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    LaFleurLaFleur Posts: 806
    DH77340 said:
    From TMs perspective it makes sense to keep F2F open as it would limit refunds. They don’t care who buys the ticket and would much rather hold cash than unused tickets for an unknown date.
    Except every single F2F transaction costs them $$$. 
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    jwhjr17jwhjr17 Posts: 1,943
    I got an email this morning that my tickets had sold and I was getting paid lol.  I sold a pair 2 weeks ago that I already got paid for...
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    Hurls15Hurls15 Posts: 161
    Two pair of nice side stage section 110 (4seats together) for Toronto are up.  Standard tickets 
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    guitar101guitar101 Sutton, ON Posts: 397
    Hurls15 said:
    Two pair of nice side stage section 110 (4seats together) for Toronto are up.  Standard tickets 

    I wonder if all of these "standard tickets" are people who have called and requested a refund.
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    LaFleurLaFleur Posts: 806
    Hurls15 said:
    Two pair of nice side stage section 110 (4seats together) for Toronto are up.  Standard tickets 
    i was tempted to bite on those....are they a bit too behind the stage? lower seat numbers (to the right) and I might've jumped. 
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    Toronto - '96, '00, '03, '05, '06, '16, '20, '22
    Ottawa - '16, '20, '22
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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,534
    DH77340 said:
    From TMs perspective it makes sense to keep F2F open as it would limit refunds. They don’t care who buys the ticket and would much rather hold cash than unused tickets for an unknown date.
    Except every single F2F transaction costs them $$$. 
    Not as much as refunding their cut of the original sale
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    epbadgerepbadger The Bronx, NY Posts: 656
    Saltzy23 said:
    My co-workers are all coming over offering their condolences.  It's pretty funny / depressing.  One team even wore all black...  I've got a support group here!
    I walked into a pic of the tour cancellation graphic and the words 'Jeremy has spoken' on my office door.

    I ripped the goddamn thing off and launched it across the office.

    I am not in the fucking mood to be ribbed or have my balls busted right now.

    I'm not sure why so many take pleasure in the disappointment of others.  Its very weird to me.

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    LaFleurLaFleur Posts: 806
    edited March 2020
    SHZA said:
    DH77340 said:
    From TMs perspective it makes sense to keep F2F open as it would limit refunds. They don’t care who buys the ticket and would much rather hold cash than unused tickets for an unknown date.
    Except every single F2F transaction costs them $$$. 
    Not as much as refunding their cut of the original sale
    Except only would do that if eventually gets cancelled. F2F is costing them to administrate and they're losing whatever was paid to the credit card companies with each sale. 
    Post edited by LaFleur on
    Barrie - '98
    Toronto - '96, '00, '03, '05, '06, '16, '20, '22
    Ottawa - '16, '20, '22
    Hamilton - '20, '22
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    danlee1095danlee1095 Posts: 1,053
    Saltzy23 said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    My co-workers are all coming over offering their condolences.  It's pretty funny / depressing.  One team even wore all black...  I've got a support group here!
    I walked into a pic of the tour cancellation graphic and the words 'Jeremy has spoken' on my office door.

    I ripped the goddamn thing off and launched it across the office.

    I am not in the fucking mood to be ribbed or have my balls busted right now.

    That is a terminable offense IMO.  I hear you!
    It was the Global Controller of the entire company.  There is no winning that battle.

    Launching it across the across the office like Roberto Clemente throwing out a runner at home got my point across quite nicely....

