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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    brianlux said:
    Glorified KC said:
    brianlux said:
    shecky said:


    Oh MY GOD!  Our savior at last!
    :rofl:

    We can only be so lucky that God was there to save him from the bullet.

    I have often wished aliens would come and whisk him away to another planet, but in reality, the last thing we need is for Trump to become a martyr, so I'm glad he wasn't killed (and I don't like killing anyway).   It's ridiculous enough that somehow some people think that getting shot automatically makes someone a hero. 
    If anyone thinks Trump is willing to die for this country,  they've lost their damn mind. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,653
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    Glorified KC said:
    brianlux said:
    shecky said:


    Oh MY GOD!  Our savior at last!
    :rofl:

    We can only be so lucky that God was there to save him from the bullet.

    I have often wished aliens would come and whisk him away to another planet, but in reality, the last thing we need is for Trump to become a martyr, so I'm glad he wasn't killed (and I don't like killing anyway).   It's ridiculous enough that somehow some people think that getting shot automatically makes someone a hero. 
    If anyone thinks Trump is willing to die for this country,  they've lost their damn mind. 

    Apparently, millions of people in this country have lost their damn minds.  That is what I find so incredulous about the whole thing!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    Biden
    brianlux said:
    Glorified KC said:
    brianlux said:
    shecky said:


    Oh MY GOD!  Our savior at last!
    :rofl:

    We can only be so lucky that God was there to save him from the bullet.

    I have often wished aliens would come and whisk him away to another planet, but in reality, the last thing we need is for Trump to become a martyr, so I'm glad he wasn't killed (and I don't like killing anyway).   It's ridiculous enough that somehow some people think that getting shot automatically makes someone a hero. 

    I think if he were assassinated it would cause violence from his base worse than what we saw on Jan 6th.  It is more tragic someone else was killed that day.
    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,653
    Biden
    Glorified KC said:
    brianlux said:
    Glorified KC said:
    brianlux said:
    shecky said:


    Oh MY GOD!  Our savior at last!
    :rofl:

    We can only be so lucky that God was there to save him from the bullet.

    I have often wished aliens would come and whisk him away to another planet, but in reality, the last thing we need is for Trump to become a martyr, so I'm glad he wasn't killed (and I don't like killing anyway).   It's ridiculous enough that somehow some people think that getting shot automatically makes someone a hero. 

    I think if he were assassinated it would cause violence from his base worse than what we saw on Jan 6th.  It is more tragic someone else was killed that day.
    So true and well said, G!
    CM189191 said:


    Sounds pretty good.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    Biden
    Well it sure is a lot of damn ads in PA - UGH. Almost spoils tonight's return of Phillies baseball.
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila,  PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,528
    edited July 2024
    Biden
    As an FYI, this whole idea that pollsters only call landlines is a bunch of malarky. I’ve gotten two calls this week on my cell from polling orgs. I didn’t participate since I was told they would need 15-20 minutes of my time. F that. 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    jerparker20 said:
    As an FYI, this whole idea that pollsters only call landlines is a bunch of malarky. I’ve gotten two calls this week on my cell from polling orgs. I didn’t participate since I was told they would need 15-20 minutes of my time. F that. 

    Yeah, it's not the landline problem anymore

    It's more the demographics of the people who think they have an opinion worth sharing.
    Small sample sizes.
    And terribly phrased survey questions. 

    Polls are designed to generate click-bait headlines now.  Not to gather any meaningful data.

    Aggregate polls were useful for a while (Nate Silver combining a bunch of polls together).
    But I feel that ship has sailed too.

    There's only one poll that matters now.  Election Day.  Or at least it used to matter....
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,528
    Biden
    CM189191 said:
    jerparker20 said:
    As an FYI, this whole idea that pollsters only call landlines is a bunch of malarky. I’ve gotten two calls this week on my cell from polling orgs. I didn’t participate since I was told they would need 15-20 minutes of my time. F that. 

    Yeah, it's not the landline problem anymore

    It's more the demographics of the people who think they have an opinion worth sharing.
    Old people and shut-ins who have no one to talk to. As I mentioned, most of these polls take 15-20 minutes. After spending the day talking to people at work, why would I want to talk to some rando polling person.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    jerparker20 said:
    CM189191 said:
    jerparker20 said:
    As an FYI, this whole idea that pollsters only call landlines is a bunch of malarky. I’ve gotten two calls this week on my cell from polling orgs. I didn’t participate since I was told they would need 15-20 minutes of my time. F that. 

