I absolutely love the pump organ. Very into the wildish. I am genuinely excited for this album and tour.
This song sounds like it is going to be phenomenal and a great closer to a spectacular album.
Absolutely with you both, super excited about it. Wasnt wild about DOTC, but its grown on me - but this one sounds brilliant right off the bat from that snippet
Interesting to see that parts of the fanbase now have moved the goalposts all the way over to KISS to defend choices being made.
You're taking it too far with the they sold out. Ed gave Stand Up 2 Cancer "Rise." They're getting money for their foundation with this ad. Even the Target ad was to promote Backspacer. They made a deal with Target because they needed a large retailer. Rather Target than Wal-Mart.
Interesting to see that parts of the fanbase now have moved the goalposts all the way over to KISS to defend choices being made.
You're taking it too far with the they sold out. Ed gave Stand Up 2 Cancer "Rise." They're getting money for their foundation with this ad. Even the Target ad was to promote Backspacer. They made a deal with Target because they needed a large retailer. Rather Target than Wal-Mart.
Stand Up To Cancer was conceived of in autumn 2007, by a group of women who had been affected by cancer and believe that by merging the recourse of the media and entertainment industries into a single operation they would be able to fight against this disease in a more profound way.
I have no problem with how the band allows their art to be used. Just as a previous poster mentioned about Kiss, or the Black Keys for that matter. Its theirs, if they want it in a commercial, so be it. I'm not gunna hold them to the standards they had for themselves in 1995 anymore.
This post is great, especially the bold part. It's time to move on from the 90's, folks.
I have no problem with how the band allows their art to be used. Just as a previous poster mentioned about Kiss, or the Black Keys for that matter. Its theirs, if they want it in a commercial, so be it. I'm not gunna hold them to the standards they had for themselves in 1995 anymore.
This post is great, especially the bold part. It's time to move on from the 90's, folks.
And why does that move have to be backwards exactly? Other than it being a well-worn platitude thrown around here since I registered 15-something years ago.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Didn’t know criticizing companies was only for the 90s.
If Pearl Jam in the present needs to be correct, then what they did, said and stood for yesterday need to be explained away somehow.
Hence, the birth of "it's not the 90s anymore"
And to preface, I have never said they need to stay 25 years old and longhaired "just because". Eddie shorthaired making a musicvideo in 2002 beats that.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I have no problem with how the band allows their art to be used. Just as a previous poster mentioned about Kiss, or the Black Keys for that matter. Its theirs, if they want it in a commercial, so be it. I'm not gunna hold them to the standards they had for themselves in 1995 anymore.
This post is great, especially the bold part. It's time to move on from the 90's, folks.
And why does that move have to be backwards exactly? Other than it being a well-worn platitude thrown around here since I registered 15-something years ago.
Their song is in a commercial, whoop-de-fucking-do. How exactly is that moving backwards?
Again, read the part I bolded when I quoted AKR's post. It's great advice. If you think any of these guys haven't enjoyed creature comforts, made deals with corporations, held or paid to do private corp events, etc over the past 25 years, I've got some disappointing news for ya.
I absolutely love the pump organ. Very into the wildish. I am genuinely excited for this album and tour.
This song sounds like it is going to be phenomenal and a great closer to a spectacular album.
Absolutely with you both, super excited about it. Wasnt wild about DOTC, but its grown on me - but this one sounds brilliant right off the bat from that snippet
I have no problem with how the band allows their art to be used. Just as a previous poster mentioned about Kiss, or the Black Keys for that matter. Its theirs, if they want it in a commercial, so be it. I'm not gunna hold them to the standards they had for themselves in 1995 anymore.
This post is great, especially the bold part. It's time to move on from the 90's, folks.
And why does that move have to be backwards exactly? Other than it being a well-worn platitude thrown around here since I registered 15-something years ago.
Their song is in a commercial, whoop-de-fucking-do. How exactly is that moving backwards?
I will remember to respond to this in a more thought out fashion tomorrow, if my fever is down. Even if we will obviously not agree.
But yes, to me it is a "whop-de-fucking-do" and it is my belief, that is both telling and a bit sad that the fanbase as a whole has gone into a "whatever" mode regarding both this and also other things happening.
And again, if this is not clear - I have never said they should keep tickets at 25 dollars or that them working with Ticketmaster is unforgivable. I am not coming from that place.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Same people complaining that they're taking money from Verizon for their art that they created are the same people who won't actually purchase an album and pay for their art...
In 2020 I couldn't really care less where they make their money, just glad they're still a band. I loved Ed's solo version of this song, and can't wait to hear the album version. This album feels a lot more focussed than the last couple of efforts.
In 2020 I couldn't really care less where they make their money, just glad they're still a band. I loved Ed's solo version of this song, and can't wait to hear the album version. This album feels a lot more focussed than the last couple of efforts.
100% agree, my dude
2000- 9/1 Camden
2003- 4/28 Philly, 7/5 Camden
2005- 10/3 Philly
2006- 5/27 Camden, 5/28 Camden, 6/3 East Rutherford
2008- 6/19 Camden, 6/20 Camden
2009- 10/29 Philly, 10/28 Philly, 10/30 Philly, 10/31 Philly
2012- 9/2 Made In America
2013- 10/21 Philly, 10/22 Philly
2016- 4/28 Philly, 4/29 Philly
Wishlist: Thumbing My Way, Black Red Yellow, Sleight of Hand
I absolutely love the pump organ. Very into the wildish. I am genuinely excited for this album and tour.
This song sounds like it is going to be phenomenal and a great closer to a spectacular album.
Absolutely with you both, super excited about it. Wasnt wild about DOTC, but its grown on me - but this one sounds brilliant right off the bat from that snippet
only European ones Mike sadly, I would dearly love to get to the states too but finances wont permit. I'll be watching the setlists from afar though .....
I absolutely love the pump organ. Very into the wildish. I am genuinely excited for this album and tour.
can't wait to hear this song live
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2 2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Hence, the birth of "it's not the 90s anymore"
And to preface, I have never said they need to stay 25 years old and longhaired "just because". Eddie shorthaired making a musicvideo in 2002 beats that.
But yes, to me it is a "whop-de-fucking-do" and it is my belief, that is both telling and a bit sad that the fanbase as a whole has gone into a "whatever" mode regarding both this and also other things happening.
And again, if this is not clear - I have never said they should keep tickets at 25 dollars or that them working with Ticketmaster is unforgivable. I am not coming from that place.
2003- 4/28 Philly, 7/5 Camden
2005- 10/3 Philly
2006- 5/27 Camden, 5/28 Camden, 6/3 East Rutherford
2008- 6/19 Camden, 6/20 Camden
2009- 10/29 Philly, 10/28 Philly, 10/30 Philly, 10/31 Philly
2012- 9/2 Made In America
2013- 10/21 Philly, 10/22 Philly
2016- 4/28 Philly, 4/29 Philly
Wishlist: Thumbing My Way, Black Red Yellow, Sleight of Hand
For me its London, Berlin and Amsterdam so far
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
(also touching on Eddie Vedder singing with them)