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The Juggler

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

I just spoke with my insurance guy....he asked me who I thought was going to win the election....wtf?

response?

I said..."oh Biden for sure...tRump is just trying to raise money and keep everyone fired up for the GA runoff"

He seemed a little surprised but then he asked if there were going to be any major tax changes which no one knows for sure.

People forget how tax changes work.  Whenever a democrat gets elected they automatically think rates double on Jan 1

This is upsetting. I wish you would've said "What do you mean? Biden has already won."

I just dealt with a client in New Jersey. I had to ask him how long he was staying in his house and he goes "No plans on moving unless we elect another communist like Murphy next time around. Then I'm out." Wasn't even joking. 

OnWis97

Biden

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Bentleyspop said:

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch. 

Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones.  Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this.  If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit!  These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering.  I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is.  To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.

It's actually surprising how many people that have advanced degrees in something generally respected as something for "smart" people* are really one-trick ponies. For example, Ben Carson is a brain surgeon.  But he's no "brain surgeon." You have to respect his ability to get through med school but I don't generally respect his as a well-rounded intelligent person.  I think a random "smart" person is just as likely to be drawn in by nonsense they want to believe as a random "average" person.

*Engineering, medicine, etc. And to be fair, these are challenging and do take a certain amount of intelligence to achieve and I probably could not have.  But one's breadth of intelligence can be very narrow.  I had two friends in college who were electrical engineering majors, both essentially straight-A students, and both now kicking ass professionally, I think. One is without question one of the five smartest people I know and is well-rounded with knowledge and interests. He could have literally been anything you can be via higher education. The other had amazing knowledge gaps and would not have been able to do things not math-based with a rigid answer (e.g., law). Is he smart? Sure. But, not in the same way the first guy is. I think he'd be much more likely than the first guy to be suckered in by some nonsensical propaganda (I'm not in touch with him).

mrussel1

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Bentleyspop said:

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch. 

Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones.  Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this.  If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit!  These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering.  I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is.  To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.

yeah...it's frightening.   And how do we reverse it?  Is that even possible?

My wife has an old high school friend that kept sending her shit through FB messenger.  Wife told her to stop because it was just insane bullshit (hunter biden shit before election, giuliani shit after).  Her friend is super nice but just fucking stupid as hell.  She actually tried to convince my wife to watch a youtube video she sent that described by the Biden admin was going to turn the USA into a socialist country.

I don't see a way out of this.

I've had more than one person tell me that I can't trust the media.... and now watch this You Tube video.   They don't see the hypocrisy or irony 

mcgruff10

Biden

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

I just spoke with my insurance guy....he asked me who I thought was going to win the election....wtf?

response?

I said..."oh Biden for sure...tRump is just trying to raise money and keep everyone fired up for the GA runoff"

He seemed a little surprised but then he asked if there were going to be any major tax changes which no one knows for sure.

People forget how tax changes work.  Whenever a democrat gets elected they automatically think rates double on Jan 1

This is upsetting. I wish you would've said "What do you mean? Biden has already won."

I just dealt with a client in New Jersey. I had to ask him how long he was staying in his house and he goes "No plans on moving unless we elect another communist like Murphy next time around. Then I'm out." Wasn't even joking. 

Murphy is the worst; I absolutely hate that guy.  

OnWis97

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Bentleyspop said:

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch. 

Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones.  Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this.  If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit!  These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering.  I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is.  To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.

yeah...it's frightening.   And how do we reverse it?  Is that even possible?

My wife has an old high school friend that kept sending her shit through FB messenger.  Wife told her to stop because it was just insane bullshit (hunter biden shit before election, giuliani shit after).  Her friend is super nice but just fucking stupid as hell.  She actually tried to convince my wife to watch a youtube video she sent that described by the Biden admin was going to turn the USA into a socialist country.

I don't see a way out of this.

As the internet came about, it was obvious that there's just way more information than there ever used to be.  But right behind that we came to realize that there's just way more disinformation. And that certainly isn't going away. How do you get millions of gullible people to not believe dishonesty that they really want to believe when that dishonesty is going to persist and probably grow in ways we haven't even thought of yet?  Hell, it seems like yesterday that Fox News was the key creator of this. Now, they're kinda minor league by comparison.

So in short, neither do I.

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Bentleyspop said:

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch. 

Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones.  Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this.  If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit!  These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering.  I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is.  To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.

i would almost put intelligence, or more specifically, the ability to get good grades in any given profession, and the ability to think critically, in two different pots. 

i know a lot of people that were intensely good at school and their job, but applying that to societal or social situations.....doorknobs. 

static111

Biden

HughFreakingDillon said:

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Bentleyspop said:

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch. 

Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones.  Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this.  If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit!  These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering.  I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is.  To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.

i would almost put intelligence, or more specifically, the ability to get good grades in any given profession, and the ability to think critically, in two different pots. 

i know a lot of people that were intensely good at school and their job, but applying that to societal or social situations.....doorknobs. 

“The reason I know it wasn’t a clean election is because I’m an engineer and I look at the numbers and the numbers don’t lie”.  Actually said to me this week.  It was a walk away moment.

static111

Biden

Since this is where the smart people post and I want the Nate Bronze thread to die 538 slow deaths, I’d like to pose a question.

Are there any Vegas/betting odds on if Trump can pull off his coup/turn over election results?

Kat

Biden

63 days to go.

https://twitter.com/C_C_Krebs/status/1328953421882413056

brianlux

Biden

Bentleyspop said:

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

Funny meme, just substitute "fewer" for "less".  

Fewer means “not as many.” We use fewer with countable nouns like cookies. ... Less means “not as much.” We use less with uncountable nouns like milk.

Gern Blansten

Biden

OnWis97 said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Bentleyspop said:

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch. 

Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones.  Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this.  If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit!  These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering.  I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is.  To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.

yeah...it's frightening.   And how do we reverse it?  Is that even possible?

My wife has an old high school friend that kept sending her shit through FB messenger.  Wife told her to stop because it was just insane bullshit (hunter biden shit before election, giuliani shit after).  Her friend is super nice but just fucking stupid as hell.  She actually tried to convince my wife to watch a youtube video she sent that described by the Biden admin was going to turn the USA into a socialist country.

I don't see a way out of this.

As the internet came about, it was obvious that there's just way more information than there ever used to be.  But right behind that we came to realize that there's just way more disinformation. And that certainly isn't going away. How do you get millions of gullible people to not believe dishonesty that they really want to believe when that dishonesty is going to persist and probably grow in ways we haven't even thought of yet?  Hell, it seems like yesterday that Fox News was the key creator of this. Now, they're kinda minor league by comparison.

So in short, neither do I.

Honestly I think we need to put boundaries on the first amendment.  Just like yelling fire in a theater is wrong you shouldn't be able to publish false information on youtube, FB, twitter, etc.  I realize that there are some limits on this now but there needs to be much more.

The sad part is that the disinformation is mostly one sided.  When people are corrected it tends to be the right wing view which causes them to blow their tops.  

Reminds me of Politifact.  They stay busy refuting BS that the right puts out and they feel like they have to throw a liberal correction in there to be fair.  Most of the liberal corrections are so minor it's pathetic.

Gern Blansten

Biden

Gern Blansten

Biden

Still grifting....

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

it will NEVER be normal to me that this is official correspondence coming from the man who holds the office of the president of the united states of america. unreal. 

static111

Biden

Is anyone worried he is pulling troops from the Middle East because he thinks they may be more helpful and sympathetic to his cause here in the states?

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

static111 said:

Is anyone worried he is pulling troops from the Middle East because he thinks they may be more helpful and sympathetic to his cause here in the states?

no, he's fucking biden over. when al queda rises again and there is an attack on one of our allies, or god forbid, domestic, republican voters will blame biden, not trump, because of the calendar, not who pulled them out creating the vacuum. 

tbergs

Biden

If this was 1800 I think Trump would have been tried for treason and executed already, but here we are suffering along with this inept pile of dog shit dragging the country and world down with him.

static111

Biden

HughFreakingDillon said:

static111 said:

Is anyone worried he is pulling troops from the Middle East because he thinks they may be more helpful and sympathetic to his cause here in the states?

no, he's fucking biden over. when al queda rises again and there is an attack on one of our allies, or god forbid, domestic, republican voters will blame biden, not trump, because of the calendar, not who pulled them out creating the vacuum. 

tbergs said:

If this was 1800 I think Trump would have been tried for treason and executed already, but here we are suffering along with this inept pile of dog shit dragging the country and world down with him.

Why is this being allowed to continue, it’s completely insane?

Gern Blansten

Biden

HughFreakingDillon said:

static111 said:

Is anyone worried he is pulling troops from the Middle East because he thinks they may be more helpful and sympathetic to his cause here in the states?

no, he's fucking biden over. when al queda rises again and there is an attack on one of our allies, or god forbid, domestic, republican voters will blame biden, not trump, because of the calendar, not who pulled them out creating the vacuum. 

That or he is trying to keep a campaign promise....or both....either way it's fucked up and wrong

brianlux

Biden

HughFreakingDillon said:

static111 said:

Is anyone worried he is pulling troops from the Middle East because he thinks they may be more helpful and sympathetic to his cause here in the states?

no, he's fucking biden over. when al queda rises again and there is an attack on one of our allies, or god forbid, domestic, republican voters will blame biden, not trump, because of the calendar, not who pulled them out creating the vacuum. 

Yeah, this.  I think you hit it right on.