Well, first of all there is the issue that almost all venues in the country are implicated with organizations selling tickets, so this could be hard to implement. Also, there is something about a small venue that makes a show special.
I also don't know that the middle of the country would be most convenient for people anywhere. You mentioned international people, but I bet for most americans it is easier and less expensive to travel to NYC or LA than to Kansas . Anyway, all things considered... how many people are in tenclub? Active I mean... 50,000? I would say for a show in Kansas, 15,000 get tickets. A little more for one on either coast. I doubt more than 25,000 tickets would be sold.
Totally random idea, but just curious if you guys think it would work.
Let's say PJ decided they wanted to put on the craziest Pearl Jam show ever. They wanted it to be a fan club only show -- but with the guarantee that any 10-clubber who wants to go will have a spot (they each get to bring a date, of course).
So they choose a location somewhere in the middle of the country (say, Kansas -- sorry international people, you'd have to travel for this one!) and a venue large enough to hold a shitload of people (say, a football stadium).
They announce that they would hold a poll on their website of what songs their fans want them to play. The top 30-35 songs that we vote for will comprise the setlist (PJ gets to choose the order, of course).
They sell tickets through their fan club only, since this is technically a private show.
Now...it's a stretch, I know...but hypothetically, how many people do you think would attend this show? And would it without question be the greatest show (and party) of all time?
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And, I'd pay up to $150 to make this happen. I think if every active TC member sent $150 to the band with this request, then it would happen. I say lets start a petition, or a fundraiser of sorts, to make this happen.
Of course, PJ could send a portion of the proceeds to a special, needy charity.
I was thinking about charity too, how cool would that be? I'd definitely be willing to pay up to 150 too. We should make a poll, how many of us here in the pit are actually interested about a project like this.
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Well, first of all there is the issue that almost all venues in the country are implicated with organizations selling tickets, so this could be hard to implement. Also, there is something about a small venue that makes a show special.
I also don't know that the middle of the country would be most convenient for people anywhere. You mentioned international people, but I bet for most americans it is easier and less expensive to travel to NYC or LA than to Kansas . Anyway, all things considered... how many people are in tenclub? Active I mean... 50,000? I would say for a show in Kansas, 15,000 get tickets. A little more for one on either coast. I doubt more than 25,000 tickets would be sold.
Nar the best show would be my setlist not what everyone else votes on :P
And it would be in Melbourne... and I'd get to choose the venue.... my back yard?
Totally random idea, but just curious if you guys think it would work.
Let's say PJ decided they wanted to put on the craziest Pearl Jam show ever. They wanted it to be a fan club only show -- but with the guarantee that any 10-clubber who wants to go will have a spot (they each get to bring a date, of course).
So they choose a location somewhere in the middle of the country (say, Kansas -- sorry international people, you'd have to travel for this one!) and a venue large enough to hold a shitload of people (say, a football stadium).
They announce that they would hold a poll on their website of what songs their fans want them to play. The top 30-35 songs that we vote for will comprise the setlist (PJ gets to choose the order, of course).
They sell tickets through their fan club only, since this is technically a private show.
Now...it's a stretch, I know...but hypothetically, how many people do you think would attend this show? And would it without question be the greatest show (and party) of all time?
yes.. definitely in Europe. I was thinking about Netherlands or Denmark.
And it doesnt have to be mega super big event necessarily, if we could get a core fan base to start up the whole thing and spread word and collect funds, it would start to make some sense
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I don't know why I know this but I think in 2000 Korn had a poll on their website for the setlist each night. I forget exactly what it was, but I think the fans got to vote for 10 songs that would be up in the air on different nights. Pretty cool idea considering the band isn't cool at all
yes.. definitely in Europe. I was thinking about Netherlands or Denmark.
And it doesnt have to be mega super big event necessarily, if we could get a core fan base to start up the whole thing and spread word and collect funds, it would start to make some sense
Nah, we want it in the UK.
But yeah, Holland would rule. I think Italy would be the best.
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But yeah, Holland would rule. I think Italy would be the best.
Oh, yes.
Ok, set.
I've changed my mind. They could definitely pull of 60000 or so. Play it at Meazza soccer stadium, "nella bella Milano", about thirty yards from my parents' apartment
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Haha, wow, didn't expect that people would take this so seriously.
But, since the idea seems to be generally supported, why not look into it? Is there anyone who doesn't think a Pearl Jam concert of this sort would be the greatest show in the history of the universe?
