Matt Gaetz

Halifax2TheMax

Bahama Mamas? Oh dear. And I ain’t talking shirts.

Gern Blansten

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/matt-gaetz-joel-greenberg-plea-deal/2021/04/08/a1da46ca-965d-11eb-b28d-bfa7bb5cb2a5_story.html

ORLANDO — An associate of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) who had been charged with sex trafficking of a minor and was suspected of connecting the congressmen to women with whom he could have sex is in plea negotiations to resolve the allegations against him, according to his lawyer and a prosecutor on the case, a potentially ominous sign for Gaetz if the associate ultimately cooperates with prosecutors in a bid for leniency.

Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector for Seminole County, Fla., had first been charged last summer in a bare-bones indictment that prosecutors repeatedly superseded to add charges of sex trafficking of a minor, stealing from the tax office and even trying to use fraud to get covid-19 relief money while out on bond. In the course of the investigation into his conduct, people familiar with the matter have said, federal authorities came across evidence that Gaetz might have committed a crime and launched a separate investigation into him.

At a status conference in the case Thursday, federal prosecutor Roger Handberg told a judge he expected the case to end in a plea, though negotiations are ongoing. Fritz Scheller, an attorney for Greenberg, asked the judge to set a deadline of May 15 for the two sides to either reach a deal, or move toward a trial in the summer.

It was not immediately clear how far the negotiations had gotten, or to what extent a plea agreement would require Greenberg to cooperate with investigators. If prosecutors were to get Greenberg on their side as a cooperator, it is possible he could help bolster the case against Gaetz, a higher-profile target. A person who pleads guilty in a criminal case can often lessen their potential penalty by providing information that might be helpful to investigators in other matters.

Gaetz is said to have boasted of his ‘access to women’ provided by friend charged in sex-trafficking case

Gaetz, known for his fierce allegiance to former president Donald Trump, would boast to people in Florida politics that he met women through Greenberg, and he also showed them videos on his phone of naked or topless women on multiple occasions, including at parties with Greenberg, people familiar with the matter have said.

Greenberg had been a colorful political player in Seminole County, where he unseated a longtime incumbent in the race for tax collector, won a political battle to allow his deputies to carry guns on the job and flaunted his connections to prominent Republicans.

HughFreakingDillon

I hope they live stream his arrest. 

and maybe they'll cut to Boebert holding a sign "I still stand with Matt!". 

josevolution

HughFreakingDillon said:

I hope they live stream his arrest. 

and maybe they'll cut to Boebert holding a sign "I still stand with Matt!". 

With two AR15’s strapped to her back!

The Juggler

#SAVETHECHILDREN!

static111

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/matt-gaetz-joel-greenberg-plea-deal/2021/04/08/a1da46ca-965d-11eb-b28d-bfa7bb5cb2a5_story.html

ORLANDO — An associate of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) who had been charged with sex trafficking of a minor and was suspected of connecting the congressmen to women with whom he could have sex is in plea negotiations to resolve the allegations against him, according to his lawyer and a prosecutor on the case, a potentially ominous sign for Gaetz if the associate ultimately cooperates with prosecutors in a bid for leniency.

Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector for Seminole County, Fla., had first been charged last summer in a bare-bones indictment that prosecutors repeatedly superseded to add charges of sex trafficking of a minor, stealing from the tax office and even trying to use fraud to get covid-19 relief money while out on bond. In the course of the investigation into his conduct, people familiar with the matter have said, federal authorities came across evidence that Gaetz might have committed a crime and launched a separate investigation into him.

At a status conference in the case Thursday, federal prosecutor Roger Handberg told a judge he expected the case to end in a plea, though negotiations are ongoing. Fritz Scheller, an attorney for Greenberg, asked the judge to set a deadline of May 15 for the two sides to either reach a deal, or move toward a trial in the summer.

