How do you think Coronavirus will change the world?

mace1229

Smellyman said:

mace1229 said:

Smellyman said:

Nothing, like 9/11 we might have to take off shoes in the US through security.

Elbow bumps instead of high fives.

People well go back to consuming self absorbed phone gawking assholes.

That wasn’t even from 9/11. That was from the show bomber almost a year later. When we think about how angry we were, how much we said “never again,” 9/11 really has had little impact on our daily lives. Not much I do every day is different. 

9/11 changes(ed) everything.

fast forward.

nope

Exactly. I think this will be the same. I’ve heard people say no more concerts, movie theaters, sporting events, etc. that will all be the same. Maybe less handshakes and people will wash their hands more, but not much more than that in a year or 2

Probably a lot more hand sanitizing stations in the public too, I could see that.

brianlux

I think in general people will basically not change much if at all.  I would like to thing so, but...  we'll see.

A few things I have been wondering about in terms of how will things change:

1) Will we learn from this and be better prepared for the next pandemic?

2)  What will economics look like on the local, national, and international level after the dust settles? 

EdsonNascimento

mace1229 said:

One  thing I think will change is school closures. After 2+ months of distance learning under our belts by the end of this year, I think more school will move to distance learning instead of snow days. Some school around here already have. I know we didn’t take a few snow days because we were worried about having to make up minutes. This might push more schools and districts to using this model more regularly. Maybe even not just snow days, but possibly when X number of students come down with the flu in the future they can do it for a week. Or many other random events, school threats, plumbing problems, etc.

I think changes will be more subtle like this.  Honestly, many schools could have been better prepared with the tools they already put in place (many aren’t so fortunate, so hopefully that will change).  At my kids school they all get chrome books to borrow, yet 3/4 of the teachers still make them carry books and rarely even post homework assignments.  It was ridiculous they had to take a week to teach the teachers how to use and leverage the tools our tax dollars have been paying for years. 

maybe now, we will see our kids not carry 50 lbs of books bc our teachers will finally catch up with the times in districts that have enabled them. Then we can have hope and fund districts that don’t.   

cincybearcat

EdsonNascimento said:

mace1229 said:

One  thing I think will change is school closures. After 2+ months of distance learning under our belts by the end of this year, I think more school will move to distance learning instead of snow days. Some school around here already have. I know we didn’t take a few snow days because we were worried about having to make up minutes. This might push more schools and districts to using this model more regularly. Maybe even not just snow days, but possibly when X number of students come down with the flu in the future they can do it for a week. Or many other random events, school threats, plumbing problems, etc.

I think changes will be more subtle like this.  Honestly, many schools could have been better prepared with the tools they already put in place (many aren’t so fortunate, so hopefully that will change).  At my kids school they all get chrome books to borrow, yet 3/4 of the teachers still make them carry books and rarely even post homework assignments.  It was ridiculous they had to take a week to teach the teachers how to use and leverage the tools our tax dollars have been paying for years. 

maybe now, we will see our kids not carry 50 lbs of books bc our teachers will finally catch up with the times in districts that have enabled them. Then we can have hope and fund districts that don’t.   

I gotta say, with my wife extended work away from home, me having to work at home and also still go in ("essential"), my kid having to do school at home, preparing even more meals....heck I actually prefer when everyone is going into work because now everyone's priority is supposed to become your instant priority.

I'm overly grumpy about all the facebook posts, tweets, news stories about what to do at home with your kids during the pandemic.  

