Sea. Hear. Now Festival 2020 Update

ComeToTX

this will be the last Dr. Dog tour as well.  More reason to go!

danlee1095

mcgruff10 said:

Neptune and ap border each other so that whole area is pretty rough.  Just stay east of the railroad tracks in ap and you will be fine. Just to the north of ap is million dollar homes in allenhurst and deal.  To the south is three awesome beach towns: Bradley beach, ocean grove (og to locals) and Avon.  Cross the bridge and it becomes fist pump territory in belmar with bars like d jais and bar a.  

Tons of great restaurants and breweries in the area.   Ask a question and one of us locals will answer.  I grew up about five minutes from ap in a town called Neptune city, different than Neptune
anybody staying in tinton falls (my ex lives there) is about twenty minutes from the venue.  Mass transportation is non existent in that area from what I know so you ll have to Uber or rent a car. 

This is very helpful and appreciate the offer of advice @mcgruff10.  Thoughts on Atlantic Inn & Suites in Belmar (technically 1916 NJ-35, Wall Township)? It looks fine but want to make sure we will be safe, etc. Driving from Long Island so will have my car too.  I also have a super sweet house booked (sleeps 7) for 3 nights right at festival grounds but likely to cancel because it is SO expensive and now I'm only staying the one night (unless PJ does a surprise gig at Stone Pony or elsewhere AND I can get a ticket...).  I feel like something like that will go down but none of us will get access...  One can dream!  Either way so damn excited.

danlee1095

Another theory re Bruce.  I could see him actually not making an appearance on Saturday (Patti will have her time to shine) with plenty of rumors flowing that he will make an appearance at some point and then all the die-hards sticking around Sunday in the hope he does.  At least if I was running the festival AND I was friends with Bruce that's what I would try for - obviously Saturday will be oversold but like many of us, I can't see sticking around Sunday for the Pumpkins (and if anyone needs two Sunday bracelets real cheap, DM me.)  Who know - all the speculation is half the fun.  Who remembers all the Neil rumors before MSG2 in 03??

kaw753

danlee1095 said:

Another theory re Bruce.  I could see him actually not making an appearance on Saturday (Patti will have her time to shine) with plenty of rumors flowing that he will make an appearance at some point and then all the die-hards sticking around Sunday in the hope he does.  At least if I was running the festival AND I was friends with Bruce that's what I would try for - obviously Saturday will be oversold but like many of us, I can't see sticking around Sunday for the Pumpkins (and if anyone needs two Sunday bracelets real cheap, DM me.)  Who know - all the speculation is half the fun.  Who remembers all the Neil rumors before MSG2 in 03??

20 years ago, I went to the Stones show at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC. Previous shows had Sting, Bono, and others show up. It being NYC, there was buzz that every huge artist in the world would be there.

The opening act Jonny Lang came out and played a song with them. That was it.

So, my friend and I are sitting at the bar and I say to him, "Look at those losers on the other side of the bar trying to look like The Strokes." Turns out it was The Strokes. Nice guys! 

danlee1095

kaw753 said:

danlee1095 said:

Another theory re Bruce.  I could see him actually not making an appearance on Saturday (Patti will have her time to shine) with plenty of rumors flowing that he will make an appearance at some point and then all the die-hards sticking around Sunday in the hope he does.  At least if I was running the festival AND I was friends with Bruce that's what I would try for - obviously Saturday will be oversold but like many of us, I can't see sticking around Sunday for the Pumpkins (and if anyone needs two Sunday bracelets real cheap, DM me.)  Who know - all the speculation is half the fun.  Who remembers all the Neil rumors before MSG2 in 03??

20 years ago, I went to the Stones show at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC. Previous shows had Sting, Bono, and others show up. It being NYC, there was buzz that every huge artist in the world would be there.

The opening act Jonny Lang came out and played a song with them. That was it.

So, my friend and I are sitting at the bar and I say to him, "Look at those losers on the other side of the bar trying to look like The Strokes." Turns out it was The Strokes. Nice guys! 

Love it!!  I've met a few of the Strokes too / very cool guys. Living in NYC during that period gave us so much access to see them just about everywhere (and in tiny clubs.)  They are always a blast live and even though I've seen them 15+ times now, still so mad at myself that I missed them at Ohana a couple years back when EV played one of my all time favorite PJ songs with them: Hard to Imagine. Just phenomenal.

rey

danlee1095 said:

kaw753 said:

danlee1095 said:

Another theory re Bruce.  I could see him actually not making an appearance on Saturday (Patti will have her time to shine) with plenty of rumors flowing that he will make an appearance at some point and then all the die-hards sticking around Sunday in the hope he does.  At least if I was running the festival AND I was friends with Bruce that's what I would try for - obviously Saturday will be oversold but like many of us, I can't see sticking around Sunday for the Pumpkins (and if anyone needs two Sunday bracelets real cheap, DM me.)  Who know - all the speculation is half the fun.  Who remembers all the Neil rumors before MSG2 in 03??

