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More Important: Beating Trump or Stopping Bernie?

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    EarlWelshEarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,103
    edited March 2020
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    Post edited by EarlWelsh on
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
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    EarlWelshEarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,103
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    I’m aware, and this ain’t it. Also, what does conservatism have to do with me?
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    I’m aware, and this ain’t it. Also, what does conservatism have to do with me?
    You seem to be easily distracted
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    EarlWelshEarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,103
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    I’m aware, and this ain’t it. Also, what does conservatism have to do with me?
    You seem to be easily distracted
    And you’re a broken record but, please, explain how I’m distracted.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,090
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,090
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    I’m aware, and this ain’t it. Also, what does conservatism have to do with me?
    You seem to be easily distracted
    And you’re a broken record but, please, explain how I’m distracted.
    Here is Biden's actual medical history:
    https://go.joebiden.com/page/-/CiU2iAa4Ig_%20j5EQzueoad.pdf

    ....now let's see tRUmp's....
    specifically I'd like to know about his unplanned visit last November
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,090
    edited March 2020
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    WI 6/27/98 WI 10/8/00 MO 10/11/00 IL 4/23/03 MN 6/26/06 MN 6/27/06 WI 6/30/06 IL 8/5/07 IL 8/21/08 (EV) IL 8/22/08 (EV) IL 8/23/09 IL 8/24/09 IN 5/7/10 IL 6/28/11 (EV) IL 6/29/11 (EV) WI 9/3/11 WI 9/4/11 IL 7/19/13 NE 10/09/14 IL 10/17/14 MN 10/19/14 FL 4/11/16 IL 8/20/16 IL 8/22/16 IL 08/18/18 IL 08/20/18 IT 07/05/2020 AT 07/07/2020
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I hope Bernie wins, we need a shift back towards the left in the world.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    I hope Bernie wins, we need a shift back towards the left in the world.
    Bernie already lost. Twice now. 

    He needs to drop out.

    Bernie staying in the race only helps tRUmp now. 
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Whoever leads the Democrats then. The world has swung too far to the right in recent years and it worries me.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,090
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?
    No idea what you're going on about.

    This isn't new, Biden has always had it.

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,090
    edited April 2020
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Beating Trump in the fall
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
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    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
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    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
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    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
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    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,561
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    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
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    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
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    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
    May I remind everyone of 2016 wherein the Democratic Party was so sure of reasoning and facts and against all projections to the contrary we got Trump.  But by all means let’s shame each other into defeat again. 🤦‍♂️
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
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    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
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    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
    May I remind everyone of 2016 wherein the Democratic Party was so sure of reasoning and facts and against all projections to the contrary we got Trump.  But by all means let’s shame each other into defeat again. 🤦‍♂️
    May I remind everyone that Bernie is still not a registered Democrat and not a member of the Democratic Party.  He only pledged to serve as a Democrat if elected.  Which is totes not the same.
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    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
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    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
    May I remind everyone of 2016 wherein the Democratic Party was so sure of reasoning and facts and against all projections to the contrary we got Trump.  But by all means let’s shame each other into defeat again. 🤦‍♂️
    May I remind everyone of:

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”
    “No quid pro quo.”
    “Imminent threat.”
    “I thought he was Israeli.”

    And “Russia if you’re listening,” and there’s no way social media could have possibly influenced an election in three key swing states by approximately 66,000 votes combined.



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