Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
I'm not for sure yet. I'm saying it's a worthwhile idea to explore. The questions I ask myself are:
1. Is there another person likely to do THIS in the future, therefore we have to send a clear message (like the rioters)? The answer is no, in my opinion on that one. 2. Is Trump likely to serve a day in prison? No 3. Is this trial likely to be completed before the election of 2020? No. 4. Will Trump drop out because of this? No. I think it's the reason he is in, so he can use it as a weapon. I think the victim angle is his best weapon.
Now I'm not talking about J6 or GA at this point, I am only speaking of this federal indictment.
Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
I'm not for sure yet. I'm saying it's a worthwhile idea to explore. The questions I ask myself are:
1. Is there another person likely to do THIS in the future, therefore we have to send a clear message (like the rioters)? The answer is no, in my opinion on that one. 2. Is Trump likely to serve a day in prison? No 3. Is this trial likely to be completed before the election of 2020? No. 4. Will Trump drop out because of this? No. I think it's the reason he is in, so he can use it as a weapon. I think the victim angle is his best weapon.
Now I'm not talking about J6 or GA at this point, I am only speaking of this federal indictment.
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Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
I'm not for sure yet. I'm saying it's a worthwhile idea to explore. The questions I ask myself are:
1. Is there another person likely to do THIS in the future, therefore we have to send a clear message (like the rioters)? The answer is no, in my opinion on that one. 2. Is Trump likely to serve a day in prison? No 3. Is this trial likely to be completed before the election of 2020? No. 4. Will Trump drop out because of this? No. I think it's the reason he is in, so he can use it as a weapon. I think the victim angle is his best weapon.
Now I'm not talking about J6 or GA at this point, I am only speaking of this federal indictment.
Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
I'm not for sure yet. I'm saying it's a worthwhile idea to explore. The questions I ask myself are:
1. Is there another person likely to do THIS in the future, therefore we have to send a clear message (like the rioters)? The answer is no, in my opinion on that one. 2. Is Trump likely to serve a day in prison? No 3. Is this trial likely to be completed before the election of 2020? No. 4. Will Trump drop out because of this? No. I think it's the reason he is in, so he can use it as a weapon. I think the victim angle is his best weapon.
Now I'm not talking about J6 or GA at this point, I am only speaking of this federal indictment.
I don't disagree with your points.
RE# 3, I think Smith has stated he's pushing for a quick trial. trump will try to delay though, and will absolutely play the victim card.
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absolutely no fucking pardon for trump. we did not learn from pardoning nixon and things are way more divided today than they were during ford's presidency.
the man is the most criminal politician in american history and if convicted must be made an example of. his criminality must not stand. ever.
pardoning trump would be an endorsement of his behavior.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
absolutely no fucking pardon for trump. we did not learn from pardoning nixon and things are way more divided today than they were during ford's presidency.
the man is the most criminal politician in american history and if convicted must be made an example of. his criminality must not stand. ever.
pardoning trump would be an endorsement of his behavior.
I'm with you in a lot of ways, but the op-ed isn't completely baseless. I have issues w/ some of what Thiessen said, like calling the trump / Russia connection a conspiracy, but it does raise some very good points.
It seems like the indictment over the documents is a slam dunk, but I'm still skeptical they'll get 12 people in South Florida who will convict him and if he walks, it will only bolster his 2024 bid.
That POS needs to serve the minimum sentence handed down after being convicted in a fair trial or pardoned by a repub POTUS, whichever is longest. No mercy for that scum. None. Zero. Zilch. Fuck him and his base.
Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
So once again the burden falls on dems to save the republic, take responsibility and be the big boys in the room? Are you kidding me? Thiessan can go fuck himself. His comparison to Clinton is BS and off base. Him, POOTWH and the repub voters that voted for him in 2016 and 2020, and continue to support him, plus the mega donors and the faux right media OWN THIS POS. Not dems, not Brandon and not the leftist deep state media. Good fucking lord.
Do repubs ever claim responsibility for their colossal fuck ups? Are they ever held accountable for them? No, rather, they claim victim hood and abuse. Marc can go fuck himself.
