It's pretty sad how lackadaisically people are treating them and this moment.
It really is. And once again it is the GOP "leadership" that is failing us.
That Mike Lee fucker is pushing the bullshit "FBI inside job" shit related to January 6th. Fucking unreal.
How many FBI agents were dressed up as MAGA? How many FBI agents were provoking the crowd? Fucking unreal that you can't admit your own government had something to do with January 6th.
so wait. FBI had it in for fuckstick at every turn according to him AND helped prevent the transfer of power?
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Damn just how vile of a POS human he is and how many deplorable’s support him is really stunning! Even after 2020 I thought ok maybe they’ll crawl back into their caves but low & behold they are even worse now!
Support for Trump is growing each and every day because your good ol' boy Biden can't help but fuck it up. You should be blaming the Democrats but instead you vilify Republicans.
What is Biden fucking up? I don't support Joe or Donald, but if Joe was doing such a terrible job, I would rather just not vote than give any support to the completely immoral guy that was born into money and has a very long history of scheming, treachery, cheating and questionable business practices, talk about throwing a vote away.
Damn just how vile of a POS human he is and how many deplorable’s support him is really stunning! Even after 2020 I thought ok maybe they’ll crawl back into their caves but low & behold they are even worse now!
Support for Trump is growing each and every day because your good ol' boy Biden can't help but fuck it up. You should be blaming the Democrats but instead you vilify Republicans.
What is Biden fucking up? I don't support Joe or Donald, but if Joe was doing such a terrible job, I would rather just not vote than give any support to the completely immoral guy that was born into money and has a very long history of scheming, treachery, cheating and questionable business practices, talk about throwing a vote away.
It's pretty sad how lackadaisically people are treating them and this moment.
It really is. And once again it is the GOP "leadership" that is failing us.
That Mike Lee fucker is pushing the bullshit "FBI inside job" shit related to January 6th. Fucking unreal.
How many FBI agents were dressed up as MAGA? How many FBI agents were provoking the crowd? Fucking unreal that you can't admit your own government had something to do with January 6th.
I don't know. How many? Do you have any.... you know... proof or examples?
And how exactly would undercover agents be a defense for the violence?
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
It's pretty sad how lackadaisically people are treating them and this moment.
It really is. And once again it is the GOP "leadership" that is failing us.
That Mike Lee fucker is pushing the bullshit "FBI inside job" shit related to January 6th. Fucking unreal.
How many FBI agents were dressed up as MAGA? How many FBI agents were provoking the crowd? Fucking unreal that you can't admit your own government had something to do with January 6th.
I don't know. How many? Do you have any.... you know... proof or examples?
And how exactly would undercover agents be a defense for the violence?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Because it's totally normal for undercover feds to go around flashing their badges when they're... undercover.
The GOP base couldn't be any more gullible.
He was attempting to tell the American people what was happening. A true hero! He flashed the Badge (vape) at the camera knowing that the tapes would get released and that true patriotards would be able to see the truth so they could continue fighting to take their country and the illegally stollen election back!
The hearings with Wray are just fucking insane. It's hard to believe that there are GOP reps that are as stupid as MTG.
actually, when the whole party platform is now just owning the libs, it isn't that hard at all. they just run bullies and mean girls in districts unopposed. that is how it happens.
Well you got to admit, it ain’t too difficult owning the rotten brains the past 3 years…The fact that the shit for brains President and the rest of the Potatohead Dummies have done so much damage to this country that Donald Trump has a legitimate chance of becoming President again…
The hearings with Wray are just fucking insane. It's hard to believe that there are GOP reps that are as stupid as MTG.
actually, when the whole party platform is now just owning the libs, it isn't that hard at all. they just run bullies and mean girls in districts unopposed. that is how it happens.
Well you got to admit, it ain’t too difficult owning the rotten brains the past 3 years…The fact that the shit for brains President and the rest of the Potatohead Dummies have done so much damage to this country that Donald Trump has a legitimate chance of becoming President again…
Then why do you keep losing election after election? That's not "owning".
