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Go Beavers

Violent crime has been dropping in NYC through this year, but the media presents it as the opposite. 

HughFreakingDillon

Merkin Baller said:

I've lived in metro Boston for 16 years, and drive 40 minutes outside of the city for work. 

It's always fun when my co-workers from affluent suburbs who never go in town start telling me how dangerous the city is. 

yeah, that's everywhere. even my wife is scared to go downtown winnipeg at night. I mean, it's not the greatest, but shit, on any given night there's 13,000 Jets fans wandering around. And most people don't bother you if you aren't alone or aren't north of the downtown area in the really nasty part of town. 

Merkin Baller

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

I've lived in metro Boston for 16 years, and drive 40 minutes outside of the city for work. 

It's always fun when my co-workers from affluent suburbs who never go in town start telling me how dangerous the city is. 

yeah, that's everywhere. even my wife is scared to go downtown winnipeg at night. I mean, it's not the greatest, but shit, on any given night there's 13,000 Jets fans wandering around. And most people don't bother you if you aren't alone or aren't north of the downtown area in the really nasty part of town. 

Even my family who lives in the suburbs tries to tell me how dangerous the city is... it's about all I can do to not fall over laughing. 

Sure, there are plenty of neighborhoods I wouldn't want to hang out in at night, and a few I would avoid during the day too... but that's nothing new. 

The Juggler

Lerx, I should clarify that I was more talking about people's perceptions of crime and that Adams was hurting the dems by continuing to harp on it as much as he did. 

Judging by all the far right political ads, you'd think, even here in suburban PA, we live in Falluja circa 2005 or something....

josevolution

Yeah where I live Smithtown LI it’s a low crime area it’s a hub for Cops & Firefighters that live here they all vote Republican! 

HughFreakingDillon

Stephen Colbert: "The red wave was more like a pink splash-kinda like when you accidentally wash your klan robe with your maga hat". 

eddiec

I grew up in NY 17 that just turned Red. Never thought that would happen.

I haven't lived there in over twenty-five years, so I can't comment on exactly why things have changed so drastically. But my brother and I have been joking for years that returning home is like visiting the 'frontier'.

Lerxst1992

The Juggler said:

Lerx, I should clarify that I was more talking about people's perceptions of crime and that Adams was hurting the dems by continuing to harp on it as much as he did. 

Judging by all the far right political ads, you'd think, even here in suburban PA, we live in Falluja circa 2005 or something....

I agree with you. NY suburbs, in NYS only (the suburbs in CT and NJ voted pretty much the same as last time) is what will flip the House to the GOP. Which makes me realize…

What is unique about the NYC suburbs located specifically in the state, is the nonsense about bail reform. Republicans were pressed on this in debate after debate to provide absolute evidence and all they provided were anecdotal stories of someone’s uncle knew a kid who got out on bail. 

But this GOP attack didn’t work in NYC, where crime is usually higher.

Sounds like trumpism is alive and well, and works even in blue states. Maybe DeSantis can do it better, but it will be the mean old trump playbook, but with a prettier face . The GOP will be studying what happened on LI to take full control of DC in 2024. All you need to do is scare a bunch of white folks, and have just enough immigration in your region to scare people.

 But when the lawns need to be cut or dishes washed, they are all smiles and open arms.

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

I've lived in metro Boston for 16 years, and drive 40 minutes outside of the city for work. 

It's always fun when my co-workers from affluent suburbs who never go in town start telling me how dangerous the city is. 

yeah, that's everywhere. even my wife is scared to go downtown winnipeg at night. I mean, it's not the greatest, but shit, on any given night there's 13,000 Jets fans wandering around. And most people don't bother you if you aren't alone or aren't north of the downtown area in the really nasty part of town. 

Zach Wilson is also popular by you?

