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Bloomberg for President

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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    Well there goes any potential farmer votes, lol. What an idiot!
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2020
    Such a breath of fresh honesty /s
    (sarcasm for those not “in the know”)
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,967


    He’s hiring the right people. O’Brien literally wrote the book on Trump...and then got sued by Trump because he determined his net worth to only be around $150,00,000. He’s hiring the people who know the guy best. Makes sense. 
    Katie Couric was on Bill Maher Friday night and said that she had spoken with someone in the Bloomberg campaign about the ads they were going to run targeting tRump.  They hired people that are experts on narcissistic personality disorders and comedians to develop ads that will drive tRump insane.

    I hope that's true
    It's fucking brilliant....and it's also pretty damning that no other democrat or even just the dnc, in general, thought of it first. They should've been running ads like this for a long time now.
    Exactly....If I were advising any of the dem front runners I would be telling them to be on TV every day talking about tRump's fake hair, tan, teeth, his weight, his centaur stance, etc.

    But mostly about his failures....bankrupt casinos, trump airline, etc.
    While I agree with you about pointing out his faults and failures, everything you listed is old well known news.
    What should be stressed is what he has done and not done in the last three years. As well as how he has behaved and what he has not done and said.

    They should stress the.....

    Not knowing or caring about the constitution
    Believing he is above the rule of law
    Constant pathological lying 
    Racism
    Xenophobia
    Support of dictators and enemies
    Alienation of friends and allies
    Support of white nationalists
    Support of white supremacists
    His paranoia
    His overall degenerate behavior 

    Etc etc
    agreed but even though those things are known by most of the world they are not well known by the 40% chud that lives in the Fox news bubble.  We need to humiliate him on every network for the most petty and ridiculous things to make those people think.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    PJPOWER said:
    Such a breath of fresh honesty /s
    (sarcasm for those not “in the know”)
    He's right, we need entitlement cuts badly in this country.  What we need is means testing for SS.  
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    And did @Spiritual_Chaos and @PJPOWER actually read the op-ed? I'd be interested in each of you reading it, remembering what 2012 was like economically, and telling me specifically how Bloomberg was wrong in his assessment?  
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Such a breath of fresh honesty /s
    (sarcasm for those not “in the know”)
    He's right, we need entitlement cuts badly in this country.  What we need is means testing for SS.  
    Although I understand why you would say that, doing so would sure discourage people’s drive to save for their own retirement or would result in massive fraud (not that it doesn’t already exist).  Again, I understand the thought behind means testing, but most would just see it as punishment for retirement savings through other avenues.  Not sure I can get behind the means testing as a way of saving SS just yet.
    For the record, personally, I hope to not be dependent on SS and am diligently investing and saving now in hopes of not having to work part time at wal mart when I’m retired.  Actually, I don’t contribute to SS at all anymore since I now fall under TRS (teacher retirement), which is broken too.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Such a breath of fresh honesty /s
    (sarcasm for those not “in the know”)
    He's right, we need entitlement cuts badly in this country.  What we need is means testing for SS.  
    Although I understand why you would say that, doing so would sure discourage people’s drive to save for their own retirement or would result in massive fraud (not that it doesn’t already exist).  Again, I understand the thought behind means testing, but most would just see it as punishment for retirement savings through other avenues.  Not sure I can get behind the means testing as a way of saving SS just yet.
    It depends on how means are defined.  You could exclude IRA and 401(k)s from the equation easily.  You would target people with high net worth through liquid assets, trusts, etc.  Once you meet a certain economic threshold, you don't even go near IRAs because they offer no tax benefit.  So these retirement vehicles do not work for the wealthy already.  Something does need to be done to make it solvent.  The boomers just keep living longer and there are so damn many...
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279


    He’s hiring the right people. O’Brien literally wrote the book on Trump...and then got sued by Trump because he determined his net worth to only be around $150,00,000. He’s hiring the people who know the guy best. Makes sense. 
    Katie Couric was on Bill Maher Friday night and said that she had spoken with someone in the Bloomberg campaign about the ads they were going to run targeting tRump.  They hired people that are experts on narcissistic personality disorders and comedians to develop ads that will drive tRump insane.