The hearings with Wray are just fucking insane. It's hard to believe that there are GOP reps that are as stupid as MTG.
actually, when the whole party platform is now just owning the libs, it isn't that hard at all. they just run bullies and mean girls in districts unopposed. that is how it happens.
Well you got to admit, it ain’t too difficult owning the rotten brains the past 3 years…The fact that the shit for brains President and the rest of the Potatohead Dummies have done so much damage to this country that Donald Trump has a legitimate chance of becoming President again…
If by 'owning the rotten brains' you mean shouting into an echo chamber and getting resounding support, while the rest of the world ignores you and your political side loses its political power (and somehow still shows its ineptitude while doing so), sure, it ain't too difficult at all.
An unwillingness to think critically by a massive cohort of the USA is a much more likely reason Donald Trump has a legitimate chance of becoming President, alongside the fact that incompetence seems to be celebrated by so many, so long as it disagrees with a mainstream narrative. Add in cult mentality, a widespread sense of being ignored (highly exploitable), manufacturing of common enemies to appeal to worst instincts, and yeah, I'd say you're right, but you've got your reasons wrong.
In hindsight, I don't think Hilary Clinton got enough credit for saying the quiet part out loud. Basic decency is rarely on display anymore, and certainly not in a debate setting.
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It's pretty sad how lackadaisically people are treating them and this moment.
It really is. And once again it is the GOP "leadership" that is failing us.
That Mike Lee fucker is pushing the bullshit "FBI inside job" shit related to January 6th. Fucking unreal.
How many FBI agents were dressed up as MAGA? How many FBI agents were provoking the crowd? Fucking unreal that you can't admit your own government had something to do with January 6th.
It's pretty sad how lackadaisically people are treating them and this moment.
It really is. And once again it is the GOP "leadership" that is failing us.
That Mike Lee fucker is pushing the bullshit "FBI inside job" shit related to January 6th. Fucking unreal.
How many FBI agents were dressed up as MAGA? How many FBI agents were provoking the crowd? Fucking unreal that you can't admit your own government had something to do with January 6th.
You have zero proof of it go ahead post the info?
The FBI director refuses to answer if the FBI were in the crowd that day, on multiple occasions. If they weren't in the crowd, why wouldn't he answer the question?
Not only that, but January 6th was two years ago. The American people deserve to know the full truth of what happened that day and that includes how the government was involved. The FBI knew exactly what was going to happen that day as they were surveilling the internet and were watching message boards. We deserve to know the truth. The January 6th committee was a sham. They didn't fully investigate what happened. Their goal was to push the narrative that was it was mostly violent people attacking the capital. That's why they never released the videos we are seeing now. Why did the police escort the violent protesters through the halls? Why did the police move barriers and unlock doors for these violent protesters to enter?
The hearings with Wray are just fucking insane. It's hard to believe that there are GOP reps that are as stupid as MTG.
actually, when the whole party platform is now just owning the libs, it isn't that hard at all. they just run bullies and mean girls in districts unopposed. that is how it happens.
Well you got to admit, it ain’t too difficult owning the rotten brains the past 3 years…The fact that the shit for brains President and the rest of the Potatohead Dummies have done so much damage to this country that Donald Trump has a legitimate chance of becoming President again…
Ok please tell me how your life has been upended since Biden beat shitforbrains orange man and tell me how much better it was for you under TFG?
It's pretty sad how lackadaisically people are treating them and this moment.
It really is. And once again it is the GOP "leadership" that is failing us.
That Mike Lee fucker is pushing the bullshit "FBI inside job" shit related to January 6th. Fucking unreal.
How many FBI agents were dressed up as MAGA? How many FBI agents were provoking the crowd? Fucking unreal that you can't admit your own government had something to do with January 6th.
I don't know. How many? Do you have any.... you know... proof or examples?
And how exactly would undercover agents be a defense for the violence?
Keep embarrassing yourself by defending lies.
Yeah, that and
Why would the FBI help Trump, if the FBI is out to get Trump?
