The Joe Rogan Thread

Gern Blansten

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

I cheer Desantis mostly because tRump will unleash the fury on him as soon as he indicates he's in the running. No way those two fucksticks run on the same ticket. Desantis likely knows (and is being advised) that he needs to break from tRump and when that happens it will be glorious.

The GOP might have a victory party this year but I think they will divide in 2024 between tRump and whomever is the nominee.....which isn't going to be tRump.

tempo_n_groove

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

Rogan is a far right extremist who hates the dems. 

But rds is much smarter than trump and could think of many ways to crunch the dems and derail stuff like renewable energy. And he'd have much better coattails than rump.

I don't ever see Rogan as a far right extremist.  That is a bit much.

cblock4life

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

Halifax2TheMax

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

HughFreakingDillon

Rogan is far from far right, or extreme. I'd put him in more of a libertarian bucket than anything. 

cblock4life

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

Merkin Baller

nvm 

TJ25487

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

mrussel1

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

nicknyr15

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

That one from a few months ago. 

Lerxst1992

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

That one from a few months ago. 

Here is my list of new Biden laws to answer KP a few days ago. Of course that never got a response from that member, perhaps TJ can step up to the plate?

1. Best US climate law ever. Yes there is a climate crisis 

2. Best semiconductor chip law ever. New USA manufacturing all over the states

3. New infrastructure law. Promised by trump for years and years, delivered by Biden.

4. Best gun safety law in nearly 30 years, supported by a majority of.....Republicans 

5. Medicare prescription drug cost decreases. Again promised by both sides for years, delivered by Biden.

6. Minimum tax on corporate profits for companies like Amazon who tell wall street they make billions, but never report taxable income. You probably pay taxes, why shouldn't billionaires?

7. Expanded health care and benefits for Veterans...promised by Republicans forever....delivered by Biden.

nicknyr15

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

That one from a few months ago. 

Here is my list of new Biden laws to answer KP a few days ago. Of course that never got a response from that member, perhaps TJ can step up to the plate?

1. Best US climate law ever. Yes there is a climate crisis 

2. Best semiconductor chip law ever. New USA manufacturing all over the states

3. New infrastructure law. Promised by trump for years and years, delivered by Biden.

4. Best gun safety law in nearly 30 years, supported by a majority of.....Republicans 

5. Medicare prescription drug cost decreases. Again promised by both sides for years, delivered by Biden.

6. Minimum tax on corporate profits for companies like Amazon who tell wall street they make billions, but never report taxable income. You probably pay taxes, why shouldn't billionaires?

7. Expanded health care and benefits for Veterans...promised by Republicans forever....delivered by Biden.

I was just being stupid and teasing with my comment. 

mrussel1

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

That one from a few months ago. 

Here is my list of new Biden laws to answer KP a few days ago. Of course that never got a response from that member, perhaps TJ can step up to the plate?

1. Best US climate law ever. Yes there is a climate crisis 

2. Best semiconductor chip law ever. New USA manufacturing all over the states

3. New infrastructure law. Promised by trump for years and years, delivered by Biden.

4. Best gun safety law in nearly 30 years, supported by a majority of.....Republicans 

5. Medicare prescription drug cost decreases. Again promised by both sides for years, delivered by Biden.

6. Minimum tax on corporate profits for companies like Amazon who tell wall street they make billions, but never report taxable income. You probably pay taxes, why shouldn't billionaires?

7. Expanded health care and benefits for Veterans...promised by Republicans forever....delivered by Biden.

I was just being stupid and teasing with my comment. 

I agree with you.  That one in particular has wrecked the country, or it will or it might.  Or maybe not.  

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

Rogan is far from far right, or extreme. I'd put him in more of a libertarian bucket than anything. 

Dude endorsed trump over Biden. On what evidence does he base his opinion on? Which of those seven laws Biden signed posted above, some of which trump supported and failed to accomplish, would rogan say is a bad law?

