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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Biden
    Smellyman said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:


    I think this is smart of Biden. I know the people that are obsessed with Trump don't want to hear it, but I think the best course of action with Trump is to let him fade into obscurity. Eventually he'll be the proverbial "old man yelling at clouds." Actually, he sort of already is. 
    I agree.  Right now he is still getting attention because he is President and he is acting in a dangerous and unprecedented manner.  He is still very ineffective and the old man yelling at clouds thing I believe is likely true with a large majority of Americans.

    Once he loses that title of POTUS, he is going to be even more obscure.  My guess is he is going to try to compensate and say even more outrageous things in order to call attention to himself, which will probably hurt his 'movement' more than help.

    for a while it will be non stop rallies and ramblings of a madman
    I am wondering if he can/will have the rallies.  

    He will no longer have our tax dollars fueling Air Force One as his personal taxi service.  They also cost a lot of money to hold, and he will not be backed by overt Republican fundraising.  Will he want to just pour money into his own rallies with little ROI other than ego?  
    Maybe they will charge admission?  And if they do, will enough people show up and open their wallets?
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    MayDay10 said:
    Smellyman said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:


    I think this is smart of Biden. I know the people that are obsessed with Trump don't want to hear it, but I think the best course of action with Trump is to let him fade into obscurity. Eventually he'll be the proverbial "old man yelling at clouds." Actually, he sort of already is. 
    I agree.  Right now he is still getting attention because he is President and he is acting in a dangerous and unprecedented manner.  He is still very ineffective and the old man yelling at clouds thing I believe is likely true with a large majority of Americans.

    Once he loses that title of POTUS, he is going to be even more obscure.  My guess is he is going to try to compensate and say even more outrageous things in order to call attention to himself, which will probably hurt his 'movement' more than help.

    for a while it will be non stop rallies and ramblings of a madman
    I am wondering if he can/will have the rallies.  

    He will no longer have our tax dollars fueling Air Force One as his personal taxi service.  They also cost a lot of money to hold, and he will not be backed by overt Republican fundraising.  Will he want to just pour money into his own rallies with little ROI other than ego?  
    Maybe they will charge admission?  And if they do, will enough people show up and open their wallets?

    It will be interesting, but his base idiocy knows no bounds.  He could probably get people in at 100 a pop and all he needs is a mic and a podium.  he can make a bunch.  Not sure how long his base could stomach it in the long run.

    Not sure about Secret Service either or how that works.  They could put a stop to it too I imagine.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,566
    Biden
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    President-elect Biden wary of Trump-focused investigations, sources say

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/president-elect-biden-wary-of-trump-focused-investigations-sources-say/ar-BB1b5zo0?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

    "Biden has raised concerns that investigations would further divide a country he is trying to unite and risk making every day of his presidency about Trump, said the sources, who spoke on background to offer details of private conversations. They said he has specifically told advisers that he is wary of federal tax investigations of Trump or of challenging any orders Trump may issue granting immunity to members of his staff before he leaves office. One adviser said Biden has made it clear that he "just wants to move on."

    I think this is smart of Biden. I know the people that are obsessed with Trump don't want to hear it, but I think the best course of action with Trump is to let him fade into obscurity. Eventually he'll be the proverbial "old man yelling at clouds." Actually, he sort of already is. 
    I think it's smart of biden to SAY THIS, knowing full well he won't be the one initiating any investigation. this can give him deniability that he's going after trump, so trumpsters can whine all they want about a biden witch hunt, but it won't hold any water. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Huge mistake to let Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat off the hook if he’s committed federal offenses before, during or after he leaves office. Huge mistake on so many levels and if we’ve learned anything from Obama “just wanting to move on,” is that the lack of investigation, reporting out and making changes only emboldens those in power, if they so choose to abuse it. And does anyone really expect that the repubs won’t investigate and go after dems for real or imagined transgressions? Where have you been for 12 years? Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat needs, at the very least, to pay his taxes. Otherwise, why should any of us?
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,613
    Biden
    Biden should do what he can to distance himself from it both publicly and at the office. Appoint an AG that wants to get to the truth and let that person and the DOJ do the work.