    I hope that's true
    It's fucking brilliant....and it's also pretty damning that no other democrat or even just the dnc, in general, thought of it first. They should've been running ads like this for a long time now.
    Exactly....If I were advising any of the dem front runners I would be telling them to be on TV every day talking about tRump's fake hair, tan, teeth, his weight, his centaur stance, etc.

    But mostly about his failures....bankrupt casinos, trump airline, etc.
    Not sure if you are kidding about the first thing. They should definitely be talking about all the failures. They should be hammering him nonstop. Instead, these democrats are fighting among themselves. They love finding ways to lose.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279


    He’s hiring the right people. O’Brien literally wrote the book on Trump...and then got sued by Trump because he determined his net worth to only be around $150,00,000. He’s hiring the people who know the guy best. Makes sense. 
    Katie Couric was on Bill Maher Friday night and said that she had spoken with someone in the Bloomberg campaign about the ads they were going to run targeting tRump.  They hired people that are experts on narcissistic personality disorders and comedians to develop ads that will drive tRump insane.

    I hope that's true
    It's fucking brilliant....and it's also pretty damning that no other democrat or even just the dnc, in general, thought of it first. They should've been running ads like this for a long time now.
    Exactly....If I were advising any of the dem front runners I would be telling them to be on TV every day talking about tRump's fake hair, tan, teeth, his weight, his centaur stance, etc.

    But mostly about his failures....bankrupt casinos, trump airline, etc.
    While I agree with you about pointing out his faults and failures, everything you listed is old well known news.
    What should be stressed is what he has done and not done in the last three years. As well as how he has behaved and what he has not done and said.

    They should stress the.....

    Not knowing or caring about the constitution
    Believing he is above the rule of law
    Constant pathological lying 
    Racism
    Xenophobia
    Support of dictators and enemies
    Alienation of friends and allies
    Support of white nationalists
    Support of white supremacists
    His paranoia
    His overall degenerate behavior 

    Etc etc
    Yes. A million times yes. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,967


    He’s hiring the right people. O’Brien literally wrote the book on Trump...and then got sued by Trump because he determined his net worth to only be around $150,00,000. He’s hiring the people who know the guy best. Makes sense. 
    Katie Couric was on Bill Maher Friday night and said that she had spoken with someone in the Bloomberg campaign about the ads they were going to run targeting tRump.  They hired people that are experts on narcissistic personality disorders and comedians to develop ads that will drive tRump insane.

    I hope that's true
    It's fucking brilliant....and it's also pretty damning that no other democrat or even just the dnc, in general, thought of it first. They should've been running ads like this for a long time now.
    Exactly....If I were advising any of the dem front runners I would be telling them to be on TV every day talking about tRump's fake hair, tan, teeth, his weight, his centaur stance, etc.

    But mostly about his failures....bankrupt casinos, trump airline, etc.
    Not sure if you are kidding about the first thing. They should definitely be talking about all the failures. They should be hammering him nonstop. Instead, these democrats are fighting among themselves. They love finding ways to lose.
    Not kidding....it's coming from Bloomberg soon I believe.  It's going to be beautiful
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279


    He’s hiring the right people. O’Brien literally wrote the book on Trump...and then got sued by Trump because he determined his net worth to only be around $150,00,000. He’s hiring the people who know the guy best. Makes sense. 
    Katie Couric was on Bill Maher Friday night and said that she had spoken with someone in the Bloomberg campaign about the ads they were going to run targeting tRump.  They hired people that are experts on narcissistic personality disorders and comedians to develop ads that will drive tRump insane.

    I hope that's true
    It's fucking brilliant....and it's also pretty damning that no other democrat or even just the dnc, in general, thought of it first. They should've been running ads like this for a long time now.
    Exactly....If I were advising any of the dem front runners I would be telling them to be on TV every day talking about tRump's fake hair, tan, teeth, his weight, his centaur stance, etc.

    But mostly about his failures....bankrupt casinos, trump airline, etc.
    Not sure if you are kidding about the first thing. They should definitely be talking about all the failures. They should be hammering him nonstop. Instead, these democrats are fighting among themselves. They love finding ways to lose.
    Not kidding....it's coming from Bloomberg soon I believe.  It's going to be beautiful
    I guess it would work if its in a grander theme of him being a fake, phony, fraudulent con man. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631


    He’s hiring the right people. O’Brien literally wrote the book on Trump...and then got sued by Trump because he determined his net worth to only be around $150,00,000. He’s hiring the people who know the guy best. Makes sense. 
    Katie Couric was on Bill Maher Friday night and said that she had spoken with someone in the Bloomberg campaign about the ads they were going to run targeting tRump.  They hired people that are experts on narcissistic personality disorders and comedians to develop ads that will drive tRump insane.