Rogan panders the the right with zero accountability to truth and fact, with a very large audience. That makes him every bit as dangerous as a right wing extremist.

Lerxst1992

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

That one from a few months ago. 

Here is my list of new Biden laws to answer KP a few days ago. Of course that never got a response from that member, perhaps TJ can step up to the plate?

1. Best US climate law ever. Yes there is a climate crisis 

2. Best semiconductor chip law ever. New USA manufacturing all over the states

3. New infrastructure law. Promised by trump for years and years, delivered by Biden.

4. Best gun safety law in nearly 30 years, supported by a majority of.....Republicans 

5. Medicare prescription drug cost decreases. Again promised by both sides for years, delivered by Biden.

6. Minimum tax on corporate profits for companies like Amazon who tell wall street they make billions, but never report taxable income. You probably pay taxes, why shouldn't billionaires?

7. Expanded health care and benefits for Veterans...promised by Republicans forever....delivered by Biden.

I was just being stupid and teasing with my comment. 

I know- am trying to get TJ or KP to reply. 

TJ25487

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

That one from a few months ago. 

Here is my list of new Biden laws to answer KP a few days ago. Of course that never got a response from that member, perhaps TJ can step up to the plate?

1. Best US climate law ever. Yes there is a climate crisis 

2. Best semiconductor chip law ever. New USA manufacturing all over the states

3. New infrastructure law. Promised by trump for years and years, delivered by Biden.

4. Best gun safety law in nearly 30 years, supported by a majority of.....Republicans 

5. Medicare prescription drug cost decreases. Again promised by both sides for years, delivered by Biden.

6. Minimum tax on corporate profits for companies like Amazon who tell wall street they make billions, but never report taxable income. You probably pay taxes, why shouldn't billionaires?

7. Expanded health care and benefits for Veterans...promised by Republicans forever....delivered by Biden.

I'm always happy to help when available. 

1,2,4 - "Best" ? Did it actually say that in the bill? I don't think so. 

3) Trump tried to work with congress on infrastructure and they weren't having it. There was no way in hell the Dems and even some of the Republicans would allow a major  law get passed like immigration under Trump. It would empower him even further. 

5) Is this similar to Obamacare? We all know how that turned out. Rates went up. You couldn't always keep your doctor like promised and it put some insurance companies out of business or they just got out of the business. 

6) Not sure about that one so won't comment. 

7) The Vets are going to need more benefits after killing a bunch of them during the botched Afghan withdrawal. 

mickeyrat

TJ25487 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

That one from a few months ago. 

Here is my list of new Biden laws to answer KP a few days ago. Of course that never got a response from that member, perhaps TJ can step up to the plate?

1. Best US climate law ever. Yes there is a climate crisis 

2. Best semiconductor chip law ever. New USA manufacturing all over the states

3. New infrastructure law. Promised by trump for years and years, delivered by Biden.

4. Best gun safety law in nearly 30 years, supported by a majority of.....Republicans 

5. Medicare prescription drug cost decreases. Again promised by both sides for years, delivered by Biden.

6. Minimum tax on corporate profits for companies like Amazon who tell wall street they make billions, but never report taxable income. You probably pay taxes, why shouldn't billionaires?

7. Expanded health care and benefits for Veterans...promised by Republicans forever....delivered by Biden.

I'm always happy to help when available. 

1,2,4 - "Best" ? Did it actually say that in the bill? I don't think so. 

3) Trump tried to work with congress on infrastructure and they weren't having it. There was no way in hell the Dems and even some of the Republicans would allow a major  law get passed like immigration under Trump. It would empower him even further. 

5) Is this similar to Obamacare? We all know how that turned out. Rates went up. You couldn't always keep your doctor like promised and it put some insurance companies out of business or they just got out of the business. 

6) Not sure about that one so won't comment. 

7) The Vets are going to need more benefits after killing a bunch of them during the botched Afghan withdrawal. 

