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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    also, today the US house voted to decriminalize marijuana. it will probably die in the senate, but i will give you one guess as to the party that voted against it.
    Biden does not support legalization.



    Biden’s blunt opposition to marijuana legalization



    True, but he does support decriminalization so your counter point is moo.
    Legalization would be decriminalization. My point is that you are all putting blame on the GOP when your own "Democrat" President doesn't support legalizing marijuana.

    Would he sign the bill?  I have not read that he would veto it.
    And of 220 votes, only 3 Republicans voted for it. Not hard to see why blaming GOP isn't easy to do....unless you're making a disingenuous argument. 
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  • DewieCox
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    JB16057 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    you don't usually need insulin for type 2. you need it for type 1, which is not caused by obesity. it's autoimmune. and without out it, people die. and with it, some people go bankrupt. 
    Ok. Let's breakdown those numbers. Approx. 1.6 million have Diabetes 1 in the US. All need insulin.

    There are 37 million that have Diabetes 2. About 30% of those need insulin which equates to 11 million needing insulin.

    There are way more Diabetes 2 patients that need insulin and most of them did it to themselves.

    I have no issue helping out the 1.6 million that don't have a choice or opportunity. If there was a fair way to help out everyone with diabetes, I wouldn't mind. The concerns from the GOP on this bill is that will unfairly and unevenly effect the heath insurance system as it currently stands. For me, I have a small business so I have to purchase my own health insurance. I only have 1 company to purchase from. I've had insurance my whole life and knock on wood, have never had to use it. I have to pay a higher premium every year already. Like I said, let's make a fair and even approach to this and I'll accept but this isn't it.

    Here are 2 more valid concerns:

    "Other critics of the legislation point out that the Affordable Insulin Act has some loopholes, namely that it wouldn’t include the coverage of the 28 million people in the US who don’t have health insurance.

    It also doesn’t address the major issue of the US pharmaceutical companies price gouging the overall price of the lifesaving drug, and instead shifts that burden onto a person’s insurers and employers."

    Great, now talk about all the ideas and policies the GOP have pushed that could potentially help combat those preventable numbers.
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Worthwhile thread: 

    https://twitter.com/abigaildisney/status/1509904775726436356?s=21&t=l2TnVbQwSYuxb5cSDqsJwQ
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,641
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    also, today the US house voted to decriminalize marijuana. it will probably die in the senate, but i will give you one guess as to the party that voted against it.
    Biden does not support legalization.



    Biden’s blunt opposition to marijuana legalization



    True, but he does support decriminalization so your counter point is moo.
    Legalization would be decriminalization. My point is that you are all putting blame on the GOP when your own "Democrat" President doesn't support legalizing marijuana.

    Would he sign the bill?  I have not read that he would veto it.
    And of 220 votes, only 3 Republicans voted for it. Not hard to see why blaming GOP isn't easy to do....unless you're making a disingenuous argument. 
    It would be interesting to see how many of them get donations from private prison companies.
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  • Bentleyspop
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    Republican-controlled states have higher murder rates than Democratic ones: study

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    What was that about voter fraud? Again?

    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2022/04/05/trump-aide-seeking-nh-house-seat-voted-in-2-states-in-2016/
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    Bentleyspop said:
    see what i mean? always punching down on everyone they disagree with.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,832
    legalizing child marriage? GROSS
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  • OnWis97
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    legalizing child marriage? GROSS
    Years ago I saw a story about child marriage, which I hadn't even realized was a thing. And I was absolutely blown away not only by how many states allow it but by the number of people (I think it was Twitter) defending it. It didn't even seem to be a firm "crazy right wing" stance. It seemed like there was a sizable minority across the spectrum. I realize it was anecdotal and maybe child marriage fans on social media make a point to be very present whenever the topic comes up, but they were dominating the replies, with very few suggesting that maybe it's not a good idea to tie a 16 year old to one person for the rest of their life.

