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mickeyrat

https://twitter.com/7Veritas4/status/1719869957767319904?t=RzmvP7nsoKMSnd7PTjDU3A&s=19

mickeyrat

mickeyrat said:

https://twitter.com/7Veritas4/status/1719869957767319904?t=RzmvP7nsoKMSnd7PTjDU3A&s=19

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1719916841467089405?t=t2lbgmzjvMX96Ynb88AwHA&s=19

mickeyrat

this fucking guy I swesr.....

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2023/11/02/u-s-rep-jim-jordan-issues-warning-to-ag-investigating-conservative-donor-leonard-leo/?emci=8015a2c7-f078-ee11-b004-00224832eb73&emdi=b07dd498-6679-ee11-b004-00224832eb73&ceid=312401

 

U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan issues warning to AG investigating conservative donor Leonard Leo

By: Nick Evans - November 2, 2023 4:50 am

Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, speaks to reporters as House Republicans hold a caucus meeting at the Longworth House Office Building on Oct. 13, 2023 in Washington, D.C. (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan, R-OH, is leveraging his leadership of the House Judiciary Committee to discourage an investigation into a conservative mega donor.

Leonard Leo has gone from The Federalist Society to GOP judicial whisperer to the head of a sprawling, well-funded network of dark money organizations. Those political non-profits are at the center of the dispute. According to Politico, Washington D.C. Attorney General Brian Schwalb has begun investigating whether payments from one of the dark money groups to a Leo-controlled for profit entity violated the law.

In a letter to the attorney general, Jordan and House Oversight and Accountability chairman U.S. Rep. James Comer, R-KY, alleged the investigation was politically motivated. They demanded access to documents and communications related to the inquiry, and ordered Schwalb to schedule a briefing for the committee.

Leo’s political spending is particularly relevant with Issue 1 appearing on the ballot in November. So far, Leo’s Concord Fund has contributed $18 million to oppose the reproductive rights amendment.

Who’s Leonard Leo?

Leonard Leo rose to prominence through The Federalist Society. Under his stewardship, the conservative lawyers network became a kind of farm league for Leo’s efforts to push the state and federal judiciary to the right.

Leo played a significant role in advising George W. Bush’s U.S. Supreme Court’s nominations, but his influence grew substantially with the nomination and eventual election of Donald Trump.  Leo was responsible for drafting the U.S. Supreme Court shortlists Trump touted during his campaign. All three of the justices Trump appointed during his tenure came at Leo’s recommendation.

Outside of The Federalist Society, he helped establish the Judicial Confirmation Network in 2005. That nonprofit’s first task was running a campaign in favor of now-U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Robert’s nomination. The same organization promoted the nominations of conservative Justices Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. It also campaigned against the Merrick Garland’s Supreme Court nomination.

As its mission grew, the organization changed its name to the Judicial Crisis Network. In 2019, JCN changed its name again — this time to The Concord Fund.

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mickeyrat

and this piece of shit

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2023/11/02/tuberville-to-seek-floor-vote-on-no-2-marine-leader-after-commandant-hospitalized/?emci=8015a2c7-f078-ee11-b004-00224832eb73&emdi=b07dd498-6679-ee11-b004-00224832eb73&ceid=312401

 

Tuberville to seek floor vote on No. 2 Marine leader after commandant hospitalized

By: Ashley Murray - November 2, 2023 4:35 am

WASHINGTON — Sen. Tommy Tuberville, who for months has been blocking hundreds of military promotions in protest of a Pentagon abortion policy, plans to call a floor vote on the nominee for second-in-command of the U.S. Marine Corps after its top leader Gen. Eric M. Smith suffered a health emergency Sunday.

President Joe Biden nominated Mahoney in July.

“The vote could be as soon as Thursday,” said Steven Stafford, spokesperson for Tuberville’s office.

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Lerxst1992

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

mrussel1

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

Gov't doesn't ban free speech, even objectionable speech.  Gov't doesn't ban people who exercise free speech. Now I guess Cornell can because they are private, but it would still run into Constitutional challenges.  

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

Gov't doesn't ban free speech, even objectionable speech.  Gov't doesn't ban people who exercise free speech. Now I guess Cornell can because they are private, but it would still run into Constitutional challenges.  