The hearings with Wray are just fucking insane. It's hard to believe that there are GOP reps that are as stupid as MTG.
actually, when the whole party platform is now just owning the libs, it isn't that hard at all. they just run bullies and mean girls in districts unopposed. that is how it happens.
Well you got to admit, it ain’t too difficult owning the rotten brains the past 3 years…The fact that the shit for brains President and the rest of the Potatohead Dummies have done so much damage to this country that Donald Trump has a legitimate chance of becoming President again…
"your political side loses its political power"
You do realize that the Republicans regained control over the House of Representatives after Biden was elected? Funny how a political party wins and you think they are losing political power eh?
It's pretty sad how lackadaisically people are treating them and this moment.
It really is. And once again it is the GOP "leadership" that is failing us.
That Mike Lee fucker is pushing the bullshit "FBI inside job" shit related to January 6th. Fucking unreal.
How many FBI agents were dressed up as MAGA? How many FBI agents were provoking the crowd? Fucking unreal that you can't admit your own government had something to do with January 6th.
You have zero proof of it go ahead post the info?
The FBI director refuses to answer if the FBI were in the crowd that day, on multiple occasions. If they weren't in the crowd, why wouldn't he answer the question?
Not only that, but January 6th was two years ago. The American people deserve to know the full truth of what happened that day and that includes how the government was involved. The FBI knew exactly what was going to happen that day as they were surveilling the internet and were watching message boards. We deserve to know the truth. The January 6th committee was a sham. They didn't fully investigate what happened. Their goal was to push the narrative that was it was mostly violent people attacking the capital. That's why they never released the videos we are seeing now. Why did the police escort the violent protesters through the halls? Why did the police move barriers and unlock doors for these violent protesters to enter?
Oh ok that’s your evidence I’d say it sounds more like your opinion, but go ahead keep telling yourself it was only tourist and FBI agents and off course they weren’t instigated by the man imploring the mob to march and fight like hell!
Delusional thinking. “The 1/6 Committee was a ‘sham’.” What part of the investigation was left out or what actions of that date were not investigated and should have been?
The repub house leadership refused to appoint serious investigative committee members and instead chose to seat bomb throwers, obstructionists and cult members who would have hindered and made a circus of the attack on the Capitol. Nancy saw straight through it and rejected the slate of members and Kevie took his ball and went home. So Nancy appointed two repubs who put our democratic republic over party in Adam and Liz. But sure, blame the dems.
Three times is the charm, eh? Rapture going to finally arrive?
It's pretty sad how lackadaisically people are treating them and this moment.
It really is. And once again it is the GOP "leadership" that is failing us.
That Mike Lee fucker is pushing the bullshit "FBI inside job" shit related to January 6th. Fucking unreal.
How many FBI agents were dressed up as MAGA? How many FBI agents were provoking the crowd? Fucking unreal that you can't admit your own government had something to do with January 6th.
You have zero proof of it go ahead post the info?
The FBI director refuses to answer if the FBI were in the crowd that day, on multiple occasions. If they weren't in the crowd, why wouldn't he answer the question?
Not only that, but January 6th was two years ago. The American people deserve to know the full truth of what happened that day and that includes how the government was involved. The FBI knew exactly what was going to happen that day as they were surveilling the internet and were watching message boards. We deserve to know the truth. The January 6th committee was a sham. They didn't fully investigate what happened. Their goal was to push the narrative that was it was mostly violent people attacking the capital. That's why they never released the videos we are seeing now. Why did the police escort the violent protesters through the halls? Why did the police move barriers and unlock doors for these violent protesters to enter?
Oh ok that’s your evidence I’d say it sounds more like your opinion, but go ahead keep telling yourself it was only tourist and FBI agents and off course they weren’t instigated by the man imploring the mob to march and fight like hell!
This board is full of opinions. The only ones you attack are the ones that don't align with your political party.
What part of the investigation was left out or what actions of that date were not investigated and should have been?
You didn't even read what I wrote because I clearly explained what was left out and what should be investigated. Your bias blinds you.
