psst...6/10/2020

SHZA

HughFreakingDillon said:

SHZA said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

SHZA said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

whoyouare72 said:

elvistheking44 said:

....The trade bait purchase sucks ass for the person who was next in line only to miss out to someone who has no intention of keeping it. Flip for money or flip for other items....it’s ALL flipping.

Your argument is flawed because you assume if I didn't buy it then the "next in line" person is someone who wanted it. You don't know who would have gotten it, it very well could have gone to someone who would put it on Ebay!

TRADING IS NOT FLIPPING! Don't hate the player....

of course it is. all you are doing is substituting stupid amounts of money for an item you actually want for an item you don't want and someone else did. 

his argument is not flawed. he is not speaking just to you. he's speaking to all trading flippers. 

if you are buying an item you don't plan on keeping because you want to trade up = flipping. it's not a difficult concept. currency isn't just cash. i've done it. i'm not proud of it, and don't do it anymore. cause i felt like a dick after. 

The sale page says not for resale. It says nothing about trades. The flaw in the argument is the assumption that the next person in line is a pure-hearted soul who is going to use the board until it wears out and would never dream of flipping it or trading it for something else. In reality, it would just be another flipper. The only way it wouldn't is if all the flippers decided to stop flipping, which is never going to happen. 

There's no need to feel like a Richard for making trades. This is all frivolous junk. It's not like you're taking food off someone's table. No grown man needs a skateboard with koala bears or a viewfinder. If they need to have it that bad, stop crying about the missed drop and go buy one on ebay. 

haha. resale or trading are the same damn thing. like i said. all you are doing is substituting one currency (money) for another (goods). there is no flaw in the argument. if the flaw is "well someone else will do it" then all laws go out the window too. that is the weakest ass argument i've heard. sounds like something a 5 year old would say. "but (my sibling) did it first!). so dumb. 

your last paragraph reeks of hypocrisy. if the person who is buying it just to trade it for something they want, then THEY should stop crying about the missed item they wanted and go buy one on ebay. see how that works?

You keep equating a legitimate purchase with something illegal. It's not. You just don't like it. 

It's not hypocritical at all. The trader isn't crying about the missed item. They understand how the game works and are taking action. Paying the cash price if you can acquire the trade bait for $300 less is just dumb.

i never equated a legitimate purchase with something illegal. i said the idea that "someone else will do it" is the same argument a criminal could use. if i equated anything, it's that trading flippers use juvenile reasoning and apply it to what they are doing. 

flipping for money isn't illegal.
flipping for trade bait isn't illegal.
both are being a shitty human.  
understand?

You did. You said it was like stealing and then giving it back if you couldn't sell it on the street, then you said "well, we might as well throw the laws out the window." No one is talking about the flipper's reasoning. We're talking about your flawed assumption that shaming traders will somehow put all of the items in the hands of "true fans."

I'm sure there are plenty of behaviors that may warrant the extreme label of "shitty human" (e.g., judging others); I'm quite certain that Pearl Jam memorabilia trading isn't one of them. Understand? 

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on2legs

I say we solve about 1,000 other problems in the world and then tackle the issue of someone trading a skateboard.  

HughFreakingDillon

of course the strawman would make an appearance in this thread. it always does. when you know you can't defend your stance, claim it's no big deal and there are so many other things in the world we can worry about. 

SHZA

HughFreakingDillon said:

of course the strawman would make an appearance in this thread. it always does. when you know you can't defend your stance, claim it's no big deal and there are so many other things in the world we can worry about. 

Not really. Rational people just realize that in the grand scheme of things, it's not worth getting so worked up that you go around calling people "sh*tty human beings." 

hihobibo

patrickwieczore said:

And now the complaining will commence...

We have two pages of 40+ year old people calling each other names, debating what constitutes flipping, and complaining about not being able to buy an overpriced skateboard deck that they aren't going to ride. 

Without poster drops due to the lack of a tour, I really missed these threads on the forum.

cp3iverson

Hahahaha

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Geriatric skate deck squabbles (need to be over 65 yrs. to participate).

KM73780

Not all PJ fans are over 40 🤚

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