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tempo_n_groove

mickeyrat said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4236826-senate-republicans-watch-mccarthy-ouster-with-alarm-disbelief/

 

Senate Republicans watch McCarthy ouster with alarm, disbelief 

by Alexander Bolton - 10/04/23 6:00 AM ET

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Greg Nash

Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) holds a press conference after being vacated from the Speakership on Tuesday, October 3, 2023.

Senate Republicans are watching the rebellion against Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) in the House with serious alarm and are concerned over what the chaos will mean for the GOP’s brand in the 2024 election.  

GOP senators are worried about the party’s ability to govern over the next 13 months and whether they’ll be able to avoid a government shutdown later this year. 

They also feel anxious about the growing radicalization of their party’s base.  

The growing strength of far-right populists in the House raises disconcerting questions about how next year’s primaries will play out for the GOP and whether candidates with more appeal with swing voters can advance to the general election. 

“These insurgents have no plan and now they’ve created even more chaos and it’s not good for the House, it’s not good for Republicans and they have no clear path forward,” fumed Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a member of the Senate GOP leadership team.  

“A handful [of] House members just want to blow up the institution and themselves in the process. Sad,” Cornyn posted on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, immediately after the vote to ouster McCarthy.  

Cornyn said the “unprecedented” situation creates deep uncertainty about what to expect in the coming days.  

“My understanding is with no Speaker, the only two things they can do, they can either elect another Speaker or adjourn,” he said.  

Sen. Roger Wicker (Miss.), the top-ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the successful coup against McCarthy “stinks, and it’s not good for the country.” 

He also said “it can’t possibly help” getting the annual defense appropriations bill or annual Defense Department reauthorization passed before Jan. 1.  

Senate Republican Whip John Thune (S.D.) somberly called it “a really unfortunate circumstance for the House.” 

But he said there’s not much Senate Republicans can do about the situation except to watch the messy aftermath unfold.  

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I don't know what's so alarming?  The writing was on the wall for this one.

The Juggler

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

Wait...what? "The dems don't get a free pass"? Are you kidding? Maga brought this upon themselves. They are the majority. McCarthy is not someone that can be trusted. They'd be foolish to help him after all he's done this year. I don't think it is fair to even insinuate the democrats played a role in this dumpster fire clown show.

And now these idiots are taking a week off?! With another shutdown looming in 40 days or so? Further proof that maga does not know how to govern. 

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

yep...unpredictable as usual. Whatever the stupidest course is the magats will take it

mrussel1

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

Whatever dude.  That's absurd.  D's are supposed to swoop in and save him, after he reneged on the debt deal?  After he allowed this stupid impeachment to go forward?  After his first petty act as Speaker was to remove Schiff from the Intelligence Committee (where he was previously chair)?  After he goes on tv on Sat/Sun and blamed D's for the impeding shutdown AFTER they saved him by voting for a bill he put forth?  Give me a break.  In what world is the opposing party supposed to prop up your Speaker?

static111

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

I agree with a lot of your takes but not this one.  Those idiots and Kevin brought this on theirselves.  There was a negotiated agreement with Dems and Biden that he went back on, a meritless impeachment inquiry, and with all that it wasn't far right enough for the radicals.  This is literally all on the GOP.  It isn't on the Dems to save them at this point.  They have went back on their word too many times and the dems and the country have nothing to gain by making  another good faith compromise with the bad faith GOP.

Halifax2TheMax

MAGADUMB owns this and yet they’re still afraid of the 800 pound elephant in the room. They still don’t have the balls, any of them, to lay the blame where it squarely belongs, on POOTWH. Kevie, Maggie Three Names, Matt Getts Off, all of those deplorables are acting on behalf of one person and one person only. And they’re still afraid of him. All those repub senators trying to lay it all at Matt Getts Off’s feet? Fucking cowards. Must be some juicy tapes in a safe somewhere.

Yea, sure. Blame dems. Both sides.JHFC.

josevolution

static111 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

I agree with a lot of your takes but not this one.  Those idiots and Kevin brought this on theirselves.  There was a negotiated agreement with Dems and Biden that he went back on, a meritless impeachment inquiry, and with all that it wasn't far right enough for the radicals.  This is literally all on the GOP.  It isn't on the Dems to save them at this point.  They have went back on their word too many times and the dems and the country have nothing to gain by making  another good faith compromise with the bad faith GOP.