    It's way more common in the United States than I'd have believed. I'm a cynical guy (no shit, eh?) but I would never have thought that a lot of parents would sign of on their 14-17-year-old daughters (usually) making that lifelong commitment, regardless of how age inappropriate the partner is.

    300,000 in the US since 2000. Some states don't even have lowest-age limits.

    https://populationmatters.org/news/2021/04/child-marriage-us-where-outrage#:~:text=About 300,000 children with a,in gender inequality and patriarchy.

    44 states allow it in some circumstances. Alaska allows it at 14 and three more stats allow it at 15.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States#U.S._States

    It's creepy, it's wrong, and I imagine it's life-ruining for the victims. And yes, they're victims whether they want this to occur or not. I don't think any society can be truly great if this is allowed.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    that borderlines on trafficking as far as I'm concerned. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Underage marriage and sexual consent[edit]

    In the United States, the age of sexual consent varies by state, territory/district, or federal law, and typically ranges from 16 to 18 years.

    State-legislated age of consent laws and marriage age laws are inconsistent in relation to one another. In some states, it is possible for a minor to legally marry even if they are below the age of consent in that state. Between 2000 and 2015, at least 200,000 minors were legally married in the United States. 86% of those marriages were between that minor and an adult. About 5% of the minors were aged 15 or younger, meaning they would be under the age of consent in all United States territories.[31]

    In some cases, judges who approve an underage marriage, for example because the minor is pregnant, may be approving a marriage between a rapist and their statutory victim.[64]


    GROSS

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  • cblock4life
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    This is child abuse.  It’s disgusting.  I know it’s been posted before but dear god a child’s skull doesn’t even fully fuse until early to mid 20’s (difference of opinion on exact age).  It’s like one step forward three steps back in this country.  

    Just think, all this crazy ass shit, crazy ass ideas that these sick men and woman have were just lying in wait until someone gave them permission to show their true selves.  And the most disgusting part is that there’s soooo many who are ok with this shit.  I guess all these supporters would be ok with their daughters participating?  Crazy, crazy stuff. 
  • mickeyrat
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    Trump aide seeking NH House seat voted in 2 states in 2016
    By BRIAN SLODYSKO and HOLLY RAMER
    Today

    CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — A former Trump administration official now running for Congress in New Hampshire voted twice during the 2016 primary election season, potentially violating federal voting law and leaving him at odds with the Republican Party’s intense focus on “election integrity."

    Matt Mowers, a leading Republican primary candidate looking to unseat Democratic Rep. Chris Pappas, cast an absentee ballot in New Hampshire's 2016 presidential primary, voting records show. At the time, Mowers served as the director of former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's presidential campaign in the pivotal early voting state.

    Four months later, after Christie's bid fizzled, Mowers cast another ballot in New Jersey's Republican presidential primary, using his parents' address to re-register in his home state, documents The Associated Press obtained through a public records request show.

    Legal experts say Mowers' actions could violate a federal law that prohibits “voting more than once” in “any general, special, or primary election." That includes casting a ballot in separate jurisdictions “for an election to the same candidacy or office.” It also puts Mowers, who was a senior adviser in Donald Trump's administration and later held a State Department post, in an awkward spot at a time when much of his party has embraced the former president's lies about a stolen 2020 election and has pushed for restrictive new election laws.

    The issue could have particular resonance in New Hampshire, where Republicans have long advocated for tighter voting rules to prevent short-term residents, namely college students, from participating in its first-in-the-nation presidential primary.

    “What he has done is cast a vote in two different states for the election of a president, which on the face of it looks like he’s violated federal law,” said David Schultz, a professor at the University of Minnesota Law School who specializes in election law. ”You get one bite at the voting apple."

    Mowers' campaign declined to make him available for an interview. In a brief statement that did not address the double-voting, campaign spokesman John Corbett cited Mowers' work for Trump's 2016 campaign.