Not to mention Israel’s aggressive efforts to curtail free speech on college campuses of any speech critical of Israel, including surveillance and intimidation of Israelis who study abroad. Tenants of a democracy, right?

mrussel1

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

I have found through my own experience of seeing things online that this is where the conversation ultimately goes to in a nano-second. any time you say anything about being supportive of Palestinians the knee jerk from many is "ANTISEMITE!". that's what makes these conversations so impossible. I can be pro-Palestine and anti-Israeli government and be pro-Jewish all at the same time. But some are so hell bent on being the victim. MSM is not helping at ALL. 

Go Beavers

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

I think there’s an assumption being made that these college students are all liberal. It seems to be a default as an outcome of how polarized the Israeli - Palestinian is. 

Lerxst1992

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

it’s not my positioning, its a well known, controversial slogan that at best is at odds with peace. I am only referring about those students singing a song of fucking hatred. And two of your three interpretations apparently imply the removal of Israelis, so if that's not cleansing, if you think it’s absurd, where are they going to live, if not between the river and the sea?

Glad the liberals are so woke.  

 

static111

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

it’s not my positioning, its a well known, controversial slogan that at best is at odds with peace. I am only referring about those students singing a song of fucking hatred. And two of your three interpretations apparently imply the removal of Israelis, so if that's not cleansing, if you think it’s absurd, where are they going to live, if not between the river and the sea?

Glad the liberals are so woke.  

 

If Gaza is good enough for Palestinians it is certainly good enough for Israelis.  Maybe they just need to spend a few years living in each others shoes?  Swap living conditions and then come to the table in good faith.  I'm sure both sides could learn a lot.

mrussel1

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

it’s not my positioning, its a well known, controversial slogan that at best is at odds with peace. I am only referring about those students singing a song of fucking hatred. And two of your three interpretations apparently imply the removal of Israelis, so if that's not cleansing, if you think it’s absurd, where are they going to live, if not between the river and the sea?

Glad the liberals are so woke.  

 

I don't think you know what ethnic cleansing means.  For example, in the 19th century,  there was a serious movement to relocate Africans to Liberia.  Under your definition,  it appears you think that's cleansing.  It's not.  What Milosevic tried is cleansing.  Don't call me woke because you either misunderstand or choose not to understand differences in words. 

Halifax2TheMax

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

it’s not my positioning, its a well known, controversial slogan that at best is at odds with peace. I am only referring about those students singing a song of fucking hatred. And two of your three interpretations apparently imply the removal of Israelis, so if that's not cleansing, if you think it’s absurd, where are they going to live, if not between the river and the sea?

Glad the liberals are so woke.  

 

No mention of how or what Israeli children are taught about Palestinians and Palestine in public schools in Israel? No mention of the songs the orthodox sing? When you criticize Israel for its past and current atrocities, I’ll take your posts more seriously but your refusal to acknowledge that it takes two to tango is telling.

Where would Israel be without the $3B+ of economic aid and another $2B-3B in military aid from US taxpayers? Do you ever wonder how quickly they might come to the negotiating table if it were pulled? Conversely, what if the US invested the same in Palestine and created a level playing field? Think things might be different?

Lerxst1992

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

it’s not my positioning, its a well known, controversial slogan that at best is at odds with peace. I am only referring about those students singing a song of fucking hatred. And two of your three interpretations apparently imply the removal of Israelis, so if that's not cleansing, if you think it’s absurd, where are they going to live, if not between the river and the sea?

Glad the liberals are so woke.  

 

I don't think you know what ethnic cleansing means.  For example, in the 19th century,  there was a serious movement to relocate Africans to Liberia.  Under your definition,  it appears you think that's cleansing.  It's not.  What Milosevic tried is cleansing.  Don't call me woke because you either misunderstand or choose not to understand differences in words. 

Woke was a comment at the liberal side of the forum, to no one in specific. I should have been more specific 

Yes,I used the term cleansing loosely, because of the history of the Jews in WWII as well as their fate against the Romans. And the history of the world clearly not accepting these people anywhere is well documented,  so I think that thought process is well justified in this case, as relocation anywhere other than Israel has been impossible

However, back to the main point, to see wealthy college students barely old enough to shave singing the current chants inspired by Hamas was horrifying, whether or not prior generations claim to have some sort of more benevolent inspiration for that jingle. 

If Israelis believe that song is about the entire destruction of their homeland, is it not horrifying seeing crowds of rich American kids chant it? That’s the woke angle, and it’s directed at all the liberals here. No one was outraged here Oct seven, and no one was outraged to hear wealthy college kids sing that offensive song. DEI supposedly tells us to consider how words are interpreted, except in one case in the far left world.

static111

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

it’s not my positioning, its a well known, controversial slogan that at best is at odds with peace. I am only referring about those students singing a song of fucking hatred. And two of your three interpretations apparently imply the removal of Israelis, so if that's not cleansing, if you think it’s absurd, where are they going to live, if not between the river and the sea?

