Fan-to-Fan Ticket Exchange for Dummies

pearljam92 · March 1

hey! Hope everyone had a good 4 years. Scored Baltimore tix last time on here.

Looking for 2 for Philly N1 this time. Good luck everyone! Thanks.

100 Pacer · March 1

PJNB said:

This may have already been discussed but do we think we will be losing out on the taxes every fan to fan sale?

If I’m not mistaken that was the issue they corrected last year where initial listings posted and sold without the tax and the seller saw a credit posted on the statement for the difference.

JE224127 · March 4

Good to see the practice of dropping full rows of premiums is alive and well at Baltimore. SMDH

verceman · March 4

JE224127 said:

Good to see the practice of dropping full rows of premiums is alive and well at Baltimore. SMDH

Philly as well. Wondering, could they have not read the market right with these prices, and tickets still being available at this point? Calling a lot of these seats "Premium" is a bit of a stretch.

JimmyV · March 4

Open the floodgates!

RatherStarved · March 4

Take a look at Vancouver.

Zod · March 4

RatherStarved said:

Take a look at Vancouver.

Yah, I think it's rather optomistic that they'll sell all those seats. They're mostly back of the lower bowl seats asking for pretty high prices. I suppose it's a positive 10c members got a lot of the closer tickets, but those seats aren't great at the back. Plus it looks like they put them all for sale at the same time. Usually the secret with platinum is to trickle them out to create the illusion of scarcity. Not sure what they're doing with the vancouver tix.

hairgrowth2001 · March 4

They show the platinum tickets and then take groups of them away as if they are being sold. It creates a bit of panic and some people cave on the prices. They do the same thing with standard tickets for shows that aren’t selling well.

steven87 · March 4

JE224127 said:

Good to see the practice of dropping full rows of premiums is alive and well at Baltimore. SMDH

A few additional rows in the sections closest to the stage have appeared for MSG as well.

JeBurkhardt · March 4

2 months until the tour opener date. You would think it will become available fairly soon.

RatherStarved · March 4

Zod said:

RatherStarved said:

Take a look at Vancouver.

Yah, I think it's rather optomistic that they'll sell all those seats. They're mostly back of the lower bowl seats asking for pretty high prices. I suppose it's a positive 10c members got a lot of the closer tickets, but those seats aren't great at the back. Plus it looks like they put them all for sale at the same time. Usually the secret with platinum is to trickle them out to create the illusion of scarcity. Not sure what they're doing with the vancouver tix.

I wouldn’t buy those Vancouver back of the back lowers at regular price, let alone premium. Who do they think is going to buy those?

Vedd Hedd · March 4

The key here is to not buy PJ Premium. Resist the urge, although most people cant/wont afford these anyway.

Lots will be available, F2F and then drops the few days before the show.

JE224127 · March 4

^^^^This

RatherStarved · March 4

@“Go Animal" who has a thread on this…

steven87 · March 4

On multiple occasions over the past few years, I ended up purchasing great seats that were previously marked as premium after they dropped to standard pricing on the week/day of the show. It’s just a waiting game.

RatherStarved · March 4

Funnily enough some of the 3X premiums for Vancouver 1 are now 2X. Still that’s at least 1X too high but they do eventually get the message of what people will and won’t buy. Maybe it’s all automated like airline pricing.

schaefferlax · March 4

RatherStarved said:

Funnily enough some of the 3X premiums for Vancouver 1 are now 2X. Still that’s at least 1X too high but they do eventually get the message of what people will and won’t buy. Maybe it’s all automated like airline pricing.

They definitely have AI geeks straight out of college working on pricing strategy

RatherStarved · March 4

You know it’s out of control when they are advertising putting it on layaway!

Zod · March 5

schaefferlax said:

RatherStarved said:

Funnily enough some of the 3X premiums for Vancouver 1 are now 2X. Still that’s at least 1X too high but they do eventually get the message of what people will and won’t buy. Maybe it’s all automated like airline pricing.

They definitely have AI geeks straight out of college working on pricing strategy

yah, what the f, they put even more up, there's a bazillion premium tix for sale now. they're really messing that up.

RatherStarved · March 5

Zod said:

schaefferlax said:

RatherStarved said:

Funnily enough some of the 3X premiums for Vancouver 1 are now 2X. Still that’s at least 1X too high but they do eventually get the message of what people will and won’t buy. Maybe it’s all automated like airline pricing.

They definitely have AI geeks straight out of college working on pricing strategy

yah, what the f, they put even more up, there's a bazillion premium tix for sale now. they're really messing that up.

What a disgrace- on the other hand - I intentionally didn’t enter the draw for that show - will be interesting to see when there’s a standard drop - hopefully I’ll be online at the time or someone will ping me! I think it will be like MSP was.

Zod · March 5

RatherStarved said:

Zod said:

schaefferlax said:

RatherStarved said:

Funnily enough some of the 3X premiums for Vancouver 1 are now 2X. Still that’s at least 1X too high but they do eventually get the message of what people will and won’t buy. Maybe it’s all automated like airline pricing.

