CoVid19 Virus : Impact on PJ Spring & Summer Tours

gotthebottle

elvistheking44 said:

mattsavard said:

As of right now we are still planning on going to Ottawa/Quebec City. Hotel cancellation deadlines are on the 17th and 18th so plenty of time, Not sure how late the VIA rate or Delta cancellations will go. 

Not worried about tickets selling if we don't go, they're great (GA Ottawa / front row risers sidestage in Quebec City) and will move. 

Will see how things unfold this next week.  We will have masks on for the shows most likely. 

By all means please do wear a mask if you have the virus.

If you have the virus DON"T GO TO THE SHOW

nicknyr15

gotthebottle said:

elvistheking44 said:

mattsavard said:

As of right now we are still planning on going to Ottawa/Quebec City. Hotel cancellation deadlines are on the 17th and 18th so plenty of time, Not sure how late the VIA rate or Delta cancellations will go. 

Not worried about tickets selling if we don't go, they're great (GA Ottawa / front row risers sidestage in Quebec City) and will move. 

Will see how things unfold this next week.  We will have masks on for the shows most likely. 

By all means please do wear a mask if you have the virus.

If you have the virus DON"T GO TO THE SHOW

🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

bootlegger10

It must be tough for old people.  No one gives a shit about them.  If this virus killed kids there would be a full on panic.  

static111

They just closed northern italy

JPPJ84

bootlegger10 said:

It must be tough for old people.  No one gives a shit about them.  If this virus killed kids there would be a full on panic.  

I don’t think that’s true. Everyone‘s concerned about their older parents and grandparents. I‘ve literally just lectured my granddad on what he is and isn’t allowed to do.
 It’s just the cold hard reality that viruses get weaker folk first. Emphasizing that trying to put things in context doesn’t mean no one cares

bootlegger10

JPPJ84 said:

bootlegger10 said:

It must be tough for old people.  No one gives a shit about them.  If this virus killed kids there would be a full on panic.  

I don’t think that’s true. Everyone‘s concerned about their older parents and grandparents. I‘ve literally just lectured my granddad on what he is and isn’t allowed to do.
 It’s just the cold hard reality that viruses get weaker folk first. Emphasizing that trying to put things in context doesn’t mean no one cares

I understand, but the when the weak are old people they gets stuck in the old people die bucket versus everyone all in to save the kids.  

We all care about the old people in our lives.  

gotthebottle

what happened to the fun we were having with song titles? 
Truth in this country: Nursing facilities are understaffed and underpreparted for a spread of a virus (EXACTLY what happend at Life Care Center in Kirkland). Not enough PPE, training, time...so the "old people" (and I wonder what some of you cut off the age for old) are left at the hands of fate. 

mattsavard

elvistheking44 said:

mattsavard said:

As of right now we are still planning on going to Ottawa/Quebec City. Hotel cancellation deadlines are on the 17th and 18th so plenty of time, Not sure how late the VIA rate or Delta cancellations will go. 

Not worried about tickets selling if we don't go, they're great (GA Ottawa / front row risers sidestage in Quebec City) and will move. 

Will see how things unfold this next week.  We will have masks on for the shows most likely. 

By all means please do wear a mask if you have the virus.

WHO report from Wuhan: ""Although the respirator group encountered confirmed cases more often than the unmasked group — more than 730% more often — no one in the respirator group became infected. 

In comparison, 10 people in the unmasked group contracted the novel disease, despite treating fewer infected patients.

"It would appear that N95 respirators, no surprise, protect against health care acquisition of the virus," said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious-diseases specialist at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee"

n95 masks are highly effective at preventing infection for the wearer. 

gotthebottle

"n95 masks are highly effective at preventing infection for the wearer"

IF THEY ARE FIT TEST PROPERLY...and I'm a health care professional that has had them fit test in the past. 

bbiggs

bootlegger10 said:

It must be tough for old people.  No one gives a shit about them.  If this virus killed kids there would be a full on panic.  

Most people I’ve discussed this with say something like “it only kills you if you’re old,” as if that makes it insignificant.  I’m sure a lot of people in their 60s, 70s and 80s that died from this felt they had a lot of life to live. It’s a shame. You’re right though. If kids were as susceptible, the panic meter would have blown up by now. 

MS4677

bbiggs said:

bootlegger10 said:

It must be tough for old people.  No one gives a shit about them.  If this virus killed kids there would be a full on panic.  

