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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    Biden
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    So. No one has questions as to "how" the gunman was able to get up on that roof?
    or
    How there were eyewitnesses that saw the gunman go up there and told authorities about him?

    Incompetence at its finest!

    How easy is it to get at our leaders?  The world is watching....
    Strong argument for roof control.

    Unfortunately, our Constitution protects the right to climb ladders and provides unfettered access to roofs.
    ohgoddammit

    https://www.theonion.com/congress-bans-roofs-1851592883
    It's gotta be hard for The Onion to keep beyond reality. That's why they stopped making VEEP.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Biden
    FiveBelow said:
    I’m starting to think kennedy is probably better off without the secret service protection biden continues to deny him. 
    biden ordered a detail

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  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,332
    I'm sitting this one out
    mickeyrat said:
    FiveBelow said:
    I’m starting to think kennedy is probably better off without the secret service protection biden continues to deny him. 
    biden ordered a detail

    Sounds like the eleventh hour has struck again.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    I wonder why Mike Pence didn’t go to the RNC. 
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    Biden
    I wonder why Mike Pence didn’t go to the RNC. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSZca1Q9IWA
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
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    Biden
    I wonder why Mike Pence didn’t go to the RNC. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSZca1Q9IWA
    Wait, so Mike Pence's sister puts out?  Awesome.  

    Or...maybe she doesn't and that's why he didn't go.  There would be no saving him.  
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,652

    Trump would-be assassin climbed air conditioning unit to access shooting perch: report

    Motivations for the near-fatal shooting of former President Trump have not been disclosed

    Published July 17, 2024 10:02am EDT

    The Pennsylvania man who tried to assassinate former President Trump on Saturday accessed his roof firing perch by clambering up an air conditioning unit, according to a report.

    Thomas Crooks, 20, repeatedly discharged an AR rifle – believed to belong to his father – during a Saturday rally in Butler, striking Trump in the ear and killing a rally attendee, ABC News reported.

    Officials said the troubled loner purchased a ladder from a local Home Depot prior to the shooting but did not use it to scale the building, positioned roughly 150 yards from where Trump spoke.

    Instead, he used an air conditioning unit adjacent to the building as a foothold and climbed on top of the structure.

    Critics have questioned how Crooks was able to position himself so close to Trump despite the presence of local police and Secret Service agents.


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,000
    shecky said:

    Trump would-be assassin climbed air conditioning unit to access shooting perch: report

    Motivations for the near-fatal shooting of former President Trump have not been disclosed

    Published July 17, 2024 10:02am EDT

    The Pennsylvania man who tried to assassinate former President Trump on Saturday accessed his roof firing perch by clambering up an air conditioning unit, according to a report.

    Thomas Crooks, 20, repeatedly discharged an AR rifle – believed to belong to his father – during a Saturday rally in Butler, striking Trump in the ear and killing a rally attendee, ABC News reported.

    Officials said the troubled loner purchased a ladder from a local Home Depot prior to the shooting but did not use it to scale the building, positioned roughly 150 yards from where Trump spoke.

    Instead, he used an air conditioning unit adjacent to the building as a foothold and climbed on top of the structure.

    Critics have questioned how Crooks was able to position himself so close to Trump despite the presence of local police and Secret Service agents.


    Time to ban climbable air conditioning units. Along with gas stoves.
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  • josevolution
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    shecky said:

    Trump would-be assassin climbed air conditioning unit to access shooting perch: report

    Motivations for the near-fatal shooting of former President Trump have not been disclosed

    Published July 17, 2024 10:02am EDT

    The Pennsylvania man who tried to assassinate former President Trump on Saturday accessed his roof firing perch by clambering up an air conditioning unit, according to a report.

    Thomas Crooks, 20, repeatedly discharged an AR rifle – believed to belong to his father – during a Saturday rally in Butler, striking Trump in the ear and killing a rally attendee, ABC News reported.

