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mickeyrat

Biden

small petty petty manbaby...

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/17/trump-ousts-homeland-security-chris-krebs-called-election-secure/6276676002/

Trump ousts Homeland Security cyber chief Chris Krebs, who called election secure

Kevin Johnson

USA TODAY

The Department of Homeland Security's cyber chief, who presided over an elaborate election security effort guarding against foreign interference and fraud, was ousted by President Donald Trump on Tuesday as part of a continuing post-election purge of top national security officials.

Trump announced the dismissal in a tweet Tuesday night.

The dismissal of Christopher Krebs, director of DHS's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, follows the agency's declaration that the general election was the most secure in U.S. history.

The statement served as a pointed rebuke to a president who continues to make unsubstantiated allegations of voting fraud while Trump's legal team pursues multiple legal challenges in battleground states.

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"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised," the agency reported Thursday in an assessment joined by a coalition of election security groups, including the National Association of State Election Directors. "All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors." 

Krebs had been an outspoken defender of the nation's election security apparatus in the months leading up to Election Day, even as Trump repeatedly warned of massive fraud that never materialized.

Krebs was expecting to be fired as recently as last week, sources told POLITICO.

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Trump's unsupported allegations gave life to conspiracy theories that Krebs' agency sought to knock down by publicly calling out false claims on its website.

Earlier this week, as states were engaged in critical canvassing efforts, CISA seized on "rumor" that election results could be changed by a single "bad actor."

"Robust safeguards, including canvassing and auditing procedures, help ensure the accuracy of official election results," the agency stated.

Before his appointment as the first director of CISA, Krebs served as the DHS' assistant secretary for Infrastructure Protection.

Afterward, Krebs moved to Microsoft focussing on the company's cybersecurity and technology policy.

Krebs joined DHS in March 2017, first serving as a senior adviser on cybersecurity and infrastructure protection.

In his role as CISA director, Krebs was tasked with safeguarding national cyber networks along with maintaining the country's essential operations in the face of increasing attempts by foreign adversaries to disrupt the government. The nation's vulnerability was made clear in 2016 when Russia sought to undermine the general election.

Merkin Baller

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-fires-head-of-dhs-election-security-agency

mrussel1

Biden

HughFreakingDillon said:

how does anyone know he's actually gay and not just someone who decided to dedicate his life to politics?

Well we don't actually KNOW... but he certainly shows some signs. And his move to Trump was awfully strange.  

mickeyrat

Biden

strap in boys and girls......

GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground
By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-challenges/2020/11/17/ea741372-28f6-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html

PJNB

mickeyrat said:

strap in boys and girls......

GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground
By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-challenges/2020/11/17/ea741372-28f6-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html

Just voted 4-0 to certify it.  Pretty sure it had something to do with this video that was taken during the call. 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1328856173513150464

mickeyrat

Biden

PJNB said:

mickeyrat said:

strap in boys and girls......

GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground
By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-challenges/2020/11/17/ea741372-28f6-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html

Just voted 4-0 to certify it.  Pretty sure it had something to do with this video that was taken during the call. 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1328856173513150464

well, ok then...

PJNB

mickeyrat said:

PJNB said:

mickeyrat said:

strap in boys and girls......

GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground
By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-challenges/2020/11/17/ea741372-28f6-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html

Just voted 4-0 to certify it.  Pretty sure it had something to do with this video that was taken during the call. 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1328856173513150464

well, ok then...

Someone should tell Trump that it went through. He is still gloating on Twitter. 

mickeyrat

Biden

PJNB said:

mickeyrat said:

PJNB said:

mickeyrat said:

strap in boys and girls......

GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground
By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-challenges/2020/11/17/ea741372-28f6-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html

Just voted 4-0 to certify it.  Pretty sure it had something to do with this video that was taken during the call. 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1328856173513150464

well, ok then...

Someone should tell Trump that it went through. He is still gloating on Twitter. 

moved on to Ga but this is great.....

https://twitter.com/BanksPatriot/status/1328887773575700482?s=19

Gern Blansten

Biden

PJNB said:

mickeyrat said:

PJNB said:

mickeyrat said:

strap in boys and girls......

GOP officials in key Michigan county decline to certify ballot count, upending vote process as Trump scrambles to regain ground
By Elise Viebeck, Kayla Ruble, Josh Dawsey and Jon Swaine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-challenges/2020/11/17/ea741372-28f6-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html

Just voted 4-0 to certify it.  Pretty sure it had something to do with this video that was taken during the call. 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1328856173513150464

well, ok then...

Someone should tell Trump that it went through. He is still gloating on Twitter. 

Yeah as soon as the racist social media posts of the people holding it up started being exposed they caved pretty quick.

Merkin Baller

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1329044288664113153?s=21

Our country’s fucked. 

Bentleyspop

Biden

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

Bentleyspop said:

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch. 

Gern Blansten

Biden

I just spoke with my insurance guy....he asked me who I thought was going to win the election....wtf?

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

I just spoke with my insurance guy....he asked me who I thought was going to win the election....wtf?

WTF

F Me In The Brain

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

I just spoke with my insurance guy....he asked me who I thought was going to win the election....wtf?

Get a different guy?

mickeyrat

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

I just spoke with my insurance guy....he asked me who I thought was going to win the election....wtf?

response?

Gern Blansten

Biden

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

I just spoke with my insurance guy....he asked me who I thought was going to win the election....wtf?

response?

I said..."oh Biden for sure...tRump is just trying to raise money and keep everyone fired up for the GA runoff"

He seemed a little surprised but then he asked if there were going to be any major tax changes which no one knows for sure.

People forget how tax changes work.  Whenever a democrat gets elected they automatically think rates double on Jan 1

mrussel1

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

I just spoke with my insurance guy....he asked me who I thought was going to win the election....wtf?

response?

I said..."oh Biden for sure...tRump is just trying to raise money and keep everyone fired up for the GA runoff"

He seemed a little surprised but then he asked if there were going to be any major tax changes which no one knows for sure.

People forget how tax changes work.  Whenever a democrat gets elected they automatically think rates double on Jan 1

Ha!  Well that's becuase the guy who didn't get anything done in 47 years will somehow get something huge done with a senate minority week one.  

static111

Biden

HughFreakingDillon said:

Bentleyspop said:

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch. 

Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones.  Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this.  If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit!  These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering.  I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is.  To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.

Gern Blansten

Biden

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Bentleyspop said:

  

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1329047591078797317?s=19

saw the video of that last night. obviously the choose the dumbest ones for the videos, but still, it really highlights how easily people are duped all the while claiming they are the brightest in the bunch. 

Just bringing up that it’s not just the dumbest ones.  Two engineers that I know of at the job I am finally done with as of yesterday believe this.  If you bring up anything about counting mail in ballots after polls close, mail in and absentee is the same thing, more democrats voted mail in this election etc they lose their shit!  These are people that are fundamental in designing national security and defense apparatus of the USA, not morons, god knows I would never be able to achieve a masters in mechanical engineering.  I think we all really want to downplay how rampant this alternate reality is.  To placate some other posters I will say all 70 million+ Trump voters do not think and act this way, but I would definitely put the number at well over half.

yeah...it's frightening.   And how do we reverse it?  Is that even possible?

My wife has an old high school friend that kept sending her shit through FB messenger.  Wife told her to stop because it was just insane bullshit (hunter biden shit before election, giuliani shit after).  Her friend is super nice but just fucking stupid as hell.  She actually tried to convince my wife to watch a youtube video she sent that described by the Biden admin was going to turn the USA into a socialist country.

I don't see a way out of this.