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BidenThe Juggler said:mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:mickeyrat said:always question these fucking things.who was polled. what was asked. HOW was it asked.ummm I really dont recall basing my thoughts on the candidate and campaign based on polling after the rampant failures of same during 2016 . And if I was. welp this is where I am nowthe time since 18, 20, 22 have proved polls mean shit, have meant shit.I'm not fretting an election. Am in wait and see what happens and to be as informed from a variety of sources as I can be. About all of it. The cases, the election and whatever else.will have to find a way to live with whatever comes anyway, so really what is the motherfucking point in the first place? Wasted energy, no?Do what I can do and move through what comes the best I can. And hope for better than we have, are and seem to trending toward.so do go on about polls if it floats you, but do us a favor and offer the breakdown of the aforementioned questions as well, ok?
Polling was not far off at all in 2020 and 2016.
Look, I think Biden will ultimately win again too. However a lot of my belief in that was that at least one of these damn trials would actually take place. Now it seems very likely they will not, except for the weakest one in NY.
The other problem is, despite things objectively improving everywhere you look, people are not realizing it and/or are not giving Biden credit for it. This speaks to an issue the dems have had forever, which is messaging.
Then you have these dopes on the far left who seem to be willing to throw away our country's future over what's happening in Gaza.
This is a real problem. I just can't understand the confidence some of you guys have right now."This is a real problem. I just can't understand the confidence some of you guys have right now. "I'm having trouble keeping my confidence levels up. There are people here and elsewhere who are probably a lot more savvy about politics than I am who are confident Biden will win, but then when I read things in The Guardian and NY Times, that confidence is deflated. I find myself asking, Why do these left-leaning news outlets come across as very uncertain of Biden's being re-elected? I'd love to share the confidence that Biden will win, but I can't honestly say I feel all that certain. And the though of Trump winning literally horrifies me.And also, as I have told my wife a number of times, as much as I am hugely concerned that Trump could win, ultimately what is more concerning to me is that millions upon millions of Americans worship that maniac. Many millions! I find that massively disturbing.
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BidenHere ya go folks, a much more serene image to chase the horror images above from our minds:
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I know most here didn't like professor BS but I did. Yes I disagreed with him on most issues but at least he was serious and capable of formulating his own arguments. Trump people simply cannot do anything more that what we see here. Memes and bullshit.0 -
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BidenIs it any wonder why Trump loves "the poorly educated?"www.myspace.com0
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mrussel1 said:shecky said:
I know most here didn't like professor BS but I did. Yes I disagreed with him on most issues but at least he was serious and capable of formulating his own arguments. Trump people simply cannot do anything more that what we see here. Memes and bullshit.0 -
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BidenImagine feeling pride with a dude sexually assaulting a flag, the very one people think is sacred. I don't know...in a weird way the hypocrisy makes me giddy.0
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Bidenshecky said:cincybearcat said:hippiemom = goodness0
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BidenDo people really think that flag hug is an indication of some super-human level of patriotism?1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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OnWis97 said:Do people really think that flag hug is an indication of some super-human level of patriotism?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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