I think you are right about the small changes to school.  I also think you will see more people using the technology that already existed (order ahead groceries, self-checkout, doordash, even more meetings virtually, etc).  In the short term I think Family night returns...cooking together, movie night, game night, whatever.  I think that settles back into it's norm later though.  I think travel/tourism will be hit pretty hard, once there is a vaccine those with the means to travel will have some significant opportunities. I do wonder if this will have any effect long-term on the # of chairs a restaurant can have....and what that means to $  and survival.

mfc2006

My wife & I were talking about this last night and here are a few business-related thoughts on what may change:

-The way we work may change. Some companies may see that there isn't a significant drop in employee productivity while their employees have been working from home. What does this mean? Maybe only working from the office in the AM, or working at the office 1-2 days/week. For example, the company I work for was very hesitant to allow us to work from home. Now they're already discussing working procedures once is this over because they've seen that all of the bases are still covered and time management has improved. (Not nearly as many meetings, etc)
-Retail will change. I imagine that some retailers (large and small) simply won't survive this unless they change their ways. By changing their ways, I mean fewer stores to reduce their footprint and offering DTC selling by using drop ship services. This was already starting to happen before the virus hit. I see grocery stores removing some aisles to make them wider and palletizing a lot of their products to reduce the need for constant stocking. I also think that automation will increase, which would lead to fewer jobs. I also think that you will see an increase in personal shopping & delivery services.
-Manufacturing will change. Countries will look to manufacture items within their borders more and more, which will lead to more jobs and pick up some of the slack that automation within the retail sector has taken away.

There's more that we talked about, but I haven't had enough coffee yet. Be well, all.

mace1229

EdsonNascimento said:

mace1229 said:

One  thing I think will change is school closures. After 2+ months of distance learning under our belts by the end of this year, I think more school will move to distance learning instead of snow days. Some school around here already have. I know we didn’t take a few snow days because we were worried about having to make up minutes. This might push more schools and districts to using this model more regularly. Maybe even not just snow days, but possibly when X number of students come down with the flu in the future they can do it for a week. Or many other random events, school threats, plumbing problems, etc.

I think changes will be more subtle like this.  Honestly, many schools could have been better prepared with the tools they already put in place (many aren’t so fortunate, so hopefully that will change).  At my kids school they all get chrome books to borrow, yet 3/4 of the teachers still make them carry books and rarely even post homework assignments.  It was ridiculous they had to take a week to teach the teachers how to use and leverage the tools our tax dollars have been paying for years. 

maybe now, we will see our kids not carry 50 lbs of books bc our teachers will finally catch up with the times in districts that have enabled them. Then we can have hope and fund districts that don’t.   

To stick up for teachers I know many prefer hard copies for several reasons. There’s always tech trouble with online stuff. I’ve never once had a parent email me and say the book won’t open to page 106. Kids misuse tech all the time, so it’s way easier management for hard copies as well. And with my school we all experienced far better turnout for work and homework if we handed out a hard copy in class rather than posting something online.

And the week we gave teachers was because it is a lot to transition from a small portion of your class online to 100% online. We not only have to figure out how to use the tech, which many of us did, but relay that info to students and parents. How is grading set up, how can they get help, etc

Ledbetterman10

brianlux said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

How will it change the world? Well two months ago I felt there was no way Trump loses in November. Now with the pandemic, I think he’s toast. 

I surely hope that he looses but some polls say his approval rating has gone up and that does not build my confidence.

Jesus. That’s surprising. I haven’t been paying much attention to approval ratings or even to Biden/Bernie (cause it’s over, Bernie) but man, you would think this would be hurting him. Even if Trump wasn’t to blame for the response to the virus (he is, but for a moment pretend he’s not), if the president gets credit for stuff like a good economy, why doesn’t he get blame for a national medical emergency? Like if you’re out of work right now due to the virus, why not blame Trump? At least you can hold him accountable by voting. You can’t vote against a Chinese wet-market in an American election. 

brianlux

Ledbetterman10 said:

brianlux said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

How will it change the world? Well two months ago I felt there was no way Trump loses in November. Now with the pandemic, I think he’s toast. 

I surely hope that he looses but some polls say his approval rating has gone up and that does not build my confidence.