    I hope that's true
    It's fucking brilliant....and it's also pretty damning that no other democrat or even just the dnc, in general, thought of it first. They should've been running ads like this for a long time now.
    Exactly....If I were advising any of the dem front runners I would be telling them to be on TV every day talking about tRump's fake hair, tan, teeth, his weight, his centaur stance, etc.

    But mostly about his failures....bankrupt casinos, trump airline, etc.
    Not sure if you are kidding about the first thing. They should definitely be talking about all the failures. They should be hammering him nonstop. Instead, these democrats are fighting among themselves. They love finding ways to lose.
    Not kidding....it's coming from Bloomberg soon I believe.  It's going to be beautiful
    I guess it would work if its in a grander theme of him being a fake, phony, fraudulent con man. 
    Corruption, corruption, corruption... that should be one theme.  And the second theme should be health care.  While you could hit Trump with a hundred things, I think you pick two and just hammer it home, day and night relentlessly.  Steyer and Bloomberg should finance the whole thing.  
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,967
    mrussel1 said:


    He’s hiring the right people. O’Brien literally wrote the book on Trump...and then got sued by Trump because he determined his net worth to only be around $150,00,000. He’s hiring the people who know the guy best. Makes sense. 
    Katie Couric was on Bill Maher Friday night and said that she had spoken with someone in the Bloomberg campaign about the ads they were going to run targeting tRump.  They hired people that are experts on narcissistic personality disorders and comedians to develop ads that will drive tRump insane.

    I hope that's true
    It's fucking brilliant....and it's also pretty damning that no other democrat or even just the dnc, in general, thought of it first. They should've been running ads like this for a long time now.
    Exactly....If I were advising any of the dem front runners I would be telling them to be on TV every day talking about tRump's fake hair, tan, teeth, his weight, his centaur stance, etc.

    But mostly about his failures....bankrupt casinos, trump airline, etc.
    Not sure if you are kidding about the first thing. They should definitely be talking about all the failures. They should be hammering him nonstop. Instead, these democrats are fighting among themselves. They love finding ways to lose.
    Not kidding....it's coming from Bloomberg soon I believe.  It's going to be beautiful
    I guess it would work if its in a grander theme of him being a fake, phony, fraudulent con man. 
    Corruption, corruption, corruption... that should be one theme.  And the second theme should be health care.  While you could hit Trump with a hundred things, I think you pick two and just hammer it home, day and night relentlessly.  Steyer and Bloomberg should finance the whole thing.  
    I like the idea of Bloomberg buying Fox News and upending that shit all together
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279
    mrussel1 said:


    He’s hiring the right people. O’Brien literally wrote the book on Trump...and then got sued by Trump because he determined his net worth to only be around $150,00,000. He’s hiring the people who know the guy best. Makes sense. 
    Katie Couric was on Bill Maher Friday night and said that she had spoken with someone in the Bloomberg campaign about the ads they were going to run targeting tRump.  They hired people that are experts on narcissistic personality disorders and comedians to develop ads that will drive tRump insane.

    I hope that's true
    It's fucking brilliant....and it's also pretty damning that no other democrat or even just the dnc, in general, thought of it first. They should've been running ads like this for a long time now.
    Exactly....If I were advising any of the dem front runners I would be telling them to be on TV every day talking about tRump's fake hair, tan, teeth, his weight, his centaur stance, etc.

