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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,771
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Anyone have any thoughts on AOC voting against the bill?
    Perfect is the enemy of good.
    Interesting. Makes sense for sure. Her district is in dire need of infrastructure. They were hit the hardest during the last storm. I’m just wondering if she starts voting a certain way just to keep
    in line with “the squad” 

    doesnt this line of discussion belong in the infrastructure thread?

    anyway, posted a video addressing this over there.
    So sorry. 

    simple question. you do you.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,637
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Anyone have any thoughts on AOC voting against the bill?
    Perfect is the enemy of good.
    Interesting. Makes sense for sure. Her district is in dire need of infrastructure. They were hit the hardest during the last storm. I’m just wondering if she starts voting a certain way just to keep
    in line with “the squad” 
    It's just inability to compromise.  She gets to say she's still fighting but the bill passed anyway.  
    My guess is if her vote was needed, she'd have voted for it.
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  • mrussel1
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    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Anyone have any thoughts on AOC voting against the bill?
    Perfect is the enemy of good.
    Interesting. Makes sense for sure. Her district is in dire need of infrastructure. They were hit the hardest during the last storm. I’m just wondering if she starts voting a certain way just to keep
    in line with “the squad” 
    It's just inability to compromise.  She gets to say she's still fighting but the bill passed anyway.  
    My guess is if her vote was needed, she'd have voted for it.
    Yeah that's really the question.  One would hope 
  • mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Anyone have any thoughts on AOC voting against the bill?
    Perfect is the enemy of good.
    Interesting. Makes sense for sure. Her district is in dire need of infrastructure. They were hit the hardest during the last storm. I’m just wondering if she starts voting a certain way just to keep
    in line with “the squad” 
    It's just inability to compromise.  She gets to say she's still fighting but the bill passed anyway.  
    My guess is if her vote was needed, she'd have voted for it.
    Yeah that's really the question.  One would hope 
    She hasn't been bullshitting her constituents.  That is for sure.  She says I will vote this way or that way IF and does it.
  • AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
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  • mrussel1
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    edited November 2021
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    Her sticking to it is part of her integrity.

    I don't agree w everything she stands for but I like that she doesn't sugar coat things.
  • gimmesometruth27
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    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
    But he’s caved when confronted with a potential POOTWH primary challenger, in effect ceding a seat to the POOTWH Party. AOC is being primaried and she’s not resigning.
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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
    But he’s caved when confronted with a potential POOTWH primary challenger, in effect ceding a seat to the POOTWH Party. AOC is being primaried and she’s not resigning.
    Because he won't win.  Same issue for Anthony Gonzales. AOC will win.  I don't see what that had to do with integrity though. 
  • static111
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
    But he’s caved when confronted with a potential POOTWH primary challenger, in effect ceding a seat to the POOTWH Party. AOC is being primaried and she’s not resigning.
    Because he won't win.  Same issue for Anthony Gonzales. AOC will win.  I don't see what that had to do with integrity though. 
    If he believed in what was right and had integrity wouldn't he at least put up a fight against a Pro trump candidate?
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  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
    But he’s caved when confronted with a potential POOTWH primary challenger, in effect ceding a seat to the POOTWH Party. AOC is being primaried and she’s not resigning.
    Because he won't win.  Same issue for Anthony Gonzales. AOC will win.  I don't see what that had to do with integrity though. 
    If he had integrity, he’d fight for his seat and make the case against the POOTWH party. He’s rolling over. No integrity in that.
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  • mrussel1
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    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
    But he’s caved when confronted with a potential POOTWH primary challenger, in effect ceding a seat to the POOTWH Party. AOC is being primaried and she’s not resigning.
    Because he won't win.  Same issue for Anthony Gonzales. AOC will win.  I don't see what that had to do with integrity though. 
    If he believed in what was right and had integrity wouldn't he at least put up a fight against a Pro trump candidate?
    Why would you spend your time, resources and likely own money to fight a lost cause.  Sorry, I wouildn't do that.  He has his family to think about too.  Life goes on after your time in the House.  He has a life to live and a new career to find.  It's no more his moral obligation that it is either of yours to mount your own campaign. 
  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
    But he’s caved when confronted with a potential POOTWH primary challenger, in effect ceding a seat to the POOTWH Party. AOC is being primaried and she’s not resigning.
    Because he won't win.  Same issue for Anthony Gonzales. AOC will win.  I don't see what that had to do with integrity though. 
    If he had integrity, he’d fight for his seat and make the case against the POOTWH party. He’s rolling over. No integrity in that.
    See my comment to Static.  He doesn't owe anyone that.  Once his term is over, his service is performed.  
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
    But he’s caved when confronted with a potential POOTWH primary challenger, in effect ceding a seat to the POOTWH Party. AOC is being primaried and she’s not resigning.
    Because he won't win.  Same issue for Anthony Gonzales. AOC will win.  I don't see what that had to do with integrity though. 
    If he had integrity, he’d fight for his seat and make the case against the POOTWH party. He’s rolling over. No integrity in that.
    See my comment to Static.  He doesn't owe anyone that.  Once his term is over, his service is performed.  
    If currently elected repubs aren’t going to defend the party from POOTWH taking it completely over, then who is? Safe to call him a quitter?

