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Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,907
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Gonna buy a new laptop to my mom for her birthday. All she does on her present one (an old one with Windows Vista still on it), is checking her bank, reading the local paper and watches movie trailers on youtube. 

The store has two cheap laptops at the same price ($280), one with chromebook and one with windows 10. The seller said that with the low specs the chromebook works a lot better and will held up better over time. 

So I bought that one. But now I'm starting to think if I should have gotten the Windows 10 one, having an OS my mom is familiar with and that has windows on it just in case it needs to be used for something more than reading the local newspaper...

Did I do the right choice?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    edited March 2020
    My daughter bought a Chromebook since that is what they have in all of the schools around here. Seems intuitive. Durability seems good. Uses it all the time. The cord took a crap about 15 months after she bought it. Easily replaceable. Probably got crimped in her 45+ pound backpack. Speaking of, she hauls the Chromebook with her everyday. She has dropped her backpack a few times. The thing still lives. 

    She is hard on electronics (we won't discuss the two phones she killed) so since the Chromebook is still humming along, I think it was a good choice for her. 
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    MacBook Pro
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  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    MacBook Pro
    We run on an 8 year old iMac.   But...I thought he was looking at two affordable options for mom. A MacbookPro is definitely not a few hundred dollars. She's not looking to design. She just wants to do some banking and watch some videos. That would probably be overkill for S_C Mama. Great computer though!
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,907
    edited March 2020
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    MacBook Pro
    Find a new Macbook Pro for 280 dollars, and sure - I'll get it for my mom.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,600
    Mac = hugely overpriced....but, if you listen to folks here then we will mostly be wiped out soon enough from The 'Rona so what the hell, might as well get the pricey one.
    ;)

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,907
    edited March 2020
    I HAVE A MACBOOK PRO MYSELF --

    --- BUT 

    THIS IS FOR MY 

    MOM.

    Read

    the 

    OP.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,179
    If that's all she needs a laptop for, either one would suffice. Personally, I would go with the Windows 10 one, but that's just because I would want something capable of running Visual Studio Express and/or SQL Server express in a pinch for my work. I don't think chromebook will support those apps. I know a couple of people with the chromebook and they really like them, so once your mom gets over the initial issue of learning a new OS, she'll probably like it.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,226
    This may help, SC. It's not a full VM, but at least you could review the basics to decide whether it's an experience you think she can get the hang of. Good luck!

     https://partnerdash.google.com/apps/simulator/chromebook 
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,456
    I would've gone with Windows but that's because I fucking loathe Google as a company.
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,278
    edited March 2020
    Cant your  mum just use an abacus like other boomers. 

    *joke. On this  forum best to always sign post a joke.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Mac = hugely overpriced....but, if you listen to folks here then we will mostly be wiped out soon enough from The 'Rona so what the hell, might as well get the pricey one.
    ;)

    Quality comes at a price.
    They cost so much more because they are built to last and be problem-free. Unlike Windows laptops.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,907
    edited March 2020
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Mac = hugely overpriced....but, if you listen to folks here then we will mostly be wiped out soon enough from The 'Rona so what the hell, might as well get the pricey one.
    ;)

    Quality comes at a price.
    They cost so much more because they are built to last and be problem-free. Unlike Windows laptops.
    Lol. That statement ages worse and worse for every product Apple launched. 

    THE DAYS OF MACBOOK PRO 2015 ARE OVER.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I accidentally dropped my 2015 Pro today and it survived.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,907
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I accidentally dropped my 2015 Pro today and it survived.
    I thought I bought a friends old 2015 macbook. Turned out it was a 2014. Am to afraid of conflict to bring it up. 

    To slow for my workflow. But whatever. Got my work laptop (DELL) that works well with the Adobe apps.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,600
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Mac = hugely overpriced....but, if you listen to folks here then we will mostly be wiped out soon enough from The 'Rona so what the hell, might as well get the pricey one.
    ;)

    Quality comes at a price.
    They cost so much more because they are built to last and be problem-free. Unlike Windows laptops.

    I hear this from Apple Lovers all of the time.
    My wife's MacBook Pro -- $3500, about 5 years ago.
    My last two HP laptops - combined, just under $1000, over the same 5 years.
    I have no problems with the HPs, up until I do, at which point I just go and buy a brand new one. 
    I can do this around 5 more times. 
    She still will need to use the same laptop during that time frame to make the investment balance out -- not gonna happen.

