This may have already been discussed but do we think we will be losing out on the taxes every fan to fan sale?
If I’m not mistaken that was the issue they corrected last year where initial listings posted and sold without the tax and the seller saw a credit posted on the statement for the difference.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
Good to see the practice of dropping full rows of premiums is alive and well at Baltimore. SMDH
Philly as well. Wondering, could they have not read the market right with these prices, and tickets still being available at this point? Calling a lot of these seats "Premium" is a bit of a stretch.
Yah, I think it's rather optomistic that they'll sell all those seats. They're mostly back of the lower bowl seats asking for pretty high prices. I suppose it's a positive 10c members got a lot of the closer tickets, but those seats aren't great at the back. Plus it looks like they put them all for sale at the same time. Usually the secret with platinum is to trickle them out to create the illusion of scarcity. Not sure what they're doing with the vancouver tix.
They show the platinum tickets and then take groups of them away as if they are being sold. It creates a bit of panic and some people cave on the prices. They do the same thing with standard tickets for shows that aren’t selling well.
Yah, I think it's rather optomistic that they'll sell all those seats. They're mostly back of the lower bowl seats asking for pretty high prices. I suppose it's a positive 10c members got a lot of the closer tickets, but those seats aren't great at the back. Plus it looks like they put them all for sale at the same time. Usually the secret with platinum is to trickle them out to create the illusion of scarcity. Not sure what they're doing with the vancouver tix.
I wouldn’t buy those Vancouver back of the back lowers at regular price, let alone premium. Who do they think is going to buy those?
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
On multiple occasions over the past few years, I ended up purchasing great seats that were previously marked as premium after they dropped to standard pricing on the week/day of the show. It’s just a waiting game.
Funnily enough some of the 3X premiums for Vancouver 1 are now 2X. Still that’s at least 1X too high but they do eventually get the message of what people will and won’t buy. Maybe it’s all automated like airline pricing.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Funnily enough some of the 3X premiums for Vancouver 1 are now 2X. Still that’s at least 1X too high but they do eventually get the message of what people will and won’t buy. Maybe it’s all automated like airline pricing.
They definitely have AI geeks straight out of college working on pricing strategy
Wrigley 7/19/2013 Philadelphia 10/22/2013 Baltimore 10/27/2013 Hampton 4/18/2016 Ft. Worth 9/13/2023 Ft. Worth 9/15/2023
Funnily enough some of the 3X premiums for Vancouver 1 are now 2X. Still that’s at least 1X too high but they do eventually get the message of what people will and won’t buy. Maybe it’s all automated like airline pricing.
They definitely have AI geeks straight out of college working on pricing strategy
yah, what the f, they put even more up, there's a bazillion premium tix for sale now. they're really messing that up.
Funnily enough some of the 3X premiums for Vancouver 1 are now 2X. Still that’s at least 1X too high but they do eventually get the message of what people will and won’t buy. Maybe it’s all automated like airline pricing.
They definitely have AI geeks straight out of college working on pricing strategy
yah, what the f, they put even more up, there's a bazillion premium tix for sale now. they're really messing that up.
What a disgrace- on the other hand - I intentionally didn’t enter the draw for that show - will be interesting to see when there’s a standard drop - hopefully I’ll be online at the time or someone will ping me! I think it will be like MSP was.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Funnily enough some of the 3X premiums for Vancouver 1 are now 2X. Still that’s at least 1X too high but they do eventually get the message of what people will and won’t buy. Maybe it’s all automated like airline pricing.
They definitely have AI geeks straight out of college working on pricing strategy
yah, what the f, they put even more up, there's a bazillion premium tix for sale now. they're really messing that up.
What a disgrace- on the other hand - I intentionally didn’t enter the draw for that show - will be interesting to see when there’s a standard drop - hopefully I’ll be online at the time or someone will ping me! I think it will be like MSP was.
I ended up with a spare pair for night 2, a little worried that they'll wait forever to open up fan2fan and they'll be competing with these seats.. shrug.
I guess it explains how it "sold out" so quick.
I've never seen this with platinum tickets though. Putting them all on sale at once so people know there's boatloads and to wait it out?
