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brianlux

Biden

Halifax2TheMax said:

brianlux said:

Well this is chicken shit.  Cancelled my subscription.

Gift article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/25/business/media/washington-post-presidential-endorsement.html?unlocked_article_code=1.U04.g_Bj.HYjuMtu4U3RG&smid=url-share

Washington Post Says It Will Stop Endorsing Presidential Candidates

Will Lewis, the company’s chief executive, said the paper was “returning to our roots” of not making endorsements for the office.

I’m very strongly considering it and most likely will. Fuck Bozos.

Apparently several WaPo employees feel the same way.  Regardless of whether or not newspaper should endorse, they at least should be consistent.  This was a major WaPo fail/

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/oct/25/washington-post-will-not-endorse-presidential-candidate

Furor over Washington Post’s decision to not endorse presidential candidate: ‘Stab in the back’, ‘dying in darkness’

Employees outraged at ‘chicken-shit’ move that breaks 30-year precedent, alleging Jeff Bezos quashed Harris support

There was uproar and outrage among the Washington Post’s current and former staffers and other notable figures in the world of American media after the newspaper’s leaders on Friday chose to not endorse any candidate in the US presidential election.

The newspaper’s publisher, Will Lewis, announced on Friday that for the first time in over 30 years, the paper’s editorial board would not be endorsing a candidate in this year’s presidential election, nor in future presidential elections.

After the news broke, reactions came flooding in, with people criticizing the decision, which, according to some staffers and reporters, was allegedly made by the Post’s owner, billionaire Jeff Bezos.

Karen Attiah, a columnist for the Washington Post who writes a weekly newsletter, called the decision an “absolute stab in the back”.

“What an insult to those of us who have literally put our careers and lives on the line, to call out threats to human rights and democracy,” she added.

In a statement, the union representing editorial staff and reporters at the Washington Post expressed that they were “deeply concerned” by the decision “especially a mere 11 days ahead of an immensely consequential election”.

“The role of an Editorial Board is to do just this: to share opinions on the news impacting our society and culture and endorse candidates to help guide readers,” the statement reads.

It also concerns that “management interfered with the work of our members in Editorial” they said, adding that according to the newspapers reporters and staffers, an endorsement for the vice-president, Kamala Harris, had already been drafted, and the decision to not publish was made by Bezos.

The union added that since the decision was announced, they are “already seeing cancellations from once loyal readers” and Semafor reported that in the 24 hours ending on Friday afternoon, about 2,000 subscribers had already canceled their subscriptions.

In a statement on X, Marty Baron, the former executive editor of the Washington Post, called the paper’s decision “cowardice, with democracy as its casualty”.

Donald Trump, Baron said, would “see this as an invitation to further intimidate the owner” of the Washington Post – Bezos. “Disturbing spinelessness at an institution famed for courage”, Baron added.

David Maraniss, a Pulitzer-winning reporter and editor at the Post, added: “The paper I’ve loved working at for 47 years is dying in darkness.”

Another former editor at the paper, Robert McCartney, said: “Given the choice this year, it’s appalling.”

Multiple outlets have also reported that Robert Kagan, the newspaper’s editor at large, has decided to resign from the editorial board following the announcement of the paper not to endorse in the presidential race.

Susan Rice, the former US ambassador to the United Nations and former domestic policy adviser for the Biden administration, called the decision “hypocritical”.

“So much for ‘Democracy Dies in Darkness’,” she said, referring to the newspaper’s official slogan, adopted in 2017 under Bezos’s ownership. “This is the most hypocritical, chicken-shit move from a publication that is supposed to hold people in power to account.”

On Friday afternoon, “Democracy Dies in Darkness” and “WaPo” were trending on X, and NPR’s media correspondent, David Folkenflik, was reporting that “the furor” at the Washington Post was so much that its chief tech officer was getting engineers to block questions from readers about its decision to not make an endorsement.

mickeyrat

Biden

mickeyrat

Biden

good point. he isnt making money off wapo. think wapo just tries to break even. amazon on the other hand...

https://www.threads.net/@theatlantic/post/DBmwwwaRSv9?xmt=AQGz5eFJTLAUoxrvdBnPXw3nG0faDiEgaxVaS_pqriVzWg

tbergs

Biden

What irritates me, is that in this blatant plutocracy we're seeing rise up, is that we the people are the ones who suffer the most. I have really respected and enjoyed WaPo's journalism over the years, especially after I got fed up with NYT. What we’re seeing though is billionaires pulling the strings and dictating what the American people can rely on. Musk bought and torpedoed Twitter and Bezos is seemingly doing the same to WaPo. We know that cancelations won't hurt his bottom line, but it could destroy the quality of journalism we have access to. I am one of the thousands who canceled my subscription, although I did so after careful consideration today because I want them to get past this moment, but I fear it's too late hearing that Bezos personally squashed this. I'm not sure how we get out of this cycle of billionaires ruling every aspect of our daily lives.

Why do so many people want a fake billionaire for president who has no interest in improving the day to day life of working class Americans? These farmers for Trump clearly are not paying attention to who this man is and how he will continue to exploit this country for his own gain.

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

tbergs said:

What irritates me, is that in this blatant plutocracy we're seeing rise up, is that we the people are the ones who suffer the most. I have really respected and enjoyed WaPo's journalism over the years, especially after I got fed up with NYT. What we’re seeing though is billionaires pulling the strings and dictating what the American people can rely on. Musk bought and torpedoed Twitter and Bezos is seemingly doing the same to WaPo. We know that cancelations won't hurt his bottom line, but it could destroy the quality of journalism we have access to. I am one of the thousands who canceled my subscription, although I did so after careful consideration today because I want them to get past this moment, but I fear it's too late hearing that Bezos personally squashed this. I'm not sure how we get out of this cycle of billionaires ruling every aspect of our daily lives.