Glad the liberals are so woke.  

 

I don't think you know what ethnic cleansing means.  For example, in the 19th century,  there was a serious movement to relocate Africans to Liberia.  Under your definition,  it appears you think that's cleansing.  It's not.  What Milosevic tried is cleansing.  Don't call me woke because you either misunderstand or choose not to understand differences in words. 

Woke was a comment at the liberal side of the forum, to no one in specific. I should have been more specific 

Yes,I used the term cleansing loosely, because of the history of the Jews in WWII as well as their fate against the Romans. And the history of the world clearly not accepting these people anywhere is well documented,  so I think that thought process is well justified in this case, as relocation anywhere other than Israel has been impossible

However, back to the main point, to see wealthy college students barely old enough to shave singing the current chants inspired by Hamas was horrifying, whether or not prior generations claim to have some sort of more benevolent inspiration for that jingle. 

If Israelis believe that song is about the entire destruction of their homeland, is it not horrifying seeing crowds of rich American kids chant it? That’s the woke angle, and it’s directed at all the liberals here. No one was outraged here Oct seven, and no one was outraged to hear wealthy college kids sing that offensive song. DEI supposedly tells us to consider how words are interpreted, except in one case in the far left world.

It's hard to be outraged in a world full of terrorism and especially in the US domestic Terrorism and multiple mass shootings weekly.

Taking the long view of the Israel/Palestine conflict, it is hard to get outraged over anything, because it's been going on so long.  Any strike by any Palestinian group that takes the lives of civilians is labelled terrorism and any strike by the IDF that takes the lives of civilians is labeled as defense.

Nobody likes what happened on October 7th, nobody likes Israels disproportionate response against Palestinian civilians.  

I understand that the express goal that day by Hamas was killing civilians or otherwise.  However Israel has killed civilians by 10:1 at least since Oct 7 and I don't see that making Israelis, or Palestinians or anyone in the region safer.

gimmesometruth27

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

I have found through my own experience of seeing things online that this is where the conversation ultimately goes to in a nano-second. any time you say anything about being supportive of Palestinians the knee jerk from many is "ANTISEMITE!". that's what makes these conversations so impossible. I can be pro-Palestine and anti-Israeli government and be pro-Jewish all at the same time. But some are so hell bent on being the victim. MSM is not helping at ALL. 

don't forget that if you say you support palestinians, people will say you support hamas, and are thus an anti semite, which is not the case. i got called an anti semite on here because i said i hated netenyahu and the likud party platform when they sunk that palestinian flotilla back in 2010 or 2011. you can be pro-palestinian and pro israel, and at the same time be anti likud party and anti hamas. 

gimmesometruth27

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

I have found through my own experience of seeing things online that this is where the conversation ultimately goes to in a nano-second. any time you say anything about being supportive of Palestinians the knee jerk from many is "ANTISEMITE!". that's what makes these conversations so impossible. I can be pro-Palestine and anti-Israeli government and be pro-Jewish all at the same time. But some are so hell bent on being the victim. MSM is not helping at ALL. 

don't forget that if you say you support palestinians, people will say you support hamas, and are thus an anti semite, which is not the case. i got called an anti semite on here because i said i hated netenyahu and the likud party platform when they sunk that palestinian flotilla back in 2010 or 2011. you can be pro-palestinian and pro israel, and at the same time be anti likud party and anti hamas. 

it is the same thing as being pro america but anti maga.

mrussel1

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

it’s not my positioning, its a well known, controversial slogan that at best is at odds with peace. I am only referring about those students singing a song of fucking hatred. And two of your three interpretations apparently imply the removal of Israelis, so if that's not cleansing, if you think it’s absurd, where are they going to live, if not between the river and the sea?

Glad the liberals are so woke.  

 

I don't think you know what ethnic cleansing means.  For example, in the 19th century,  there was a serious movement to relocate Africans to Liberia.  Under your definition,  it appears you think that's cleansing.  It's not.  What Milosevic tried is cleansing.  Don't call me woke because you either misunderstand or choose not to understand differences in words. 

Woke was a comment at the liberal side of the forum, to no one in specific. I should have been more specific 

Yes,I used the term cleansing loosely, because of the history of the Jews in WWII as well as their fate against the Romans. And the history of the world clearly not accepting these people anywhere is well documented,  so I think that thought process is well justified in this case, as relocation anywhere other than Israel has been impossible

However, back to the main point, to see wealthy college students barely old enough to shave singing the current chants inspired by Hamas was horrifying, whether or not prior generations claim to have some sort of more benevolent inspiration for that jingle. 