Good fucking lord. “Brandon can show himself to be an ‘elder statesman’ and help heal the nation.” No Marc, it starts with you and your ilk and the faux outrage machine turning your backs and repudiating POOTWH and all it stands for first. Let’s start there. And even then I wouldn’t pardon that piece of shit. You broke it, you own it.
Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
So once again the burden falls on dems to save the republic, take responsibility and be the big boys in the room? Are you kidding me? Thiessan can go fuck himself. His comparison to Clinton is BS and off base. Him, POOTWH and the repub voters that voted for him in 2016 and 2020, and continue to support him, plus the mega donors and the faux right media OWN THIS POS. Not dems, not Brandon and not the leftist deep state media. Good fucking lord.
Do repubs ever claim responsibility for their colossal fuck ups? Are they ever held accountable for them? No, rather, they claim victim hood and abuse. Marc can go fuck himself.
Good fucking lord. “Brandon can show himself to be an ‘elder statesman’ and help heal the nation.” No Marc, it starts with you and your ilk and the faux outrage machine turning your backs and repudiating POOTWH and all it stands for first. Let’s start there. And even then I wouldn’t pardon that piece of shit. You broke it, you own it.
sometimes it's tough being the adults. But I'm more interested in the country than my party.
What we've learned is that there is no actual leadership in the GOP. They let the rabble rule. That's not changing until all of these radicalized boomers die off. I'm more interested in the center, center right.
Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
So once again the burden falls on dems to save the republic, take responsibility and be the big boys in the room? Are you kidding me? Thiessan can go fuck himself. His comparison to Clinton is BS and off base. Him, POOTWH and the repub voters that voted for him in 2016 and 2020, and continue to support him, plus the mega donors and the faux right media OWN THIS POS. Not dems, not Brandon and not the leftist deep state media. Good fucking lord.
Do repubs ever claim responsibility for their colossal fuck ups? Are they ever held accountable for them? No, rather, they claim victim hood and abuse. Marc can go fuck himself.
Good fucking lord. “Brandon can show himself to be an ‘elder statesman’ and help heal the nation.” No Marc, it starts with you and your ilk and the faux outrage machine turning your backs and repudiating POOTWH and all it stands for first. Let’s start there. And even then I wouldn’t pardon that piece of shit. You broke it, you own it.
Yeah screw the pardon I say let cards fall where they fall! Trumpolinni has shown time & time again that he doesn’t give a hoot about law & order when it pertains to him!
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Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
So once again the burden falls on dems to save the republic, take responsibility and be the big boys in the room? Are you kidding me? Thiessan can go fuck himself. His comparison to Clinton is BS and off base. Him, POOTWH and the repub voters that voted for him in 2016 and 2020, and continue to support him, plus the mega donors and the faux right media OWN THIS POS. Not dems, not Brandon and not the leftist deep state media. Good fucking lord.
Do repubs ever claim responsibility for their colossal fuck ups? Are they ever held accountable for them? No, rather, they claim victim hood and abuse. Marc can go fuck himself.
Good fucking lord. “Brandon can show himself to be an ‘elder statesman’ and help heal the nation.” No Marc, it starts with you and your ilk and the faux outrage machine turning your backs and repudiating POOTWH and all it stands for first. Let’s start there. And even then I wouldn’t pardon that piece of shit. You broke it, you own it.
sometimes it's tough being the adults. But I'm more interested in the country than my party.
What we've learned is that there is no actual leadership in the GOP. They let the rabble rule. That's not changing until all of these radicalized boomers die off. I'm more interested in the center, center right.
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Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
No Marc, it starts with you and your ilk and the faux outrage machine turning your backs and repudiating POOTWH and all it stands for first. Let’s start there.
I don't disagree with a lot of what you said, but what you're suggesting here just isn't happening.
Romney hit the nail on the head when he said in the wake of 1/6 that the best thing people can do moving forward is tell the truth, but that ain't happening either.
I loathe the idea of catering to this legion of fuckwads, but there's no good path forward here... we're fucked one way or the other.
Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
So once again the burden falls on dems to save the republic, take responsibility and be the big boys in the room? Are you kidding me? Thiessan can go fuck himself. His comparison to Clinton is BS and off base. Him, POOTWH and the repub voters that voted for him in 2016 and 2020, and continue to support him, plus the mega donors and the faux right media OWN THIS POS. Not dems, not Brandon and not the leftist deep state media. Good fucking lord.
Do repubs ever claim responsibility for their colossal fuck ups? Are they ever held accountable for them? No, rather, they claim victim hood and abuse. Marc can go fuck himself.
Good fucking lord. “Brandon can show himself to be an ‘elder statesman’ and help heal the nation.” No Marc, it starts with you and your ilk and the faux outrage machine turning your backs and repudiating POOTWH and all it stands for first. Let’s start there. And even then I wouldn’t pardon that piece of shit. You broke it, you own it.
sometimes it's tough being the adults. But I'm more interested in the country than my party.
What we've learned is that there is no actual leadership in the GOP. They let the rabble rule. That's not changing until all of these radicalized boomers die off. I'm more interested in the center, center right.
Speaking of the Washpo and crazy ideas, normally I think Thiessen is a total douche and a hack (spoiler, he is), but I actually think Biden should consider pardoning Trump.
So once again the burden falls on dems to save the republic, take responsibility and be the big boys in the room? Are you kidding me? Thiessan can go fuck himself. His comparison to Clinton is BS and off base. Him, POOTWH and the repub voters that voted for him in 2016 and 2020, and continue to support him, plus the mega donors and the faux right media OWN THIS POS. Not dems, not Brandon and not the leftist deep state media. Good fucking lord.
Do repubs ever claim responsibility for their colossal fuck ups? Are they ever held accountable for them? No, rather, they claim victim hood and abuse. Marc can go fuck himself.
Good fucking lord. “Brandon can show himself to be an ‘elder statesman’ and help heal the nation.” No Marc, it starts with you and your ilk and the faux outrage machine turning your backs and repudiating POOTWH and all it stands for first. Let’s start there. And even then I wouldn’t pardon that piece of shit. You broke it, you own it.
sometimes it's tough being the adults. But I'm more interested in the country than my party.
What we've learned is that there is no actual leadership in the GOP. They let the rabble rule. That's not changing until all of these radicalized boomers die off. I'm more interested in the center, center right.
Then it is up to the repub voters to turn their backs on and repudiate POOTWH. Until that happens, no pardon, no bail out, no reaching across the aisle. And this is what happens time and time again, dems play nice, do the right thing and then get it stuffed up our asses twice as hard the next time around.
Remind me again how many times Hillary has been indicted. This is what I’m talking about. When the other side can act and behave like adults, they can be treated as thus. Until they own the BS of 1/20/2017 through 1/20/2021, they can be responsible for where this country ends up.
So pardon ha! Then why go through the song & dance of investigation’s if all the comes of it is pardons for everyone! Then we are truly fucked if this country has to tip toe around the court yard bully.
So pardon ha! Then why go through the song & dance of investigation’s if all the comes of it is pardons for everyone! Then we are truly fucked if this country has to tip toe around the court yard bully.
Why investigate? Because the indictment was important. Thiessen is right, the special counsel could release a full report on situation laying out in detail what happened. Make a deal with teh senate to do a full oversight hearing, televise it, hammer him. It could do more than the trial.
Plus, you all assume that a guilty verdict is coming. We don't know that. You only need one juror to blow it up. That's not a high bar. A Grand Jury only needs a majority to indict.
So pardon ha! Then why go through the song & dance of investigation’s if all the comes of it is pardons for everyone! Then we are truly fucked if this country has to tip toe around the court yard bully.
Why investigate? Because the indictment was important. Thiessen is right, the special counsel could release a full report on situation laying out in detail what happened. Make a deal with teh senate to do a full oversight hearing, televise it, hammer him. It could do more than the trial.
Plus, you all assume that a guilty verdict is coming. We don't know that. You only need one juror to blow it up. That's not a high bar. A Grand Jury only needs a majority to indict.
So pardon ha! Then why go through the song & dance of investigation’s if all the comes of it is pardons for everyone! Then we are truly fucked if this country has to tip toe around the court yard bully.
