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OnWis97

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

Philly NJ

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

source: Gallop

Ukrainians’ current attitudes toward the war represent a decisive shift from where they stood after it began in late February 2022. Surveyed in the months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukrainians were defiant, with 73% preferring fighting until victory.

In 2023, support for fighting until victory slipped, but more than twice as many Ukrainians favored a continued fight (63%) over a negotiated peace (27%). Fatigue has intensified this year, with support for negotiated peace rising to 52%, the first time it has reached a majority.

OnWis97

That doesn't answer that plus I've been hearing about WWIII since the moment there was any resistance to Russia.

Philly NJ

Merkin Baller said:

If I had a nickel for every time the "common sense" crowd declared that assisting Ukraine was going to lead to WWIII / nuclear war I would have a f ton of nickels. 

What is the next move when Russian proxies kill US forces in the Middle East?

Gern Blansten

Philly NJ said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

source: Gallop

Ukrainians’ current attitudes toward the war represent a decisive shift from where they stood after it began in late February 2022. Surveyed in the months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukrainians were defiant, with 73% preferring fighting until victory.

In 2023, support for fighting until victory slipped, but more than twice as many Ukrainians favored a continued fight (63%) over a negotiated peace (27%). Fatigue has intensified this year, with support for negotiated peace rising to 52%, the first time it has reached a majority.

Supporting negotiating peace is a lot different than giving up and letting Russia take part of your country. Let's see the results of that question.

Merkin Baller

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

It's Kremlin propaganda that the American right wing media apparatus is all too happy to disseminate. 

Merkin Baller

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

If I had a nickel for every time the "common sense" crowd declared that assisting Ukraine was going to lead to WWIII / nuclear war I would have a f ton of nickels. 

What is the next move when Russian proxies kill US forces in the Middle East?

The incoming administration of pedophiles that you're cheering on will have an answer for it, I'm sure. 

#TeamPedo 

OnWis97

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

It's Kremlin propaganda that the American right wing media apparatus is all too happy to disseminate. 

That's how it seems. Even after all this time it seems weird to say this but it really feels like the GOP just loves them some Russia.

Merkin Baller

OnWis97 said:

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

It's Kremlin propaganda that the American right wing media apparatus is all too happy to disseminate. 

That's how it seems. Even after all this time it seems weird to say this but it really feels like the GOP just loves them some Russia.

A few Republicans (who still have backbones) were voicing their concerns about other Rs parroting Russian propaganda at least as far back as April. 

Philly NJ

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

source: Gallop

Ukrainians’ current attitudes toward the war represent a decisive shift from where they stood after it began in late February 2022. Surveyed in the months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukrainians were defiant, with 73% preferring fighting until victory.

In 2023, support for fighting until victory slipped, but more than twice as many Ukrainians favored a continued fight (63%) over a negotiated peace (27%). Fatigue has intensified this year, with support for negotiated peace rising to 52%, the first time it has reached a majority.

Supporting negotiating peace is a lot different than giving up and letting Russia take part of your country. Let's see the results of that question.

I haven't heard anyone of authority say give up.  Should have been negotiating a long time ago.

Gern Blansten

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

source: Gallop

Ukrainians’ current attitudes toward the war represent a decisive shift from where they stood after it began in late February 2022. Surveyed in the months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukrainians were defiant, with 73% preferring fighting until victory.

In 2023, support for fighting until victory slipped, but more than twice as many Ukrainians favored a continued fight (63%) over a negotiated peace (27%). Fatigue has intensified this year, with support for negotiated peace rising to 52%, the first time it has reached a majority.

Supporting negotiating peace is a lot different than giving up and letting Russia take part of your country. Let's see the results of that question.

I haven't heard anyone of authority say give up.  Should have been negotiating a long time ago.

Or, you know, maybe Russia shouldn't have invaded their country.

If someone breaks into your house do you negotiate with them to leave? Or just let them stay?

