go through the proper environmental regulations and proper consultations...and be approved through legislation...would you not think?
with that being said...Canadians do not have a right to demand the US build a pipeline to pump Canadian oil...especially when we do not build enough pipe line capacity to get our oil to tidewater...and we still import Saudi oil.
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