Jesus. That’s surprising. I haven’t been paying much attention to approval ratings or even to Biden/Bernie (cause it’s over, Bernie) but man, you would think this would be hurting him. Even if Trump wasn’t to blame for the response to the virus (he is, but for a moment pretend he’s not), if the president gets credit for stuff like a good economy, why doesn’t he get blame for a national medical emergency? Like if you’re out of work right now due to the virus, why not blame Trump? At least you can hold him accountable by voting. You can’t vote against a Chinese wet-market in an American election. 

I hear you!  It is very surprising that Trumps approval rating hasn't gone into the ditch.  I guess his supporters would follow him into hell if that's where he said they should go.  Ship of fools.

myoung321

mace1229 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mace1229 said:

One  thing I think will change is school closures. After 2+ months of distance learning under our belts by the end of this year, I think more school will move to distance learning instead of snow days. Some school around here already have. I know we didn’t take a few snow days because we were worried about having to make up minutes. This might push more schools and districts to using this model more regularly. Maybe even not just snow days, but possibly when X number of students come down with the flu in the future they can do it for a week. Or many other random events, school threats, plumbing problems, etc.

I think changes will be more subtle like this.  Honestly, many schools could have been better prepared with the tools they already put in place (many aren’t so fortunate, so hopefully that will change).  At my kids school they all get chrome books to borrow, yet 3/4 of the teachers still make them carry books and rarely even post homework assignments.  It was ridiculous they had to take a week to teach the teachers how to use and leverage the tools our tax dollars have been paying for years. 

maybe now, we will see our kids not carry 50 lbs of books bc our teachers will finally catch up with the times in districts that have enabled them. Then we can have hope and fund districts that don’t.   

To stick up for teachers I know many prefer hard copies for several reasons. There’s always tech trouble with online stuff. I’ve never once had a parent email me and say the book won’t open to page 106. Kids misuse tech all the time, so it’s way easier management for hard copies as well. And with my school we all experienced far better turnout for work and homework if we handed out a hard copy in class rather than posting something online.

And the week we gave teachers was because it is a lot to transition from a small portion of your class online to 100% online. We not only have to figure out how to use the tech, which many of us did, but relay that info to students and parents. How is grading set up, how can they get help, etc

 no disrespect, but you're kinda starting to sound like the guy that said those new fangled motor vehicles will never replace the rock solid dependable wagons & horses.. 

Here's an idea... If the kids aren't using the tech correctly, then maybe they aren't being taught properly? How can we compete globally if there's an excuse for something like this? Basically you're saying "Kids and their parents are too stupid to do it online" 

tempo_n_groove

myoung321 said:

mace1229 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mace1229 said:

One  thing I think will change is school closures. After 2+ months of distance learning under our belts by the end of this year, I think more school will move to distance learning instead of snow days. Some school around here already have. I know we didn’t take a few snow days because we were worried about having to make up minutes. This might push more schools and districts to using this model more regularly. Maybe even not just snow days, but possibly when X number of students come down with the flu in the future they can do it for a week. Or many other random events, school threats, plumbing problems, etc.

I think changes will be more subtle like this.  Honestly, many schools could have been better prepared with the tools they already put in place (many aren’t so fortunate, so hopefully that will change).  At my kids school they all get chrome books to borrow, yet 3/4 of the teachers still make them carry books and rarely even post homework assignments.  It was ridiculous they had to take a week to teach the teachers how to use and leverage the tools our tax dollars have been paying for years. 

maybe now, we will see our kids not carry 50 lbs of books bc our teachers will finally catch up with the times in districts that have enabled them. Then we can have hope and fund districts that don’t.   

To stick up for teachers I know many prefer hard copies for several reasons. There’s always tech trouble with online stuff. I’ve never once had a parent email me and say the book won’t open to page 106. Kids misuse tech all the time, so it’s way easier management for hard copies as well. And with my school we all experienced far better turnout for work and homework if we handed out a hard copy in class rather than posting something online.

And the week we gave teachers was because it is a lot to transition from a small portion of your class online to 100% online. We not only have to figure out how to use the tech, which many of us did, but relay that info to students and parents. How is grading set up, how can they get help, etc

 no disrespect, but you're kinda starting to sound like the guy that said those new fangled motor vehicles will never replace the rock solid dependable wagons & horses.. 

