Pearl Jam - Quick Escape

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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,955
    Eilian said:
    Eilian said:
    Eilian said:
    KN219077 said:
    Eilian said:
    It's such a cool song - really deserves an end solo that doesn't sound like a first take improv. The music beneath that solo is so interesting that anything you put on top of it really has to bring something melodically to the table. I'm finding McCready's thoughtless, speedy, noodling unbearable on this track especially. Such a missed opportunity.
    It’s kind of his style. He isn’t Trey Anastasio.
    Ruining songs shouldn't be a style.

    Plus, he's got so many thoughtful, brilliant solos under his belt which totally elevate the songs - I guess he just needs to be reined in by a good producer to actually think about the noise he's making.
    I don't think it is "ruing songs" as much as "you personally like liking it ".  I love it and think it elevates the song personally
    Sorry... Ruining songs shouldn't be a style (which is what I think he does on Quick Escape) Better?

    Evans since confirmed that the solo is exactly what it sounds like - a one take improv.
    McCready also came out on that AMA and said that he only really considers composition when songwriting, not soloing.

    He sounds, and often plays lead like he couldn't care less what it sounds like.


    Totally gutted by this poor take. Missed opportunity. 
    Sick burn. Wish McCready put as much thought into solos as you do into put downs.
    We get it.  You don’t like it so it sucks.  Can we move on now?
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  • Eilian
    Eilian Posts: 276
    on2legs said:
    Eilian said:
    Eilian said:
    Eilian said:
    KN219077 said:
    Eilian said:
    It's such a cool song - really deserves an end solo that doesn't sound like a first take improv. The music beneath that solo is so interesting that anything you put on top of it really has to bring something melodically to the table. I'm finding McCready's thoughtless, speedy, noodling unbearable on this track especially. Such a missed opportunity.
    It’s kind of his style. He isn’t Trey Anastasio.
    Ruining songs shouldn't be a style.

    Plus, he's got so many thoughtful, brilliant solos under his belt which totally elevate the songs - I guess he just needs to be reined in by a good producer to actually think about the noise he's making.
    I don't think it is "ruing songs" as much as "you personally like liking it ".  I love it and think it elevates the song personally
    Sorry... Ruining songs shouldn't be a style (which is what I think he does on Quick Escape) Better?

    Evans since confirmed that the solo is exactly what it sounds like - a one take improv.
    McCready also came out on that AMA and said that he only really considers composition when songwriting, not soloing.

    He sounds, and often plays lead like he couldn't care less what it sounds like.


    Totally gutted by this poor take. Missed opportunity. 
    Sick burn. Wish McCready put as much thought into solos as you do into put downs.
    We get it.  You don’t like it so it sucks.  Can we move on now?
    Stop asking me questions, rhetorical or otherwise. See what happens.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,955
    Yawn. 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,629
    Wasn't the Alive solo improv as well?
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  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    I’d guess most of mike’s solos begin as improvs, and in some sense, always are. But with a song like Alive, it had been played, I dunno, like 100 times by the time it was recorded, and there’s a general path he follows. He does deviate and he goes on tangents, but the structure stays the same by and large. 
    Then there’s instances like this song and like Reach Down where the songs very fresh and the album recording is capturing perhaps the first burst of inspiration coursing through Mike and out his guitar. That’s why it’s a fucking beautiful solo and perfect to my ears.

    I also love Stone’s solo and can’t wait to see how they evolve live.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Eilian said:
    Eilian said:
    Eilian said:
    KN219077 said:
    Eilian said:
    It's such a cool song - really deserves an end solo that doesn't sound like a first take improv. The music beneath that solo is so interesting that anything you put on top of it really has to bring something melodically to the table. I'm finding McCready's thoughtless, speedy, noodling unbearable on this track especially. Such a missed opportunity.
    It’s kind of his style. He isn’t Trey Anastasio.
    Ruining songs shouldn't be a style.

    Plus, he's got so many thoughtful, brilliant solos under his belt which totally elevate the songs - I guess he just needs to be reined in by a good producer to actually think about the noise he's making.
    I don't think it is "ruing songs" as much as "you personally like liking it ".  I love it and think it elevates the song personally
    Sorry... Ruining songs shouldn't be a style (which is what I think he does on Quick Escape) Better?

    Evans since confirmed that the solo is exactly what it sounds like - a one take improv.
    McCready also came out on that AMA and said that he only really considers composition when songwriting, not soloing.

    He sounds, and often plays lead like he couldn't care less what it sounds like.


    Totally gutted by this poor take. Missed opportunity. 
    Sick burn. Wish McCready put as much thought into solos as you do into put downs.
    Ooooooomph. Gutted. Just gutted.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    I’d guess most of mike’s solos begin as improvs, and in some sense, always are. But with a song like Alive, it had been played, I dunno, like 100 times by the time it was recorded, and there’s a general path he follows. He does deviate and he goes on tangents, but the structure stays the same by and large. 
    Then there’s instances like this song and like Reach Down where the songs very fresh and the album recording is capturing perhaps the first burst of inspiration coursing through Mike and out his guitar. That’s why it’s a fucking beautiful solo and perfect to my ears.