#7....  these?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/583581-biden-signs-four-bills-aimed-to-help-veterans/

or maybe these....

https://usmilitary.org/bi-partisan-bills-signed-veterans-health-care/

Halifax2TheMax

TJ25487 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

That one from a few months ago. 

Here is my list of new Biden laws to answer KP a few days ago. Of course that never got a response from that member, perhaps TJ can step up to the plate?

1. Best US climate law ever. Yes there is a climate crisis 

2. Best semiconductor chip law ever. New USA manufacturing all over the states

3. New infrastructure law. Promised by trump for years and years, delivered by Biden.

4. Best gun safety law in nearly 30 years, supported by a majority of.....Republicans 

5. Medicare prescription drug cost decreases. Again promised by both sides for years, delivered by Biden.

6. Minimum tax on corporate profits for companies like Amazon who tell wall street they make billions, but never report taxable income. You probably pay taxes, why shouldn't billionaires?

7. Expanded health care and benefits for Veterans...promised by Republicans forever....delivered by Biden.

I'm always happy to help when available. 

1,2,4 - "Best" ? Did it actually say that in the bill? I don't think so. 

3) Trump tried to work with congress on infrastructure and they weren't having it. There was no way in hell the Dems and even some of the Republicans would allow a major  law get passed like immigration under Trump. It would empower him even further. 

5) Is this similar to Obamacare? We all know how that turned out. Rates went up. You couldn't always keep your doctor like promised and it put some insurance companies out of business or they just got out of the business. 

6) Not sure about that one so won't comment. 

7) The Vets are going to need more benefits after killing a bunch of them during the botched Afghan withdrawal. 

Please let me know when the “bigger, better, more beautiful, less expensive” repub plan to replace Obama care is implemented. 35 million ‘Muricans are counting on them.

eddiec

TJ25487 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

That one from a few months ago. 

Here is my list of new Biden laws to answer KP a few days ago. Of course that never got a response from that member, perhaps TJ can step up to the plate?

1. Best US climate law ever. Yes there is a climate crisis 

2. Best semiconductor chip law ever. New USA manufacturing all over the states

3. New infrastructure law. Promised by trump for years and years, delivered by Biden.

4. Best gun safety law in nearly 30 years, supported by a majority of.....Republicans 

5. Medicare prescription drug cost decreases. Again promised by both sides for years, delivered by Biden.

6. Minimum tax on corporate profits for companies like Amazon who tell wall street they make billions, but never report taxable income. You probably pay taxes, why shouldn't billionaires?

7. Expanded health care and benefits for Veterans...promised by Republicans forever....delivered by Biden.

I'm always happy to help when available. 

1,2,4 - "Best" ? Did it actually say that in the bill? I don't think so. 

3) Trump tried to work with congress on infrastructure and they weren't having it. There was no way in hell the Dems and even some of the Republicans would allow a major  law get passed like immigration under Trump. It would empower him even further. 

5) Is this similar to Obamacare? We all know how that turned out. Rates went up. You couldn't always keep your doctor like promised and it put some insurance companies out of business or they just got out of the business. 

6) Not sure about that one so won't comment. 

7) The Vets are going to need more benefits after killing a bunch of them during the botched Afghan withdrawal. 

'The Art of the Deal' was always fiction. It turns out Trump is a terrible negotiator, that's why nothing got done.

I still remember his supporters saying what a great President he would make because he was a businessman and that's what the country needed. Well, they were wrong on that one too.

tempo_n_groove

eddiec said:

TJ25487 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

DewieCox said:

Gern Blansten said:

DewieCox said:

He wants Desantis. Not the W it appears to be.

I'll take Desantis over tRump 24/7 365....Desantis is a fucknut but he's nowhere near as deranged as tRump

I wouldn’t. If you think the “own the libs” mindset is scary now, just look how people have cheered his string of blatantly fascist acts over the last few months. 