    Yeah, it's not the landline problem anymore

    It's more the demographics of the people who think they have an opinion worth sharing.
    Old people and shut-ins who have no one to talk to. As I mentioned, most of these polls take 15-20 minutes. After spending the day talking to people at work, why would I want to talk to some rando polling person.
    My wife keeps asking me to change the air filters or finish painting upstairs. I wish one of these pollsters would call me.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,653
    Biden
    jerparker20 said:
    As an FYI, this whole idea that pollsters only call landlines is a bunch of malarky. I’ve gotten two calls this week on my cell from polling orgs. I didn’t participate since I was told they would need 15-20 minutes of my time. F that. 

    I guess I'm lucky and have gotten neither (and yes, I'm one of the 0.0000001% of Americans who still have a land line :lol:), but I get poll requests on my email and especially on FaceBook all the time.  I just ignore them.  But then, at this point in time, I ignore all polls related to the presidential race.  Why do we even have them now?  Like CM189191 said, they're just click bate. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    I'm sitting this one out
    Glorified KC said:
    brianlux said:
    Glorified KC said:
    brianlux said:
    shecky said:


    Oh MY GOD!  Our savior at last!
    :rofl:

    We can only be so lucky that God was there to save him from the bullet.

    I have often wished aliens would come and whisk him away to another planet, but in reality, the last thing we need is for Trump to become a martyr, so I'm glad he wasn't killed (and I don't like killing anyway).   It's ridiculous enough that somehow some people think that getting shot automatically makes someone a hero. 

    I think if he were assassinated it would cause violence from his base worse than what we saw on Jan 6th.  It is more tragic someone else was killed that day.
    Yeah of course. In this environment especially if a candidate was murdered it would be chaos.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,303
    Biden
    https://www.threads.net/@dream.foramerica/post/C9no9P7SRak/?xmt=AQGzaicGtYtZURLIdRew0b7PLwt0ZgUgnnSgAIRbe8rMkg
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,303
    Biden
    polls you say?

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,303
    Biden
    again with the polls....

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,651
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)




  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,539
    shecky said:
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)




    Wet dreams are better than soiled diapers and your boy walks around soiled all the time🤢
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,935
    Biden
    shecky said:
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)




    In 2016, Democrats were overconfident that Hillary Clinton would win because they thought Donald Trump was such a bad candidate while forgetting that Hillary was also extremely unpopular. How did that turn out for the Democrats?

    In 2024, Republicans are weirdly confident that Donald Trump will win* because they think Joe Biden is such a bad candidate while forgetting that Trump is still extremely unpopular. Trump has run for president twice and did not reach 47 percent of the vote either time. In the Real Clear Politics polling average right now, with all the tailwinds he's enjoying at the moment, his average vote percentage is 47.7. He is below 50 percent in ten of the twelve polls that make up that average. (In the 538.com polling average, Trump is at 43.5 percent.) These numbers are better than Biden's, to be sure, but this is not FDR you've nominated. This is a guy that a majority of the American public, and a majority of the American voting populace, really does not like.

    So you might want to slow your roll when you crow about crowd sizes, especially in light of the fact that Republicans said the same thing in 2020 about the relative sizes of the crowds at Trump and Biden rallies, and then Biden got seven million more votes than Trump.

    *In fairness, Democrats are also weirdly confident that Donald Trump will win, just as many Republicans (including Trump) mostly assumed that Hillary Clinton would win in 2016.


    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    shecky said:
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)






    neat, did they promise to make the trains run on time?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,539
    BF25394 said:
    shecky said:
    PRESIDENT TRUMP & JD VANCE'S RALLY IN MICHIGAN TODAY! 
    JoJo Biden couldn't pull a crowd like this even in a wet dream
    (and I suspect he has several "wet" dreams every day...)




    In 2016, Democrats were overconfident that Hillary Clinton would win because they thought Donald Trump was such a bad candidate while forgetting that Hillary was also extremely unpopular. How did that turn out for the Democrats?

    In 2024, Republicans are weirdly confident that Donald Trump will win* because they think Joe Biden is such a bad candidate while forgetting that Trump is still extremely unpopular. Trump has run for president twice and did not reach 47 percent of the vote either time. In the Real Clear Politics polling average right now, with all the tailwinds he's enjoying at the moment, his average vote percentage is 47.7. He is below 50 percent in ten of the twelve polls that make up that average. (In the 538.com polling average, Trump is at 43.5 percent.) These numbers are better than Biden's, to be sure, but this is not FDR you've nominated. This is a guy that a majority of the American public, and a majority of the American voting populace, really does not like.

    So you might want to slow your roll when you crow about crowd sizes, especially in light of the fact that Republicans said the same thing in 2020 about the relative sizes of the crowds at Trump and Biden rallies, and then Biden got seven million more votes than Trump.

    *In fairness, Democrats are also weirdly confident that Donald Trump will win, just as many Republicans (including Trump) mostly assumed that Hillary Clinton would win in 2016.


    All good points! 
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