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208 Democrats sided with 8 Republicans to vote McCarthy out. 210 Republicans voted against kicking McCarthy out.
100% of Democrats voted to kick McCarthy out. 4% of Republicans voted to kick him out.
I don't know how else to explain this simple math yet everyone here is blaming the Republican party when it was ALL of the Democrat votes that made this happen. This is clearly the fault of the Democrats who sided with someone like Matt Gaetz, whom you all mock, yet your party sided with him. If Democrats didn't want chaos, they wouldn't have sided with 8 Republicans. The math or common sense couldn't be any clearer.
This message board is nothing but an echo chamber for the left.
LOL...you really don't understand politics
You really don't understand math.
Nor do you. The repubs hold the majority in the house and could elect a speaker on their own but their speaker candidates are such dumpster fires and beholden to POOTWH that even they can’t stomach a vote for them. Here’s an idea, maybe those 22 repubs who voted against Gym should switch parties and let the dems elect Hakeem? Just a thought
The dems knew what they were doing when they sided with the 8 Republicans. They knew the search for a new speaker would be a dumpster fire and voted McCarthy out anyways.
Do you really think you can sell this lame argument here? The GOP is an absolute fucked up mess. Deal with it.
Did the Democrats vote to oust the speaker knowing full well that it's going to be difficult to find a new one? How many Democrats voted for this compared to Republicans? It is simple math.
It is maga who nominated far right extremist wackos who do not appeal to most people outside the Trump cult base. This, in turn, is why you did not get your red wave last year, thus giving you the slimmest of majorities this year.
It is maga that took 15 tries to elect a speaker in January...ensuring him to be the weakest speaker in history as he had to concede everything to get the job, including a rule where only ONE member of congress could call a vote to vacate his speakership.
Shockingly the same maga Republican who demanded that rule is the one who invoked it, which has lead us to the current chaos you are blaming on.....the Democrats somehow. lol.
Why in the fucking world do you think Democrats would even consider voting for a maga Republican for speaker? In what universe would that make sense? Beyond foolish thinking here.
Maga created this mess. It is not the Democrats responsibility to bail them out of political jail. They own it. It is fun watching magas twist and turn themselves into pretzels with these excuses though.
Democrats sided with Matt Gaetz to oust the speaker. That's a fact.
Uh huh....okay, you seem to be having a hard time with this. Let's try and keep it simple for you. Do you dispute anything I said?
McCarthy broke his promises to the GOP about becoming speaker. Some decided to hold him accountable for it. We have a branch of government that's completely shut down now which hurts all of us.
McCarthy broke his promise to Biden on the deal they cut. Why would the D's support him? McCarthy also blamed the D's for the clean bill that passed the House. You expect the GOP to hold McCarthy accountable, but not the D's? This can't be your argument.
Would you rather we have no speaker for who knows how long, if ever, or keep McCarthy?
After three failed votes and the clear indication that Republicans can't elect one of their own, I would think someone so tuned into the important of the Speakership would be advocating for a handful of Republicans to work with Ds to come up with a consensus candidate. They only need seven votes from the GOP to get the House moving again. You support that, right?
But maybe if Jordan yells some more and your team's reps get some more death threats, that might help. Because Jordan isn't a psychopath or anything.
Jordan, a conservative firebrand who is allied with former president Donald Trump, was chosen by Republicans last week to lead the House in the wake of Rep. Kevin McCarthy’s ouster. But with 25 Republicans voting against him on the third ballot, three more than on the previous ballot, Jordan and his allies have their work cut out for them.
If only the Democrats would have voted for Jim Jordan, we would not be in this mess.
Correct. If they cared about governing and didn't want chaos, they would have voted for the insurrectionist Gym Jordan.
They should charge him with insurrection and put him in jail for life.
Finally, something we agree on (well, this and the fact that Biden should have gone to East Palestine for a cool photo op - that's 2 agreements in one afternoon! #progress)
Gym Jordan should also accept responsibility for the sex abuse he covered up, but I'm not holding my breath on that one either.
If only the Democrats would have voted for Jim Jordan, we would not be in this mess.
Correct. If they cared about governing and didn't want chaos, they would have voted for the insurrectionist Gym Jordan.
They should charge him with insurrection and put him in jail for life.
Finally, something we agree on (well, this and the fact that Biden should have gone to East Palestine for a cool photo op - that's 2 agreements in one afternoon! #progress)
Gym Jordan should also accept responsibility for the sex abuse he covered up, but I'm not holding my breath on that one either.