You’re making a claim that the FBI director won’t testify as to whether FBI agents were in the crowd, right? How do you know this? Are you privy to the behind closed doors, classified documents and testimony that may have been provided to the committee? Do you understand how investigative committees operate and what testimony is available to the public? Are you suggesting that somehow the 500 hours, or whatever number of hours of video that’s going to be released, will somehow change the events of that day, prove it was merely a “tourist visit,” an inside job or some other half baked whack job conspiracy theory and exonerate the likes of the Proud Boyz?
It's pretty sad how lackadaisically people are treating them and this moment.
It really is. And once again it is the GOP "leadership" that is failing us.
That Mike Lee fucker is pushing the bullshit "FBI inside job" shit related to January 6th. Fucking unreal.
How many FBI agents were dressed up as MAGA? How many FBI agents were provoking the crowd? Fucking unreal that you can't admit your own government had something to do with January 6th.
You have zero proof of it go ahead post the info?
The FBI director refuses to answer if the FBI were in the crowd that day, on multiple occasions. If they weren't in the crowd, why wouldn't he answer the question?
Not only that, but January 6th was two years ago. The American people deserve to know the full truth of what happened that day and that includes how the government was involved. The FBI knew exactly what was going to happen that day as they were surveilling the internet and were watching message boards. We deserve to know the truth. The January 6th committee was a sham. They didn't fully investigate what happened. Their goal was to push the narrative that was it was mostly violent people attacking the capital. That's why they never released the videos we are seeing now. Why did the police escort the violent protesters through the halls? Why did the police move barriers and unlock doors for these violent protesters to enter?
Say there were agents in the crowd and they were just acting as observers, since they are a domestic intelligence organization that makes perfect sense. If you are the director and answer yes, it doesn't matter what else you say the grandstanders will say, see that proves that the FBI were fomenting the revolution, when it could in fact not be the case, but since the gOP committees very rarely care about facts and care more about grandstanding they would just keep repeating it until people thought it was true.
I'm no Democrat, just your average apolitical independent. For the case of Jan 6 it is pretty clear that there were a group of disgruntled patriotards that were upset that their leader lost and decided to believe his lies that the election was stollen, after which he whipped them into a frenzy by giving them a speech full of lies about a stollen election and all of their favorite anti-woke talking points and tells them that he is going to walk with them to the capital. Trump proceeds to step into the shadows and safety of the White House and lets the chaos unfold.
You say we deserve to know the truth? What do you think the truth is? If the truth is that a mob got out of control after getting riled up by their cult leader, will you accept it, or will you want a different truth?
What part of the investigation was left out or what actions of that date were not investigated and should have been?
You didn't even read what I wrote because I clearly explained what was left out and what should be investigated. Your bias blinds you.
You’re making a claim that the FBI director won’t testify as to whether FBI agents were in the crowd, right? How do you know this? Are you privy to the behind closed doors, classified documents and testimony that may have been provided to the committee? Do you understand how investigative committees operate and what testimony is available to the public? Are you suggesting that somehow the 500 hours, or whatever number of hours of video that’s going to be released, will somehow change the events of that day, prove it was merely a “tourist visit,” an inside job or some other half baked whack job conspiracy theory and exonerate the likes of the Proud Boyz?
What part of the investigation was left out or what actions of that date were not investigated and should have been?
You didn't even read what I wrote because I clearly explained what was left out and what should be investigated. Your bias blinds you.
You’re making a claim that the FBI director won’t testify as to whether FBI agents were in the crowd, right? How do you know this? Are you privy to the behind closed doors, classified documents and testimony that may have been provided to the committee? Do you understand how investigative committees operate and what testimony is available to the public? Are you suggesting that somehow the 500 hours, or whatever number of hours of video that’s going to be released, will somehow change the events of that day, prove it was merely a “tourist visit,” an inside job or some other half baked whack job conspiracy theory and exonerate the likes of the Proud Boyz?