Before we start collecting money, making new websites, etc., we first need to look into the plausibility of this happening.
Does anyone on here know -- or know someone who knows -- about how concerts are organized, paid for, etc.? Are there any rules about booking a show that we wouldn't be able to accomplish as non-industry people?
Also, is there anyone close enough to the band or its management to get an idea of whether or not there'd ever be a chance in hell that they would go for something like this?
Once we get an answer to those two questions, THEN we can start appointing people to look into the logistics further...
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Haha, wow, didn't expect that people would take this so seriously.
But, since the idea seems to be generally supported, why not look into it? Is there anyone who doesn't think a Pearl Jam concert of this sort would be the greatest show in the history of the universe?
Before we start collecting money, making new websites, etc., we first need to look into the plausibility of this happening.
Does anyone on here know -- or know someone who knows -- about how concerts are organized, paid for, etc.? Are there any rules about booking a show that we wouldn't be able to accomplish as non-industry people?
Also, is there anyone close enough to the band or its management to get an idea of whether or not there'd ever be a chance in hell that they would go for something like this?
Once we get an answer to those two questions, THEN we can start appointing people to look into the logistics further...
Honestly, looks like they are pretty stingy with small 10c only shows. Why would they do a huge one, with a guarantee of a seat for each member, having the fans dictate the setlist?
But hey... Milan
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
Haha, wow, didn't expect that people would take this so seriously.
But, since the idea seems to be generally supported, why not look into it? Is there anyone who doesn't think a Pearl Jam concert of this sort would be the greatest show in the history of the universe?
Before we start collecting money, making new websites, etc., we first need to look into the plausibility of this happening.
Does anyone on here know -- or know someone who knows -- about how concerts are organized, paid for, etc.? Are there any rules about booking a show that we wouldn't be able to accomplish as non-industry people?
Also, is there anyone close enough to the band or its management to get an idea of whether or not there'd ever be a chance in hell that they would go for something like this?
Once we get an answer to those two questions, THEN we can start appointing people to look into the logistics further...
I hate to be a buzzkill, but i (along w/2 others) tried to do almost this exact same thing about 4-5 yrs ago, we got just under 3,000 signatures, and that took months! and we got it as far as band management, and then it stalled.
We had websites made, and w/over 30,000 board members at that time, we only got about 2,900 sigs.
There are so many factors that are out of your reach, and this is so much more expensive than you'd believe. We were hit w/the facts, and for the 3 of us, it was just way too big of a mountain to climb.
Again, sorry to be a buzzkill, but don't get your hopes up.
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That would be an unbelievable show... - though I dont like the stadium idea. A huge stage setup in the middle of a desert, or a field of some sorts - and 100.000 or more fans rocking sounds good to me. It would be phenomenal.
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Very positive idea, although I am not sure if there would still be ppl whining. Of course with 37.0000...is that the number?....you can never satisfy all.
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I had an idea...(stemmed from seeing people sitting??? at PJ..and I'm talking
up front, not the lawns) I want to have like a "last man standing".
If you fall asleep, or get too trashed..ya gotta go. The people behind get to
move up...and so on. I would be there until they played every single song in their catalogue...even through the covers!!! Sounds like a 3 day PJ fest to me!!! Just something stupid I thought up
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I had an idea...(stemmed from seeing people sitting??? at PJ..and I'm talking
up front, not the lawns) I want to have like a "last man standing".
If you fall asleep, or get too trashed..ya gotta go. The people behind get to
move up...and so on. I would be there until they played every single song in their catalogue...even through the covers!!! Sounds like a 3 day PJ fest to me!!! Just something stupid I thought up
Yeah, definitely, signs of crappy behaviour etc: the person is out - and, yeah.. maybe the people could switch seats during breaks.. not a bad idea, i must admit. Or should I say places, I dont like the ideas of seats in a rock concert - if you get tired, you could go to your tent and sleep.
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This is such a great idea, but I think guaranteeing every 10c member a seat will be the biggest problem. There has to be at least 600,000 members in the 10c (my member # is in the 400,000 range and I've been a member for almost 10 years). So let's figure a 1/3 of the members live outside of North America and couldn't attend... that leaves 400,000. Now figure another 1/3 couldn't make it to the venue due to costs of travel, scheduling conflicts, etc... that leaves 200,000. Now every member gets a pair of tickets, so they would have to find a venue that could accomodate almost a half a million people. That's pretty much impossible. If PJ would ever do something like this it would have to be on a first come first serve basis for all 10c members and and hopefully they would play more than one night so everyone at least has a shot of seeing it once.
