Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

gimmesometruth27

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

nicknyr15 said:

PJ5a1 said:

This thread should be shut down - it really is a shame to see people not be able to co-exist because of what they believe in. It's even more discouraging to see people on here view followers of a party as inhumane. 

I hate to break it to those people - not a single party is right on all views.

I'm voting for Trump - which I know is more than frowned upon in this community. I do not agree with all of his views. However, views that are important to me is why I am voting for him and the candidates who are aligned with my most important values.

This does not make me a bad person. Same as a person who votes for Biden, it doesn't make them a bad person.

We all have at least one thing in common in this community and that is our love for Pearl Jam - if it does any good - listen to the 9/11/2022 speech from the MSG show prior to RVM.  Take good notes of that - a message for all regardless of the party you are for.

Take care...

The avatar made me think this was Gern and I was like wtf ….😳 

yeah...goddamn doppelganger

it was bizarro gern.

curmudgeoness

I'm a big Pete fan; I think he's the most gifted politician of our time. He's extraordinarily quick on his feet, unflappable, and is able to explain things in a clear, common-sense way that anyone can understand.

I have to say I've been very impressed by Josh Shapiro; I thought his remarks this weekend were exactly what they needed to be. I think he's a great option, too.

I don't know where to post it, but George Conway has a new superPAC which he has kickstarted with several hundred dollars of his own money:  https://www.psychopac.org/ 

The next few days should be very interesting. What did I see earlier? I think it was "I can't wait to return to precedented times." Me too.

brianlux

Biden

curmudgeoness said:

I'm a big Pete fan; I think he's the most gifted politician of our time. He's extraordinarily quick on his feet, unflappable, and is able to explain things in a clear, common-sense way that anyone can understand.

I have to say I've been very impressed by Josh Shapiro; I thought his remarks this weekend were exactly what they needed to be. I think he's a great option, too.

I don't know where to post it, but George Conway has a new superPAC which he has kickstarted with several hundred dollars of his own money:  https://www.psychopac.org/ 

The next few days should be very interesting. What did I see earlier? I think it was "I can't wait to return to precedented times." Me too.

Pete is certainly one of the best and I would have no problem voting for him.

I don't know much about Shapiro, but from what I do know, he seems like a very decent governor.

I also like Cory Booker a lot.  I wouldn't mind seeing him in the running some day.

And I have to say, I really wish there was a Republican I could honestly say I would like to see in the running.  But then, I actually wish we had a Republican party again instead of the MAGA party. 

jerparker20

Biden

brianlux said:

curmudgeoness said:

I'm a big Pete fan; I think he's the most gifted politician of our time. He's extraordinarily quick on his feet, unflappable, and is able to explain things in a clear, common-sense way that anyone can understand.

I have to say I've been very impressed by Josh Shapiro; I thought his remarks this weekend were exactly what they needed to be. I think he's a great option, too.

I don't know where to post it, but George Conway has a new superPAC which he has kickstarted with several hundred dollars of his own money:  https://www.psychopac.org/ 

The next few days should be very interesting. What did I see earlier? I think it was "I can't wait to return to precedented times." Me too.

Pete is certainly one of the best and I would have no problem voting for him.

I don't know much about Shapiro, but from what I do know, he seems like a very decent governor.

I also like Cory Booker a lot.  I wouldn't mind seeing him in the running some day.

And I have to say, I really wish there was a Republican I could honestly say I would like to see in the running.  But then, I actually wish we had a Republican party again instead of the MAGA party. 

Also seeing Andy Beshear’s (Gov of Kentucky) name being floated as a possible VP candidate. A twice elected D governor in a solid red state. I could get behind that.

brianlux

Biden

jerparker20 said:

brianlux said:

curmudgeoness said:

I'm a big Pete fan; I think he's the most gifted politician of our time. He's extraordinarily quick on his feet, unflappable, and is able to explain things in a clear, common-sense way that anyone can understand.

I have to say I've been very impressed by Josh Shapiro; I thought his remarks this weekend were exactly what they needed to be. I think he's a great option, too.

I don't know where to post it, but George Conway has a new superPAC which he has kickstarted with several hundred dollars of his own money:  https://www.psychopac.org/ 

The next few days should be very interesting. What did I see earlier? I think it was "I can't wait to return to precedented times." Me too.

Pete is certainly one of the best and I would have no problem voting for him.