OnWis97

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

It's Kremlin propaganda that the American right wing media apparatus is all too happy to disseminate. 

That's how it seems. Even after all this time it seems weird to say this but it really feels like the GOP just loves them some Russia.

A few Republicans (who still have backbones) were voicing their concerns about other Rs parroting Russian propaganda at least as far back as April. 

"America First." 
--Russian stooges trying to convince you they put America first.

teskeinc

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

source: Gallop

Ukrainians’ current attitudes toward the war represent a decisive shift from where they stood after it began in late February 2022. Surveyed in the months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukrainians were defiant, with 73% preferring fighting until victory.

In 2023, support for fighting until victory slipped, but more than twice as many Ukrainians favored a continued fight (63%) over a negotiated peace (27%). Fatigue has intensified this year, with support for negotiated peace rising to 52%, the first time it has reached a majority.

Supporting negotiating peace is a lot different than giving up and letting Russia take part of your country. Let's see the results of that question.

I haven't heard anyone of authority say give up.  Should have been negotiating a long time ago.

Unfortunately the Democrats don’t have the mental capacity to negotiate a deal. Can’t even get a temporary ceasefire in Gaza. Unqualified to lead or govern anything.

teskeinc

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

source: Gallop

Ukrainians’ current attitudes toward the war represent a decisive shift from where they stood after it began in late February 2022. Surveyed in the months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukrainians were defiant, with 73% preferring fighting until victory.

In 2023, support for fighting until victory slipped, but more than twice as many Ukrainians favored a continued fight (63%) over a negotiated peace (27%). Fatigue has intensified this year, with support for negotiated peace rising to 52%, the first time it has reached a majority.

Supporting negotiating peace is a lot different than giving up and letting Russia take part of your country. Let's see the results of that question.

I haven't heard anyone of authority say give up.  Should have been negotiating a long time ago.

Or, you know, maybe Russia shouldn't have invaded their country.

If someone breaks into your house do you negotiate with them to leave? Or just let them stay?

You defend your own house. Ukraine couldn’t defend their own country. Over the course of history if you can’t defend your country you lose it. 

Hawk123

teskeinc said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

source: Gallop

Ukrainians’ current attitudes toward the war represent a decisive shift from where they stood after it began in late February 2022. Surveyed in the months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukrainians were defiant, with 73% preferring fighting until victory.

In 2023, support for fighting until victory slipped, but more than twice as many Ukrainians favored a continued fight (63%) over a negotiated peace (27%). Fatigue has intensified this year, with support for negotiated peace rising to 52%, the first time it has reached a majority.

Supporting negotiating peace is a lot different than giving up and letting Russia take part of your country. Let's see the results of that question.

I haven't heard anyone of authority say give up.  Should have been negotiating a long time ago.

Or, you know, maybe Russia shouldn't have invaded their country.

If someone breaks into your house do you negotiate with them to leave? Or just let them stay?

You defend your own house. Ukraine couldn’t defend their own country. Over the course of history if you can’t defend your country you lose it. 

The Nazi viewpoint. Angry white man projecting his anger onto others as a show of masculinity. 

mickeyrat

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

source: Gallop

Ukrainians’ current attitudes toward the war represent a decisive shift from where they stood after it began in late February 2022. Surveyed in the months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukrainians were defiant, with 73% preferring fighting until victory.

In 2023, support for fighting until victory slipped, but more than twice as many Ukrainians favored a continued fight (63%) over a negotiated peace (27%). Fatigue has intensified this year, with support for negotiated peace rising to 52%, the first time it has reached a majority.

Supporting negotiating peace is a lot different than giving up and letting Russia take part of your country. Let's see the results of that question.

I haven't heard anyone of authority say give up.  Should have been negotiating a long time ago.

Or, you know, maybe Russia shouldn't have invaded their country.

If someone breaks into your house do you negotiate with them to leave? Or just let them stay?

You defend your own house. Ukraine couldn’t defend their own country. Over the course of history if you can’t defend your country you lose it. 