    The best part about people who want to put their cocks up into the Apple products?  Many of them do not have the money to be overpaying for this cult product.  (Kids especially.  Fuck off with your 'premium products' when you don't have lots of extra money?  What foolishness.)

    I still say SC should go the Apple route.  They are fancy and have the cache, so since The Rona is gonna leave half of us dead you might as well spend it!  ;)


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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I love the Mac OS but.
    Plus Apple have great customer telephone tech support.
    Windows meh...
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,600
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I love the Mac OS but.
    Plus Apple have great customer telephone tech support.
    Windows meh...

    I do not argue that some of the Apple tech and products have been far superior.
    I only argue that the price tag and the way that Apple seems to push customer spending is not something I can support.
    (Also, in my experience, the doucheplugs that work at the Apple Stores are the worst.  The absolute fucking worst.)
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,907
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I love the Mac OS but.
    Plus Apple have great customer telephone tech support.
    Windows meh...
    I hate Mac OS.

    How do you ctrl+x and ctrl+p a e.g. folder in Mac OS?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,907
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I love the Mac OS but.
    Plus Apple have great customer telephone tech support.
    Windows meh...

    I do not argue that some of the Apple tech and products have been far superior.
    I only argue that the price tag and the way that Apple seems to push customer spending is not something I can support.
    (Also, in my experience, the doucheplugs that work at the Apple Stores are the worst.  The absolute fucking worst.)
    Fireside singer Kristofer works at my local "Apple store".



    https://youtu.be/wJPoSaAoZ9w
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,456
    Big fan of Apple products here, well, sorta. We'll get to that. Bought an iMac in 2006 for $1500 and it's still running.  I don't use it but it still works and provides me with an iTunes backup of my current iMac (a late 2013 model I bought new in 2015).  From 1998-2004 I bought three Dell computers at an average cost of $1200 each.  They lasted about 2 years each before they were just flat-out unusable.  This was including upgrading items in the process, thus spending more money.  The only money I spent on my iMac was adding RAM (bc fuck Apple's RAM prices!) and a SuperDrive replacement ($100).  Boot times of my previous two computers:
    '06 iMac in 2006 - 30 sec
    '06 iMac in 2020 - 30 sec
    '04 Dell in 2004 - 1 minute
    '04 Dell in 2006 - 8 minutes

    Maybe I'm a rare case, but I've gotten a much better investment in one Apple computer that outlasted 3 Dells combined more than twofold.  Mind you, I'm no computer dummy.  I know how to properly take care of & monitor my computers' performances.  With a Mac, this is painless.  Don't install anything you don't want to install. With Windows, always had to have virus scanner software, firewall software, uninstaller software in case something accidentally or unknowingly got through, etc.  I want to turn the computer on and use it, not perform 20 minutes worth of maintenance checks every day before I do anything.

    I switched to Apple from Windows in 2006 because Apple made products that "just worked" (I know all the Apple haters love that one!) and they lasted.  And you'd buy one again in 10-12 years because of that experience.  More bang for the buck.

    Then, Steve Jobs died.  This is that part I said I'd get to.

    Apple has since been less about making long-lasting, just-working products and is now just another garbage tech company pushing out less than stellar products that not only bug out and operate counter-intuitively, but Apple also forces obsolescence upon when the machine is still more than fully capable of handling current software.  A recent example of this is the phasing out of iOS support for the iPhone 5c.  The 5c has the exact same inner workings as a 6s, which is still supported by the current iOS version. No reason the 5c can't have iOS 13 except that Apple just won't allow it.

    This is what really pisses me off with the current Apple model. They've gone from retaining customers with quality products to simply training the masses they need the newest, shiniest iThing every time the newest, shiniest iThing comes out.  Good for Apple, they spit out a new, uncreative model and everyone buys it.  Terrible for consumers, because, yes, we get shiny new things often, but there's a lack of innovation, quality, & resilience that existed when Jobs was alive.  Bottom line is, Tim Cook is just another greedy billionaire who only cares about the bottom line, not providing quality products and care.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I love the Mac OS but.
    Plus Apple have great customer telephone tech support.
    Windows meh...
    I hate Mac OS.