If Israelis believe that song is about the entire destruction of their homeland, is it not horrifying seeing crowds of rich American kids chant it? That’s the woke angle, and it’s directed at all the liberals here. No one was outraged here Oct seven, and no one was outraged to hear wealthy college kids sing that offensive song. DEI supposedly tells us to consider how words are interpreted, except in one case in the far left world.

Well the last admonishment on words here is interesting, as you didn't consider the proper definition of ethnic cleansing.   Removal from a land is not cleansing.  Using a term like ethnic cleansing "loosely" is irresponsible.   Let's also be clear that I support the right of Israel to exist, peacefully.  

So back to the point, I again think you are misrepresenting the song.  It's not a Hamas inspired song.  I'm pretty sure this song existed as a Palestinian freedom song well before the advent of Hamas.  You can check me on that.  I do know that Hamas was formed in the late 80s.  So if that's true, then I don't know how you say that it's Hamas-inspired.  Therefore, because the song is used in many ways, to conclude that these college kids think Jews should be murdered en masse because they sing that song, is a HUGE jump and now you are claiming to understand what every one of these kids both think and believe.  And sorry, you can't do that.  

Go Beavers

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/leon-cooperman-students-israel-protests/index.html

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is blasting college students for protesting against Israel, joining a growing list of powerful university donors to speak out on the issue.

“These kids in college have sh*t for brains,” Cooperman told CNN in a phone interview.

We need to ban college.  Every student should be jailed.  Then we can finally ban kids. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Hey I get the sarcasm, but we literally have “liberal” college students at Cornell this week chanting in support of ethic cleansing by citing the River to sea song. Are we going to state they don’t understand what they are singing for? If so, yes they should be banned.

no race or group of people has been ethnically cleansed more than the Israelis and Jews. Yet you read this forum, and there is only crying about a direct retaliation to a 9/11 level attack on Israel. Why is this country treated differently ? Why is it ok to sing about ethnic cleaning against Israel - that is clear in the first few seconds of the video attached to that news article? Why are no liberals here demanding Hamas surrender?

it’s sad that I need to stand with our conservative posters. Yes we should ban the college kids who are learning this hatred from somewhere.

JB is 100% correct. Either the students are singing in support of ethnic cleansing, or they have $hit for brains. Which is it?

BTW - I don't totally agree with your positioning of River to Sea to be an ethnic cleansing song.  That song has been in use for generations, even before Hamas and others adopted it.  It can viewed a number of ways, as a Free Palestine, Single state solution, or in worse cases, the removal of Jews.  And then finally, your adoption which is ethnic cleansing.  So to be clear, I don't believe for one fucking second that every student that supports Palestine at these rallies is pro-genocide.  That's absurd.  

it’s not my positioning, its a well known, controversial slogan that at best is at odds with peace. I am only referring about those students singing a song of fucking hatred. And two of your three interpretations apparently imply the removal of Israelis, so if that's not cleansing, if you think it’s absurd, where are they going to live, if not between the river and the sea?

Glad the liberals are so woke.  

 

I don't think you know what ethnic cleansing means.  For example, in the 19th century,  there was a serious movement to relocate Africans to Liberia.  Under your definition,  it appears you think that's cleansing.  It's not.  What Milosevic tried is cleansing.  Don't call me woke because you either misunderstand or choose not to understand differences in words. 

Woke was a comment at the liberal side of the forum, to no one in specific. I should have been more specific 

Yes,I used the term cleansing loosely, because of the history of the Jews in WWII as well as their fate against the Romans. And the history of the world clearly not accepting these people anywhere is well documented,  so I think that thought process is well justified in this case, as relocation anywhere other than Israel has been impossible

However, back to the main point, to see wealthy college students barely old enough to shave singing the current chants inspired by Hamas was horrifying, whether or not prior generations claim to have some sort of more benevolent inspiration for that jingle. 

If Israelis believe that song is about the entire destruction of their homeland, is it not horrifying seeing crowds of rich American kids chant it? That’s the woke angle, and it’s directed at all the liberals here. No one was outraged here Oct seven, and no one was outraged to hear wealthy college kids sing that offensive song. DEI supposedly tells us to consider how words are interpreted, except in one case in the far left world.

Being the gatekeeper of outrage doesn’t put a person above anyone else.