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2021/2/24/22300280/illinois-rep-adam-kinzinger-pro-trump-gop-primary-challenger-catalina-lauf-523900-hits-on-video
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  • JeBurkhardt
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    Kinzinger's district is being combined with another Republican district due to redistricting by the Illinois legislature. The person who he would be going up against in the primary is Darin LaHood, who is a dyed in the wool Trump supporter. He saw the writing on the wall.  
  • static111
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    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
    But he’s caved when confronted with a potential POOTWH primary challenger, in effect ceding a seat to the POOTWH Party. AOC is being primaried and she’s not resigning.
    Because he won't win.  Same issue for Anthony Gonzales. AOC will win.  I don't see what that had to do with integrity though. 
    If he believed in what was right and had integrity wouldn't he at least put up a fight against a Pro trump candidate?
    Why would you spend your time, resources and likely own money to fight a lost cause.  Sorry, I wouildn't do that.  He has his family to think about too.  Life goes on after your time in the House.  He has a life to live and a new career to find.  It's no more his moral obligation that it is either of yours to mount your own campaign. 
    So what is the argument for someone primarying AOC.  I know you aren't in support of this, but I am wondering what case would be made to knowingly go into a losing battle like that?
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  • mrussel1
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    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
    But he’s caved when confronted with a potential POOTWH primary challenger, in effect ceding a seat to the POOTWH Party. AOC is being primaried and she’s not resigning.
    Because he won't win.  Same issue for Anthony Gonzales. AOC will win.  I don't see what that had to do with integrity though. 
    If he believed in what was right and had integrity wouldn't he at least put up a fight against a Pro trump candidate?
    Why would you spend your time, resources and likely own money to fight a lost cause.  Sorry, I wouildn't do that.  He has his family to think about too.  Life goes on after your time in the House.  He has a life to live and a new career to find.  It's no more his moral obligation that it is either of yours to mount your own campaign. 
    So what is the argument for someone primarying AOC.  I know you aren't in support of this, but I am wondering what case would be made to knowingly go into a losing battle like that?
    Presumably they don't think it's a losing battle.  I don't know enough to say what this person is thinking.  I wouldn't waste the time, energy and resources, along with getting the proctology exam on my life choices, just to lose.  
  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AOC has more integrity than the GOP combined.
    A little overstated but sure.  Adam Kinzinger has integrity.  I don't think she always makes the right stands but we know where she stands. 
    do not ever forget that kinzinger voted for trump's agenda 90% of the time. voting to impeach does not nullify the damage that that 90% has done.
    I guess it depends on what you mean by that.  What part of the Trump legislative agenda did Kinz vote for that lacks integrity?  You can have political disagreements and still have integrity and humanity. 
    But he’s caved when confronted with a potential POOTWH primary challenger, in effect ceding a seat to the POOTWH Party. AOC is being primaried and she’s not resigning.
    Because he won't win.  Same issue for Anthony Gonzales. AOC will win.  I don't see what that had to do with integrity though. 
    If he had integrity, he’d fight for his seat and make the case against the POOTWH party. He’s rolling over. No integrity in that.
    See my comment to Static.  He doesn't owe anyone that.  Once his term is over, his service is performed.  
    If currently elected repubs aren’t going to defend the party from POOTWH taking it completely over, then who is? Safe to call him a quitter?

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2021/2/24/22300280/illinois-rep-adam-kinzinger-pro-trump-gop-primary-challenger-catalina-lauf-523900-hits-on-video
    Sure you can call him a quitter.  But he doesn't lack integrity and he doesn't owe any of us anything after his term his up.  That's my point.  He has to take care of his family first and foremost.  That's what I would do. 
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