    How do you ctrl+x and ctrl+p a e.g. folder in Mac OS?
    Not sure, Google it.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Big fan of Apple products here, well, sorta. We'll get to that. Bought an iMac in 2006 for $1500 and it's still running.  I don't use it but it still works and provides me with an iTunes backup of my current iMac (a late 2013 model I bought new in 2015).  From 1998-2004 I bought three Dell computers at an average cost of $1200 each.  They lasted about 2 years each before they were just flat-out unusable.  This was including upgrading items in the process, thus spending more money.  The only money I spent on my iMac was adding RAM (bc fuck Apple's RAM prices!) and a SuperDrive replacement ($100).  Boot times of my previous two computers:
    '06 iMac in 2006 - 30 sec
    '06 iMac in 2020 - 30 sec
    '04 Dell in 2004 - 1 minute
    '04 Dell in 2006 - 8 minutes

    Maybe I'm a rare case, but I've gotten a much better investment in one Apple computer that outlasted 3 Dells combined more than twofold.  Mind you, I'm no computer dummy.  I know how to properly take care of & monitor my computers' performances.  With a Mac, this is painless.  Don't install anything you don't want to install. With Windows, always had to have virus scanner software, firewall software, uninstaller software in case something accidentally or unknowingly got through, etc.  I want to turn the computer on and use it, not perform 20 minutes worth of maintenance checks every day before I do anything.

    I switched to Apple from Windows in 2006 because Apple made products that "just worked" (I know all the Apple haters love that one!) and they lasted.  And you'd buy one again in 10-12 years because of that experience.  More bang for the buck.

    Then, Steve Jobs died.  This is that part I said I'd get to.

    Apple has since been less about making long-lasting, just-working products and is now just another garbage tech company pushing out less than stellar products that not only bug out and operate counter-intuitively, but Apple also forces obsolescence upon when the machine is still more than fully capable of handling current software.  A recent example of this is the phasing out of iOS support for the iPhone 5c.  The 5c has the exact same inner workings as a 6s, which is still supported by the current iOS version. No reason the 5c can't have iOS 13 except that Apple just won't allow it.

    This is what really pisses me off with the current Apple model. They've gone from retaining customers with quality products to simply training the masses they need the newest, shiniest iThing every time the newest, shiniest iThing comes out.  Good for Apple, they spit out a new, uncreative model and everyone buys it.  Terrible for consumers, because, yes, we get shiny new things often, but there's a lack of innovation, quality, & resilience that existed when Jobs was alive.  Bottom line is, Tim Cook is just another greedy billionaire who only cares about the bottom line, not providing quality products and care.
    Yeah my boot times are so fast compared to my Windows devices I've had before switching to Apple.
    Never going back to Windows. They lost me for good with their free Windows upgrade which was forced upon me and which messed up my PC rendering it unusable. Everyone I know that has a MacBook Pro does not say a bad thing about them.

    As for Apple's iPhones, that is a different matter. They force you to buy the new phone with their software upgrades. I have never had an iPhone and do not intend to. I just hope they don't mess things up with their MacBook Pro's as they are pricey (starting from $2000 AUD here).
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,456
    edited March 2020
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I love the Mac OS but.
    Plus Apple have great customer telephone tech support.
    Windows meh...
    I hate Mac OS.

    How do you ctrl+x and ctrl+p a e.g. folder in Mac OS?
    cmd+x, cmd+p
    Lose control, take command!
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,456
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Big fan of Apple products here, well, sorta. We'll get to that. Bought an iMac in 2006 for $1500 and it's still running.  I don't use it but it still works and provides me with an iTunes backup of my current iMac (a late 2013 model I bought new in 2015).  From 1998-2004 I bought three Dell computers at an average cost of $1200 each.  They lasted about 2 years each before they were just flat-out unusable.  This was including upgrading items in the process, thus spending more money.  The only money I spent on my iMac was adding RAM (bc fuck Apple's RAM prices!) and a SuperDrive replacement ($100).  Boot times of my previous two computers:
    '06 iMac in 2006 - 30 sec
    '06 iMac in 2020 - 30 sec
    '04 Dell in 2004 - 1 minute
    '04 Dell in 2006 - 8 minutes

    Maybe I'm a rare case, but I've gotten a much better investment in one Apple computer that outlasted 3 Dells combined more than twofold.  Mind you, I'm no computer dummy.  I know how to properly take care of & monitor my computers' performances.  With a Mac, this is painless.  Don't install anything you don't want to install. With Windows, always had to have virus scanner software, firewall software, uninstaller software in case something accidentally or unknowingly got through, etc.  I want to turn the computer on and use it, not perform 20 minutes worth of maintenance checks every day before I do anything.