    “Matt was proud to work for President Trump as the GOP establishment was working to undermine his nomination,” Corbett said. “Matt moved for work and was able to participate in the primary in support of President Trump and serve as a delegate at a critical time for the Republican Party and country.”

    There is little chance Mowers could face prosecution. The statute of limitations has lapsed, and there is no record of anyone being prosecuted under this specific section of federal election law, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, which tracks the issue.

    Mowers is just the latest former Trump administration official to draw scrutiny for potentially violating voting laws.

    Mark Meadows, a former North Carolina congressman who served as Trump's chief of staff, was registered in two states and listed a mobile home he did not own — and may never have visited — as his legal residence weeks before casting a ballot in the 2020 election. North Carolina state officials are investigating.

    Not everyone agrees Mowers' situation is a clear-cut case of voter fraud. For starters, it’s an undeveloped area of law. Any court would have to contend with complicated issues such as whether a primary could be viewed as a public election or as an event held by a private organization that is administered with government help.

    “With the right set of facts, it could be construed as a violation, but it's just not at all obvious to me that it is,” said Steven Huefner, an Ohio State University law school professor who specializes in election law. “It is a pretty murky question.”

    Charlie Spies, a Republican election lawyer who contacted the AP at the request of Mowers' campaign, called the matter “silly." He said the double-voting was “at worst a gray area" of the law and “not the sort of issue anybody would spend time on.”

    That may not matter in a congressional primary that has drawn a half-dozen Republican candidates, some of whom stepped their criticism of Mowers on Tuesday.

    Karoline Leavitt, a former Trump White House assistant press secretary, said Mowers owed voters “an honest answer." She said he “potentially violated election law and his initial reaction is to hide behind his attorney.”

    Gail Huff Brown said Republicans "cannot nominate someone who has engaged in voter fraud and expect to be taken seriously on the topic.” She is married to Scott Brown, a former Massachusetts senator who was Trump's ambassador to New Zealand.

    State Rep. Tim Baxter jabbed at “Jersey Mowers” and said the double-vote was “the exact election fraud problem voters across America are sick of.”

    Mowers' campaign website features a section dedicated to “election integrity," stating that new laws are needed to “provide every American citizen with the certainty that their vote counts.”

    He also echoes the long-standing Republican criticism about out-of-state voters, endorsing an efforts by the state's legislature to make sure “only legal residents of New Hampshire are entitled to vote."

    This isn't the first run Mowers, who is in his early 30s, has made for the seat, which is a top Republican target in the 2022 midterm elections. In 2020, he earned Trump's endorsement and won the Republican nomination before losing to Pappas by 5 percentage points.

    This time could be different, though. Biden's flagging approval rating has made Republicans bullish on their prospects. And thanks to a once-in-a-decade redrawing of congressional districts, Republicans who now control the state legislature and governor's office, are poised to approve more advantageous maps.

    Mowers promotes his time living in New Hampshire with his wife and young child. But he is not a native to the state, spending much of his life in New Jersey.

    A graduate of Rutgers, he came up through New Jersey politics, working for Christie's gubernatorial administration, as well as Christie's reelection campaign. That led to an appearance in the 2016 “Bridgegate” trial, where Mowers testified about his unsuccessful attempts to prod a Democratic mayor to endorse Christie, which resulted in acts of retribution and ultimately two convictions of close Christie allies. Mowers was not accused of wrongdoing in the case.

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  • Bentleyspop
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    Bentleyspop said:

    sedition caucus.
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  • mickeyrat
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    this dude is like a venereal disease....
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  • FiveBelow
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    Bentleyspop said:

    For integrity’s sake, a quick google search would be a good idea before sharing from a platform so rife with misinformation. 
  • mickeyrat
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    FiveBelow said:
    Bentleyspop said:

    For integrity’s sake, a quick google search would be a good idea before sharing from a platform so rife with misinformation. 

    https://www.joshmandel.com/news/us-senate-candidate-and-marine-corps-veteran-josh-mandel-releases-first-ad-of-senate-campaign

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