It was not immediately clear how far the negotiations had gotten, or to what extent a plea agreement would require Greenberg to cooperate with investigators. If prosecutors were to get Greenberg on their side as a cooperator, it is possible he could help bolster the case against Gaetz, a higher-profile target. A person who pleads guilty in a criminal case can often lessen their potential penalty by providing information that might be helpful to investigators in other matters.

Gaetz is said to have boasted of his ‘access to women’ provided by friend charged in sex-trafficking case

Gaetz, known for his fierce allegiance to former president Donald Trump, would boast to people in Florida politics that he met women through Greenberg, and he also showed them videos on his phone of naked or topless women on multiple occasions, including at parties with Greenberg, people familiar with the matter have said.

Greenberg had been a colorful political player in Seminole County, where he unseated a longtime incumbent in the race for tax collector, won a political battle to allow his deputies to carry guns on the job and flaunted his connections to prominent Republicans.

Someone at my place of work that is a conservative that believes demonic elites are sucking blood and pedophiles and who claims to be against pedophilia, is saying Geatz is just getting smeared and that 17 isn’t pedophilia. It’s crazy.  I mean it’s Texas, but wtf everything t he y accuse the other side of doing ends up coming back on them and the supporters keep on buying their shit.  We are hopeless as a nation folks 75million idiots every single one

Halifax2TheMax

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/matt-gaetz-joel-greenberg-plea-deal/2021/04/08/a1da46ca-965d-11eb-b28d-bfa7bb5cb2a5_story.html

ORLANDO — An associate of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) who had been charged with sex trafficking of a minor and was suspected of connecting the congressmen to women with whom he could have sex is in plea negotiations to resolve the allegations against him, according to his lawyer and a prosecutor on the case, a potentially ominous sign for Gaetz if the associate ultimately cooperates with prosecutors in a bid for leniency.

Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector for Seminole County, Fla., had first been charged last summer in a bare-bones indictment that prosecutors repeatedly superseded to add charges of sex trafficking of a minor, stealing from the tax office and even trying to use fraud to get covid-19 relief money while out on bond. In the course of the investigation into his conduct, people familiar with the matter have said, federal authorities came across evidence that Gaetz might have committed a crime and launched a separate investigation into him.

At a status conference in the case Thursday, federal prosecutor Roger Handberg told a judge he expected the case to end in a plea, though negotiations are ongoing. Fritz Scheller, an attorney for Greenberg, asked the judge to set a deadline of May 15 for the two sides to either reach a deal, or move toward a trial in the summer.

It was not immediately clear how far the negotiations had gotten, or to what extent a plea agreement would require Greenberg to cooperate with investigators. If prosecutors were to get Greenberg on their side as a cooperator, it is possible he could help bolster the case against Gaetz, a higher-profile target. A person who pleads guilty in a criminal case can often lessen their potential penalty by providing information that might be helpful to investigators in other matters.

Gaetz is said to have boasted of his ‘access to women’ provided by friend charged in sex-trafficking case

Gaetz, known for his fierce allegiance to former president Donald Trump, would boast to people in Florida politics that he met women through Greenberg, and he also showed them videos on his phone of naked or topless women on multiple occasions, including at parties with Greenberg, people familiar with the matter have said.

Greenberg had been a colorful political player in Seminole County, where he unseated a longtime incumbent in the race for tax collector, won a political battle to allow his deputies to carry guns on the job and flaunted his connections to prominent Republicans.

Someone at my place of work that is a conservative that believes demonic elites are sucking blood and pedophiles and who claims to be against pedophilia, is saying Geatz is just getting smeared and that 17 isn’t pedophilia. It’s crazy.  I mean it’s Texas, but wtf everything t he y accuse the other side of doing ends up coming back on them and the supporters keep on buying their shit.  We are hopeless as a nation folks 75million idiots every single one

You’re telling me?

static111

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/matt-gaetz-joel-greenberg-plea-deal/2021/04/08/a1da46ca-965d-11eb-b28d-bfa7bb5cb2a5_story.html

ORLANDO — An associate of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) who had been charged with sex trafficking of a minor and was suspected of connecting the congressmen to women with whom he could have sex is in plea negotiations to resolve the allegations against him, according to his lawyer and a prosecutor on the case, a potentially ominous sign for Gaetz if the associate ultimately cooperates with prosecutors in a bid for leniency.

Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector for Seminole County, Fla., had first been charged last summer in a bare-bones indictment that prosecutors repeatedly superseded to add charges of sex trafficking of a minor, stealing from the tax office and even trying to use fraud to get covid-19 relief money while out on bond. In the course of the investigation into his conduct, people familiar with the matter have said, federal authorities came across evidence that Gaetz might have committed a crime and launched a separate investigation into him.

At a status conference in the case Thursday, federal prosecutor Roger Handberg told a judge he expected the case to end in a plea, though negotiations are ongoing. Fritz Scheller, an attorney for Greenberg, asked the judge to set a deadline of May 15 for the two sides to either reach a deal, or move toward a trial in the summer.

It was not immediately clear how far the negotiations had gotten, or to what extent a plea agreement would require Greenberg to cooperate with investigators. If prosecutors were to get Greenberg on their side as a cooperator, it is possible he could help bolster the case against Gaetz, a higher-profile target. A person who pleads guilty in a criminal case can often lessen their potential penalty by providing information that might be helpful to investigators in other matters.

Gaetz is said to have boasted of his ‘access to women’ provided by friend charged in sex-trafficking case

Gaetz, known for his fierce allegiance to former president Donald Trump, would boast to people in Florida politics that he met women through Greenberg, and he also showed them videos on his phone of naked or topless women on multiple occasions, including at parties with Greenberg, people familiar with the matter have said.

Greenberg had been a colorful political player in Seminole County, where he unseated a longtime incumbent in the race for tax collector, won a political battle to allow his deputies to carry guns on the job and flaunted his connections to prominent Republicans.

Someone at my place of work that is a conservative that believes demonic elites are sucking blood and pedophiles and who claims to be against pedophilia, is saying Geatz is just getting smeared and that 17 isn’t pedophilia. It’s crazy.  I mean it’s Texas, but wtf everything t he y accuse the other side of doing ends up coming back on them and the supporters keep on buying their shit.  We are hopeless as a nation folks 75million idiots every single one

You’re telling me?

Pretty sure that you already know, you’ve been somewhat vocal a time or two.

Halifax2TheMax

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/matt-gaetz-joel-greenberg-plea-deal/2021/04/08/a1da46ca-965d-11eb-b28d-bfa7bb5cb2a5_story.html

ORLANDO — An associate of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) who had been charged with sex trafficking of a minor and was suspected of connecting the congressmen to women with whom he could have sex is in plea negotiations to resolve the allegations against him, according to his lawyer and a prosecutor on the case, a potentially ominous sign for Gaetz if the associate ultimately cooperates with prosecutors in a bid for leniency.

Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector for Seminole County, Fla., had first been charged last summer in a bare-bones indictment that prosecutors repeatedly superseded to add charges of sex trafficking of a minor, stealing from the tax office and even trying to use fraud to get covid-19 relief money while out on bond. In the course of the investigation into his conduct, people familiar with the matter have said, federal authorities came across evidence that Gaetz might have committed a crime and launched a separate investigation into him.

At a status conference in the case Thursday, federal prosecutor Roger Handberg told a judge he expected the case to end in a plea, though negotiations are ongoing. Fritz Scheller, an attorney for Greenberg, asked the judge to set a deadline of May 15 for the two sides to either reach a deal, or move toward a trial in the summer.

It was not immediately clear how far the negotiations had gotten, or to what extent a plea agreement would require Greenberg to cooperate with investigators. If prosecutors were to get Greenberg on their side as a cooperator, it is possible he could help bolster the case against Gaetz, a higher-profile target. A person who pleads guilty in a criminal case can often lessen their potential penalty by providing information that might be helpful to investigators in other matters.