    I switched to Apple from Windows in 2006 because Apple made products that "just worked" (I know all the Apple haters love that one!) and they lasted.  And you'd buy one again in 10-12 years because of that experience.  More bang for the buck.

    Then, Steve Jobs died.  This is that part I said I'd get to.

    Apple has since been less about making long-lasting, just-working products and is now just another garbage tech company pushing out less than stellar products that not only bug out and operate counter-intuitively, but Apple also forces obsolescence upon when the machine is still more than fully capable of handling current software.  A recent example of this is the phasing out of iOS support for the iPhone 5c.  The 5c has the exact same inner workings as a 6s, which is still supported by the current iOS version. No reason the 5c can't have iOS 13 except that Apple just won't allow it.

    This is what really pisses me off with the current Apple model. They've gone from retaining customers with quality products to simply training the masses they need the newest, shiniest iThing every time the newest, shiniest iThing comes out.  Good for Apple, they spit out a new, uncreative model and everyone buys it.  Terrible for consumers, because, yes, we get shiny new things often, but there's a lack of innovation, quality, & resilience that existed when Jobs was alive.  Bottom line is, Tim Cook is just another greedy billionaire who only cares about the bottom line, not providing quality products and care.
    Yeah my boot times are so fast compared to my Windows devices I've had before switching to Apple.
    Never going back to Windows. They lost me for good with their free Windows upgrade which was forced upon me and which messed up my PC rendering it unusable. Everyone I know that has a MacBook Pro does not say a bad thing about them.

    As for Apple's iPhones, that is a different matter. They force you to buy the new phone with their software upgrades. I have never had an iPhone and do not intend to. I just hope they don't mess things up with their MacBook Pro's as they are pricey (starting from $2000 AUD here).
    I have Apple everything because I like simplicity.  I'll always use iPhone since switching over, but I'm never at urge to buy the newest one just because it's new.  I still run my shit to the ground, even if Apple doesn't want me to.  I like to proverbially squeeze every last drop of toothpaste from the tube!  I tried a Samsung phone with Android.  Not only is Android is the most god awful fucking mess I've ever seen in my life, the phone itself died one month after contract.  Like, completely died.
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  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Big fan of Apple products here, well, sorta. We'll get to that. Bought an iMac in 2006 for $1500 and it's still running.  I don't use it but it still works and provides me with an iTunes backup of my current iMac (a late 2013 model I bought new in 2015).  From 1998-2004 I bought three Dell computers at an average cost of $1200 each.  They lasted about 2 years each before they were just flat-out unusable.  This was including upgrading items in the process, thus spending more money.  The only money I spent on my iMac was adding RAM (bc fuck Apple's RAM prices!) and a SuperDrive replacement ($100).  Boot times of my previous two computers:
    '06 iMac in 2006 - 30 sec
    '06 iMac in 2020 - 30 sec
    '04 Dell in 2004 - 1 minute
    '04 Dell in 2006 - 8 minutes

    Maybe I'm a rare case, but I've gotten a much better investment in one Apple computer that outlasted 3 Dells combined more than twofold.  Mind you, I'm no computer dummy.  I know how to properly take care of & monitor my computers' performances.  With a Mac, this is painless.  Don't install anything you don't want to install. With Windows, always had to have virus scanner software, firewall software, uninstaller software in case something accidentally or unknowingly got through, etc.  I want to turn the computer on and use it, not perform 20 minutes worth of maintenance checks every day before I do anything.

    I switched to Apple from Windows in 2006 because Apple made products that "just worked" (I know all the Apple haters love that one!) and they lasted.  And you'd buy one again in 10-12 years because of that experience.  More bang for the buck.