The Nazi viewpoint. Angry white man projecting his anger onto others as a show of masculinity. 

whats interesting about the take above yours is it forgets that Kiev was supposed to fall in 3 days. They're about to enter year 3 and Kiev still stands. That a country with no Navy forced anothers fleet to move . And if Ukraine never gave up their nukes, would they be in the position they are in today?

Hawk123

mickeyrat said:

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

source: Gallop

Ukrainians’ current attitudes toward the war represent a decisive shift from where they stood after it began in late February 2022. Surveyed in the months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukrainians were defiant, with 73% preferring fighting until victory.

In 2023, support for fighting until victory slipped, but more than twice as many Ukrainians favored a continued fight (63%) over a negotiated peace (27%). Fatigue has intensified this year, with support for negotiated peace rising to 52%, the first time it has reached a majority.

Supporting negotiating peace is a lot different than giving up and letting Russia take part of your country. Let's see the results of that question.

I haven't heard anyone of authority say give up.  Should have been negotiating a long time ago.

Or, you know, maybe Russia shouldn't have invaded their country.

If someone breaks into your house do you negotiate with them to leave? Or just let them stay?

You defend your own house. Ukraine couldn’t defend their own country. Over the course of history if you can’t defend your country you lose it. 

The Nazi viewpoint. Angry white man projecting his anger onto others as a show of masculinity. 

whats interesting about the take above yours is it forgets that Kiev was supposed to fall in 3 days. They're about to enter year 3 and Kiev still stands. That a country with no Navy forced anothers fleet to move . And if Ukraine never gave up their nukes, would they be in the position they are in today?

You’re right. But it’s easier to give off the impression that you’re a tough guy. Tough guys are ok with maternity wards being bombed and babies and elderly being raped. 

Hawk123

Taxpayer money to cover up sexual assault allegations, hopefully that’s an efficient use of government money by DOGE standards. 

“Marjorie Taylor Greene made a sensational allegation that her Republican colleagues in Congress have covered up “sexual harassment and assault claims” by paying off victims with taxpayer money.  

The MAGA diehard made the revelation as a growing number of GOP politicians have expressed reservations about Donald Trump’s choice to appoint the scandal-scarred ex-lawmaker Matt Gaetz to be his attorney general.”

teskeinc

mickeyrat said:

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

OnWis97 said:

I don't quite understand the logic why Russia's unencumbered conquest of Ukraine is the only way WWIII can be prevented. 

source: Gallop

Ukrainians’ current attitudes toward the war represent a decisive shift from where they stood after it began in late February 2022. Surveyed in the months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukrainians were defiant, with 73% preferring fighting until victory.

In 2023, support for fighting until victory slipped, but more than twice as many Ukrainians favored a continued fight (63%) over a negotiated peace (27%). Fatigue has intensified this year, with support for negotiated peace rising to 52%, the first time it has reached a majority.

Supporting negotiating peace is a lot different than giving up and letting Russia take part of your country. Let's see the results of that question.

I haven't heard anyone of authority say give up.  Should have been negotiating a long time ago.

Or, you know, maybe Russia shouldn't have invaded their country.

If someone breaks into your house do you negotiate with them to leave? Or just let them stay?

You defend your own house. Ukraine couldn’t defend their own country. Over the course of history if you can’t defend your country you lose it. 

The Nazi viewpoint. Angry white man projecting his anger onto others as a show of masculinity. 

whats interesting about the take above yours is it forgets that Kiev was supposed to fall in 3 days. They're about to enter year 3 and Kiev still stands. That a country with no Navy forced anothers fleet to move . And if Ukraine never gave up their nukes, would they be in the position they are in today?

What’s your solution then? Another Afghanistan where you pump billions of our money for weapons contracts for Russia and Ukraine to kill and maim each other for 20 more years? Just wait it out until Putin dies of old age?

OnWis97

Let the wookie win.