    Too soon big guy.  Too soon.
    Well said!  But I hear you...  “Global” anything’s probably shouldn’t be messed with!
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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,534
    SHZA said:
    DH77340 said:
    From TMs perspective it makes sense to keep F2F open as it would limit refunds. They don’t care who buys the ticket and would much rather hold cash than unused tickets for an unknown date.
    Except every single F2F transaction costs them $$$. 
    Not as much as refunding their cut of the original sale
    Except only would do that if eventually gets cancelled. F2F is costing them to administrate and they're losing whatever was paid to the credit card companies with each sale. 
    No, they'd have to do it if the original ticketholder requests a refund based on the new dates. If those people instead sell on F2F there's only the negligible cost of a F2F transaction. 
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    JB274988JB274988 Posts: 287
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    LaFleurLaFleur Posts: 806
    SHZA said:
    SHZA said:
    DH77340 said:
    From TMs perspective it makes sense to keep F2F open as it would limit refunds. They don’t care who buys the ticket and would much rather hold cash than unused tickets for an unknown date.
    Except every single F2F transaction costs them $$$. 
    Not as much as refunding their cut of the original sale
    Except only would do that if eventually gets cancelled. F2F is costing them to administrate and they're losing whatever was paid to the credit card companies with each sale. 
    No, they'd have to do it if the original ticketholder requests a refund based on the new dates. If those people instead sell on F2F there's only the negligible cost of a F2F transaction. 
    I don't think the cost of F2F is negligible though. And they won't offer refunds until new dates are announced (who knows when), and then they'd resell those tickets anyways. 
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    Toronto - '96, '00, '03, '05, '06, '16, '20, '22
    Ottawa - '16, '20, '22
    Hamilton - '20, '22
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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,534
    edited March 2020
    SHZA said:
    SHZA said:
    DH77340 said:
    From TMs perspective it makes sense to keep F2F open as it would limit refunds. They don’t care who buys the ticket and would much rather hold cash than unused tickets for an unknown date.
    Except every single F2F transaction costs them $$$. 
    Not as much as refunding their cut of the original sale
    Except only would do that if eventually gets cancelled. F2F is costing them to administrate and they're losing whatever was paid to the credit card companies with each sale. 
    No, they'd have to do it if the original ticketholder requests a refund based on the new dates. If those people instead sell on F2F there's only the negligible cost of a F2F transaction. 
    I don't think the cost of F2F is negligible though. And they won't offer refunds until new dates are announced (who knows when), and then they'd resell those tickets anyways. 
    F2F transaction cost certainly isn't any higher than the transaction cost of reselling after a refund, which actually requires two transactions (refund + new sale). Then there's the time value to TM of holding the money for months, which a refund eliminates. 

    EDIT: I just got a TM email offering a refund, so they're doing it before the new dates are announced. 
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    Saltzy23Saltzy23 Posts: 1,347

    Hi live event fan,

    Your event is still happening, but at a future date yet to be announced.

    Pearl Jam
    Royal Farms Arena
    Saturday, March 28th at 7:30PM
    NEW DATE: To Be Announced

    Hang on to your tickets — we'll email you as soon as the new date is announced.

    If you’re selling tickets to this event, the listing with the old date will come down — then just list the new tickets with the new date from My Account on your computer or mobile device.

    Can I get a refund? Yes, unless you have transferred tickets. For transferred tickets the refund goes to the fan who originally bought them, but you have to transfer the tickets back to them first!For all other tickets, just click the Refund link on your order in My Account on your computer or your mobile device (you won’t see the link in your app). If you purchased resale tickets, an upsell (i.e. parking), or paid a delivery fee for your tickets, please reply to this email and we will refund your entire order, including fees (except UPS if applicable) — it should post to your account in 7–10 business days.
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    What will I do until Mar 28 now? I was planning to spend it F5-ing the hell out of this shit.
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    Kovsar86Kovsar86 Scranton, PA Posts: 756
    What will I do until Mar 28 now? I was planning to spend it F5-ing the hell out of this shit.
    Hahaha
    Off (s)He Goes
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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 10,221
    Saltzy23 said:

    Hi live event fan,

    Your event is still happening, but at a future date yet to be announced.

    Pearl Jam
    Royal Farms Arena
    Saturday, March 28th at 7:30PM
    NEW DATE: To Be Announced

    Hang on to your tickets — we'll email you as soon as the new date is announced.

    If you’re selling tickets to this event, the listing with the old date will come down — then just list the new tickets with the new date from My Account on your computer or mobile device.