Here's an idea... If the kids aren't using the tech correctly, then maybe they aren't being taught properly? How can we compete globally if there's an excuse for something like this? Basically you're saying "Kids and their parents are too stupid to do it online" 

All kids don't learn the same and the sooner the school board and government realizes that it would be better.

myoung321

tempo_n_groove said:

myoung321 said:

mace1229 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mace1229 said:

One  thing I think will change is school closures. After 2+ months of distance learning under our belts by the end of this year, I think more school will move to distance learning instead of snow days. Some school around here already have. I know we didn’t take a few snow days because we were worried about having to make up minutes. This might push more schools and districts to using this model more regularly. Maybe even not just snow days, but possibly when X number of students come down with the flu in the future they can do it for a week. Or many other random events, school threats, plumbing problems, etc.

I think changes will be more subtle like this.  Honestly, many schools could have been better prepared with the tools they already put in place (many aren’t so fortunate, so hopefully that will change).  At my kids school they all get chrome books to borrow, yet 3/4 of the teachers still make them carry books and rarely even post homework assignments.  It was ridiculous they had to take a week to teach the teachers how to use and leverage the tools our tax dollars have been paying for years. 

maybe now, we will see our kids not carry 50 lbs of books bc our teachers will finally catch up with the times in districts that have enabled them. Then we can have hope and fund districts that don’t.   

To stick up for teachers I know many prefer hard copies for several reasons. There’s always tech trouble with online stuff. I’ve never once had a parent email me and say the book won’t open to page 106. Kids misuse tech all the time, so it’s way easier management for hard copies as well. And with my school we all experienced far better turnout for work and homework if we handed out a hard copy in class rather than posting something online.

And the week we gave teachers was because it is a lot to transition from a small portion of your class online to 100% online. We not only have to figure out how to use the tech, which many of us did, but relay that info to students and parents. How is grading set up, how can they get help, etc

 no disrespect, but you're kinda starting to sound like the guy that said those new fangled motor vehicles will never replace the rock solid dependable wagons & horses.. 

Here's an idea... If the kids aren't using the tech correctly, then maybe they aren't being taught properly? How can we compete globally if there's an excuse for something like this? Basically you're saying "Kids and their parents are too stupid to do it online" 

All kids don't learn the same and the sooner the school board and government realizes that it would be better.

True.... which brings up a good point. The K-12 education system in the US is a product of the 19th and early 20th century.  It too came from events caused by class struggle which was magnified by the events of depression of the 1930's..... Time to rethink how we do it... ??

OnWis97

I myself have learned that working from home isn't so bad...I would not want to only do it this way, but I probably would a couple of times a month and would do so with colds, etc.  I think people will be less likely to work in person if their job allows otherwise (and there'll be more social pressure).

Most of our post 9/11 changes have been symbolic.  Take sporting events; We've replaced Take Me Out to the Ballgame with God Bless America (at least on Sundays).  We've put in extra efforts to show support for the military.  Will any of this rub off on some of the people who are sticking their necks out now?  First responders?  Maybe.  Nurses? Maybe. Doctors? Maybe.  All the other people going to work so we can buy food, gas, etc.? Probably not.  But this is going to last longer than the aftermath of 9/11 and touch more people.  It'll be interesting to see whether all of our love is mandated to go towards the military as it is now.

Random thoughts...

• US individualism.  We're being asked to look out for each other.  Will the individualistic culture still dominate to the degree it does today?  I don't think so.
  