Gaetz is said to have boasted of his ‘access to women’ provided by friend charged in sex-trafficking case

Gaetz, known for his fierce allegiance to former president Donald Trump, would boast to people in Florida politics that he met women through Greenberg, and he also showed them videos on his phone of naked or topless women on multiple occasions, including at parties with Greenberg, people familiar with the matter have said.

Greenberg had been a colorful political player in Seminole County, where he unseated a longtime incumbent in the race for tax collector, won a political battle to allow his deputies to carry guns on the job and flaunted his connections to prominent Republicans.

Someone at my place of work that is a conservative that believes demonic elites are sucking blood and pedophiles and who claims to be against pedophilia, is saying Geatz is just getting smeared and that 17 isn’t pedophilia. It’s crazy.  I mean it’s Texas, but wtf everything t he y accuse the other side of doing ends up coming back on them and the supporters keep on buying their shit.  We are hopeless as a nation folks 75million idiots every single one

You’re telling me?

Pretty sure that you already know, you’ve been somewhat vocal a time or two.

It was an exaggerated incredulousness. But sincere and full of incredulity giving way to resignation. Deplorable.

dignin

Gaetz Paid Accused Sex Trafficker, Who Then Venmo’d Teen

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) in 2018 paid an accused sex trafficker who later sent the same amount of cash to teen girls, according to a report from The Daily Beast.

Gaetz sent two Venmo transactions amounting to $900 to accused sex trafficker Joel Greenberg in May 2018. He labeled the first transaction “test” and the second transaction “hit up _____,” with the alleged nickname of a young woman. 

Greenberg later sent money to three girls labeled as “Tuition,” “School” and “School" that totaled $900

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/547280-gaetz-paid-accused-sex-trafficker-who-later-sent-same-amount-of-cash-to-teen

The Juggler

The fact that venmo has a social media aspect to it has always seemed ridiculous to me. Paypal all the way. 

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

The fact that venmo has a social media aspect to it has always seemed ridiculous to me. Paypal all the way. 

I'm with you on the stupid social media aspect of Venmo, but otherwise, I think it's way better than PayPal. I'm my fantasy football league's commissioner and I don't even allow PayPal anymore because of some of the issues I have with it. I've had two fraudulent eBay purchases through my PayPal despite changing my passwords after the first one (and dealing with PayPal to get them rectified was terrible). PayPal had some stupid option where you had to choose between whether it's a personnel payment or a business payment, and if was business, they took a percentage. And of course business was the default setting so dumbasses in my fantasy league would choose the wrong one. And, at least with my bank, it took a shorter amount of time to transfer money to/from Venmo than it did to transfer to PayPal. PayPal seems better for merchants, but for just person-to-person, I think Venmo is way better. 

You're living in the past, man! You're hung up on some money transfer app from the 2000's, man!

gimmesometruth27

if you are gonna pay someone to procure you some party girls, for the love of god do not write it on the memo line...

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

The fact that venmo has a social media aspect to it has always seemed ridiculous to me. Paypal all the way. 

I'm with you on the stupid social media aspect of Venmo, but otherwise, I think it's way better than PayPal. I'm my fantasy football league's commissioner and I don't even allow PayPal anymore because of some of the issues I have with it. I've had two fraudulent eBay purchases through my PayPal despite changing my passwords after the first one (and dealing with PayPal to get them rectified was terrible). PayPal had some stupid option where you had to choose between whether it's a personnel payment or a business payment, and if was business, they took a percentage. And of course business was the default setting so dumbasses in my fantasy league would choose the wrong one. And, at least with my bank, it took a shorter amount of time to transfer money to/from Venmo than it did to transfer to PayPal. PayPal seems better for merchants, but for just person-to-person, I think Venmo is way better. 

