Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

Gern Blansten

Biden

EdsonNascimento said:

Lol.  Teamsters President on Trump's stage complimenting his running mate.  

Ha, ha, ha. ha.....  How bad does a Democrat have to be for that to happen for the first time ever?

As bad as tRump's former VP not supporting him? and his SecDef? and his SecState and multiple former Chiefs of Staff?

mrussel1

Biden

EdsonNascimento said:

Lol.  Teamsters President on Trump's stage complimenting his running mate.  

Ha, ha, ha. ha.....  How bad does a Democrat have to be for that to happen for the first time ever?

And white collar leaders and the professional class support Democrats now.  The political landscape has changed.  Funny that now you like unions and not the job creators.  

MayDay10

Biden

Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.

benjs

MayDay10 said:

Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.

Well, at least your boss's taxes will go down so they have more money to give you a raise, right? (Sarcasm)

OnWis97

Biden

MayDay10 said:

Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.

I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

MayDay10

Biden

OnWis97 said:

MayDay10 said:

Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.

I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

I dont get it.  If your combined income is less than $168K, which is most people I think...  you are going to see a pretty big increase in taxes, while people above $168K are going to get huge cuts.  

Why are people making less than $168K wearing red hats and travelling to these rallies like dead heads?  Also contributing money to this campaign?

Halifax2TheMax

Both sides.

Schumer, Murphy lead calls for Menendez to resign after guilty verdict

Murphy said that if Menendez refuses to step down, he will call on the Senate to vote to expel him.

gimmesometruth27

Biden

MayDay10 said:

OnWis97 said:

MayDay10 said:

Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.

I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

I dont get it.  If your combined income is less than $168K, which is most people I think...  you are going to see a pretty big increase in taxes, while people above $168K are going to get huge cuts.  

Why are people making less than $168K wearing red hats and travelling to these rallies like dead heads?  Also contributing money to this campaign?

because they are not very smart?

Gern Blansten

Biden

MayDay10 said:

OnWis97 said:

MayDay10 said:

Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.

I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

I dont get it.  If your combined income is less than $168K, which is most people I think...  you are going to see a pretty big increase in taxes, while people above $168K are going to get huge cuts.  

Why are people making less than $168K wearing red hats and travelling to these rallies like dead heads?  Also contributing money to this campaign?

slugs for salt...

Why do union members support the GOP? Makes no fucking sense.

The lower class has completely bought in to the "trickle down" bullshit that has been proven wrong for decades

OnWis97

Biden

MayDay10 said:

OnWis97 said:

MayDay10 said:

Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.

I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

I dont get it.  If your combined income is less than $168K, which is most people I think...  you are going to see a pretty big increase in taxes, while people above $168K are going to get huge cuts.  

Why are people making less than $168K wearing red hats and travelling to these rallies like dead heads?  Also contributing money to this campaign?

The three Gs. God, gays, and guns. 

The Juggler

Biden

Johnny Abruzzo said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

Updated 1105am

Yeah I mentioned this in another thread. 538's model accounts for other things outside of just polling. Trump pulled ahead last week and Biden has since retaken the advantage. 

I saw a lot of people saying that the failed assassination attempt was going to cement the win for tRump. I don't think so. He's still a piece of shit and Vance is just going to add to the smell.

it isn't going to seal trump's win. the only people supporting him are maga republicans and people that dislike dems. it is not like regular people are going to throw him a sympathy vote after everything he has said and done the last 9 years.

Now his supporters will super-duper vote for him.  You can't stop that momentum.  Word is, several of them will be putting flags on boats.  That's usually good for 5% improvement at the state level.  Unstoppable.  

Maga boaters with maga flags have their votes counted 100x, dontcha know? (joking)

I am very much sure that people who will end up voting for Joe Biden are telling pollsters that they won't to send a message, whether it be about Gaza or old age or something else. Now, the question is, why aren't they being listened to?

I was thinking about this silent voter phenomenon thing recently. There used to be silent Trump supporters 4 and 8 years ago. I wonder if the reverse might be true, to an extent, this time around...

MayDay10

Biden

The Juggler said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

Updated 1105am

Yeah I mentioned this in another thread. 538's model accounts for other things outside of just polling. Trump pulled ahead last week and Biden has since retaken the advantage. 

I saw a lot of people saying that the failed assassination attempt was going to cement the win for tRump. I don't think so. He's still a piece of shit and Vance is just going to add to the smell.

it isn't going to seal trump's win. the only people supporting him are maga republicans and people that dislike dems. it is not like regular people are going to throw him a sympathy vote after everything he has said and done the last 9 years.

Now his supporters will super-duper vote for him.  You can't stop that momentum.  Word is, several of them will be putting flags on boats.  That's usually good for 5% improvement at the state level.  Unstoppable.  

Maga boaters with maga flags have their votes counted 100x, dontcha know? (joking)

I am very much sure that people who will end up voting for Joe Biden are telling pollsters that they won't to send a message, whether it be about Gaza or old age or something else. Now, the question is, why aren't they being listened to?

I was thinking about this silent voter phenomenon thing recently. There used to be silent Trump supporters 4 and 8 years ago. I wonder if the reverse might be true, to an extent, this time around...

I believe this is definitely a thing.  Over the past 8 years, I have grown very reluctant to show my political preferences to anybody.  