    Then, Steve Jobs died.  This is that part I said I'd get to.

    Apple has since been less about making long-lasting, just-working products and is now just another garbage tech company pushing out less than stellar products that not only bug out and operate counter-intuitively, but Apple also forces obsolescence upon when the machine is still more than fully capable of handling current software.  A recent example of this is the phasing out of iOS support for the iPhone 5c.  The 5c has the exact same inner workings as a 6s, which is still supported by the current iOS version. No reason the 5c can't have iOS 13 except that Apple just won't allow it.

    This is what really pisses me off with the current Apple model. They've gone from retaining customers with quality products to simply training the masses they need the newest, shiniest iThing every time the newest, shiniest iThing comes out.  Good for Apple, they spit out a new, uncreative model and everyone buys it.  Terrible for consumers, because, yes, we get shiny new things often, but there's a lack of innovation, quality, & resilience that existed when Jobs was alive.  Bottom line is, Tim Cook is just another greedy billionaire who only cares about the bottom line, not providing quality products and care.
    Yeah my boot times are so fast compared to my Windows devices I've had before switching to Apple.
    Never going back to Windows. They lost me for good with their free Windows upgrade which was forced upon me and which messed up my PC rendering it unusable. Everyone I know that has a MacBook Pro does not say a bad thing about them.

    As for Apple's iPhones, that is a different matter. They force you to buy the new phone with their software upgrades. I have never had an iPhone and do not intend to. I just hope they don't mess things up with their MacBook Pro's as they are pricey (starting from $2000 AUD here).
    I have Apple everything because I like simplicity.  I'll always use iPhone since switching over, but I'm never at urge to buy the newest one just because it's new.  I still run my shit to the ground, even if Apple doesn't want me to.  I like to proverbially squeeze every last drop of toothpaste from the tube!  I tried a Samsung phone with Android.  Not only is Android is the most god awful fucking mess I've ever seen in my life, the phone itself died one month after contract.  Like, completely died.
    Maybe it felt unloved? :wink: Samsung Galaxy owner forever here. 
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Big fan of Apple products here, well, sorta. We'll get to that. Bought an iMac in 2006 for $1500 and it's still running.  I don't use it but it still works and provides me with an iTunes backup of my current iMac (a late 2013 model I bought new in 2015).  From 1998-2004 I bought three Dell computers at an average cost of $1200 each.  They lasted about 2 years each before they were just flat-out unusable.  This was including upgrading items in the process, thus spending more money.  The only money I spent on my iMac was adding RAM (bc fuck Apple's RAM prices!) and a SuperDrive replacement ($100).  Boot times of my previous two computers:
    '06 iMac in 2006 - 30 sec
    '06 iMac in 2020 - 30 sec
    '04 Dell in 2004 - 1 minute
    '04 Dell in 2006 - 8 minutes

    Maybe I'm a rare case, but I've gotten a much better investment in one Apple computer that outlasted 3 Dells combined more than twofold.  Mind you, I'm no computer dummy.  I know how to properly take care of & monitor my computers' performances.  With a Mac, this is painless.  Don't install anything you don't want to install. With Windows, always had to have virus scanner software, firewall software, uninstaller software in case something accidentally or unknowingly got through, etc.  I want to turn the computer on and use it, not perform 20 minutes worth of maintenance checks every day before I do anything.

    I switched to Apple from Windows in 2006 because Apple made products that "just worked" (I know all the Apple haters love that one!) and they lasted.  And you'd buy one again in 10-12 years because of that experience.  More bang for the buck.

    Then, Steve Jobs died.  This is that part I said I'd get to.

    Apple has since been less about making long-lasting, just-working products and is now just another garbage tech company pushing out less than stellar products that not only bug out and operate counter-intuitively, but Apple also forces obsolescence upon when the machine is still more than fully capable of handling current software.  A recent example of this is the phasing out of iOS support for the iPhone 5c.  The 5c has the exact same inner workings as a 6s, which is still supported by the current iOS version. No reason the 5c can't have iOS 13 except that Apple just won't allow it.