20 years ago, I went to the Stones show at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC. Previous shows had Sting, Bono, and others show up. It being NYC, there was buzz that every huge artist in the world would be there.

The opening act Jonny Lang came out and played a song with them. That was it.

So, my friend and I are sitting at the bar and I say to him, "Look at those losers on the other side of the bar trying to look like The Strokes." Turns out it was The Strokes. Nice guys! 

Love it!!  I've met a few of the Strokes too / very cool guys. Living in NYC during that period gave us so much access to see them just about everywhere (and in tiny clubs.)  They are always a blast live and even though I've seen them 15+ times now, still so mad at myself that I missed them at Ohana a couple years back when EV played one of my all time favorite PJ songs with them: Hard to Imagine. Just phenomenal.

Honestly, I can see Bruce not making an appearance at all.  He showed up and played with Social Distortion in 2018 and then in 2019 there were tons of rumors that he would play with the Dropkick Murphys (who he's recorded and played live with before) but he didn't show up.  I forget where I heard it but someone said that they think that both Bruce and Danny Clinch don't want the focus of the festival every year to be whether Bruce will show up and who he will play with.  Basically they don't want the festival to become See.Bruce.Now.

By the way, I'm actually looking for wrist bands for Sunday only for real cheap.  Will send you a DM.

mcgruff10

@danlee1095 wall/belmar are both very nice towns.  There aren’t any rough spots on route 35, looks like a typical motel to me.  You are about five minutes to the beach (down town spring lake is gorgeous), five minutes from downtown belmar which has really good restaurants.  Maybe 20 minutes to the venue.  You basically just take route 35 straight for a few miles then make a right.  

The original 10th Ave burrito is in belmar.  

I think Bentley Diamond is across the street from this motel which is where I bought my wife her engagement ring.  

on2legs

rey said:

danlee1095 said:

kaw753 said:

danlee1095 said:

Another theory re Bruce.  I could see him actually not making an appearance on Saturday (Patti will have her time to shine) with plenty of rumors flowing that he will make an appearance at some point and then all the die-hards sticking around Sunday in the hope he does.  At least if I was running the festival AND I was friends with Bruce that's what I would try for - obviously Saturday will be oversold but like many of us, I can't see sticking around Sunday for the Pumpkins (and if anyone needs two Sunday bracelets real cheap, DM me.)  Who know - all the speculation is half the fun.  Who remembers all the Neil rumors before MSG2 in 03??

20 years ago, I went to the Stones show at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC. Previous shows had Sting, Bono, and others show up. It being NYC, there was buzz that every huge artist in the world would be there.

The opening act Jonny Lang came out and played a song with them. That was it.

So, my friend and I are sitting at the bar and I say to him, "Look at those losers on the other side of the bar trying to look like The Strokes." Turns out it was The Strokes. Nice guys! 

Love it!!  I've met a few of the Strokes too / very cool guys. Living in NYC during that period gave us so much access to see them just about everywhere (and in tiny clubs.)  They are always a blast live and even though I've seen them 15+ times now, still so mad at myself that I missed them at Ohana a couple years back when EV played one of my all time favorite PJ songs with them: Hard to Imagine. Just phenomenal.

Honestly, I can see Bruce not making an appearance at all.  He showed up and played with Social Distortion in 2018 and then in 2019 there were tons of rumors that he would play with the Dropkick Murphys (who he's recorded and played live with before) but he didn't show up.  I forget where I heard it but someone said that they think that both Bruce and Danny Clinch don't want the focus of the festival every year to be whether Bruce will show up and who he will play with.  Basically they don't want the festival to become See.Bruce.Now.

By the way, I'm actually looking for wrist bands for Sunday only for real cheap.  Will send you a DM.

As much as I would love it, I’m feeling like Patti Scialfa playing Saturday night could work against Bruce showing up.  I think he might feel like it’s her night to be the star in the family and he doesn’t want to steal the spotlight from her. 