I don't know much about Shapiro, but from what I do know, he seems like a very decent governor.

I also like Cory Booker a lot.  I wouldn't mind seeing him in the running some day.

And I have to say, I really wish there was a Republican I could honestly say I would like to see in the running.  But then, I actually wish we had a Republican party again instead of the MAGA party. 

Also seeing Andy Beshear’s (Gov of Kentucky) name being floated as a possible VP candidate. A twice elected D governor in a solid red state. I could get behind that.

I'm not familiar with Beshear.  Time for more reading up! 

shecky

shecky

Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., wrote on X Friday that “whistleblowers tell me that MOST of Trump’s security detail working the event last Saturday were not even Secret Service.  

“DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel,” he added, posting a letter he sent today to United States Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas.  

“Whistleblowers who have direct knowledge of the event have approached my office. According to the allegations, the July 13 rally was considered to be a ‘loose’ security event. For example, detection canines were not used to monitor entry and detect threats in the usual manner,” Hawley wrote. “Individuals without proper designations were able to gain access to backstage areas. Department personnel did not appropriately police the security buffer around the podium and were also not stationed at regular intervals around the event’s security perimeter.” 

“In addition, whistleblower allegations suggest the majority of DHS officials were not in fact USSS agents but instead drawn from the department’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI). This is especially concerning given that HSI agents were unfamiliar with standard protocols typically used at these types of events, according to the allegations,” Hawley also said. 

Hawley used the letter to ask Mayorkas to respond to multiple questions regarding security at the Trump campaign event. 

Posted by Greg Norman

pjl44

I'm sitting this one out

shecky said:

Posted by Greg Norman

The Shark?

The Juggler

Biden

Johnny Abruzzo

Biden

Trump's awful speech overshadowed by this software disaster. He's so f'ing lucky.

mickeyrat

Biden

https://www.threads.net/@cherijacobus1/post/C9lsY_EuXw7/?xmt=AQGzMo9Aoa95IwJUu_h3NStanXWV3z7fqg_3FNRz6RWNVQ

shecky

Gern Blansten

Biden

Now things are tight...

Johnny Abruzzo

Biden

Bless your heart New York Post. Obviously a pre-printed headline that has nothing to do with sleepy Donny's boring-ass speech.

Merkin Baller

The Juggler said:

It’s amazing how quickly they stopped caring about pedophiles. 

Depressing times indeed. 

mrussel1

Biden

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Bless your heart New York Post. Obviously a pre-printed headline that has nothing to do with sleepy Donny's boring-ass speech.

Same as the old Don...

brianlux

Biden

shecky said:

Oh MY GOD!  Our savior at last!

Glorified KC

Biden

shecky said:

Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., wrote on X Friday that “whistleblowers tell me that MOST of Trump’s security detail working the event last Saturday were not even Secret Service.  

“DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel,” he added, posting a letter he sent today to United States Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas.  

“Whistleblowers who have direct knowledge of the event have approached my office. According to the allegations, the July 13 rally was considered to be a ‘loose’ security event. For example, detection canines were not used to monitor entry and detect threats in the usual manner,” Hawley wrote. “Individuals without proper designations were able to gain access to backstage areas. Department personnel did not appropriately police the security buffer around the podium and were also not stationed at regular intervals around the event’s security perimeter.” 

“In addition, whistleblower allegations suggest the majority of DHS officials were not in fact USSS agents but instead drawn from the department’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI). This is especially concerning given that HSI agents were unfamiliar with standard protocols typically used at these types of events, according to the allegations,” Hawley also said. 

Hawley used the letter to ask Mayorkas to respond to multiple questions regarding security at the Trump campaign event. 

Posted by Greg Norman

Josh Hawley...right there's a senator with credibility.

Glorified KC

Biden

brianlux said:

shecky said:

Oh MY GOD!  Our savior at last!

We can only be so lucky that God was there to save him from the bullet.

brianlux

Biden

Glorified KC said:

brianlux said:

shecky said:

Oh MY GOD!  Our savior at last!

We can only be so lucky that God was there to save him from the bullet.

I have often wished aliens would come and whisk him away to another planet, but in reality, the last thing we need is for Trump to become a martyr, so I'm glad he wasn't killed (and I don't like killing anyway).   It's ridiculous enough that somehow some people think that getting shot automatically makes someone a hero.