    This is what really pisses me off with the current Apple model. They've gone from retaining customers with quality products to simply training the masses they need the newest, shiniest iThing every time the newest, shiniest iThing comes out.  Good for Apple, they spit out a new, uncreative model and everyone buys it.  Terrible for consumers, because, yes, we get shiny new things often, but there's a lack of innovation, quality, & resilience that existed when Jobs was alive.  Bottom line is, Tim Cook is just another greedy billionaire who only cares about the bottom line, not providing quality products and care.
    Yeah my boot times are so fast compared to my Windows devices I've had before switching to Apple.
    Never going back to Windows. They lost me for good with their free Windows upgrade which was forced upon me and which messed up my PC rendering it unusable. Everyone I know that has a MacBook Pro does not say a bad thing about them.

    As for Apple's iPhones, that is a different matter. They force you to buy the new phone with their software upgrades. I have never had an iPhone and do not intend to. I just hope they don't mess things up with their MacBook Pro's as they are pricey (starting from $2000 AUD here).
    I have Apple everything because I like simplicity.  I'll always use iPhone since switching over, but I'm never at urge to buy the newest one just because it's new.  I still run my shit to the ground, even if Apple doesn't want me to.  I like to proverbially squeeze every last drop of toothpaste from the tube!  I tried a Samsung phone with Android.  Not only is Android is the most god awful fucking mess I've ever seen in my life, the phone itself died one month after contract.  Like, completely died.
    I've never had an issue with Galaxy. 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,456
    deadendp said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Big fan of Apple products here, well, sorta. We'll get to that. Bought an iMac in 2006 for $1500 and it's still running.  I don't use it but it still works and provides me with an iTunes backup of my current iMac (a late 2013 model I bought new in 2015).  From 1998-2004 I bought three Dell computers at an average cost of $1200 each.  They lasted about 2 years each before they were just flat-out unusable.  This was including upgrading items in the process, thus spending more money.  The only money I spent on my iMac was adding RAM (bc fuck Apple's RAM prices!) and a SuperDrive replacement ($100).  Boot times of my previous two computers:
    '06 iMac in 2006 - 30 sec
    '06 iMac in 2020 - 30 sec
    '04 Dell in 2004 - 1 minute
    '04 Dell in 2006 - 8 minutes

    Maybe I'm a rare case, but I've gotten a much better investment in one Apple computer that outlasted 3 Dells combined more than twofold.  Mind you, I'm no computer dummy.  I know how to properly take care of & monitor my computers' performances.  With a Mac, this is painless.  Don't install anything you don't want to install. With Windows, always had to have virus scanner software, firewall software, uninstaller software in case something accidentally or unknowingly got through, etc.  I want to turn the computer on and use it, not perform 20 minutes worth of maintenance checks every day before I do anything.

    I switched to Apple from Windows in 2006 because Apple made products that "just worked" (I know all the Apple haters love that one!) and they lasted.  And you'd buy one again in 10-12 years because of that experience.  More bang for the buck.

    Then, Steve Jobs died.  This is that part I said I'd get to.

    Apple has since been less about making long-lasting, just-working products and is now just another garbage tech company pushing out less than stellar products that not only bug out and operate counter-intuitively, but Apple also forces obsolescence upon when the machine is still more than fully capable of handling current software.  A recent example of this is the phasing out of iOS support for the iPhone 5c.  The 5c has the exact same inner workings as a 6s, which is still supported by the current iOS version. No reason the 5c can't have iOS 13 except that Apple just won't allow it.

    This is what really pisses me off with the current Apple model. They've gone from retaining customers with quality products to simply training the masses they need the newest, shiniest iThing every time the newest, shiniest iThing comes out.  Good for Apple, they spit out a new, uncreative model and everyone buys it.  Terrible for consumers, because, yes, we get shiny new things often, but there's a lack of innovation, quality, & resilience that existed when Jobs was alive.  Bottom line is, Tim Cook is just another greedy billionaire who only cares about the bottom line, not providing quality products and care.
    Yeah my boot times are so fast compared to my Windows devices I've had before switching to Apple.
    Never going back to Windows. They lost me for good with their free Windows upgrade which was forced upon me and which messed up my PC rendering it unusable. Everyone I know that has a MacBook Pro does not say a bad thing about them.