    Can I get a refund? Yes, unless you have transferred tickets. For transferred tickets the refund goes to the fan who originally bought them, but you have to transfer the tickets back to them first!For all other tickets, just click the Refund link on your order in My Account on your computer or your mobile device (you won’t see the link in your app). If you purchased resale tickets, an upsell (i.e. parking), or paid a delivery fee for your tickets, please reply to this email and we will refund your entire order, including fees (except UPS if applicable) — it should post to your account in 7–10 business days.
    Got that email for both Baltimore and MSG. It is comforting to know that there is no outright cancellation. We will all get there, even if it is a bit later.

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    I've spent most of my day sulking and pouting at work😭😭😭😭😭
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    But I guess it's all about the upgrade now
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    epbadgerepbadger The Bronx, NY Posts: 656
    I've spent most of my day sulking and pouting at work😭😭😭😭😭
    Me too at the point where I cant even post here...
    My crew is walking on eggshells around me and rightly so. just to put the cherry on top one of My fucking drivers side swiped my car. He is sooooo lucky he has a job right now I cant tell you how much restraint it took...
    I hate to admit it but I am handling this like a complete child.
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    NewfieintheUSANewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,394
    I'm trying to post a pair on Floor B for STL right now. It's an extra pair I have. 
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    JB274988JB274988 Posts: 287
    aw dude that sucks - your Subaru!!!
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    DcgalDcgal Posts: 81
    Standing by
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,242
    Saltzy23 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    Your reservation has been cancelled for your stay at Radisson Hotel Baltimore Downtown-Inner Harbor. Please find the details of the cancelled reservation below. We hope you stay with Radisson or at another Radisson Hotel Group hotel again soon.

    Urgh.

    Just...fucking...URGH.


    Was this a confirmation message, or did they just cancel it without you requesting? 
    I called.

    They knew what I was gonna ask for before I even got it out of my mouth.

    Also, the news about Amtrak is true.  Full refunds if you call up and speak to a live rep.

    Outside of the cost of the show ticket, which will get used eventually, this cancellation cost me nothing but abject misery.

    Hooray....or something.

    Hours of planning that lottery strategy.. verified fan.. general public onsale. Organizing plans and reservations

    And all that f5ing.

    So PJ canceled this and allegedly a 2015 euro tour. Other bands go 40 years without breaking up a tour.

    Is this just bad luck for PJ?
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    OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,222
    Based on the March newsletter it seems the movie showings are still on. Who’s down for a NYC meetup the 25th to wallow together?
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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,534
    I'm trying to post a pair on Floor B for STL right now. It's an extra pair I have. 
    any luck?
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    NewfieintheUSANewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,394
    edited March 2020
    SHZA said:
    I'm trying to post a pair on Floor B for STL right now. It's an extra pair I have. 
    any luck?
    The listing is showing as Active on my account, but nothing showing up on the show page
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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,534
    SHZA said:
    I'm trying to post a pair on Floor B for STL right now. It's an extra pair I have. 
    any luck?
    The listing is showing as Active on my account, but nothing showing up on the show page
    Interesting. I guess when they reopen F2F there may be some nice tickets sitting there. 
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    pearljam92pearljam92 New Jersey Posts: 50
    SHZA said:
    SHZA said:
    I'm trying to post a pair on Floor B for STL right now. It's an extra pair I have. 
    any luck?
    The listing is showing as Active on my account, but nothing showing up on the show page
    Interesting. I guess when they reopen F2F there may be some nice tickets sitting there. 
    I wonder when the F2F/refund tix will be released....probably when another show is announced?  Or who knows at this point!
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    NewfieintheUSANewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,394
    SHZA said:
    SHZA said:
    I'm trying to post a pair on Floor B for STL right now. It's an extra pair I have. 
    any luck?
    The listing is showing as Active on my account, but nothing showing up on the show page
    Interesting. I guess when they reopen F2F there may be some nice tickets sitting there. 
    I don't want to be sitting on $500 in tickets I won't be using (have an extra pair for TO as well). There is no refund option on these (guessing because they were bought via F2F)
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