• Environmentalism.  Will we appreciate the (relatively) cleaner air and water examples we're seeing? I don't think so.
• Transportation. Is this the end of public transportation?  Maybe.
• Handshaking: I'd LOVE handshaking to go away.  It's always been recognized as a germ-spreader...yet I continued to do it just not be be "rude."  I think that may happen.
• Sports.  I'm surprised how little I am missing sports right now (particularly given that it's supposed to be the NCAA basketball tournament).  Does this hurt sports TV viewership (and, therefore, sports in general?)
  

myoung321

OnWis97 said:

I myself have learned that working from home isn't so bad...I would not want to only do it this way, but I probably would a couple of times a month and would do so with colds, etc.  I think people will be less likely to work in person if their job allows otherwise (and there'll be more social pressure).

Most of our post 9/11 changes have been symbolic.  Take sporting events; We've replaced Take Me Out to the Ballgame with God Bless America (at least on Sundays).  We've put in extra efforts to show support for the military.  Will any of this rub off on some of the people who are sticking their necks out now?  First responders?  Maybe.  Nurses? Maybe. Doctors? Maybe.  All the other people going to work so we can buy food, gas, etc.? Probably not.  But this is going to last longer than the aftermath of 9/11 and touch more people.  It'll be interesting to see whether all of our love is mandated to go towards the military as it is now.

Random thoughts...

• US individualism.  We're being asked to look out for each other.  Will the individualistic culture still dominate to the degree it does today?  I don't think so.
  
• Environmentalism.  Will we appreciate the (relatively) cleaner air and water examples we're seeing? I don't think so.
• Transportation. Is this the end of public transportation?  Maybe.
• Handshaking: I'd LOVE handshaking to go away.  It's always been recognized as a germ-spreader...yet I continued to do it just not be be "rude."  I think that may happen.
• Sports.  I'm surprised how little I am missing sports right now (particularly given that it's supposed to be the NCAA basketball tournament).  Does this hurt sports TV viewership (and, therefore, sports in general?)
  

I agree 99% - but not on 9/11 changing being symbolic..  Think of how ours lives have changed in just "security"... airports, events ..etc.. or the money spent by our nation since 9/11.. Iraq and Afghan wars.. Homeland Security created... TRILLIONS$$$$$ spent...  It also created a  new hate crimes and more racism towards those of middle eastern decent. 

MayDay10

I looooove working from home.  

I have put forth some pretty good output the past 3 weeks too.  Maybe not 8-5....  but I have worked all hours and even some time on weekends.  

OnWis97

myoung321 said:

OnWis97 said:

I myself have learned that working from home isn't so bad...I would not want to only do it this way, but I probably would a couple of times a month and would do so with colds, etc.  I think people will be less likely to work in person if their job allows otherwise (and there'll be more social pressure).

Most of our post 9/11 changes have been symbolic.  Take sporting events; We've replaced Take Me Out to the Ballgame with God Bless America (at least on Sundays).  We've put in extra efforts to show support for the military.  Will any of this rub off on some of the people who are sticking their necks out now?  First responders?  Maybe.  Nurses? Maybe. Doctors? Maybe.  All the other people going to work so we can buy food, gas, etc.? Probably not.  But this is going to last longer than the aftermath of 9/11 and touch more people.  It'll be interesting to see whether all of our love is mandated to go towards the military as it is now.

Random thoughts...

• US individualism.  We're being asked to look out for each other.  Will the individualistic culture still dominate to the degree it does today?  I don't think so.
  
• Environmentalism.  Will we appreciate the (relatively) cleaner air and water examples we're seeing? I don't think so.
• Transportation. Is this the end of public transportation?  Maybe.
• Handshaking: I'd LOVE handshaking to go away.  It's always been recognized as a germ-spreader...yet I continued to do it just not be be "rude."  I think that may happen.
• Sports.  I'm surprised how little I am missing sports right now (particularly given that it's supposed to be the NCAA basketball tournament).  Does this hurt sports TV viewership (and, therefore, sports in general?)
  

I agree 99% - but not on 9/11 changing being symbolic..  Think of how ours lives have changed in just "security"... airports, events ..etc.. or the money spent by our nation since 9/11.. Iraq and Afghan wars.. Homeland Security created... TRILLIONS$$$$$ spent...  It also created a  new hate crimes and more racism towards those of middle eastern decent. 