It seems like people who like Trump increasingly flaunt it and seem very eager just to work Trump into daily conversation

Merkin Baller

MayDay10 said:

OnWis97 said:

MayDay10 said:

Well, as someone in the middle class...  my Federal taxes would go up around $5K per year under this Project 25 nonsense.

I'm at the point now where I'm almost looking forward to a few years down the road when people start having their "oh shit, what have we done?" moments. By then it'll be late so I'll probably just get smug.

I dont get it.  If your combined income is less than $168K, which is most people I think...  you are going to see a pretty big increase in taxes, while people above $168K are going to get huge cuts.  

Why are people making less than $168K wearing red hats and travelling to these rallies like dead heads?  Also contributing money to this campaign?

Because trump hates all the right people. It’s that simple. 

The Juggler

Biden

MayDay10 said:

The Juggler said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

Updated 1105am

Yeah I mentioned this in another thread. 538's model accounts for other things outside of just polling. Trump pulled ahead last week and Biden has since retaken the advantage. 

I saw a lot of people saying that the failed assassination attempt was going to cement the win for tRump. I don't think so. He's still a piece of shit and Vance is just going to add to the smell.

it isn't going to seal trump's win. the only people supporting him are maga republicans and people that dislike dems. it is not like regular people are going to throw him a sympathy vote after everything he has said and done the last 9 years.

Now his supporters will super-duper vote for him.  You can't stop that momentum.  Word is, several of them will be putting flags on boats.  That's usually good for 5% improvement at the state level.  Unstoppable.  

Maga boaters with maga flags have their votes counted 100x, dontcha know? (joking)

I am very much sure that people who will end up voting for Joe Biden are telling pollsters that they won't to send a message, whether it be about Gaza or old age or something else. Now, the question is, why aren't they being listened to?

I was thinking about this silent voter phenomenon thing recently. There used to be silent Trump supporters 4 and 8 years ago. I wonder if the reverse might be true, to an extent, this time around...

I believe this is definitely a thing.  Over the past 8 years, I have grown very reluctant to show my political preferences to anybody.  

It seems like people who like Trump increasingly flaunt it and seem very eager just to work Trump into daily conversation

Yeah me too. Purely anecdotal, obviously, but I would not be surprised if this is the case more broadly. 

gimmesometruth27

Biden

MayDay10 said:

The Juggler said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

Updated 1105am

Yeah I mentioned this in another thread. 538's model accounts for other things outside of just polling. Trump pulled ahead last week and Biden has since retaken the advantage. 

I saw a lot of people saying that the failed assassination attempt was going to cement the win for tRump. I don't think so. He's still a piece of shit and Vance is just going to add to the smell.

it isn't going to seal trump's win. the only people supporting him are maga republicans and people that dislike dems. it is not like regular people are going to throw him a sympathy vote after everything he has said and done the last 9 years.

Now his supporters will super-duper vote for him.  You can't stop that momentum.  Word is, several of them will be putting flags on boats.  That's usually good for 5% improvement at the state level.  Unstoppable.  

Maga boaters with maga flags have their votes counted 100x, dontcha know? (joking)

I am very much sure that people who will end up voting for Joe Biden are telling pollsters that they won't to send a message, whether it be about Gaza or old age or something else. Now, the question is, why aren't they being listened to?

I was thinking about this silent voter phenomenon thing recently. There used to be silent Trump supporters 4 and 8 years ago. I wonder if the reverse might be true, to an extent, this time around...

I believe this is definitely a thing.  Over the past 8 years, I have grown very reluctant to show my political preferences to anybody.  

It seems like people who like Trump increasingly flaunt it and seem very eager just to work Trump into daily conversation

because they are in a cult and are very proud of it. remember when w bush was in office? republicans back then never tried to work w into regular day to day conversation. maga does it all the time with trump.

Johnny Abruzzo

Biden

In 2020 the Trumpers were too busy out catching COVID to answer the phone for pollsters, and now NYT says they are eager to answer the phone and Democrats won't respond. Which says there is a lot of GOTV to do.

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

gimmesometruth27 said:

shecky said:

is he wearing a small my pillow on his ear?

FiveBelow

I'm sitting this one out

I’m starting to think kennedy is probably better off without the secret service protection biden continues to deny him. 

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

Kat said:

Two threads are now in timeout. Do not start new ones. Take some time to think and let any anger ease. President Biden calls for unity and that's an important thing for our country...not easy, but vital.  Talking about each other will result in bannings.

To balance up using Joe Bidens unique philosophy of "unity" in moderating messaging a tad,

here is the most blatant and dishonest dreck ever from this great uniter:

https://x.com/yashar/status/1813397250355421209 

Look here folks. What is the real reason he wants to stay four more years as President?

*Joe Biden-lowering my voice and whispering* It has nothing to do with unity

He sounds pretty sharp in the clip though. I give him that

CM189191

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So. No one has questions as to "how" the gunman was able to get up on that roof?
or
How there were eyewitnesses that saw the gunman go up there and told authorities about him?

Incompetence at its finest!

How easy is it to get at our leaders?  The world is watching....

Strong argument for roof control.

Unfortunately, our Constitution protects the right to climb ladders and provides unfettered access to roofs.

ohgoddammit

https://www.theonion.com/congress-bans-roofs-1851592883