Agree…..a smarter Trump is extremely dangerous.  I’m hoping that Liz Cheney will decide to run, that way if the reps win again she is tolerable and at least she hates trump.  Most are saying she won’t get the nomination over trump though. 

What’s more dangerous, a smarter POOTWH or a dick, like Deathsantis? From WaPo.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is having a moment. Pundits are suggesting that the Jan. 6 hearings, by exposing former president Donald Trump’s complicity in a coup attempt, will redound to DeSantis’s benefit in 2024. Already, a poll in New Hampshire shows DeSantis topping Trump. The question, from the standpoint of those of us who have a sentimental attachment to American democracy, is which man is a bigger threat to the republic? I found myself grappling with that issue as I read a long and enlightening profile of DeSantis by Dexter Filkins in the New Yorker.

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Filkins notes that, “while Trump, with his lazy, Barnumesque persona, projects a fundamental lack of seriousness, DeSantis has an intense work ethic, a formidable intelligence, and a granular understanding of policy. Articulate and fast on his feet, he has been described as Trump with a brain.” But do we really want a president who will work harder and more intelligently to implement a Trumpian agenda? Is it really better to have a president who is relentlessly focused on right-wing bugaboos such as critical race theory, transgender athletes, undocumented immigrants and “woke corporations” rather than one who is easily distracted into braggadocio about his golf game or his flooring?

Actually, the more I read about DeSantis, the more he reminds me not of Trump but of another disgraced Republican president. One of DeSantis’s Yale baseball teammates told Filkins he is really “smart” but deficient in interpersonal skills: “He has always loved embarrassing and humiliating people. I’m speaking for others — he was the biggest d---k we knew.” A former House colleague said of DeSantis: “He’s a little reclusive, a bit of an odd duck … but he’s just incredibly disciplined.”

I do think trump would be less inclined to do everything the GOP wants.  He likes to come up with his own stupid ideas….experimenting with disinfectant to cure covid, instigating a violent crowd to storm the capital.  But you’re right - DeSantis would be the end of the country for sure. Plus, he could be president for 8 years in a row, perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country. 

" perfect amount of time to destroy an entire country." 

By 2024 it wouldn't take him long at all after Biden gets done with it. 

Which law that Biden signed in the last two years is doing the most destruction to the country, would you say?  

That one from a few months ago. 

Here is my list of new Biden laws to answer KP a few days ago. Of course that never got a response from that member, perhaps TJ can step up to the plate?

1. Best US climate law ever. Yes there is a climate crisis 

2. Best semiconductor chip law ever. New USA manufacturing all over the states

3. New infrastructure law. Promised by trump for years and years, delivered by Biden.

4. Best gun safety law in nearly 30 years, supported by a majority of.....Republicans 

5. Medicare prescription drug cost decreases. Again promised by both sides for years, delivered by Biden.

6. Minimum tax on corporate profits for companies like Amazon who tell wall street they make billions, but never report taxable income. You probably pay taxes, why shouldn't billionaires?

7. Expanded health care and benefits for Veterans...promised by Republicans forever....delivered by Biden.

I'm always happy to help when available. 

1,2,4 - "Best" ? Did it actually say that in the bill? I don't think so. 

3) Trump tried to work with congress on infrastructure and they weren't having it. There was no way in hell the Dems and even some of the Republicans would allow a major  law get passed like immigration under Trump. It would empower him even further. 

5) Is this similar to Obamacare? We all know how that turned out. Rates went up. You couldn't always keep your doctor like promised and it put some insurance companies out of business or they just got out of the business. 

6) Not sure about that one so won't comment. 

7) The Vets are going to need more benefits after killing a bunch of them during the botched Afghan withdrawal. 

'The Art of the Deal' was always fiction. It turns out Trump is a terrible negotiator, that's why nothing got done.

I still remember his supporters saying what a great President he would make because he was a businessman and that's what the country needed. Well, they were wrong on that one too.

The infrastructure deal always aggravated me.  I wondered why it never went through.