Jordan was only 25 death threats short of success.
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the government is going to shut down because the gop keeps trying to get maga speakers and nobody wants to vote for them, lol.
what is the definition of insanity again?
It’s a cult. Perhaps the cult of cults. The greatest, bestest cult. POOTWH knows cults, let me tell you, and nobody does cults better than him. He talks to cults all the time. They give him money. He doesn’t even have to ask, they just do it. I know, right? It’s an amazing thing. It’s beautiful, isn’t it?It’s like passing that tray, on Sunday, right? Except they just give. And they believe, amazing, right? It’s beautiful. The greatest cult there ever was! It’ll be on his tombstone, in Bedminister, on the 13th hole. “Here lies the greatest cultist of all.”
This is really delicious! Like super tasty! Like a hamburder. With catsup. It’s what repubs taste when they eat their own. It’s amazing!
So amazing that it’s like Nancy and Hakeem went to cooking school on a Brandon Crime Wave student loan that was forgiven after they read Heather Has Two Cooks and My Two Dads, moved to Ukraine, only to have to come back across the southern border as different sexes, take a bus to NYC, where they got free scooters and Obama phones, medical care and housing, and then went back to public school without their vaccinations so they could relearn English. What a country!
OpinionHouse Republicans go down in flames — again
The Ohio Republican opened his 8 a.m. news conference at the Capitol on Friday with a long story about touring the Ohio home of Orville and Wilbur, seeing their bicycle shop and their “gadgets and gizmos.” He marveled at their first flight, in Kitty Hawk, N.C., noting that it “barely” got off the ground. He then reminded reporters that, over the next 66 years, “We went from two guys flying 100 feet to putting a man on the moon.”
What was Jordan trying to say with this anecdote? That his campaign wasn’t getting off the ground? That it would take him 66 years to win the speakership?
If there was any aviation metaphor to be drawn from the news conference, it was that his bombing run would continue — he said he saw nothing wrong with “multiple rounds of votes” — until he had blown up whatever vestiges of functionality were left in the House Republican caucus. Mercifully, his fellow Republicans shot Jordan down about six hours later.
After another failed speaker vote on the floor Friday morning — this time, Jordan lost 25 Republicans, three more than in the previous vote — the GOP caucus went to a closed-door conference room and pushed him to drop out. In a secret ballot, only 86 Republicans said he should stay in the speaker race, while 112 wanted him out. Nineteen didn’t even bother to attend; some had flown home for the weekend rather than participate in additional pointless speaker votes on the floor.
Now, the leaderless and rudderless Republicans will start all over again. The earliest they could vote on the next nominee, their third, would be Tuesday, a full three weeks since they ousted Kevin McCarthy and shut down the House of Representatives. And it’ll be a neat trick to get it done by Tuesday, with eight announced candidates (so far) in the running.
“Back to the drawing board,” a grim McCarthy said after Friday afternoon’s conference meeting. McCarthy (Calif.) blamed the seemingly endless chaos on the Republicans who ousted him, saying “the amount of damage they have done to this party and to this country is insurmountable.”
Added the former speaker: “We are in a very bad position as a party.”
How bad? Well, on the social media platform X on Thursday night, Rep. Greg Murphy (R-N.C.) got into a spat with Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) over her vote for McCarthy’s ouster. He then blocked her. Responded the congresswoman: “This is exactly what’s wrong with this place — too many men here with no balls.”
But it wasn’t just Matt Gaetz’s “crazy eight,” as McCarthy calls them. Jordan, a far-right pugilist, made the divisions much deeper, first by kneecapping Republicans’ first nominee to succeed McCarthy, Steve Scalise (La.), and then by launching an intimidation campaign against opponents that led to death threats against fellow Republicans and their families.
At Thursday’s caucus meeting, Gaetz (Fla.) and Rep. Mike Bost (Ill.) reportedly came close to blows. The temporary speaker, Patrick McHenry (N.C.) reportedly threatened to resign. One Jordan opponent, Rep. Ken Buck (Colo.), reported that he was being evictedfrom his office in Windsor, Colo., because the landlord was mad at his vote against Jordan.
Leaving an unproductive session with holdouts Thursday, Jordan held a handwritten note with a question he had apparently asked his detractors. Captured by Reuters photographer Leah Mills, it said: “What is the real reason?” (Answer: You’re a legislative terrorist.)
Incredibly, Rep. Scott Perry (Pa.), a Jordan ally, belittled the death threats. “All of us in Congress receive death threats,” he told reporters at Jordan’s Friday morning news conference. “That’s nothing new. That is another red herring.”