They definitely have AI geeks straight out of college working on pricing strategy

yah, what the f, they put even more up, there's a bazillion premium tix for sale now. they're really messing that up.

What a disgrace- on the other hand - I intentionally didn’t enter the draw for that show - will be interesting to see when there’s a standard drop - hopefully I’ll be online at the time or someone will ping me! I think it will be like MSP was.

I ended up with a spare pair for night 2, a little worried that they'll wait forever to open up fan2fan and they'll be competing with these seats.. shrug.

I guess it explains how it "sold out" so quick.

I've never seen this with platinum tickets though. Putting them all on sale at once so people know there's boatloads and to wait it out?

verceman · March 5

I'm really surprised there are still any tickets available for NY and Philly at all at this point. I thought the Ticketmaster algorithm was much more sophisticated, and that dynamic pricing would be much more real time, getting the prices adjusted to whatever the market rate was to sell out.

HailHailVitalogy · March 5

verceman said:

I'm really surprised there are still any tickets available for NY and Philly at all at this point. I thought the Ticketmaster algorithm was much more sophisticated, and that dynamic pricing would be much more real time, getting the prices adjusted to whatever the market rate was to sell out.

All it takes is one person to buy a premium ticket for the prices to stay.

RatherStarved · March 5

verceman said:

I'm really surprised there are still any tickets available for NY and Philly at all at this point. I thought the Ticketmaster algorithm was much more sophisticated, and that dynamic pricing would be much more real time, getting the prices adjusted to whatever the market rate was to sell out.

It’s a waiting game. With 6 months to go they aren’t in a rush to cut prices. They know they can sell those seats at any time at the right price. They’re not in a rush and they prey upon our need for certainty.

verceman · March 5

RatherStarved said:

verceman said:

I'm really surprised there are still any tickets available for NY and Philly at all at this point. I thought the Ticketmaster algorithm was much more sophisticated, and that dynamic pricing would be much more real time, getting the prices adjusted to whatever the market rate was to sell out.

It’s a waiting game. With 6 months to go they aren’t in a rush to cut prices. They know they can sell those seats at any time at the right price. They’re not in a rush and they prey upon our need for certainty.

Yeah fair point, and maybe one of these songs from the new album becomes a hit between now and then, and the ticket demand spikes

RatherStarved · March 5

verceman said:

RatherStarved said:

verceman said:

I'm really surprised there are still any tickets available for NY and Philly at all at this point. I thought the Ticketmaster algorithm was much more sophisticated, and that dynamic pricing would be much more real time, getting the prices adjusted to whatever the market rate was to sell out.

It’s a waiting game. With 6 months to go they aren’t in a rush to cut prices. They know they can sell those seats at any time at the right price. They’re not in a rush and they prey upon our need for certainty.

Yeah fair point, and maybe one of these songs from the new album becomes a hit between now and then, and the ticket demand spikes

Well I don’t think the new music will move the needle on demand no matter what it sounds like. Either good or bad.

smak · March 7

RatherStarved said:

Zod said:

RatherStarved said:

Take a look at Vancouver.

Yah, I think it's rather optomistic that they'll sell all those seats. They're mostly back of the lower bowl seats asking for pretty high prices. I suppose it's a positive 10c members got a lot of the closer tickets, but those seats aren't great at the back. Plus it looks like they put them all for sale at the same time. Usually the secret with platinum is to trickle them out to create the illusion of scarcity. Not sure what they're doing with the vancouver tix.

I wouldn’t buy those Vancouver back of the back lowers at regular price, let alone premium. Who do they think is going to buy those?

This is my one major problem. Those seats should be $90. I think that would have solved so many issues with the pricing.

Go Animal · March 7

RatherStarved said:

@“Go Animal" who has a thread on this…

👋🏻

RatherStarved · March 7

smak said:

RatherStarved said:

Zod said:

RatherStarved said:

Take a look at Vancouver.

Yah, I think it's rather optomistic that they'll sell all those seats. They're mostly back of the lower bowl seats asking for pretty high prices. I suppose it's a positive 10c members got a lot of the closer tickets, but those seats aren't great at the back. Plus it looks like they put them all for sale at the same time. Usually the secret with platinum is to trickle them out to create the illusion of scarcity. Not sure what they're doing with the vancouver tix.

I wouldn’t buy those Vancouver back of the back lowers at regular price, let alone premium. Who do they think is going to buy those?

This is my one major problem. Those seats should be $90. I think that would have solved so many issues with the pricing.

Vancouver standard price is $208 Canadian. I don’t think they have to slash the price of the rear lowers to $90. They’d probably sell at $150-175 and maybe even the full $208, though I wouldn’t buy that. However in no world (maybe other than MSG and Philly) should those seats be premium.

efroten2 · March 7

How long before the 2023 shows did they turn on fan to fan? Looking to unload some Sac tix.

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