    As for Apple's iPhones, that is a different matter. They force you to buy the new phone with their software upgrades. I have never had an iPhone and do not intend to. I just hope they don't mess things up with their MacBook Pro's as they are pricey (starting from $2000 AUD here).
    I have Apple everything because I like simplicity.  I'll always use iPhone since switching over, but I'm never at urge to buy the newest one just because it's new.  I still run my shit to the ground, even if Apple doesn't want me to.  I like to proverbially squeeze every last drop of toothpaste from the tube!  I tried a Samsung phone with Android.  Not only is Android is the most god awful fucking mess I've ever seen in my life, the phone itself died one month after contract.  Like, completely died.
    Maybe it felt unloved? :wink: Samsung Galaxy owner forever here. 
    I actually liked the phone itself.  Android on the other hand. :angry:  I still use my Galaxy earbuds with my iPhone because they are far superior to Apple's.


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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,907
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Big fan of Apple products here, well, sorta. We'll get to that. Bought an iMac in 2006 for $1500 and it's still running.  I don't use it but it still works and provides me with an iTunes backup of my current iMac (a late 2013 model I bought new in 2015).  From 1998-2004 I bought three Dell computers at an average cost of $1200 each.  They lasted about 2 years each before they were just flat-out unusable.  This was including upgrading items in the process, thus spending more money.  The only money I spent on my iMac was adding RAM (bc fuck Apple's RAM prices!) and a SuperDrive replacement ($100).  Boot times of my previous two computers:
    '06 iMac in 2006 - 30 sec
    '06 iMac in 2020 - 30 sec
    '04 Dell in 2004 - 1 minute
    '04 Dell in 2006 - 8 minutes

    Maybe I'm a rare case, but I've gotten a much better investment in one Apple computer that outlasted 3 Dells combined more than twofold.  Mind you, I'm no computer dummy.  I know how to properly take care of & monitor my computers' performances.  With a Mac, this is painless.  Don't install anything you don't want to install. With Windows, always had to have virus scanner software, firewall software, uninstaller software in case something accidentally or unknowingly got through, etc.  I want to turn the computer on and use it, not perform 20 minutes worth of maintenance checks every day before I do anything.

    I switched to Apple from Windows in 2006 because Apple made products that "just worked" (I know all the Apple haters love that one!) and they lasted.  And you'd buy one again in 10-12 years because of that experience.  More bang for the buck.

    Then, Steve Jobs died.  This is that part I said I'd get to.

    Apple has since been less about making long-lasting, just-working products and is now just another garbage tech company pushing out less than stellar products that not only bug out and operate counter-intuitively, but Apple also forces obsolescence upon when the machine is still more than fully capable of handling current software.  A recent example of this is the phasing out of iOS support for the iPhone 5c.  The 5c has the exact same inner workings as a 6s, which is still supported by the current iOS version. No reason the 5c can't have iOS 13 except that Apple just won't allow it.

    This is what really pisses me off with the current Apple model. They've gone from retaining customers with quality products to simply training the masses they need the newest, shiniest iThing every time the newest, shiniest iThing comes out.  Good for Apple, they spit out a new, uncreative model and everyone buys it.  Terrible for consumers, because, yes, we get shiny new things often, but there's a lack of innovation, quality, & resilience that existed when Jobs was alive.  Bottom line is, Tim Cook is just another greedy billionaire who only cares about the bottom line, not providing quality products and care.
    Yeah my boot times are so fast compared to my Windows devices I've had before switching to Apple.
    Never going back to Windows. They lost me for good with their free Windows upgrade which was forced upon me and which messed up my PC rendering it unusable. Everyone I know that has a MacBook Pro does not say a bad thing about them.

    As for Apple's iPhones, that is a different matter. They force you to buy the new phone with their software upgrades. I have never had an iPhone and do not intend to. I just hope they don't mess things up with their MacBook Pro's as they are pricey (starting from $2000 AUD here).
    I have Apple everything because I like simplicity.  I'll always use iPhone since switching over, but I'm never at urge to buy the newest one just because it's new.  I still run my shit to the ground, even if Apple doesn't want me to.  I like to proverbially squeeze every last drop of toothpaste from the tube!  I tried a Samsung phone with Android.  Not only is Android is the most god awful fucking mess I've ever seen in my life, the phone itself died one month after contract.  Like, completely died.
    And my iPhone SE's mic dropped down 75% in volume after my warranty period was over.
    And the home button on the bottow completely died, so I have to use that digital button.