Perry, when he wasn’t excusing death threats against colleagues, was also preparing a resolution “removing the Honorable Patrick McHenry … from the position of elected speaker pro tempore.” Rep. Greg Steube (R-Fla.) was holding a copy of the resolution (which would inject still more chaos into the House, if that is even possible), on the House floor Friday, as captured by Associated Press photographer Alex Brandon.
McCarthy gave the nominating speech for Jordan on Friday, announcing that the always intransigent Jordan (who has enacted no bills in Congress) “is an effective legislator” and is good at “reaching compromise.”
Democrats guffawed. Republicans called for order.
After the failed vote, the “crazy eight” released a letter in which they offered colleagues that, if they elected Jordan as speaker, “We are prepared to accept censure, suspension, or removal from the conference” for leading the coup against McCarthy. (One of the signatories, Buck, promptly disavowed the letter bearing his name, reducing the band to the less-alliterative “crazy seven.”)
“If what these holdouts need is a pound of our flesh, we’re willing to give it to them,” Gaetz said.
But nobody wanted his flesh.
“I will not vote for Jim Jordan,” Rep. Carlos Gimenez (R-Fla.) told reporters on the House steps. “It used to be that I was voting for McCarthy. Now, I’m not voting for Jim Jordan.”
And Jordan supporters were throwing in the towel. “There’s no more runway,” said Pat Fallon (Tex.). Troy Nehls (Tex.) said he would vote for former president Donald Trump on the next speaker ballot.
Republicans went to the Capitol basement for another gripe session. Once again, cartloads of pizza went in. An hour later, Jordan had been dethroned.
They won’t hold the next candidate forum until Monday — what’s the rush? — because “I think we need to give people a little bit of time to mourn,” Rep. Dusty Johnson (R-S.D.) told us in the hallway.
Gaetz left the meeting ready to cause more trouble. “The most popular Republican in the United States Congress was just knifed by a secret ballot, in a private meeting, in the basement of the Capitol,” he fumed.
For the third time in as many weeks, a Republican leader had gone down in flames.
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But maybe if Jordan yells some more and your team's reps get some more death threats, that might help. Because Jordan isn't a psychopath or anything.
F'n dems.
Jordan, a conservative firebrand who is allied with former president Donald Trump, was chosen by Republicans last week to lead the House in the wake of Rep. Kevin McCarthy’s ouster. But with 25 Republicans voting against him on the third ballot, three more than on the previous ballot, Jordan and his allies have their work cut out for them.
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House Republicans vote to drop Jim Jordan as speaker nominee
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F'n dems.
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Correct. If they cared about governing and didn't want chaos, they would have voted for the insurrectionist Gym Jordan.
Gym Jordan should also accept responsibility for the sex abuse he covered up, but I'm not holding my breath on that one either.
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oh yeah,. jordan is an insurrectionist that has never passed a single bill in 16 years and he has no business near that gavel.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
what is the definition of insanity again?
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So amazing that it’s like Nancy and Hakeem went to cooking school on a Brandon Crime Wave student loan that was forgiven after they read Heather Has Two Cooks and My Two Dads, moved to Ukraine, only to have to come back across the southern border as different sexes, take a bus to NYC, where they got free scooters and Obama phones, medical care and housing, and then went back to public school without their vaccinations so they could relearn English. What a country!
Opinion House Republicans go down in flames — again
On what would turn out to be his last day as House Republicans’ speaker nominee, Jim Jordan was losing altitude. What to do about it? Why, call in the Wright Brothers, of course.
The Ohio Republican opened his 8 a.m. news conference at the Capitol on Friday with a long story about touring the Ohio home of Orville and Wilbur, seeing their bicycle shop and their “gadgets and gizmos.” He marveled at their first flight, in Kitty Hawk, N.C., noting that it “barely” got off the ground. He then reminded reporters that, over the next 66 years, “We went from two guys flying 100 feet to putting a man on the moon.”
What was Jordan trying to say with this anecdote? That his campaign wasn’t getting off the ground? That it would take him 66 years to win the speakership?
If there was any aviation metaphor to be drawn from the news conference, it was that his bombing run would continue — he said he saw nothing wrong with “multiple rounds of votes” — until he had blown up whatever vestiges of functionality were left in the House Republican caucus. Mercifully, his fellow Republicans shot Jordan down about six hours later.