    What he's saying now might be smart, but I do believe letting things go unpunished is wrong in the long run. So "letting go of the past" would be a terrible trait in the next AG.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,566
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Huge mistake to let Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat off the hook if he’s committed federal offenses before, during or after he leaves office. Huge mistake on so many levels and if we’ve learned anything from Obama “just wanting to move on,” is that the lack of investigation, reporting out and making changes only emboldens those in power, if they so choose to abuse it. And does anyone really expect that the repubs won’t investigate and go after dems for real or imagined transgressions? Where have you been for 12 years? Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat needs, at the very least, to pay his taxes. Otherwise, why should any of us?
    he already stated publicly that he won't stand in the way of any investigation. i believe/hope that's still the case. all this means is he's not going to send the dogs out after him. he's just going to let the dogs out of the cage and do their thing. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,227
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Huge mistake to let Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat off the hook if he’s committed federal offenses before, during or after he leaves office. Huge mistake on so many levels and if we’ve learned anything from Obama “just wanting to move on,” is that the lack of investigation, reporting out and making changes only emboldens those in power, if they so choose to abuse it. And does anyone really expect that the repubs won’t investigate and go after dems for real or imagined transgressions? Where have you been for 12 years? Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat needs, at the very least, to pay his taxes. Otherwise, why should any of us?
    he already stated publicly that he won't stand in the way of any investigation. i believe/hope that's still the case. all this means is he's not going to send the dogs out after him. he's just going to let the dogs out of the cage and do their thing. 
    as he should. he should not put his thumb on the scale of justice, but let the agencies in charge of seeking justice do their thing unabated.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Huge mistake to let Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat off the hook if he’s committed federal offenses before, during or after he leaves office. Huge mistake on so many levels and if we’ve learned anything from Obama “just wanting to move on,” is that the lack of investigation, reporting out and making changes only emboldens those in power, if they so choose to abuse it. And does anyone really expect that the repubs won’t investigate and go after dems for real or imagined transgressions? Where have you been for 12 years? Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat needs, at the very least, to pay his taxes. Otherwise, why should any of us?
    he already stated publicly that he won't stand in the way of any investigation. i believe/hope that's still the case. all this means is he's not going to send the dogs out after him. he's just going to let the dogs out of the cage and do their thing. 
    Yeah that's probably the case. I think Biden's point is he's not going to be talking about Trump or publicly calling for investigations when he's president. If an agency goes after Trump for something, and the media asks Biden about it, he probably just won't comment on it.  
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Biden
    i agree. he'll be a normal president, in other words. LOL
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,227
    Biden
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Huge mistake to let Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat off the hook if he’s committed federal offenses before, during or after he leaves office. Huge mistake on so many levels and if we’ve learned anything from Obama “just wanting to move on,” is that the lack of investigation, reporting out and making changes only emboldens those in power, if they so choose to abuse it. And does anyone really expect that the repubs won’t investigate and go after dems for real or imagined transgressions? Where have you been for 12 years? Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat needs, at the very least, to pay his taxes. Otherwise, why should any of us?
    he already stated publicly that he won't stand in the way of any investigation. i believe/hope that's still the case. all this means is he's not going to send the dogs out after him. he's just going to let the dogs out of the cage and do their thing. 
    Yeah that's probably the case. I think Biden's point is he's not going to be talking about Trump or publicly calling for investigations when he's president. If an agency goes after Trump for something, and the media asks Biden about it, he probably just won't comment on it.  
    awww, can't we do "lock him up" chants just one time?
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  • The Juggler
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    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:


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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,613
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So did the White House Dog, Lindsey Graham, tell the GA Secretary of State to toss legit ballots?


    What does Trump have on you, Lindsey?

    I often wonder about that same question.
    He went after Trump the hardest in the 2016 primary, and then when he turned lap dog he's never looked back.   He debases himself worse than anyone else for Trump and I just wonder what's in his closet that Trump is holding the keys to...
    I think we all know what.. or who.. is in the closet that turned him into the lap dog. 

    I don't know. Lindsey's starting to behave like someone that doesn't want to see a new AG.
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  • mrussel1
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    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So did the White House Dog, Lindsey Graham, tell the GA Secretary of State to toss legit ballots?


    What does Trump have on you, Lindsey?

    I often wonder about that same question.
    He went after Trump the hardest in the 2016 primary, and then when he turned lap dog he's never looked back.   He debases himself worse than anyone else for Trump and I just wonder what's in his closet that Trump is holding the keys to...
    I think we all know what.. or who.. is in the closet that turned him into the lap dog. 

    I don't know. Lindsey's starting to behave like someone that doesn't want to see a new AG.
    I think being a gay senator in SC is worse than a felony. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    The Juggler said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    murikkka
    holy mackerel 
    She's Cuban.  I find that interesting.  The socialist mark really sticks in that community. 
  • brianlux
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    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So did the White House Dog, Lindsey Graham, tell the GA Secretary of State to toss legit ballots?


    What does Trump have on you, Lindsey?

    I often wonder about that same question.
    He went after Trump the hardest in the 2016 primary, and then when he turned lap dog he's never looked back.   He debases himself worse than anyone else for Trump and I just wonder what's in his closet that Trump is holding the keys to...
    I think we all know what.. or who.. is in the closet that turned him into the lap dog. 

    I don't know. Lindsey's starting to behave like someone that doesn't want to see a new AG.
    I think being a gay senator in SC is worse than a felony. 

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,274
    Biden
    Really weird shit....Graham said he also called the AZ Sec of State but she says she hasn't talked to him.

    Plus..GA Sec of State had two staffers witness the call.


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  • mrussel1
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    Biden
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So did the White House Dog, Lindsey Graham, tell the GA Secretary of State to toss legit ballots?


    What does Trump have on you, Lindsey?

    I often wonder about that same question.
    He went after Trump the hardest in the 2016 primary, and then when he turned lap dog he's never looked back.   He debases himself worse than anyone else for Trump and I just wonder what's in his closet that Trump is holding the keys to...
    I think we all know what.. or who.. is in the closet that turned him into the lap dog. 

    I don't know. Lindsey's starting to behave like someone that doesn't want to see a new AG.
    I think being a gay senator in SC is worse than a felony. 

    I didn't know you are homophobic, M!  
    Haha, sorry, I know what you meant.
    I did word that poorly....
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    If anyone is interested in hearing Rudy's oral arguments in court today.. you can call inot the conference line!  I would absolutely do it but I have a meeting right at 130.  I'm sure it will be a hoot. 

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,566
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    murikkka
    holy mackerel 
    She's Cuban.  I find that interesting.  The socialist mark really sticks in that community. 
    I think that's why the so called "brown vote" in florida should surprise nobody. They don't give a fuck if trump is a racist, they are terrified of the brutality of communism, which they equate with socialism, which trump fooled them into believing biden is. 
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  • The Juggler
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    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    murikkka
    holy mackerel 
    She's Cuban.  I find that interesting.  The socialist mark really sticks in that community. 
    I think that's why the so called "brown vote" in florida should surprise nobody. They don't give a fuck if trump is a racist, they are terrified of the brutality of communism, which they equate with socialism, which trump fooled them into believing biden is. 
    But if she's Cuban, how the fuck can she not know what a socialist actually is though?
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