    And at the same time, it has a 3,5mm plug so don't want to buy a new one.

    Tech man. Tech.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,456
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Big fan of Apple products here, well, sorta. We'll get to that. Bought an iMac in 2006 for $1500 and it's still running.  I don't use it but it still works and provides me with an iTunes backup of my current iMac (a late 2013 model I bought new in 2015).  From 1998-2004 I bought three Dell computers at an average cost of $1200 each.  They lasted about 2 years each before they were just flat-out unusable.  This was including upgrading items in the process, thus spending more money.  The only money I spent on my iMac was adding RAM (bc fuck Apple's RAM prices!) and a SuperDrive replacement ($100).  Boot times of my previous two computers:
    '06 iMac in 2006 - 30 sec
    '06 iMac in 2020 - 30 sec
    '04 Dell in 2004 - 1 minute
    '04 Dell in 2006 - 8 minutes

    Maybe I'm a rare case, but I've gotten a much better investment in one Apple computer that outlasted 3 Dells combined more than twofold.  Mind you, I'm no computer dummy.  I know how to properly take care of & monitor my computers' performances.  With a Mac, this is painless.  Don't install anything you don't want to install. With Windows, always had to have virus scanner software, firewall software, uninstaller software in case something accidentally or unknowingly got through, etc.  I want to turn the computer on and use it, not perform 20 minutes worth of maintenance checks every day before I do anything.

    I switched to Apple from Windows in 2006 because Apple made products that "just worked" (I know all the Apple haters love that one!) and they lasted.  And you'd buy one again in 10-12 years because of that experience.  More bang for the buck.

    Then, Steve Jobs died.  This is that part I said I'd get to.

    Apple has since been less about making long-lasting, just-working products and is now just another garbage tech company pushing out less than stellar products that not only bug out and operate counter-intuitively, but Apple also forces obsolescence upon when the machine is still more than fully capable of handling current software.  A recent example of this is the phasing out of iOS support for the iPhone 5c.  The 5c has the exact same inner workings as a 6s, which is still supported by the current iOS version. No reason the 5c can't have iOS 13 except that Apple just won't allow it.

    This is what really pisses me off with the current Apple model. They've gone from retaining customers with quality products to simply training the masses they need the newest, shiniest iThing every time the newest, shiniest iThing comes out.  Good for Apple, they spit out a new, uncreative model and everyone buys it.  Terrible for consumers, because, yes, we get shiny new things often, but there's a lack of innovation, quality, & resilience that existed when Jobs was alive.  Bottom line is, Tim Cook is just another greedy billionaire who only cares about the bottom line, not providing quality products and care.
    Yeah my boot times are so fast compared to my Windows devices I've had before switching to Apple.
    Never going back to Windows. They lost me for good with their free Windows upgrade which was forced upon me and which messed up my PC rendering it unusable. Everyone I know that has a MacBook Pro does not say a bad thing about them.

    As for Apple's iPhones, that is a different matter. They force you to buy the new phone with their software upgrades. I have never had an iPhone and do not intend to. I just hope they don't mess things up with their MacBook Pro's as they are pricey (starting from $2000 AUD here).
    I have Apple everything because I like simplicity.  I'll always use iPhone since switching over, but I'm never at urge to buy the newest one just because it's new.  I still run my shit to the ground, even if Apple doesn't want me to.  I like to proverbially squeeze every last drop of toothpaste from the tube!  I tried a Samsung phone with Android.  Not only is Android is the most god awful fucking mess I've ever seen in my life, the phone itself died one month after contract.  Like, completely died.
    And my iPhone SE's mic dropped down 75% in volume after my warranty period was over.
    And the home button on the bottow completely died, so I have to use that digital button.

    And at the same time, it has a 3,5mm plug so don't want to buy a new one.

    Tech man. Tech.
    They're all screwing us over for cash that we know better than to spend! Yet we do it anyway.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24
  • angry_skullangry_skull Posts: 323
    This imac is running pretty well 10 years in.
    But I'd say get her a Chromebook.
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