Get_Right

on2legs said:

rey said:

danlee1095 said:

kaw753 said:

danlee1095 said:

Another theory re Bruce.  I could see him actually not making an appearance on Saturday (Patti will have her time to shine) with plenty of rumors flowing that he will make an appearance at some point and then all the die-hards sticking around Sunday in the hope he does.  At least if I was running the festival AND I was friends with Bruce that's what I would try for - obviously Saturday will be oversold but like many of us, I can't see sticking around Sunday for the Pumpkins (and if anyone needs two Sunday bracelets real cheap, DM me.)  Who know - all the speculation is half the fun.  Who remembers all the Neil rumors before MSG2 in 03??

20 years ago, I went to the Stones show at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC. Previous shows had Sting, Bono, and others show up. It being NYC, there was buzz that every huge artist in the world would be there.

The opening act Jonny Lang came out and played a song with them. That was it.

So, my friend and I are sitting at the bar and I say to him, "Look at those losers on the other side of the bar trying to look like The Strokes." Turns out it was The Strokes. Nice guys! 

Love it!!  I've met a few of the Strokes too / very cool guys. Living in NYC during that period gave us so much access to see them just about everywhere (and in tiny clubs.)  They are always a blast live and even though I've seen them 15+ times now, still so mad at myself that I missed them at Ohana a couple years back when EV played one of my all time favorite PJ songs with them: Hard to Imagine. Just phenomenal.

Honestly, I can see Bruce not making an appearance at all.  He showed up and played with Social Distortion in 2018 and then in 2019 there were tons of rumors that he would play with the Dropkick Murphys (who he's recorded and played live with before) but he didn't show up.  I forget where I heard it but someone said that they think that both Bruce and Danny Clinch don't want the focus of the festival every year to be whether Bruce will show up and who he will play with.  Basically they don't want the festival to become See.Bruce.Now.

By the way, I'm actually looking for wrist bands for Sunday only for real cheap.  Will send you a DM.

As much as I would love it, I’m feeling like Patti Scialfa playing Saturday night could work against Bruce showing up.  I think he might feel like it’s her night to be the star in the family and he doesn’t want to steal the spotlight from her. 

Patti playing Saturday means it is likely he will be present.  Other than that it is a total crapshoot.   

on2legs

Get_Right said:

on2legs said:

rey said:

danlee1095 said:

kaw753 said:

danlee1095 said:

Another theory re Bruce.  I could see him actually not making an appearance on Saturday (Patti will have her time to shine) with plenty of rumors flowing that he will make an appearance at some point and then all the die-hards sticking around Sunday in the hope he does.  At least if I was running the festival AND I was friends with Bruce that's what I would try for - obviously Saturday will be oversold but like many of us, I can't see sticking around Sunday for the Pumpkins (and if anyone needs two Sunday bracelets real cheap, DM me.)  Who know - all the speculation is half the fun.  Who remembers all the Neil rumors before MSG2 in 03??

20 years ago, I went to the Stones show at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC. Previous shows had Sting, Bono, and others show up. It being NYC, there was buzz that every huge artist in the world would be there.

The opening act Jonny Lang came out and played a song with them. That was it.

So, my friend and I are sitting at the bar and I say to him, "Look at those losers on the other side of the bar trying to look like The Strokes." Turns out it was The Strokes. Nice guys! 

Love it!!  I've met a few of the Strokes too / very cool guys. Living in NYC during that period gave us so much access to see them just about everywhere (and in tiny clubs.)  They are always a blast live and even though I've seen them 15+ times now, still so mad at myself that I missed them at Ohana a couple years back when EV played one of my all time favorite PJ songs with them: Hard to Imagine. Just phenomenal.

Honestly, I can see Bruce not making an appearance at all.  He showed up and played with Social Distortion in 2018 and then in 2019 there were tons of rumors that he would play with the Dropkick Murphys (who he's recorded and played live with before) but he didn't show up.  I forget where I heard it but someone said that they think that both Bruce and Danny Clinch don't want the focus of the festival every year to be whether Bruce will show up and who he will play with.  Basically they don't want the festival to become See.Bruce.Now.

By the way, I'm actually looking for wrist bands for Sunday only for real cheap.  Will send you a DM.

As much as I would love it, I’m feeling like Patti Scialfa playing Saturday night could work against Bruce showing up.  I think he might feel like it’s her night to be the star in the family and he doesn’t want to steal the spotlight from her. 

Patti playing Saturday means it is likely he will be present.  Other than that it is a total crapshoot.   