    Officials said the troubled loner purchased a ladder from a local Home Depot prior to the shooting but did not use it to scale the building, positioned roughly 150 yards from where Trump spoke.

    Instead, he used an air conditioning unit adjacent to the building as a foothold and climbed on top of the structure.

    Critics have questioned how Crooks was able to position himself so close to Trump despite the presence of local police and Secret Service agents.


    Time to ban climbable air conditioning units. Along with gas stoves.
    And giant bandages for nicks ☝️
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Biden
    I pray to God that a baseball player doesn't slide into that bandage.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,541
    I pray to God that a baseball player doesn't slide into that bandage.
    If Pete Rose sees him he will try to steal it 😂
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    I pray to God that a baseball player doesn't slide into that bandage.
    If Pete Rose sees him he will try to steal it 😂
    No, Pete Rose will bet you that Ricky Henderson will steal it and then donate his winnings to the POOTWH campaign hoping for a pardon so he can be reinstated.
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  • shecky
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    Thomas Matthew Crooks’ parents were looking for him on Saturday in the hours leading up to the Trump rally shooting and eventually called law enforcement to indicate that he was missing and they were worried, Fox News has learned.  

    It’s unclear what his parents told authorities, but the call happened on Saturday before Crooks later opened fire at Trump during the rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. 

    The parents are being cooperative with authorities and the FBI is still trying to determine a motive for the attack, sources also told Fox News. 

    Fox News' David Spunt and Jake Gibson contributed to this report.

    Posted by Greg Norman
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,652

    65% of Democrats say Biden should drop out after debate disaster, poll finds

    Seven in 10 adults say Biden should drop out of the race, AP-NORC poll finds

    Published July 17, 2024 11:45am EDT | Updated July 17, 2024 12:25pm EDT

    new poll released on Wednesday found that 65% of Democrats say President Biden should drop out following his disastrous debate performance against former President Trump. 

    The AP-NORC survey – which was conducted July 11-15, mostly completed before the attempted assassination of Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania over the weekend – found that 7 in 10 adults, including 65% of Democrats, say Biden should withdraw and allow his party to select a different nominee.

    Overall, 57% of adults say Trump should withdraw from the race and allow his party to name a replacement. But Trump is maintaining support from his party, with 73% of Republicans saying he should stay in the race.

    Biden is facing more resistance from his party, with only 35% of Democrats saying he should continue his re-election campaign. 

    The survey found that more people view Biden as honest than those who feel the same way as Trump, but Trump is more likely to be seen as capable of winning in November and better able to handle a crisis, according to the Associated Press. 

    Black Democrats are among Biden’s strongest supporters. Half of Black Democrats say he should continue running, while only a third of White and Hispanic Democrats say the same.

    Younger Democrats are more likely to want Biden to withdraw from the race. Three-quarters of Democrats under the age of 45 want Biden to drop out, compared to 57% of those over the age of 45.

    Thirty-seven percent of Democrats are satisfied with Biden as their party’s nominee. Before last month’s debate, 42% were satisfied. Meanwhile, the number of Democrats who are dissatisfied has grown from 38% to 48%.

    In contrast, about 6 in 10 Republicans continue to be satisfied with Trump, while roughly a quarter are dissatisfied with him at the top of the Republican ticket.

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Biden
    shecky said:

    Thomas Matthew Crooks’ parents were looking for him on Saturday in the hours leading up to the Trump rally shooting and eventually called law enforcement to indicate that he was missing and they were worried, Fox News has learned.  

    It’s unclear what his parents told authorities, but the call happened on Saturday before Crooks later opened fire at Trump during the rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. 

    The parents are being cooperative with authorities and the FBI is still trying to determine a motive for the attack, sources also told Fox News. 

    Fox News' David Spunt and Jake Gibson contributed to this report.

    Posted by Greg Norman
    The details that emerge are always the most interesting. Parent's calling cops, the kid acting weird near the metal detectors, etc.