Why investigate? Because the indictment was important. Thiessen is right, the special counsel could release a full report on situation laying out in detail what happened. Make a deal with teh senate to do a full oversight hearing, televise it, hammer him. It could do more than the trial.
Plus, you all assume that a guilty verdict is coming. We don't know that. You only need one juror to blow it up. That's not a high bar. A Grand Jury only needs a majority to indict.
But you are also assuming that the Senate would make the deal! And what kind of deal are you talking about for me it has to include that he can’t ever run for any political office again including 24
So pardon ha! Then why go through the song & dance of investigation’s if all the comes of it is pardons for everyone! Then we are truly fucked if this country has to tip toe around the court yard bully.
Why investigate? Because the indictment was important. Thiessen is right, the special counsel could release a full report on situation laying out in detail what happened. Make a deal with teh senate to do a full oversight hearing, televise it, hammer him. It could do more than the trial.
Plus, you all assume that a guilty verdict is coming. We don't know that. You only need one juror to blow it up. That's not a high bar. A Grand Jury only needs a majority to indict.
But you are also assuming that the Senate would make the deal! And what kind of deal are you talking about for me it has to include that he can’t ever run for any political office again including 24
I mean a deal to hold a mature, adult oversight hearing. Not some circus in the House.
I don't mean a deal that he never runs again. Like I said earlier, even floating that will feed the belief that the whole indictment was to get him out of the race.
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1. Is there another person likely to do THIS in the future, therefore we have to send a clear message (like the rioters)? The answer is no, in my opinion on that one.
2. Is Trump likely to serve a day in prison? No
3. Is this trial likely to be completed before the election of 2020? No.
4. Will Trump drop out because of this? No. I think it's the reason he is in, so he can use it as a weapon. I think the victim angle is his best weapon.
Now I'm not talking about J6 or GA at this point, I am only speaking of this federal indictment.
I have my doubts that he'll get convicted, but OTOH, had Nixon not been pardoned, maybe we wouldn't be here today.
What a cluster f this whole thing is.
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RE# 3, I think Smith has stated he's pushing for a quick trial. trump will try to delay though, and will absolutely play the victim card.
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the man is the most criminal politician in american history and if convicted must be made an example of. his criminality must not stand. ever.
pardoning trump would be an endorsement of his behavior.
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if you believe that mr art of the deal would do that, i have 4 bridges to sell you.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
It seems like the indictment over the documents is a slam dunk, but I'm still skeptical they'll get 12 people in South Florida who will convict him and if he walks, it will only bolster his 2024 bid.
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Do repubs ever claim responsibility for their colossal fuck ups? Are they ever held accountable for them? No, rather, they claim victim hood and abuse. Marc can go fuck himself.
Good fucking lord. “Brandon can show himself to be an ‘elder statesman’ and help heal the nation.” No Marc, it starts with you and your ilk and the faux outrage machine turning your backs and repudiating POOTWH and all it stands for first. Let’s start there. And even then I wouldn’t pardon that piece of shit. You broke it, you own it.
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I understand the logic behind it, but historically, things like this don't pan out well for our country.
If he gets indicted in the Fulton County case, and / or January 6, I'll be fully on board w/ a pardon for the documents.
of course that will never happen
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What we've learned is that there is no actual leadership in the GOP. They let the rabble rule. That's not changing until all of these radicalized boomers die off. I'm more interested in the center, center right.
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Romney hit the nail on the head when he said in the wake of 1/6 that the best thing people can do moving forward is tell the truth, but that ain't happening either.
I loathe the idea of catering to this legion of fuckwads, but there's no good path forward here... we're fucked one way or the other.
Remind me again how many times Hillary has been indicted. This is what I’m talking about. When the other side can act and behave like adults, they can be treated as thus. Until they own the BS of 1/20/2017 through 1/20/2021, they can be responsible for where this country ends up.
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Plus, you all assume that a guilty verdict is coming. We don't know that. You only need one juror to blow it up. That's not a high bar. A Grand Jury only needs a majority to indict.
I don't mean a deal that he never runs again. Like I said earlier, even floating that will feed the belief that the whole indictment was to get him out of the race.