After another failed speaker vote on the floor Friday morning — this time, Jordan lost 25 Republicans, three more than in the previous vote — the GOP caucus went to a closed-door conference room and pushed him to drop out. In a secret ballot, only 86 Republicans said he should stay in the speaker race, while 112 wanted him out. Nineteen didn’t even bother to attend; some had flown home for the weekend rather than participate in additional pointless speaker votes on the floor.
Now, the leaderless and rudderless Republicans will start all over again. The earliest they could vote on the next nominee, their third, would be Tuesday, a full three weeks since they ousted Kevin McCarthy and shut down the House of Representatives. And it’ll be a neat trick to get it done by Tuesday, with eight announced candidates (so far) in the running.
“Back to the drawing board,” a grim McCarthy said after Friday afternoon’s conference meeting. McCarthy (Calif.) blamed the seemingly endless chaos on the Republicans who ousted him, saying “the amount of damage they have done to this party and to this country is insurmountable.”
Added the former speaker: “We are in a very bad position as a party.”
How bad? Well, on the social media platform X on Thursday night, Rep. Greg Murphy (R-N.C.) got into a spat with Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) over her vote for McCarthy’s ouster. He then blocked her. Responded the congresswoman: “This is exactly what’s wrong with this place — too many men here with no balls.”
But it wasn’t just Matt Gaetz’s “crazy eight,” as McCarthy calls them. Jordan, a far-right pugilist, made the divisions much deeper, first by kneecapping Republicans’ first nominee to succeed McCarthy, Steve Scalise (La.), and then by launching an intimidation campaign against opponents that led to death threats against fellow Republicans and their families.
At Thursday’s caucus meeting, Gaetz (Fla.) and Rep. Mike Bost (Ill.) reportedly came close to blows. The temporary speaker, Patrick McHenry (N.C.) reportedly threatened to resign. One Jordan opponent, Rep. Ken Buck (Colo.), reported that he was being evictedfrom his office in Windsor, Colo., because the landlord was mad at his vote against Jordan.
Leaving an unproductive session with holdouts Thursday, Jordan held a handwritten note with a question he had apparently asked his detractors. Captured by Reuters photographer Leah Mills, it said: “What is the real reason?” (Answer: You’re a legislative terrorist.)
Incredibly, Rep. Scott Perry (Pa.), a Jordan ally, belittled the death threats. “All of us in Congress receive death threats,” he told reporters at Jordan’s Friday morning news conference. “That’s nothing new. That is another red herring.”
Perry, when he wasn’t excusing death threats against colleagues, was also preparing a resolution “removing the Honorable Patrick McHenry … from the position of elected speaker pro tempore.” Rep. Greg Steube (R-Fla.) was holding a copy of the resolution (which would inject still more chaos into the House, if that is even possible), on the House floor Friday, as captured by Associated Press photographer Alex Brandon.
McCarthy gave the nominating speech for Jordan on Friday, announcing that the always intransigent Jordan (who has enacted no bills in Congress) “is an effective legislator” and is good at “reaching compromise.”
Democrats guffawed. Republicans called for order.
After the failed vote, the “crazy eight” released a letter in which they offered colleagues that, if they elected Jordan as speaker, “We are prepared to accept censure, suspension, or removal from the conference” for leading the coup against McCarthy. (One of the signatories, Buck, promptly disavowed the letter bearing his name, reducing the band to the less-alliterative “crazy seven.”)
“If what these holdouts need is a pound of our flesh, we’re willing to give it to them,” Gaetz said.
But nobody wanted his flesh.
“I will not vote for Jim Jordan,” Rep. Carlos Gimenez (R-Fla.) told reporters on the House steps. “It used to be that I was voting for McCarthy. Now, I’m not voting for Jim Jordan.”
And Jordan supporters were throwing in the towel. “There’s no more runway,” said Pat Fallon (Tex.). Troy Nehls (Tex.) said he would vote for former president Donald Trump on the next speaker ballot.
Republicans went to the Capitol basement for another gripe session. Once again, cartloads of pizza went in. An hour later, Jordan had been dethroned.
They won’t hold the next candidate forum until Monday — what’s the rush? — because “I think we need to give people a little bit of time to mourn,” Rep. Dusty Johnson (R-S.D.) told us in the hallway.
Gaetz left the meeting ready to cause more trouble. “The most popular Republican in the United States Congress was just knifed by a secret ballot, in a private meeting, in the basement of the Capitol,” he fumed.
For the third time in as many weeks, a Republican leader had gone down in flames.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/20/jim-jordan-goes-down-house-speaker-gop/
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