You're living in the past, man! You're hung up on some money transfer app from the 2000's, man!

I still have a friend who has neither and when I need to send him money (our Eagles tickets are in his name) I have to mail him a fucking check like its 1986 or something. Same guy who had a flip phone until maybe 6 years ago.

People give me guff for paypal. My fantasy commissioner also prefers venmo too. My wife has one so I just send and receive through her account for those instances. 

But all you gotta do is make sure "personal" is selected and you have no problem, it seems. Paypal has been around forever and, to my knowledge, has a great track record when it comes to security breaches and that's huge for me. Also really simple to pay for stuff online. 

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

The fact that venmo has a social media aspect to it has always seemed ridiculous to me. Paypal all the way. 

I'm with you on the stupid social media aspect of Venmo, but otherwise, I think it's way better than PayPal. I'm my fantasy football league's commissioner and I don't even allow PayPal anymore because of some of the issues I have with it. I've had two fraudulent eBay purchases through my PayPal despite changing my passwords after the first one (and dealing with PayPal to get them rectified was terrible). PayPal had some stupid option where you had to choose between whether it's a personnel payment or a business payment, and if was business, they took a percentage. And of course business was the default setting so dumbasses in my fantasy league would choose the wrong one. And, at least with my bank, it took a shorter amount of time to transfer money to/from Venmo than it did to transfer to PayPal. PayPal seems better for merchants, but for just person-to-person, I think Venmo is way better. 

You're living in the past, man! You're hung up on some money transfer app from the 2000's, man!

I still have a friend who has neither and when I need to send him money (our Eagles tickets are in his name) I have to mail him a fucking check like its 1986 or something. Same guy who had a flip phone until maybe 6 years ago.

People give me guff for paypal. My fantasy commissioner also prefers venmo too. My wife has one so I just send and receive through her account for those instances. 

But all you gotta do is make sure "personal" is selected and you have no problem, it seems. Paypal has been around forever and, to my knowledge, has a great track record when it comes to security breaches and that's huge for me. Also really simple to pay for stuff online. 

I have a friend like that too. A bunch of us got an AirBnB for what would've been the PJ show in Baltimore last year, and when it was refunded, I had to send him a check for like $40. 

Yeah PayPal is fine purchases through eBay and the like, but for just sending some quick cash to somebody, I think Venmo is the way to go. But while I make everyone in my fantasy football league use Venmo, the commissioner of my fantasy baseball league prefers PayPal. He has an AOL email address....of course. 

Ledbetterman10

As for Gaetz, even GOP congressmen are calling for his resignation....

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/matt-gaetz-needs-resign-says-gop-rep-adam-kinzinger-n1263607

gimmesometruth27

Ledbetterman10 said:

As for Gaetz, even GOP congressmen are calling for his resignation....

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/matt-gaetz-needs-resign-says-gop-rep-adam-kinzinger-n1263607

that is kinzinger, who might as well be a dem. i am not saying gop congressmen are calling for anything until more than kinzinger steps up.

The Juggler

gimmesometruth27 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

As for Gaetz, even GOP congressmen are calling for his resignation....

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/matt-gaetz-needs-resign-says-gop-rep-adam-kinzinger-n1263607

that is kinzinger, who might as well be a dem. i am not saying gop congressmen are calling for anything until more than kinzinger steps up.

You mean might as well be a Republican. It's the other Republicans who are different, not Kinzinger. 

Ledbetterman10

gimmesometruth27 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

As for Gaetz, even GOP congressmen are calling for his resignation....

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/matt-gaetz-needs-resign-says-gop-rep-adam-kinzinger-n1263607

that is kinzinger, who might as well be a dem. i am not saying gop congressmen are calling for anything until more than kinzinger steps up.

Well you don't see anyone outside of Jordan and Taylor-Green defending him either though. 

josevolution

Yeah one calling for his resignation is nada GOP still the look away party!