True.  Obviously the airport thing is a big one.  I was thinking a bit more "micro" than the military action, etc...though admittedly, it's easy for me to forget about the hate crimes that haven't happened to me.  (I was also focused on the parellel between how we responded to 9/11 with patriotism/jingoism and the miltary...and whether that will translate to the people that are risking their health/lives now.  But that's not how I wrote it, so point taken).

OnWis97

MayDay10 said:

I looooove working from home.  

I have put forth some pretty good output the past 3 weeks too.  Maybe not 8-5....  but I have worked all hours and even some time on weekends.  

I was averse to it...but I'm coming around.  That said, I'm keeping it to a "work day" and trying not to touch it on evenings and weekends...to echo what some said earlier in this thread, I would not want to see a shifting expectation toward always being on call and losing even more of our work/life balance.

myoung321

OnWis97 said:

myoung321 said:

OnWis97 said:

I myself have learned that working from home isn't so bad...I would not want to only do it this way, but I probably would a couple of times a month and would do so with colds, etc.  I think people will be less likely to work in person if their job allows otherwise (and there'll be more social pressure).

Most of our post 9/11 changes have been symbolic.  Take sporting events; We've replaced Take Me Out to the Ballgame with God Bless America (at least on Sundays).  We've put in extra efforts to show support for the military.  Will any of this rub off on some of the people who are sticking their necks out now?  First responders?  Maybe.  Nurses? Maybe. Doctors? Maybe.  All the other people going to work so we can buy food, gas, etc.? Probably not.  But this is going to last longer than the aftermath of 9/11 and touch more people.  It'll be interesting to see whether all of our love is mandated to go towards the military as it is now.

Random thoughts...

• US individualism.  We're being asked to look out for each other.  Will the individualistic culture still dominate to the degree it does today?  I don't think so.
  
• Environmentalism.  Will we appreciate the (relatively) cleaner air and water examples we're seeing? I don't think so.
• Transportation. Is this the end of public transportation?  Maybe.
• Handshaking: I'd LOVE handshaking to go away.  It's always been recognized as a germ-spreader...yet I continued to do it just not be be "rude."  I think that may happen.
• Sports.  I'm surprised how little I am missing sports right now (particularly given that it's supposed to be the NCAA basketball tournament).  Does this hurt sports TV viewership (and, therefore, sports in general?)
  

I agree 99% - but not on 9/11 changing being symbolic..  Think of how ours lives have changed in just "security"... airports, events ..etc.. or the money spent by our nation since 9/11.. Iraq and Afghan wars.. Homeland Security created... TRILLIONS$$$$$ spent...  It also created a  new hate crimes and more racism towards those of middle eastern decent. 

True.  Obviously the airport thing is a big one.  I was thinking a bit more "micro" than the military action, etc...though admittedly, it's easy for me to forget about the hate crimes that haven't happened to me.  (I was also focused on the parellel between how we responded to 9/11 with patriotism/jingoism and the miltary...and whether that will translate to the people that are risking their health/lives now.  But that's not how I wrote it, so point taken).

Gotcha.. no way intended to discount your original comments. I understand completely. I"d for one love to see a Patriotism shift to those that work in healthcare to other jobs that keep us going. Maybe it will help us progress as a society. Care about others... Care if our neighbors have healthcare.. Care if the person stocking our supermarket shelves have healthcare... Just give a shit about your fellow citizens.. What a concept!!!!!

mace1229

myoung321 said:

mace1229 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mace1229 said:

One  thing I think will change is school closures. After 2+ months of distance learning under our belts by the end of this year, I think more school will move to distance learning instead of snow days. Some school around here already have. I know we didn’t take a few snow days because we were worried about having to make up minutes. This might push more schools and districts to using this model more regularly. Maybe even not just snow days, but possibly when X number of students come down with the flu in the future they can do it for a week. Or many other random events, school threats, plumbing problems, etc.