    But mostly about his failures....bankrupt casinos, trump airline, etc.
    Not sure if you are kidding about the first thing. They should definitely be talking about all the failures. They should be hammering him nonstop. Instead, these democrats are fighting among themselves. They love finding ways to lose.
    Not kidding....it's coming from Bloomberg soon I believe.  It's going to be beautiful
    I guess it would work if its in a grander theme of him being a fake, phony, fraudulent con man. 
    Corruption, corruption, corruption... that should be one theme.  And the second theme should be health care.  While you could hit Trump with a hundred things, I think you pick two and just hammer it home, day and night relentlessly.  Steyer and Bloomberg should finance the whole thing.  
    I like the idea of Bloomberg buying Fox News and upending that shit all together
    hahaha....that would be amazing
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    edited February 2020
    mrussel1 said:


    He’s hiring the right people. O’Brien literally wrote the book on Trump...and then got sued by Trump because he determined his net worth to only be around $150,00,000. He’s hiring the people who know the guy best. Makes sense. 
    Katie Couric was on Bill Maher Friday night and said that she had spoken with someone in the Bloomberg campaign about the ads they were going to run targeting tRump.  They hired people that are experts on narcissistic personality disorders and comedians to develop ads that will drive tRump insane.

    I hope that's true
    It's fucking brilliant....and it's also pretty damning that no other democrat or even just the dnc, in general, thought of it first. They should've been running ads like this for a long time now.
    Exactly....If I were advising any of the dem front runners I would be telling them to be on TV every day talking about tRump's fake hair, tan, teeth, his weight, his centaur stance, etc.

    But mostly about his failures....bankrupt casinos, trump airline, etc.
    Not sure if you are kidding about the first thing. They should definitely be talking about all the failures. They should be hammering him nonstop. Instead, these democrats are fighting among themselves. They love finding ways to lose.
    Not kidding....it's coming from Bloomberg soon I believe.  It's going to be beautiful
    I guess it would work if its in a grander theme of him being a fake, phony, fraudulent con man. 
    Corruption, corruption, corruption... that should be one theme.  And the second theme should be health care.  While you could hit Trump with a hundred things, I think you pick two and just hammer it home, day and night relentlessly.  Steyer and Bloomberg should finance the whole thing.  
    I like the idea of Bloomberg buying Fox News and upending that shit all together
    That would be the most hysterically awesome thing that could ever happen.  Its market cap is 22 billion, but all you really need to do is buy out the Murdochs at 40%.  Maybe he and Bezos can go halfsies.  
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    lol
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    That's from the NY Times. Washington Post had its own story. This is a pattern of behavior over years and years.

    Watch this stuff unfold, folks. You're about to get a lesson in who only cares about racist and misogynistic behavior when it's Trump.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,006
    edited February 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    ?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    At work? To female employees? This isn't one of his poker buddies reporting what was said at a card game.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    At work? To female employees? This isn't one of his poker buddies reporting what was said at a card game.
    It was New York.  I don't think it's right, but I also don't think what someone said in 1988 is reflective of who they are as a person today.  I weigh what someone says today much more heavily than what they said 30 years ago.  
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    Bear in mind, we're not even at the binary choice portion of the program. People are getting behind this guy in the primary. Choosing this over Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Sanders, Warren, etc.
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    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    At work? To female employees? This isn't one of his poker buddies reporting what was said at a card game.
    It was New York.  I don't think it's right, but I also don't think what someone said in 1988 is reflective of who they are as a person today.  I weigh what someone says today much more heavily than what they said 30 years ago.  
    The Access Hollywood tape was 2005. How much time goes by before we give New York guys a break?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    At work? To female employees? This isn't one of his poker buddies reporting what was said at a card game.
    It was New York.  I don't think it's right, but I also don't think what someone said in 1988 is reflective of who they are as a person today.  I weigh what someone says today much more heavily than what they said 30 years ago.  
    This is the woke cancel culture we live in now. 

    The book was basically a joke birthday gift he got 30 years ago. What cares?

    If Bloomberg is so bad, how on earth did a city as liberal as NYC elect him three times? Come on people. You're killing your own at your own peril. Removing Trump is literally the ONLY thing that matters this year. I think this guy is your best chance. Suck it up and fall in line
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    pjl44 said:
    Bear in mind, we're not even at the binary choice portion of the program. People are getting behind this guy in the primary. Choosing this over Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Sanders, Warren, etc.
    Bloomberg isn't even close to being on my radar and is behind just about all of the candidates for me.  But I'm also not a fan of digging through things from 30 years ago.  That WashPo editorial that was posted as, evidently reflective of his feelings about SS is a great example of out of context and intellectually dishonest smearing.  No one has, in particular Spiritual Chaos who posted it, challenged anything he wrote in the op ed.  It's fundamentally correct.  But now it's being used as Bloom is an enemy of SS. How do we know that this 'anecdote' isn't just as intellectually dishonest?
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