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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Abe Froman said:
    Listened to the album with headphones again last and damn Retrograde into River Cross!  So good. That last minute or so of Retrograde might be my favorite of all of Gigaton. This is a really great album start to finish
    This
  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    Not a huge fan of the entire song but the end of Retrograde spectacular. The back third of the song reminds me of "Higher Truth" from Chris Cornell. 
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited April 2020
    First 2/3 is a nice mid tempo modern PJ tune

    last 1/3 is unbelievably good.  Obviously Eddie’s voice has always been a draw and thats one of the best uses of his voice on a record ever. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Last 1/3rd reminds me of the outro to 1/2 Full
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  • Fransway
    Fransway Posts: 9
    igotid88 said:
    Great song. But why the love for this song and the hate for Sirens?
    No idea. Both have similar cringeworthy production that I can’t get past and makes me a little embarrassed that I love this band as much as I do.

    Reminds me also of Speed of Sound, absolutely love the demo version, unable to listen to the overproduced Bon Jovi version on Backspacer.

    Other than that, I love the new album and can’t wait to see a bunch of these songs live at some point
  • Cridder
    Cridder Posts: 165
    Fransway said:
    igotid88 said:
    Great song. But why the love for this song and the hate for Sirens?
    No idea. Both have similar cringeworthy production that I can’t get past and makes me a little embarrassed that I love this band as much as I do.

    Reminds me also of Speed of Sound, absolutely love the demo version, unable to listen to the overproduced Bon Jovi version on Backspacer.

    Other than that, I love the new album and can’t wait to see a bunch of these songs live at some point

  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    Fransway said:
    igotid88 said:
    Great song. But why the love for this song and the hate for Sirens?
    No idea. Both have similar cringeworthy production that I can’t get past and makes me a little embarrassed that I love this band as much as I do.

    Reminds me also of Speed of Sound, absolutely love the demo version, unable to listen to the overproduced Bon Jovi version on Backspacer.

    Other than that, I love the new album and can’t wait to see a bunch of these songs live at some point
    I gotta ask, how is it cringeworthy? Why are you embarrassed? Are you a music producer? Have you sold millions of records? I’m not trying to start a fight, just wondering if you wanted to further explain what you meant?
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Fransway said:
    igotid88 said:Fransway said:
    igotid88 said:
    Great song. But why the love for this song and the hate for Sirens?
    No idea. Both have similar cringeworthy production that I can’t get past and makes me a little embarrassed that I love this band as much as I do.

    Reminds me also of Speed of Sound, absolutely love the demo version, unable to listen to the overproduced Bon Jovi version on Backspacer.

    Other than that, I love the new album and can’t wait to see a bunch of these songs live at some point

    Great song. But why the love for this song and the hate for Sirens?
    No idea. Both have similar cringeworthy production that I can’t get past and makes me a little embarrassed that I love this band as much as I do.

    Reminds me also of Speed of Sound, absolutely love the demo version, unable to listen to the overproduced Bon Jovi version on Backspacer.

    Other than that, I love the new album and can’t wait to see a bunch of these songs live at some point
    Lol. First time I've ever heard Speed of Sound compared to Bon Jovi.
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  • Eilian
    Eilian Posts: 276
    Most interesting guitar part, and perhaps the strongest melody on the album.
  • joseph33
    joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,340
    Red Mosqito said:
    Loved it from the get go. While every song on this album is kick ass, this was the one I immediately fell in love with on the first listen. 
    My thoughts exactly!!!
  • brennybren
    brennybren Posts: 1
    I'm often in general a repeat offender when I sit and listen at night. With this song, I do it with just the last 2 minutes.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    brennybren said:
    I'm often in general a repeat offender when I sit and listen at night. With this song, I do it with just the last 2 minutes.
    It's funny how many of their songs are like that....the middle or end can go in a completely different direction than the beginning
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Fransway
    Fransway Posts: 9
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Fransway said:
    igotid88 said:
    Great song. But why the love for this song and the hate for Sirens?
    No idea. Both have similar cringeworthy production that I can’t get past and makes me a little embarrassed that I love this band as much as I do.

    Reminds me also of Speed of Sound, absolutely love the demo version, unable to listen to the overproduced Bon Jovi version on Backspacer.

    Other than that, I love the new album and can’t wait to see a bunch of these songs live at some point
    I gotta ask, how is it cringeworthy? Why are you embarrassed? Are you a music producer? Have you sold millions of records? I’m not trying to start a fight, just wondering if you wanted to further explain what
    No, I’m not a music producer. Haven’t sold millions of records either. Gonna go out on a limb and say the majority of people posting on here aren’t either. But like everyone else I have opinions about what I like and don’t like, and I don’t like the production choices on either sirens, retrograde, or speed of sound. Not a ballad thing, I love the majority of their slow songs. I think all three have some of the best lyrics that Ed has ever written. Doesn’t mean that I’m wrong or right. I like buckle up, seems to put me in the minority on here. Same with Johnny Guitar.

    Don’t really understand how my opinion would be more or less valid if I had sold millions of albums. I mean, Drake has sold a bazillion albums, does that mean his opinion of pearl jam somehow carries more weight than any of us posting on here? 

    I’m glad you like retrograde, really. After listening to the album about 500 times since it’s been released, I have to admit it’s grown on me a bit as well lol. Still in the bottom 2 or 3 songs For me but not an automatic skip anymore



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