Not only that Dems saved him by avoiding the shutdown and then he goes on ABC this past Sunday and throws the Dems under bus! And he has the balls to expect him to be bailed out again by Democrats 😂😂😂

The Juggler

Kevn McCarthy is not an honorable man. Maga is not an honorable party. This chaos has been years in the making. Their mess is not the Democrats responsibility to clean up. They own all of it. 

HughFreakingDillon

imagine trump with the gavel. 

the clown show of american politics continues...

The Juggler

HughFreakingDillon said:

imagine trump with the gavel. 

the clown show of american politics continues...

Ha...I saw he's not even eligible since he is under indictment. There's some kind of rule that would prevent someone under federal indictment with a potential to serve more than 2 years in prison from being speaker. Of course Marjorie Greene already announced she's supporting him though.

Gern Blansten

That was shitty to boot Pelosi out of her office. What a bunch of fucking crybabies

mrussel1

Gern Blansten said:

That was shitty to boot Pelosi out of her office. What a bunch of fucking crybabies

Super petty thing to do, day 0, and while she is in CA for Feinstein's funeral.  

Merkin Baller

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

That was shitty to boot Pelosi out of her office. What a bunch of fucking crybabies

Super petty thing to do, day 0, and while she is in CA for Feinstein's funeral.  

Feinstein shouldn't have died.

This blaming of the GOP for what the GOP does needs to stop. 

The Juggler

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

That was shitty to boot Pelosi out of her office. What a bunch of fucking crybabies

Super petty thing to do, day 0, and while she is in CA for Feinstein's funeral.  

Feinstein shouldn't have died.

This blaming of the GOP for what the GOP does needs to stop. 

Or at least she could've picked a better time to die. I mean, jesus christ....these democrats, I'll tell ya....

Halifax2TheMax

The cult runs deep.

Go Beavers

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4236826-senate-republicans-watch-mccarthy-ouster-with-alarm-disbelief/

 

Senate Republicans watch McCarthy ouster with alarm, disbelief 

by Alexander Bolton - 10/04/23 6:00 AM ET

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Greg Nash

Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) holds a press conference after being vacated from the Speakership on Tuesday, October 3, 2023.

Senate Republicans are watching the rebellion against Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) in the House with serious alarm and are concerned over what the chaos will mean for the GOP’s brand in the 2024 election.  

GOP senators are worried about the party’s ability to govern over the next 13 months and whether they’ll be able to avoid a government shutdown later this year. 

They also feel anxious about the growing radicalization of their party’s base.  

The growing strength of far-right populists in the House raises disconcerting questions about how next year’s primaries will play out for the GOP and whether candidates with more appeal with swing voters can advance to the general election. 

“These insurgents have no plan and now they’ve created even more chaos and it’s not good for the House, it’s not good for Republicans and they have no clear path forward,” fumed Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a member of the Senate GOP leadership team.  

“A handful [of] House members just want to blow up the institution and themselves in the process. Sad,” Cornyn posted on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, immediately after the vote to ouster McCarthy.  

Cornyn said the “unprecedented” situation creates deep uncertainty about what to expect in the coming days.  

“My understanding is with no Speaker, the only two things they can do, they can either elect another Speaker or adjourn,” he said.  

Sen. Roger Wicker (Miss.), the top-ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the successful coup against McCarthy “stinks, and it’s not good for the country.” 

He also said “it can’t possibly help” getting the annual defense appropriations bill or annual Defense Department reauthorization passed before Jan. 1.  

Senate Republican Whip John Thune (S.D.) somberly called it “a really unfortunate circumstance for the House.” 

But he said there’s not much Senate Republicans can do about the situation except to watch the messy aftermath unfold.  

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I don't know what's so alarming?  The writing was on the wall for this one.

It’s like being in disbelief after the Bears lose. 