HughFreakingDillon

I don't know who that is

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't know who that is

lol NY Jets QB. I couldn’t resist. Now it’s yer turn to chat about scheifle and hellebuyck

Go Beavers

One of the reasons Florida is more republican is that they’ve made a deliberate effort in recent years to associate the dems with Socialism to scare Cuban immigrants. Pretty effin lame. Fear is such a strong emotion and republicans don’t hesitate to exploit this fact. 

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't know who that is

lol NY Jets QB. I couldn’t resist. Now it’s yer turn to chat about scheifle and hellebuyck

oh haha

Merkin Baller

Go Beavers said:

One of the reasons Florida is more republican is that they’ve made a deliberate effort in recent years to associate the dems with Socialism to scare Cuban immigrants. Pretty effin lame. Fear is such a strong emotion and republicans don’t hesitate to exploit this fact. 

They may have ratcheted up the rhetoric in Florida recently for that reason, but socialism has been used as a fear tactic by the right since at least the reconstruction era. 

tempo_n_groove

Lerxst1992 said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Lerxst1992 said:

tbergs said:

Here in MN, the whole state is now controlled by Dems. It's been about 10 years and it's only a 1 person majority, but they've got 2 years to get the shit done they wanted. I keep hearing that OH, FL and IA are gone for Dems, well, it seems MN is almost gone for Repubs based on the last 16 years.

Lucky you…NYC suburbs, especially Long Island, are among the areas of ground zero for the red wave. GOP is going to flip four seats in suburban nyc, probably control of the house will be thanks to this supposedly blue region. what the heck is different here than surburban areas in the rest of the non Floridian United States? Tempo? Jose? Anyone else from the ny suburbs? 

One of the top Dems was just on the news, spoke about how important this is, but sounded like he had no idea why LI and other NY suburbs were drastically different then the rest of the country. And it wasn’t even close. Usual blue seats in congress went double digits to the gop, wtf.

Maybe it's because Eric Adams echoes a lot of the same sentiments in those far right commercials about crime? 

It is ironic that if the dems lose the house by a few votes, it will likely be because they took NY for granted. 

Adams is a hack.  He talks a lot but doesn't do shit.

The reason for the "red wave" on long island is crime is up and bail reform was a joke.  People aren't happy with the influx of asylum/immigrants etc flooding the schools.  

When you have your catalytic converter stolen from your house in your driveway people tend to get upset.

The middle class is all of NY but the city.  The previous leaders voted in seem to forget that but the voters didn't.

Agreed. I think the difference there compared to elsewhere is you have a democrat mayor who also seems to voice those same concerns about crime, which did not help the democrats. Combine that with the redistricting and general lack of attention by the national dems and...voila. Glad I don't live there!

Need to push back on this,

Unfortunately stats don’t support this, as crime is up slightly, but still low historically

When misinformation is able to penetrate the left in NY, trump has plenty of ammo to enter the 2024 race. We are his blueprint.

one thing speaking as a long Islander, it is VERY SEGREGATED here, and it looks like there are a lot of closed loop communities in echo chambers that created a reality where crime is rampant. The further from the city you travel, the more folks talk about crime. Distance from cities is also an indicator of trumpism. The island has less crime than the city yet Dems won by huge margins there. 

Random internet info-

…

Is it safe to live in Long Island NY?

Living on Long Island is safe. The crime rate on Long Island is 59% lower than that in New York City and 80% lower than the national average. It's one of the safest neighborhoods in the city.

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Are you visiting or planning on moving to Long Island, NY? You may be concerned about crime in Long Island and whether it’s a safe place. Long Island isn’t just safe, it’s the safest place to live in the NYC area. Long Island’s Nassau County was even ranked the safest county in the United States in 2020 byU.S. News! That considers not just crime rates but also fatal accidents, community spending on emergency and health services, and distance to emergency services. Here’s a complete guide to the Long Island, NY crime rate and what you should know about the area.
….

Crime in New York City is out of control, as Republican gubernatorial candidate Lee Zeldin and other right-wing candidates often claim in television ads and press conferences ahead of the 2022 midterm elections. But the Big Apple isn’t exactly falling into chaos — and the NYPD’s own statistics tell that story.