    I still can't understand how tRump was on that stage. You would think that the cop that made the first contact with the shooter would have been able to immediately alert everyone involved. The SS should have had him off that stage before any shots were taken.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    shecky said:

    65% of Democrats say Biden should drop out after debate disaster, poll finds

    Seven in 10 adults say Biden should drop out of the race, AP-NORC poll finds

    Published July 17, 2024 11:45am EDT | Updated July 17, 2024 12:25pm EDT

    new poll released on Wednesday found that 65% of Democrats say President Biden should drop out following his disastrous debate performance against former President Trump. 

    The AP-NORC survey – which was conducted July 11-15, mostly completed before the attempted assassination of Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania over the weekend – found that 7 in 10 adults, including 65% of Democrats, say Biden should withdraw and allow his party to select a different nominee.

    Overall, 57% of adults say Trump should withdraw from the race and allow his party to name a replacement. But Trump is maintaining support from his party, with 73% of Republicans saying he should stay in the race.

    Biden is facing more resistance from his party, with only 35% of Democrats saying he should continue his re-election campaign. 

    The survey found that more people view Biden as honest than those who feel the same way as Trump, but Trump is more likely to be seen as capable of winning in November and better able to handle a crisis, according to the Associated Press. 

    Black Democrats are among Biden’s strongest supporters. Half of Black Democrats say he should continue running, while only a third of White and Hispanic Democrats say the same.

    Younger Democrats are more likely to want Biden to withdraw from the race. Three-quarters of Democrats under the age of 45 want Biden to drop out, compared to 57% of those over the age of 45.

    Thirty-seven percent of Democrats are satisfied with Biden as their party’s nominee. Before last month’s debate, 42% were satisfied. Meanwhile, the number of Democrats who are dissatisfied has grown from 38% to 48%.

    In contrast, about 6 in 10 Republicans continue to be satisfied with Trump, while roughly a quarter are dissatisfied with him at the top of the Republican ticket.

    I'm more interested in hearing about the differences between male and female politicians, and what is acceptable.  Can you talk more about what you know about Kamala's sex life?  Like the far right wing, do you also call the team "Biden and the Ho"?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Adam Schiff matters.  It's a big deal.  
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    Biden
    shecky said:

    65% of Democrats say Biden should drop out after debate disaster, poll finds

    Seven in 10 adults say Biden should drop out of the race, AP-NORC poll finds

    Published July 17, 2024 11:45am EDT | Updated July 17, 2024 12:25pm EDT

    new poll released on Wednesday found that 65% of Democrats say President Biden should drop out following his disastrous debate performance against former President Trump. 

    The AP-NORC survey – which was conducted July 11-15, mostly completed before the attempted assassination of Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania over the weekend – found that 7 in 10 adults, including 65% of Democrats, say Biden should withdraw and allow his party to select a different nominee.

    Overall, 57% of adults say Trump should withdraw from the race and allow his party to name a replacement. But Trump is maintaining support from his party, with 73% of Republicans saying he should stay in the race.

    Biden is facing more resistance from his party, with only 35% of Democrats saying he should continue his re-election campaign. 

    The survey found that more people view Biden as honest than those who feel the same way as Trump, but Trump is more likely to be seen as capable of winning in November and better able to handle a crisis, according to the Associated Press. 

    Black Democrats are among Biden’s strongest supporters. Half of Black Democrats say he should continue running, while only a third of White and Hispanic Democrats say the same.

    Younger Democrats are more likely to want Biden to withdraw from the race. Three-quarters of Democrats under the age of 45 want Biden to drop out, compared to 57% of those over the age of 45.

    Thirty-seven percent of Democrats are satisfied with Biden as their party’s nominee. Before last month’s debate, 42% were satisfied. Meanwhile, the number of Democrats who are dissatisfied has grown from 38% to 48%.

    In contrast, about 6 in 10 Republicans continue to be satisfied with Trump, while roughly a quarter are dissatisfied with him at the top of the Republican ticket.


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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Biden

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,652