Lerxst1992

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

Whatever dude.  That's absurd.  D's are supposed to swoop in and save him, after he reneged on the debt deal?  After he allowed this stupid impeachment to go forward?  After his first petty act as Speaker was to remove Schiff from the Intelligence Committee (where he was previously chair)?  After he goes on tv on Sat/Sun and blamed D's for the impeding shutdown AFTER they saved him by voting for a bill he put forth?  Give me a break.  In what world is the opposing party supposed to prop up your Speaker?

Yes the backstabbing after they had a CR deal was likely the last straw with McCarthy, but unless they made a deal with moderates to get a moderate speaker, the replacement could be Gym or any of the others residing in the crazy wing. Or trump.

mrussel1

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

Whatever dude.  That's absurd.  D's are supposed to swoop in and save him, after he reneged on the debt deal?  After he allowed this stupid impeachment to go forward?  After his first petty act as Speaker was to remove Schiff from the Intelligence Committee (where he was previously chair)?  After he goes on tv on Sat/Sun and blamed D's for the impeding shutdown AFTER they saved him by voting for a bill he put forth?  Give me a break.  In what world is the opposing party supposed to prop up your Speaker?

Yes the backstabbing after they had a CR deal was likely the last straw with McCarthy, but unless they made a deal with moderates to get a moderate speaker, the replacement could be Gym or any of the others residing in the crazy wing. Or trump.

Zero point zero chance it is Trump.  And that's for about a hundred reasons.  Not even sure he's eligible since he is under federal indictment, but that's about reason six why he wouldn't do it. 

Jordan, sure.  Could be him.  I would be very disappointed if the allegedly moderate members voted for him though.  I think Scalise is much more likely, although being diagnosed with blood cancer certainly does not bode well for him.  

Gern Blansten

yeah I'm leaning Scalise...it probably would have been him if McCarthy didn't run anyway

tempo_n_groove

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

Wait...what? "The dems don't get a free pass"? Are you kidding? Maga brought this upon themselves. They are the majority. McCarthy is not someone that can be trusted. They'd be foolish to help him after all he's done this year. I don't think it is fair to even insinuate the democrats played a role in this dumpster fire clown show.

And now these idiots are taking a week off?! With another shutdown looming in 40 days or so? Further proof that maga does not know how to govern. 

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

yep...unpredictable as usual. Whatever the stupidest course is the magats will take it

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

Whatever dude.  That's absurd.  D's are supposed to swoop in and save him, after he reneged on the debt deal?  After he allowed this stupid impeachment to go forward?  After his first petty act as Speaker was to remove Schiff from the Intelligence Committee (where he was previously chair)?  After he goes on tv on Sat/Sun and blamed D's for the impeding shutdown AFTER they saved him by voting for a bill he put forth?  Give me a break.  In what world is the opposing party supposed to prop up your Speaker?

static111 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So McCarthy is gone soon right or Gaetz is blowing smoke?

smoke...the GOP can't elect a speaker without dems so they're stuck

Where there smoke there's fire huh?

I figured he would be gone.

Dems don't get a free pass on this one.  They wanted the chaos too apparently.

I agree with a lot of your takes but not this one.  Those idiots and Kevin brought this on theirselves.  There was a negotiated agreement with Dems and Biden that he went back on, a meritless impeachment inquiry, and with all that it wasn't far right enough for the radicals.  This is literally all on the GOP.  It isn't on the Dems to save them at this point.  They have went back on their word too many times and the dems and the country have nothing to gain by making  another good faith compromise with the bad faith GOP.

I expected this so, hear me out.  If you still disagree I'll listen to the points.

OK, (1)We knew that McCarthy was going to try and be ousted.  (2)He is. (3) Now that he is ousted the whole govt is held hostage pretty much with that spot being vacated.  Something you also knew was going to happen.  (4)Next possible shutdown is November, next month.  Why would you let the congress be in limbo when it took so long for McCarthy to even get voted in?

I get the GOP put themselves there, but being the dems you don't watch it burn or help it burn for that matter and say 'you started this'.  Make it work like they did with this last midnight deal they did to keep us open for a lousy month.  It's a game of chicken that affects our well being.

This is a shitty game of politics that both, yeah both sides, same same, are doing right now which is why they don't get a pass from me.

Ok let's hear it.