Ray Epps, Trump supporter targeted by Jan. 6 conspiracy theory, pleads guilty to Capitol riot charge
FILE - Insurrections loyal to President Donald Trump rally at the U.S. Capitol in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021. Ray Epps, an Arizona man who became the center of a conspiracy theory about Jan. 6, 2021, has been charged with a misdemeanor offense in connection with the U.S. Capitol riot, according to court papers filed Tuesday. Epps is charged with a single count of a disorderly or disruptive conduct on restricted grounds. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana, File)
WASHINGTON (AP) — Ray Epps, a onetime Donald Trump supporter who was the target of a right-wing conspiracy theory about the Jan. 6, 2021, attack that forced him into hiding, pleaded guilty on Wednesday to a misdemeanor charge for his role in the U.S. Capitol riot.
Epps, appearing remotely for a hearing in Washington’s federal courthouse, entered his plea on a charge of disorderly conduct on restricted grounds a day after the case was filed in the Justice Department’s massive Jan. 6 prosecution.
Epps’ attorney said after the hearing that it was a step toward putting his client’s “life back together.”
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“Defamatory lies have ruined his and his family’s life,” defense attorney Edward Ungvarsky said in an email.
After the riot, Epps became the focus of a conspiracy theory — echoed by right-wing news outlets — that he was a secret government agent who incited the Capitol attack.
Driven from his Arizona home, the former Marine and ex-member of the Oath Keepers extremist group filed a defamation lawsuit against Fox News Channel this year, saying the network was to blame for spreading the baseless claims that led to death threats and bullet casings in his yard.
Michael Teter, an attorney representing Epps in the defamation case, said Epps’ plea agreement is “powerful evidence of the absurdity of Fox News’ and Tucker Carlson’s lies that sought to turn Ray into a scapegoat for January 6.”
“Had Ray been charged earlier, Fox News would have called him a hero and political prisoner,” Teter said in an emailed statement. “Instead, Fox News spread falsehoods about Ray that have cost him his livelihood and safety.”
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The judge scheduled Epps’ sentencing for Dec. 20. The charge carries up to one year behind bars, but federal sentencing guidelines call for zero to six months, according to court papers.
Epps, who worked as a roofer after serving four years as infantry in the U.S. Marine Corps, has vehemently denied ever working for the FBI.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Gordon said during the hearing that “Epps was not ... a confidential source for the FBI or any other law enforcement agency.”
Epps has said he went to Washington to protest the 2020 election, which he falsely believed — based on stories he heard on Fox News — was stolen from the Republican president, who lost to Democrat Joe Biden.
In videos shared widely on social media and right-wing websites, Epps is seen the day before the riot saying, “Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol ... peacefully.” On Jan. 6, video shows him saying, “As soon as the president is done speaking, we go to the Capitol.” Epps has said he left Capitol grounds when he saw people scaling walls and never actually went inside the building.
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“Mr. Epps exhorted other supporters of President Trump to be peaceful on January 6 at the Capitol, and outside he repeatedly acted in support of officers to try to deescalate actions,” his attorney, Ungvarsky, said.
Epps’ lawyer noted that his client has been cooperating with the Capitol riot investigation since Jan. 8, 2021. Epps contacted the FBI to provide his information after returning home from Washington and hearing from a relative that his picture was on an FBI website. He and his then-attorney were interviewed by agents in March 2021. Epps was also interviewed by the U.S. House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack.
In the aftermath of the riot, the “search for a scapegoat” landed on Epps, who was subsequently featured in more than two dozen segments on then-host Tucker Carlson’s prime-time show, Epps said in his lawsuit.
A barrage of death threats would force Epps and his wife to sell their home in Mesa, Arizona, and live in a recreational vehicle in the Rocky Mountains, he said in an interview this year on CBS’ “60 Minutes.”
“I had to do the necessary things to keep my family safe,” said Epps, who described being “on the run.”
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Fox News and a lawyer for Carlson have not responded to messages seeking comment from The Associated Press.
Epps was once a member of the far-right Oath Keepers extremist group, serving as an Arizona chapter leader before parting ways with the anti-government group a few years before the Jan. 6 attack because the Oath Keepers were “too radical” for him, he said.
Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes and other members were convicted of seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack for what prosecutors said was a weekslong plot to stop the transfer of power from Trump to Biden. Rhodes was sentenced in May to 18 years in prison.
Altogether, more than 1,100 defendants have been charged with federal crimes in connection with the riot, and authorities continue to regularly bring new cases nearly three years later. Roughly 670 people have pleaded guilty, and of those 480 pleaded to misdemeanor charges, according to an Associated Press analysis of court records.
What part of the investigation was left out or what actions of that date were not investigated and should have been?
You didn't even read what I wrote because I clearly explained what was left out and what should be investigated. Your bias blinds you.
You’re making a claim that the FBI director won’t testify as to whether FBI agents were in the crowd, right? How do you know this? Are you privy to the behind closed doors, classified documents and testimony that may have been provided to the committee? Do you understand how investigative committees operate and what testimony is available to the public? Are you suggesting that somehow the 500 hours, or whatever number of hours of video that’s going to be released, will somehow change the events of that day, prove it was merely a “tourist visit,” an inside job or some other half baked whack job conspiracy theory and exonerate the likes of the Proud Boyz?
“If you're asking whether the violence at the Capitol on January 6 was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources and/or agents… the answer is an emphatic no," Director Wray says. Mark Green M.D. Donald Payne Jr.5 days ago
It's a "fact" that he said this ^^^^
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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The GOP base couldn't be any more gullible.
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An unwillingness to think critically by a massive cohort of the USA is a much more likely reason Donald Trump has a legitimate chance of becoming President, alongside the fact that incompetence seems to be celebrated by so many, so long as it disagrees with a mainstream narrative. Add in cult mentality, a widespread sense of being ignored (highly exploitable), manufacturing of common enemies to appeal to worst instincts, and yeah, I'd say you're right, but you've got your reasons wrong.
In hindsight, I don't think Hilary Clinton got enough credit for saying the quiet part out loud. Basic decency is rarely on display anymore, and certainly not in a debate setting.
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Not only that, but January 6th was two years ago. The American people deserve to know the full truth of what happened that day and that includes how the government was involved. The FBI knew exactly what was going to happen that day as they were surveilling the internet and were watching message boards. We deserve to know the truth. The January 6th committee was a sham. They didn't fully investigate what happened. Their goal was to push the narrative that was it was mostly violent people attacking the capital. That's why they never released the videos we are seeing now. Why did the police escort the violent protesters through the halls? Why did the police move barriers and unlock doors for these violent protesters to enter?
Why would the FBI help Trump, if the FBI is out to get Trump?
The repub house leadership refused to appoint serious investigative committee members and instead chose to seat bomb throwers, obstructionists and cult members who would have hindered and made a circus of the attack on the Capitol. Nancy saw straight through it and rejected the slate of members and Kevie took his ball and went home. So Nancy appointed two repubs who put our democratic republic over party in Adam and Liz. But sure, blame the dems.
Three times is the charm, eh? Rapture going to finally arrive?
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Tell me about 9/11.
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I'm no Democrat, just your average apolitical independent. For the case of Jan 6 it is pretty clear that there were a group of disgruntled patriotards that were upset that their leader lost and decided to believe his lies that the election was stollen, after which he whipped them into a frenzy by giving them a speech full of lies about a stollen election and all of their favorite anti-woke talking points and tells them that he is going to walk with them to the capital. Trump proceeds to step into the shadows and safety of the White House and lets the chaos unfold.
You say we deserve to know the truth? What do you think the truth is? If the truth is that a mob got out of control after getting riled up by their cult leader, will you accept it, or will you want a different truth?
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
How are you so uninformed about this? JB, would YOU like to know who Ray Epps is?
My heart goes out to any rational people who sit near you on Thanksgiving.
Educate yourself:
https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-capitol-riot-misdemeanor-charge-conspiracy-theory-157ce51c7ded7f30f21cfab834dcce74
Ray Epps, Trump supporter targeted by Jan. 6 conspiracy theory, pleads guilty to Capitol riot charge
WASHINGTON (AP) — Ray Epps, a onetime Donald Trump supporter who was the target of a right-wing conspiracy theory about the Jan. 6, 2021, attack that forced him into hiding, pleaded guilty on Wednesday to a misdemeanor charge for his role in the U.S. Capitol riot.