    I also love Stone’s solo and can’t wait to see how they evolve live.
    Agreed. Great song.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,993
    igotid88 said:
    Wasn't the Alive solo improv as well?
    I think nearly every Mike solo on record was improvised. They sure sound it. And they always evolve live. That's why I don't get why this guy is still complaining a full month later about Quick Escape.  
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  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    I’d guess most of mike’s solos begin as improvs, and in some sense, always are. But with a song like Alive, it had been played, I dunno, like 100 times by the time it was recorded, and there’s a general path he follows. He does deviate and he goes on tangents, but the structure stays the same by and large. 
    Then there’s instances like this song and like Reach Down where the songs very fresh and the album recording is capturing perhaps the first burst of inspiration coursing through Mike and out his guitar. That’s why it’s a fucking beautiful solo and perfect to my ears.

    I also love Stone’s solo and can’t wait to see how they evolve live.
    Well put. Actually this song is a pretty amazing example of the yin and yang that Stone and Mike have. Stone’s solo is very melodic and well thought out, whereas Mike just loses his mind and improvs. Too much of either wouldn’t work but they’ve always achieved such a great balance. 
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,629
    Thumbs up
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    igotid88 said:
    Thumbs up
    Way up. I think this, Dance, and 7 are up there with their best work since Yield. 

    Watched the visual thing on youtube on tv last night since I don't have apple tv. Over a month in and I am still really digging it. Didn't feel this way for the last two, that is for sure.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    igotid88 said:
    Thumbs up
    Way up. I think this, Dance, and 7 are up there with their best work since Yield. 

    Watched the visual thing on youtube on tv last night since I don't have apple tv. Over a month in and I am still really digging it. Didn't feel this way for the last two, that is for sure.
    I completely agree. Those 3 songs are simply amazing.
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  • djjazzy276
    djjazzy276 Posts: 233
    cd finally arrived yesterday...and as the tour got shut down i decided the first spin of the new cd would be driving in my car. i wanted everything to be just right this time...under ultra perfect conditions(no traffic!). it was such a long long wait...just to finally put it in and hit play...i had only listened to the Dance track previously.

    Quick Escape i loved instantly/massively first listen. it's got everything i look for(need) in pj. prestart to finish is freaky good. drums/bass killing it. marrakesh and kerouac get nods as does space and and the video on pj utube is wonderful   puff puff pass
    background vocals, production quality, overall groove...and that guitar solo. fuck yeah they did it!! HYPE
    Your self control is incredible. Are you by any chance a monk? No way I could have waited nearly a month to listen to the album before my physical copy arrived.
  • djjazzy276
    djjazzy276 Posts: 233
    igotid88 said:
    Thumbs up
    Way up. I think this, Dance, and 7 are up there with their best work since Yield. 

    Watched the visual thing on youtube on tv last night since I don't have apple tv. Over a month in and I am still really digging it. Didn't feel this way for the last two, that is for sure.
    Same. A month of listening regularly. In the house on vinyl, in the car or while out running. This has a replay value I just haven't felt from them in a long time. I was on the fence about ranking this next to Yield, but after a month, it's officially my favorite PJ record since then.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    igotid88 said:
    Thumbs up
    Way up. I think this, Dance, and 7 are up there with their best work since Yield. 

    Watched the visual thing on youtube on tv last night since I don't have apple tv. Over a month in and I am still really digging it. Didn't feel this way for the last two, that is for sure.
    Same. A month of listening regularly. In the house on vinyl, in the car or while out running. This has a replay value I just haven't felt from them in a long time. I was on the fence about ranking this next to Yield, but after a month, it's officially my favorite PJ record since then.
    Yeah I've had to force myself into going a day or two with not listening to it. lol

    Good argument to be made about it being best since Yield. I at least think its worthy to be in that discussion as the last couple were not...


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  • TJ25487
    TJ25487 Posts: 1,501
    IMO the best since Yield. I liken it to Yield because it is so accessible right out of the gate after only a few listens. Shit, No Code took me years to appreciate as well as Binaural and Riot Act and those records are deep and brooding and I have to be in the proper head space to fully appreciate them. Yield and Gigaton you can just put on anytime and anywhere and be blown away! 
  • demetrios
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    Pearl Jam - QUICK ESCAPE ♬Chiptune Cover♬

  • TJ25487
    TJ25487 Posts: 1,501
    demetrios said:
    Pearl Jam - QUICK ESCAPE ♬Chiptune Cover♬

    That was cool. Thanks for posting! 
  • demetrios
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    TJ25487 said:
    demetrios said:
    Pearl Jam - QUICK ESCAPE ♬Chiptune Cover♬

    That was cool. Thanks for posting! 

    No problemo! :)
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,891
    The bass is great in this.


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