While overall crime has increased year-over-year in New York City last year and so far this year, the NYPD’s historical CompStat figures show that the Five Boroughs are still far safer now than they were back in 2000 — when Republicans held both Gracie Mansion and the Governor’s Mansion. 

Last year, the NYPD reported a total of 102,741 major felonies (murder, rape, robbery, felony assault, burglary, grand larceny and auto theft). That’s up from the 95,593 felonies reported during the pandemic year of 2020, and the highest total since 2016, when the NYPD tallied 101,716 felonies. 

But turn the clock back to 2000, and the NYPD catalogued that year 184,852 major felonies. Despite terrorist attacks, recessions, a pandemic and other societal issues in the previous 21 years, crime in New York City was down 44.4% in 2021 from the 2000 totals.

In fact, 2000 was the high-water mark for every single major crime category but one over the past 21 years. 

You forget that they don't report all of the crime now because the FBI changed it.

The cops don't arrest people for certain crimes anymore.

Long Island is much safer than the city, hands down.  You still have shitty areas though that make up for that.

Opportunists are coming into the burbs and checking car doors for quick grabs, shame on you for not locking it but it still shouldn't happen.

Those 2000 numbers posted were when Gulliani was running things and cops arrested everybody.  NYC wasn't rampant with homeless and mental ill.  I also didn't see people pissing/shitting in the streets like I do now.  I have a great pic of a guy on the corner of 47th and Park doing this.

I've definitely noticed a difference here in the city and on Long Island in the last 10 years.

tempo_n_groove

Lerxst1992 said:

The Juggler said:

Lerx, I should clarify that I was more talking about people's perceptions of crime and that Adams was hurting the dems by continuing to harp on it as much as he did. 

Judging by all the far right political ads, you'd think, even here in suburban PA, we live in Falluja circa 2005 or something....

I agree with you. NY suburbs, in NYS only (the suburbs in CT and NJ voted pretty much the same as last time) is what will flip the House to the GOP. Which makes me realize…

What is unique about the NYC suburbs located specifically in the state, is the nonsense about bail reform. Republicans were pressed on this in debate after debate to provide absolute evidence and all they provided were anecdotal stories of someone’s uncle knew a kid who got out on bail. 

But this GOP attack didn’t work in NYC, where crime is usually higher.

Sounds like trumpism is alive and well, and works even in blue states. Maybe DeSantis can do it better, but it will be the mean old trump playbook, but with a prettier face . The GOP will be studying what happened on LI to take full control of DC in 2024. All you need to do is scare a bunch of white folks, and have just enough immigration in your region to scare people.

 But when the lawns need to be cut or dishes washed, they are all smiles and open arms.

As for bail reform, we have NEWS12 that lets us know of people whom do commit crime when out on bail.  

OnWis97

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

I've lived in metro Boston for 16 years, and drive 40 minutes outside of the city for work. 

It's always fun when my co-workers from affluent suburbs who never go in town start telling me how dangerous the city is. 

yeah, that's everywhere. even my wife is scared to go downtown winnipeg at night. I mean, it's not the greatest, but shit, on any given night there's 13,000 Jets fans wandering around. And most people don't bother you if you aren't alone or aren't north of the downtown area in the really nasty part of town. 

The funny thing about people being scarred of going to the city is that if they die on the trip, it's nearly a certainty that'll be in an automobile collision. But those are risks we accept.

HughFreakingDillon

Ted Cruz campaigned on a bus tour for 8 candidates. 

All 8 lost. 

The Juggler

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ted Cruz campaigned on a bus tour for 8 candidates. 

All 8 lost. 

And someone through a can of beer at him. Rough week
https://youtu.be/UP-gmChw2xE

Gern Blansten

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ted Cruz campaigned on a bus tour for 8 candidates. 

All 8 lost. 

And someone through a can of beer at him. Rough week
https://youtu.be/UP-gmChw2xE

I give him credit for continuing to make public appearances. It sure seems like everyone hates his fucking guts.