No doubt.  But present and performing are two different things.  According to setlist fm, she hasn’t played a show as a solo artist since 2004.   So I could definitely see Bruce being reluctant to grab a guitar and get on stage. 

mcgruff10

Patti solo is pretty rough.  Easy pass.  

tdawe

"There's also rumors that everyone from, of course, Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young, who we love, that they may be coming down - but they ain't coming down. We might play one of their songs. But, I just - you can't be fucking disappointed, we're up, we're gonna work our fucking asses off, but Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen: they ain't comin'. Neil Peart from Rush ain't coming, and we don't fucking need him because we got Mr. Matt Cameron right there. Nothing against Neil Peart but, we just don't need him tonight. And then it got into, like, Billy Joel, Dave Matthews and Bon Jovi - who the fuck starts these rumors? And we don't need those fucking guys 'cause you got me, so..."

danlee1095

mcgruff10 said:

@danlee1095 wall/belmar are both very nice towns.  There aren’t any rough spots on route 35, looks like a typical motel to me.  You are about five minutes to the beach (down town spring lake is gorgeous), five minutes from downtown belmar which has really good restaurants.  Maybe 20 minutes to the venue.  You basically just take route 35 straight for a few miles then make a right.  

The original 10th Ave burrito is in belmar.  

I think Bentley Diamond is across the street from this motel which is where I bought my wife her engagement ring.  

This is all a giant help and can't thank you enough for the intel - feel better about it and splitting the double room with a friend too so already a great value compared to the nicer places closer.  Will def. check out the burrito place after I buy a few diamonds... ha ha.

danlee1095

tdawe said:

"There's also rumors that everyone from, of course, Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young, who we love, that they may be coming down - but they ain't coming down. We might play one of their songs. But, I just - you can't be fucking disappointed, we're up, we're gonna work our fucking asses off, but Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen: they ain't comin'. Neil Peart from Rush ain't coming, and we don't fucking need him because we got Mr. Matt Cameron right there. Nothing against Neil Peart but, we just don't need him tonight. And then it got into, like, Billy Joel, Dave Matthews and Bon Jovi - who the fuck starts these rumors? And we don't need those fucking guys 'cause you got me, so..."

Philly 09 N4, right?

tdawe

danlee1095 said:

tdawe said:

"There's also rumors that everyone from, of course, Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young, who we love, that they may be coming down - but they ain't coming down. We might play one of their songs. But, I just - you can't be fucking disappointed, we're up, we're gonna work our fucking asses off, but Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen: they ain't comin'. Neil Peart from Rush ain't coming, and we don't fucking need him because we got Mr. Matt Cameron right there. Nothing against Neil Peart but, we just don't need him tonight. And then it got into, like, Billy Joel, Dave Matthews and Bon Jovi - who the fuck starts these rumors? And we don't need those fucking guys 'cause you got me, so..."

Philly 09 N4, right?

Yup

kaw753

mcgruff10 said:

Patti solo is pretty rough.  Easy pass.  

I have seen Springsteen on Broadway and she plays some songs with Bruce. I am no detective, but I would suspect they might play those songs at her show (unless she wants it to be her own thing outside of Bruce).

Jearlpam0925

Locals - are there tolls on Ocean Ave/the bridge from Belmar to Asbury? Down the shore (South Jersey, Ocean Drive) this type of road has a toll at each water crossing, which fine, I get. But they started charging cyclists for this as well. Just curious if I'll need to pay the troll toll while biking up from Belmar.

kotton_crown

Jearlpam0925 said:

Locals - are there tolls on Ocean Ave/the bridge from Belmar to Asbury? Down the shore (South Jersey, Ocean Drive) this type of road has a toll at each water crossing, which fine, I get. But they started charging cyclists for this as well. Just curious if I'll need to pay the troll toll while biking up from Belmar.

No toll there brotha 

Jearlpam0925

kotton_crown said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Locals - are there tolls on Ocean Ave/the bridge from Belmar to Asbury? Down the shore (South Jersey, Ocean Drive) this type of road has a toll at each water crossing, which fine, I get. But they started charging cyclists for this as well. Just curious if I'll need to pay the troll toll while biking up from Belmar.

No toll there brotha 

Thanks! Looking forward to the ride.

mcgruff10

Jearlpam0925 said:

Locals - are there tolls on Ocean Ave/the bridge from Belmar to Asbury? Down the shore (South Jersey, Ocean Drive) this type of road has a toll at each water crossing, which fine, I get. But they started charging cyclists for this as well. Just curious if I'll need to pay the troll toll while biking up from Belmar.

Just make sure you don't get the bridge.