I think changes will be more subtle like this.  Honestly, many schools could have been better prepared with the tools they already put in place (many aren’t so fortunate, so hopefully that will change).  At my kids school they all get chrome books to borrow, yet 3/4 of the teachers still make them carry books and rarely even post homework assignments.  It was ridiculous they had to take a week to teach the teachers how to use and leverage the tools our tax dollars have been paying for years. 

maybe now, we will see our kids not carry 50 lbs of books bc our teachers will finally catch up with the times in districts that have enabled them. Then we can have hope and fund districts that don’t.   

To stick up for teachers I know many prefer hard copies for several reasons. There’s always tech trouble with online stuff. I’ve never once had a parent email me and say the book won’t open to page 106. Kids misuse tech all the time, so it’s way easier management for hard copies as well. And with my school we all experienced far better turnout for work and homework if we handed out a hard copy in class rather than posting something online.

And the week we gave teachers was because it is a lot to transition from a small portion of your class online to 100% online. We not only have to figure out how to use the tech, which many of us did, but relay that info to students and parents. How is grading set up, how can they get help, etc

 no disrespect, but you're kinda starting to sound like the guy that said those new fangled motor vehicles will never replace the rock solid dependable wagons & horses.. 

Here's an idea... If the kids aren't using the tech correctly, then maybe they aren't being taught properly? How can we compete globally if there's an excuse for something like this? Basically you're saying "Kids and their parents are too stupid to do it online" 

Horses and wagons are going to make a comeback, just wait and see!

I didn’t say they are too stupid and didn’t mean to imply that. But think of it this way, there’s 15 minutes left in class. I can pass our a hard copy of homework and let kids have 15 minutes to work on it. Or I can tell students to take out their computers, wait for them to turn on (which many of our school computers can take 3+ minutes just for that) give them time to go to whatever platform we use. Navigate to the correct assignment, and now there’s only 5 minutes to actually work on it.
And I’ve never been at a school where computers and internet are actually reliable. 

That’s just in class. With 150 students I have never given an online assignment without at least a few notes from parents explaining why they don’t have Internet right now.
But probably the biggest for me was as a chemistry teacher I haven’t found a good way for students to complete class/homework and show their work if it includes math or drawings. Which is probably 80% of the work we do. Draw a model of a water molecule, solve this gas law problem and show all your work, etc. it’s just so much easier on paper.

rgambs

Victory gardens are making a comeback!

Matts3221

MayDay10 said:

In order to see a major shift in people's general attitudes and economic trends, we are going to have to experience severe, unprecedented, and biblical tragedy.  While a utopia where things are equalized, world peace is realized, and iphones are melted down to make vaccines sounds great.  We would probably have to watch society completely crumble.  All the firearms and ammo out there in the US, and having kids aged 4 and 7, I am good with letting people enjoy their electronics awhile longer.  

Like I said, I think I would take a further emphasis on science and knowledge.  Especially in the US where people seem to think that clutching a flag, chanting USA! and paying unlimited money into a bloated military makes us invincible to anything.... and leadership is all based on 'teams', and we cant be harmed, even if we elect a reality show con man as president just to 'win'.   Maybe, just maybe, this can mend the great divide we have in this country ( and has bled throughout the world in places like UK, Brazil, etc).  

This.

I think if anyone believes we will see huge systemic changes in our class system or how we treat one another  , it is just not going to happen unless something biblical happens and I don't want to watch most people I know die. Its sad but I think the system will crank on and keep going the way it is , I think you will see small changes like not shaking hands for a while ( although I feel there are people out there right now who think " you cant tell me I cant shake hands " )

One would hope that a the lack of leadership showing right now in our country will change things but I still cannot count on Trump being out of office , don't get me wrong I want a society were we all get along , stop wars , come together but unless you see something like 25% of the world die and I don't want to see that , I don't see that large change.

Trump is still saying how shitty Obama was for H1N1 but says he is a hero if only 150K die from this.