Epps, appearing remotely for a hearing in Washington’s federal courthouse, entered his plea on a charge of disorderly conduct on restricted grounds a day after the case was filed in the Justice Department’s massive Jan. 6 prosecution.
Epps’ attorney said after the hearing that it was a step toward putting his client’s “life back together.”
ADVERTISEMENT
“Defamatory lies have ruined his and his family’s life,” defense attorney Edward Ungvarsky said in an email.
After the riot, Epps became the focus of a conspiracy theory — echoed by right-wing news outlets — that he was a secret government agent who incited the Capitol attack.
Driven from his Arizona home, the former Marine and ex-member of the Oath Keepers extremist group filed a defamation lawsuit against Fox News Channel this year, saying the network was to blame for spreading the baseless claims that led to death threats and bullet casings in his yard.
Michael Teter, an attorney representing Epps in the defamation case, said Epps’ plea agreement is “powerful evidence of the absurdity of Fox News’ and Tucker Carlson’s lies that sought to turn Ray into a scapegoat for January 6.”
“Had Ray been charged earlier, Fox News would have called him a hero and political prisoner,” Teter said in an emailed statement. “Instead, Fox News spread falsehoods about Ray that have cost him his livelihood and safety.”
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The judge scheduled Epps’ sentencing for Dec. 20. The charge carries up to one year behind bars, but federal sentencing guidelines call for zero to six months, according to court papers.
Epps, who worked as a roofer after serving four years as infantry in the U.S. Marine Corps, has vehemently denied ever working for the FBI.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Gordon said during the hearing that “Epps was not ... a confidential source for the FBI or any other law enforcement agency.”
Epps has said he went to Washington to protest the 2020 election, which he falsely believed — based on stories he heard on Fox News — was stolen from the Republican president, who lost to Democrat Joe Biden.
In videos shared widely on social media and right-wing websites, Epps is seen the day before the riot saying, “Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol ... peacefully.” On Jan. 6, video shows him saying, “As soon as the president is done speaking, we go to the Capitol.” Epps has said he left Capitol grounds when he saw people scaling walls and never actually went inside the building.
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“Mr. Epps exhorted other supporters of President Trump to be peaceful on January 6 at the Capitol, and outside he repeatedly acted in support of officers to try to deescalate actions,” his attorney, Ungvarsky, said.
Epps’ lawyer noted that his client has been cooperating with the Capitol riot investigation since Jan. 8, 2021. Epps contacted the FBI to provide his information after returning home from Washington and hearing from a relative that his picture was on an FBI website. He and his then-attorney were interviewed by agents in March 2021. Epps was also interviewed by the U.S. House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack.
In the aftermath of the riot, the “search for a scapegoat” landed on Epps, who was subsequently featured in more than two dozen segments on then-host Tucker Carlson’s prime-time show, Epps said in his lawsuit.
A barrage of death threats would force Epps and his wife to sell their home in Mesa, Arizona, and live in a recreational vehicle in the Rocky Mountains, he said in an interview this year on CBS’ “60 Minutes.”
“I had to do the necessary things to keep my family safe,” said Epps, who described being “on the run.”
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Fox News and a lawyer for Carlson have not responded to messages seeking comment from The Associated Press.
Epps was once a member of the far-right Oath Keepers extremist group, serving as an Arizona chapter leader before parting ways with the anti-government group a few years before the Jan. 6 attack because the Oath Keepers were “too radical” for him, he said.
Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes and other members were convicted of seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack for what prosecutors said was a weekslong plot to stop the transfer of power from Trump to Biden. Rhodes was sentenced in May to 18 years in prison.
Altogether, more than 1,100 defendants have been charged with federal crimes in connection with the riot, and authorities continue to regularly bring new cases nearly three years later. Roughly 670 people have pleaded guilty, and of those 480 pleaded to misdemeanor charges, according to an Associated Press analysis of court records.
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