Most people I’ve discussed this with say something like “it only kills you if you’re old,” as if that makes it insignificant.  I’m sure a lot of people in their 60s, 70s and 80s that died from this felt they had a lot of life to live. It’s a shame. You’re right though. If kids were as susceptible, the panic meter would have blown up by now. 

past tense. panic meter is blown up

bbiggs

gotthebottle said:

"n95 masks are highly effective at preventing infection for the wearer"

IF THEY ARE FIT TEST PROPERLY...and I'm a health care professional that has had them fit test in the past. 

I’m sure he can get his properly fit tested if he chooses. If I go to the shows, I won’t be wearing a mask, but I have zero issue with anyone that does decide to take that precaution. The “masks don’t do anything” camp is nonsense. Droplets transmit the disease. A mask (properly fit or not) reduces the likelihood of droplets hitting someone’s face. 

Weston1283

gotthebottle said:

"n95 masks are highly effective at preventing infection for the wearer"

IF THEY ARE FIT TEST PROPERLY...and I'm a health care professional that has had them fit test in the past. 

Yeah, you have to be clean shaven outside of a short mustache for them to function effectively.  When I started at the hospital they made us all clean shave and get fitted for the masks.

washed in black

JP218404 said:

mcgruff10 said:

@Saltzy23 So I assume you live in one of the five boroughs but work in Manhatten; what is the vibe in the city?  is it business as usual?  People wearing masks?  

Was in the city last night.  Same as it always is. People out and about doing there thing. 

Was at the Rangers game last night. Same as it always is (though Kyle MacLachlan was in our section and we nearly bumped into him and he was apologetic for holding us up)

myoung321

gotthebottle said:

what happened to the fun we were having with song titles? 
Truth in this country: Nursing facilities are understaffed and underpreparted for a spread of a virus (EXACTLY what happend at Life Care Center in Kirkland). Not enough PPE, training, time...so the "old people" (and I wonder what some of you cut off the age for old) are left at the hands of fate. 

Old, like over 50 rock bands?

People also need to remember any flu can be deadly for anyone at any AGE that have pre-exsisting health issues such as respiratory, cardiac, diabetes, etc..etc.. regardless of age, They (we) are always at much higher risks. 

on2legs

Fit testing for.a mask is not complicated.  I’ve been fit tested many times.  It mainly consists of confirming you’re  getting oxygen through the filter and they typically break a capsule with a strong aroma, like banana, and make sure you can’t smell it. 

Kurt Brutus Bacon

bbiggs said:

gotthebottle said:

"n95 masks are highly effective at preventing infection for the wearer"

IF THEY ARE FIT TEST PROPERLY...and I'm a health care professional that has had them fit test in the past. 

I’m sure he can get his properly fit tested if he chooses. If I go to the shows, I won’t be wearing a mask, but I have zero issue with anyone that does decide to take that precaution. The “masks don’t do anything” camp is nonsense. Droplets transmit the disease. A mask (properly fit or not) reduces the likelihood of droplets hitting someone’s face. 

Experts who dedicated their lives in this field say that a mask is of no use. 
Should we: 

A. Put them on anyway
B. Listen to the experts

chiwhitesox

on2legs said:

Fit testing for.a mask is not complicated.  I’ve been fit tested many times.  It mainly consists of confirming you’re  getting oxygen through the filter and they typically break a capsule with a strong aroma, like banana, and make sure you can’t smell it. 

So wearing an n95 means any potential contact high is out the window?

Fuck that.

bbiggs

Kurt Brutus Bacon said:

bbiggs said:

gotthebottle said:

"n95 masks are highly effective at preventing infection for the wearer"

IF THEY ARE FIT TEST PROPERLY...and I'm a health care professional that has had them fit test in the past. 

I’m sure he can get his properly fit tested if he chooses. If I go to the shows, I won’t be wearing a mask, but I have zero issue with anyone that does decide to take that precaution. The “masks don’t do anything” camp is nonsense. Droplets transmit the disease. A mask (properly fit or not) reduces the likelihood of droplets hitting someone’s face. 

Experts who dedicated their lives in this field say that a mask is of no use. 
Should we: 

A. Put them on anyway
B. Listen to the experts

I've read experts state that a mask IS of use as well.  I always defer to the experts, but if two sets of "experts" are giving two sets of answers, I'd take the more conservative route if I was considering wearing a mask (I'm not).  To each their own.

Spunkie

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