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but with the guarantee that any 10-clubber who wants to go will have a spot (they each get to bring a date, of course).
This is such a great idea, but I think guaranteeing every 10c member a seat will be the biggest problem. There have to be at least 600,000 members in the 10c (my member # is in the 400,000 range and I've been a member for almost 10 years). So let's figure a 1/3 of the members live outside of North America and couldn't attend... that leaves 400,000. Now figure another 1/3 couldn't make it to the venue due to costs of travel, scheduling conflicts, etc... that leaves 200,000. Now every member gets a pair of tickets, so they would have to find a venue that could accomodate almost a half a million people. That's pretty much impossible. If PJ would ever do something like this it would have to be on a first come first serve basis for all 10c members and and hopefully they would play more than one night so everyone at least has a shot of seeing it once.
Yes, it would never work with such many people. Realistically, the concert capacity could be something like 10.000-40.000 people depending on the venue and location. Huge masses of people, like in bonnaroo, the only option is camping out.
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Well, first of all there is the issue that almost all venues in the country are implicated with organizations selling tickets, so this could be hard to implement. Also, there is something about a small venue that makes a show special.
I also don't know that the middle of the country would be most convenient for people anywhere. You mentioned international people, but I bet for most americans it is easier and less expensive to travel to NYC or LA than to Kansas
I was thinking about charity too, how cool would that be?
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And it would be in Melbourne... and I'd get to choose the venue.... my back yard?
yes.. definitely in Europe. I was thinking about Netherlands or Denmark.
And it doesnt have to be mega super big event necessarily, if we could get a core fan base to start up the whole thing and spread word and collect funds, it would start to make some sense
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If it has to be truly memorable, that goes without saying
But yeah, Holland would rule. I think Italy would be the best.
Oh, yes.
you're right. Europe is the place to be.
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Actually, instead of bumping we need to create a petition.
a petition on a different site.. or a new poll thread here?..
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Yeah, there's no hurry, of course..
But this idea really is very inspiring.
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Ok, set.
I've changed my mind. They could definitely pull of 60000 or so. Play it at Meazza soccer stadium, "nella bella Milano", about thirty yards from my parents' apartment
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But, since the idea seems to be generally supported, why not look into it? Is there anyone who doesn't think a Pearl Jam concert of this sort would be the greatest show in the history of the universe?
Before we start collecting money, making new websites, etc., we first need to look into the plausibility of this happening.
Does anyone on here know -- or know someone who knows -- about how concerts are organized, paid for, etc.? Are there any rules about booking a show that we wouldn't be able to accomplish as non-industry people?
Also, is there anyone close enough to the band or its management to get an idea of whether or not there'd ever be a chance in hell that they would go for something like this?
Once we get an answer to those two questions, THEN we can start appointing people to look into the logistics further...
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Honestly, looks like they are pretty stingy with small 10c only shows. Why would they do a huge one, with a guarantee of a seat for each member, having the fans dictate the setlist?
But hey... Milan
I hate to be a buzzkill, but i (along w/2 others) tried to do almost this exact same thing about 4-5 yrs ago, we got just under 3,000 signatures, and that took months! and we got it as far as band management, and then it stalled.
We had websites made, and w/over 30,000 board members at that time, we only got about 2,900 sigs.
There are so many factors that are out of your reach, and this is so much more expensive than you'd believe. We were hit w/the facts, and for the 3 of us, it was just way too big of a mountain to climb.
Again, sorry to be a buzzkill, but don't get your hopes up.
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Very positive idea, although I am not sure if there would still be ppl whining. Of course with 37.0000...is that the number?....you can never satisfy all.
I had an idea...(stemmed from seeing people sitting??? at PJ..and I'm talking
up front, not the lawns) I want to have like a "last man standing".
If you fall asleep, or get too trashed..ya gotta go. The people behind get to
move up...and so on. I would be there until they played every single song in their catalogue...even through the covers!!! Sounds like a 3 day PJ fest to me!!! Just something stupid I thought up
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Yeah, definitely, signs of crappy behaviour etc: the person is out - and, yeah.. maybe the people could switch seats during breaks..
Won't let the darkness swallow me.
Yes, it would never work with such many people. Realistically, the concert capacity could be something like 10.000-40.000 people depending on the venue and location. Huge masses of people, like in bonnaroo, the only option is camping out.
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