Why do so many people want a fake billionaire for president who has no interest in improving the day to day life of working class Americans? These farmers for Trump clearly are not paying attention to who this man is and how he will continue to exploit this country for his own gain.

cult of personality. and not just on the right. it's just currently the most visible example. too many people on this planet think celebrities are somehow special. they love being part of something that includes someone they attach some fake attributes to. 

I don't think we'll ever be able to go back. It's too far gone. And not just the US; Canada to a lesser extent, look at the british and their obsession with the royals; most sane people know it's all fucking absurd. But too many are caught up in it. 

Even look at us, to a degree: many of us go apeshit if we meet someone in this band. And why? are they special in some way? not really. they are normal human beings. they have jobs that are creative in a different way than ours are. But we attribute something special to them because what they create is special to us, and therefor, it makes us feel part of that specialty. 

brianlux

Biden

You know what would be really interesting right about now?  After reading about Trump's Nazi rally It would be really interesting to see someone post on these boards that they still intend to vote for Trump.  That would be really... umm... interesting.

Merkin Baller

tbergs said:

Why do so many people want a fake billionaire for president who has no interest in improving the day to day life of working class Americans? These farmers for Trump clearly are not paying attention to who this man is and how he will continue to exploit this country for his own gain.

Because he hates all the right people. 

mickeyrat

Biden

ummmmm, crackhead shit right there.....

https://www.threads.net/@rawstorymedia/post/DBwTzWCJpI5?xmt=AQGz1bMPVVjHXAFdN3_CHDF5SjXEkvhXVyZa41YDbZ1sPQ

Gern Blansten

Biden

Lol... If he is resorting to loan sharks he's worse off than I thought 

brianlux

Biden

Well, shit, decisions decisions.  I'm one of these 250,000:

In response, readers voted with their wallets. As of this writing, more than 250,000 have canceled their subscriptions. While my initial reaction was to do the same, perhaps we all should pause for a moment and consider the consequences of a weakened Washington Post. There’s certainly a desire to hit ‘em where it hurts, but canceling subscriptions is less than lunch money for a man worth more than $200 billion. Instead, a subscriber exodus will hurt the hardworking reporters and staff at the paper, which just went through a round of layoffs and cutbacks.

To defund one of America’s last great journalistic institutions would do a disservice to its readers, and to our country. The Post reporters and editors are damn good at what they do. They are among America’s best, especially when it comes to fearless investigative reporting. We need a healthy, vibrant news business to keep check on the likes of Donald Trump, who would dearly love fewer reporters digging into his actions and exposing his lies.

-Dan Rather

Halifax2TheMax

brianlux said:

Well, shit, decisions decisions.  I'm one of these 250,000:

In response, readers voted with their wallets. As of this writing, more than 250,000 have canceled their subscriptions. While my initial reaction was to do the same, perhaps we all should pause for a moment and consider the consequences of a weakened Washington Post. There’s certainly a desire to hit ‘em where it hurts, but canceling subscriptions is less than lunch money for a man worth more than $200 billion. Instead, a subscriber exodus will hurt the hardworking reporters and staff at the paper, which just went through a round of layoffs and cutbacks.

To defund one of America’s last great journalistic institutions would do a disservice to its readers, and to our country. The Post reporters and editors are damn good at what they do. They are among America’s best, especially when it comes to fearless investigative reporting. We need a healthy, vibrant news business to keep check on the likes of Donald Trump, who would dearly love fewer reporters digging into his actions and exposing his lies.

-Dan Rather

Except the WaPo abdicated its responsibility upon hiring the British tabloid publisher and when their reporting normalized POOTWH. I’m not going back until Bozos sells to someone with balls.

brianlux

Biden

Halifax2TheMax said:

brianlux said:

Well, shit, decisions decisions.  I'm one of these 250,000:

In response, readers voted with their wallets. As of this writing, more than 250,000 have canceled their subscriptions. While my initial reaction was to do the same, perhaps we all should pause for a moment and consider the consequences of a weakened Washington Post. There’s certainly a desire to hit ‘em where it hurts, but canceling subscriptions is less than lunch money for a man worth more than $200 billion. Instead, a subscriber exodus will hurt the hardworking reporters and staff at the paper, which just went through a round of layoffs and cutbacks.

To defund one of America’s last great journalistic institutions would do a disservice to its readers, and to our country. The Post reporters and editors are damn good at what they do. They are among America’s best, especially when it comes to fearless investigative reporting. We need a healthy, vibrant news business to keep check on the likes of Donald Trump, who would dearly love fewer reporters digging into his actions and exposing his lies.

-Dan Rather

Except the WaPo abdicated its responsibility upon hiring the British tabloid publisher and when their reporting normalized POOTWH. I’m not going back until Bozos sells to someone with balls.

I'm still on the fence and I've got pickets up my butt. 

Sheeeeeee-it.

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

That take is so bad

brianlux

Biden

Stake man, not take, STAKE! 

brianlux

Biden

After watching this interview with Marty Baron, I will probably reinstate my WaPo subscription sometime next week. 

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/bezos-washington-post-endorsement-trump-harris-rcna177787

mickeyrat

Biden

https://www.threads.net/@axios/post/DBzCBPMJE85?xmt=AQGzbmp0i1ng1qWNC6SHX2Ll0S9f8wW67ZWbZGpBwE57wQ

josevolution

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

josevolution said:

Jill Stein?

josevolution

Spiritual_Chaos said:

josevolution said:

Jill Stein?

😂😂😂

darwinstheory

Biden

Spiritual_Chaos said:

josevolution said:

Jill Stein?

Nah, he turned heel and walked out of the voting center like Hollywood Hogan. MAGA shirt and all.