I'm really surprised there are still any tickets available for NY and Philly at all at this point. I thought the Ticketmaster algorithm was much more sophisticated, and that dynamic pricing would be much more real time, getting the prices adjusted to whatever the market rate was to sell out.
I'm really surprised there are still any tickets available for NY and Philly at all at this point. I thought the Ticketmaster algorithm was much more sophisticated, and that dynamic pricing would be much more real time, getting the prices adjusted to whatever the market rate was to sell out.
All it takes is one person to buy a premium ticket for the prices to stay.
2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2
I'm really surprised there are still any tickets available for NY and Philly at all at this point. I thought the Ticketmaster algorithm was much more sophisticated, and that dynamic pricing would be much more real time, getting the prices adjusted to whatever the market rate was to sell out.
It’s a waiting game. With 6 months to go they aren’t in a rush to cut prices. They know they can sell those seats at any time at the right price. They’re not in a rush and they prey upon our need for certainty.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I'm really surprised there are still any tickets available for NY and Philly at all at this point. I thought the Ticketmaster algorithm was much more sophisticated, and that dynamic pricing would be much more real time, getting the prices adjusted to whatever the market rate was to sell out.
It’s a waiting game. With 6 months to go they aren’t in a rush to cut prices. They know they can sell those seats at any time at the right price. They’re not in a rush and they prey upon our need for certainty.
Yeah fair point, and maybe one of these songs from the new album becomes a hit between now and then, and the ticket demand spikes
I'm really surprised there are still any tickets available for NY and Philly at all at this point. I thought the Ticketmaster algorithm was much more sophisticated, and that dynamic pricing would be much more real time, getting the prices adjusted to whatever the market rate was to sell out.
It’s a waiting game. With 6 months to go they aren’t in a rush to cut prices. They know they can sell those seats at any time at the right price. They’re not in a rush and they prey upon our need for certainty.
Yeah fair point, and maybe one of these songs from the new album becomes a hit between now and then, and the ticket demand spikes
Well I don’t think the new music will move the needle on demand no matter what it sounds like. Either good or bad.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Yah, I think it's rather optomistic that they'll sell all those seats. They're mostly back of the lower bowl seats asking for pretty high prices. I suppose it's a positive 10c members got a lot of the closer tickets, but those seats aren't great at the back. Plus it looks like they put them all for sale at the same time. Usually the secret with platinum is to trickle them out to create the illusion of scarcity. Not sure what they're doing with the vancouver tix.
I wouldn’t buy those Vancouver back of the back lowers at regular price, let alone premium. Who do they think is going to buy those?
This is my one major problem. Those seats should be $90. I think that would have solved so many issues with the pricing.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Yah, I think it's rather optomistic that they'll sell all those seats. They're mostly back of the lower bowl seats asking for pretty high prices. I suppose it's a positive 10c members got a lot of the closer tickets, but those seats aren't great at the back. Plus it looks like they put them all for sale at the same time. Usually the secret with platinum is to trickle them out to create the illusion of scarcity. Not sure what they're doing with the vancouver tix.
I wouldn’t buy those Vancouver back of the back lowers at regular price, let alone premium. Who do they think is going to buy those?
This is my one major problem. Those seats should be $90. I think that would have solved so many issues with the pricing.
Vancouver standard price is $208 Canadian. I don’t think they have to slash the price of the rear lowers to $90. They’d probably sell at $150-175 and maybe even the full $208, though I wouldn’t buy that. However in no world (maybe other than MSG and Philly) should those seats be premium.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Yah, I think it's rather optomistic that they'll sell all those seats. They're mostly back of the lower bowl seats asking for pretty high prices. I suppose it's a positive 10c members got a lot of the closer tickets, but those seats aren't great at the back. Plus it looks like they put them all for sale at the same time. Usually the secret with platinum is to trickle them out to create the illusion of scarcity. Not sure what they're doing with the vancouver tix.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Lots will be available, F2F and then drops the few days before the show.
Nuclear fission
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Philadelphia 10/22/2013
Baltimore 10/27/2013
Hampton 4/18/2016
Ft. Worth 9/13/2023
Ft. Worth 9/15/2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
yah, what the f, they put even more up, there's a bazillion premium tix for sale now. they're really messing that up.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023